Featherweight
Fanatics
Archives
November 1995
Sunday, October 29 - Saturday, November 4
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 07:30:06 -0500
Subject: Wooden box
Hi again,
I looked at an old Singer Treadle yesterday. It was in tough shape but it had
one of those lovely velvet lined boxes full of attachments to go along with
it. Looked like it still worked but the decoration was in bad shape and the
cabinet needed lots of work. . The patent date on it was 1889 and the velvet
was blue. I tried to get her to sell just the box but to no avail. I've seen
lots of treadles around here but never with attachments. She wanted $50 but I
am sure I could have gotten it for much less because I think she liked me and
knew I wouldn't make an end table out of it. However, I remained strong. If I
buy every little (or not so little) machine I see, I'll never get my FW. The
point of all this is that I think the little wooden boxes went with the old
Singers. BTW, what is a good price for the box w/o the machine? Katy
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 08:41:37 -0500
Subject: Re: Stuff for sale
I have the following items for sale:
**. Black 99K, serial number EG378858, manufactured 2/22/50 (with
anniversary
seal, gold with blue band), presently in cabinet, very pretty, $75 including
cabinet
** 301A, serial number NA258656, shows some wear off gilt,
no case, no manual, no attachments $130.00
** New Dearborne Model 9 commercial blindhemmer with table and motor (very
heavy), works fine $35.00
** Toy KAYanEE Sew Master sewing machine, blue, wood base, tin,
battery/crank operated, takes 24x1 needles, some minor wear, no rustMade in
Berlin Germany circa 50's ?, $65.00
** Toy Casige sewing machine, blue, hand crank, tin, circa 40's-50's ?
$50.00
** Toy American Girl sewing machine, orange, tin with wood base and clamp
for table, very nice condition, chrome hand crank, smooth operating chain
stitch, circa 40's 50's ? $140.00
** Toy Betsy Ross sewing machine, green, cast iron, electric, in red paper
and cardboard case about the size of a 45 rpm record box with removable lid
and clear plastic handle, case shows moisture at some prior time, on/off
switch, works, circa 50's-60's ? $65.00
** Toy Sew Mistress sewing machine, black textured tin in wood base,
crank/battery operated, chrome faceplate and crank, stitch length indicator,
with working footpedal in small box, instructions, all in original box, Made
in Japan, very nice condition circa 60's-70's ? $60.00
** Original Simanco bobbincase (used) for Featherweight 221 $80.00
** Simanco bobbin assembly for Featherweight 211 (used) $25.00
** 2 featherweight footpedals $25.00 each
** 2 Green cardboard Singer boxes with short shank attachments for 221
$40.00 each
All available for inspection. Prices don't include shipping.
Margaret
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 07:14:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 10/28/95
Kris-If you would e me the survey I'd luff to participate. I have
tried e'ing you and it keeps coming back. Thanks for all the great info I
really appreciate the research and documentation. Zsux
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 10:35:30 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 10/28/95
I have three Featherweights for sale, ranging from a 1936 AD model in very
good to excellent condition for $300 to a 1938 AE model in mint condition for
$425. E-mail me for more information. I can accept credit cards through my
business. Kris D
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 12:51:02 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 10/27/95
Subject: Re: DOMESTIC Sewing Machine
Hi Pat,
I tried to e-mail this but was unable to send it for some reason.Thanks for
the info.How interesting! White must have continued using the name.
According to the Smithsonian book the company was absorbed by White in
1924. Anyway the one I looked at was definately old. Actually it looked a lot
like the White machine from the 1870's pictured in the Smithsonian book but I
doubt it was that old. Isn't all this fascinating? If only history had been
so interesting when I was in high school :). Have a great day and thanks for
the insight, Katy
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 13:25:41 -0500
Subject: featherweight birthdate?
Krisi, I was reading with great interest your compilation of featherweight
info and was surprised to read that the newest featherweight had a birthdate
of 1/20/57. My absolutely mint machine AM696632's birthdate was reported to
me by singer as 1/29/57. Did I mistype the birthdate when I sent you the
info? How exciting to "have one of the latest" I thought you were cutting
off the data collection last week and so did not nag my family for the stats,
but will do so tomorrow. I'm sorry that I was unable to gather info at my
class 2 weeks ago, but strangely enough, my classmates wanted to use their
machines. Lynda C
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 08:58:31 +1100 (EST)
Subject: Thanks - bobbin tension
Dear all,
Well this fw group is the only thing that I look forward to coming to work
for at the moment! Thank you to all who helped me with advice about the
bobbin tension on my new (old) Reynolds machine, he now hums along
beautifully.....
and I've had a great weekend sewing away on this lovely machine.
I can't believe the prices on fw's over there - and there's no way I could
afford that much, since I really have to double the prices to get the
approx price in Australian dollars plus shipping. So I'm still
searching.... Canberra Quilters Inc meet on Thursday night, so I'm going to
let it be known that I'm searching....wish me luck!
Caitlin in Canberra where it's a cloudless Spring day
Caitlin
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Subject: Database and Misc.
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 95 16:14:33 -0500
KRISI: Great, great info from your database. I CAN'T wait to hear about
the colored machines. A blue one, really? I hope this prompts everyone to
get their questionaires in so we can have an update. Thanks for all the
time and energy this must have taken.
ANN in New Zealand: Be sure to use the ruffler. They do such a nice job
and would work well on the broomstick skirts that are so popular. I used
mine in the past on dresses for my nieces.
LYNN in Half Moon Bay: $150 for a metal Singer toy machine whether it is
from the '20s or the '50s, is a very good price. I've seen quite a few here
at an antique show, and in antique shops in Arizona and California and they
all were between $225 and $250. And, I can't believe $75 for a 99K. I'd
spend that in a minute if I found one for that price.
This morning I was talking with my mother in Mpls. and she told me that
she once had every attachment that Singer made for the straight-needle
machines. Her's was the 15- series from the late 1940's. She said the
first thing my father bought for her was a blind hem attachment which worked
like the zig-zag attachment. She also had two buttonholers and all the feet
we have previously discussed on this list. She thinks she gave them all to
one of her sisters (the story of my life) so I can forget ever getting my
hands on those! The machine itself was traded in the 60's and she was
always sorry she let it go.
Terry
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 18:28:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Another Singer
I have to tell somebody. I just got a Singer Treadle machine today. It's
serial number is AC which makes it 34 or 35. It has been terribly
neglected. Has traveled to Kentucky and stored; then brought back to
Columbus and stored in a barn. Cobwebs, dirt, and rust but it will be
beautiful when the DH gets through with it. It doesn't have red or green
colors on it but it has sphinxes (spelling?) and lots and lots of fancy
gold.
The lady who gave it to me said it belonged to her aunt who died in 1935 and
then was given to her mother who was a seamstress and quilter. She has a
quilt top that her mother made and I told her I would enlarge it and quilt
it for her. Haven't seen the quilt top yet.
All the drawers were empty except for an old pair of socks and 2 coat
hooks. It came with its own spool of thread. No 40. 15 cents. I haven't
looked at the shuttle yet.
Treadle machines don't seem to be scarce around here. I see them at
estate sales and antique shops. But I haven't come across one with the
sphinxes.
Just read where someone found a 99K priced at $109. That was the price on
the 99K I saw Friday at a repair shop. The owner's wife was there and she
definitely was not going to come down in price.
The 328K we bought on Friday is running beautifully now but it sure is
ugly. The DH says it looks like a John Deere without its wheels.
Now I have 3 more machines in 8 days. I can't believe it. I don't know
how many more this house will hold. Well, you can stick the FWs in the
closets, right?
Marilyn
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 1995 22:35:03 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Redbook Magazine from 1948
I just checked an old Redbook from my birthyear, hoping to find an ad for
a Featherweight. None to be found. However, I did find some interesting
stuff!!...Almost everyone held a cigarette, deodorant came in a cream that
you rubbed on, lots of the same products are still here today like
Tampax, Murine, Colgate, Dr. Scholl's pads, Camay soap, and Millers "High Life"
beer. Things gone: Gayla bobby pins, Parker superchrome ink, Modess
("Because"), April Showers and Shinola shoe polish.
Doctors would cringe with this ad (showing a woman with a cigarette):
"Asthmador Saves the Day!" Asthma attacks without warning--be prepared
with Asthmador Cigarettes, Powder or Pipe Mix--for relief from the
painful, suffocating paroxysms. Breathe Asthmador's aromatic, medicated
fumes and you'll find this time-tested inhalant tops for convenience and
dependability. At all drug stores."
But my favorite is an article titled: "Housework Can Make You Prettier!"
featuring an "ingenious physical culturist, Claire Mann." She shows how
you can reduce hips, develop chest muscles and combat flabbiness by doing
mundane chores like sweeping, dusting, and shaking out bedding. I like
this tip: After the dishes are washed, take the towel in both hands and
swing it up and behind your head, inhaling. Then drop towel to knees,
exhaling Repeat 10 times to develop chest, reduce waist."
And for those of you who love to iron: "Ironing can tone up chest
muscles if the entire body moves, not merely the arms and shoulders. Let
the body follow the ironing arm. Shift weight rhythmically from one leg
to the other."
Next month in McCalls...What Divorce Crisis? "Does one marriage in three
end in divorce? Albert Maisel debunks a popular fallacy as he counts the
little white lies in divorce statistics!"
Barb T
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Subject: CHECK IT OUT
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 95 21:55:04 -0500
There was a message posted in the Wearable Arts Digest saying that the
"Sewing Emporium" in Chula Vista, CA carries parts for older machines
including throat plates, feet, some foot controls, replacement cords, etc.
Their number is 619-420-3490 to order a catalog.
Diane Close Barlow, who runs the Wearables list, has an article worth
reading on "Suggestions for Restoring Antique Treadle Sewing Machines". The
address is: http://kbs.netusa.net/tt/faq/restoring.html
She also mentions a book entitled MACHINE SEWING by Singer Sewing Machine Co
., pub. 1923-rev. 1938 and says it contains all Singer machines through 1938
. She found this in a California library under 646.21 in the card catalog.
Could this possibly be a book that finally shows the Featherweight?
Finally, Melissa, who runs the Tangled Threads Page, has a number of antique
machines including Singer toys and FW pictured. The address is: http://kbs
.netusa.net/tt/faq/index.html
Happy hunting. It's still snowing here so should be easy to follow the FW
tracks. Terry
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 07:15:18 -0500
Subject: Old Book For Sale
I have an old sewing book called White Sewing Course put out by the White
Sewing Machine Company and given as a free gift to purchasers of a White
machine. I believe it is from the 40's. Spiral bound, 150 pages, fair
condition. An interesting addition to your sewing collection but I am
limiting mine to Singer stuff. E-mail if interested. Price: $10 plus
shipping. Thanks, Katy
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Subject: Frister &Rossmann info
Date: 30 Oct 1995 12:20:51 GMT
Debbi,
If you still wish information on F &R machine I could photo copy
price list I have for parts ordered from London UK in 1970. Don't
know if they still exist (you could try) but it makes interesting reading.
Send me your snail mail address, if interested, I'm happy to help.
If anyone would like to participate in a quilt block challenge (no quilting
involved) with a deadline of 1st March '96,-- which can easily be sewn
on your trusty FWs. Our Lindsay Creative Quilters' Guild in ONTARIO is
preparing for a Quilt Show in April '96, and the challenge is being held
in conjunction with this event. Would be fun to receive blocks from far
away. Three prizes are offered in each,- pieced &applique techniques.
Email me your snail mail addresses and complete rules will be sent.
Greta
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Date: 30 Oct 95 10:21:13 EST
Subject: Re: Frister and Rossman
According to Brian Jewell's book, "Antique Sewing Machines":
"(Berlin) Manufactured sewing machines from 1884 some 63,000 being built in
the first year (1875 has also been mentioned as a foundation date). The
introductory type, called 'A1', was a 'Wheeler &Wilson's Improved System';
while another early production bore a striking resemblance to the Willcox &
Gibbs design. Most, however, were of the 'New Family' type, using the marque
Rossmannia. . . .
Between 1925 and 1963, Frister &Rossmann machines were made by
Gritzner-Kayser. In 1963, the G_K company was taken over by the Pfaff
organization and the name of F&R was acquired by O. Quitmann, the British
importers.
Hope this helps!
Penney
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 11:19:09 -0500
Subject: IT'S NO WONDER . . . .
IT'S NO WONDER THAT FWS ARE HARD TO FIND! At a local estate sale this past
weekend, a friend and fellow-quilter encountered a man (probably mid-40's)
who was looking for old Singers, in particular FWs. No luck for either of
them, however! The man somewhat reluctantly mentioned that he had 40
machines, none for sale . . . . . How many similar collectors are there out
there, buying and storing FWs, when they could be in the hands and hearts of
those of us who would use &treasure them for the jewels that they are!!
PLEASE continue to include the city &state in your mail! It's great to know
how widespread this digest is!
Marie
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 11:05:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Faulty information from Singer
I just called Singer about the 2 machines I got this week. The treadle
turned out to be a Model 127 made 9/20/28. At last I have one that's
older than I am.
The other turned out (according to Singer) to be a model 221 made 6/10/55.
Sure. This is an ugly tan machine in a plastic case and it says 328K on
it. No way is it a 221. It weighs a ton and it looks like a tractor.
When I called in August about my white 221K, they said it was a 328K, and
I didn't know until this week what a 328K really looked like.
Maybe the records are messed up only on the models made in Great Britain.
No one will ever get to the bottom of this mess because Singer doesn't
have a financial interest in making sure its accurate.
BTW the birthdate on the 328K is 6/10/55 which makes it a twin to my 201.
(That is, if you can believe the date.)
I hope this is a help to the other owners of the white 221s that have been
called 328s. You really do have a 221.
Marilyn
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 11:34:33 -0500
Subject: treadle machines
i have a lovely treadle, all set to go, and i bought a leather replacement
strap for the treadle to work. but i can't figure out how to connect the
ends of this strap to itself, so it becomes a continuous band to go around
the treadle wheel and the top wheel, to get the machine going. i feel a
little stupid, i confess, because i pride myself on being extremely
machanical, but this has got me beat.
also, where on my machine would i find the serial number so i can get its
birthdate from singer.
many thanks to you in advance. i must say i love this group and think the
info i've gotten has been super.
bye
ellen b
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 12:27:53 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 10/29/95
I bought a 1920's Domestic on Friday because I loved the table. The machine
is a real dog. Now I've seen Domestics mentioned twice - what do I have
after all??
Sounds like maybe I ought to go buy that Fristen and Rossmore, sounds pretty
unique.
A man near me is selling a 1924 Singer for $35 - he says it's in excellent
shape. Should I go get it whatever it is??
I must admit that I am nervous about venturing out beyond FWs but this Digest
is always so full of info on other machines too. Is there a book someone
could recommend that I could start learning more about other collectable
sewing machines?
Debi
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 13:12:40 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 10/29/95
Its so good to hear about others sewing machine purchases. I wish I could see
pictures of them all. Maybe there's someway that we can compile an album of
all our machines. If such a book were available, I'd sure love to own one. We
all have so much info that if we gathered it all together, it would make
wonderful reading.I know Kris is doing something like this for the
Featherweights, but I'd love info on all the old machines. It sure doesn't
seem to be available elsewhere. Is this a possibility? Is anyone up to the
task? I'd be more than happy to contribute what I've learned about my
machines. Just a thought, but I know I save all the FWF digests so I can
reread them. Is there someway to organize the info they contain? It's so
frustrating knowing I've seen the answer to a question I have and then not be
able to find it. Keep that wonderful information coming - I really look
forward to the daily digest. Sue M.
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 14:23:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Not FW
On my weekend travels - always hoping to find that bargain FW - I found a
1941 Model 128 portable (just got that info from Singer) with a matte finish
rather than shiny and a curved wooden cover. I had not seen the matte
finish before. I was surprised that it looked very very much like my 99K
(made in 1954). Not that I need another machine, but for $30 I just
couldn't pass it up. I told my DH that I was just preserving history!
Well, it's true!
My question is, does anyone know if it is possible to remove the Singer
label (and how) to refinish the case and then put it back?
This is the first list I read every day. Thanks, Sue and thanks to
everyone else who is so generous with your information about the FWs and
other old treasures.
Bye for now......Pat
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 14:25:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: RE: 301 (fwd)
I tried to send a message to Gail re: 301's but it was
returned to me so I will broadcast onto all readers and hope Gail gets
this and perhaps others will be interested and/or respond as well.
Cheers!
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 14:08:57 -0800 (PST)
Subject: RE: 301
Gail, I read your message on the FW Fanatics that you were going to look
at a 301 last week and wanted to know how people liked them. I currently
have 4 FW's and 4 301's and I end up doing most of my sewing on the 301.
It has the same bobbin mechanism and workings as the FW, but it is like
the "big sister." It is more powerful and smoother than the FW, and I
like the slant needle. I also like that I can wind my bobbins while I am
sewing - the only one of my many machines I can do that on!
I have two tan 301's and two black 301's. I have a folding table for the
tan 301 that has an opening just for it and lots of space all around for
my sewing. One of the black 301's has a fold-down cabinet with a little
hidden pocket on the side that holds attachments. The other tan 301 has
a luggage type case in tan and brown. And the last black 301 I found all
by itself (no table, canbinet, case or anything). The sewing platform
folds down on the 301's just like on the FW, but it is longer on the tan
one than the black one.
I love talking sewing machines. Please E-mail me back and let me know if
you got the 301 and how much it went for. I will be glad to let you know
how much I paid for mine:
Tan 301 with table, case and sewing (storage) stool: $150
Tan 301: $89.95
Black 301 in cabinet: $35
Black 301: $25
I look forward to a message from you.
Kolleen C
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 19:07:54 -0500
Subject: FW Found in NJ
I found a FW today which I am not interested in. It is an AK, and shows some
wear on the finish. It is being sold by a truly sweet sewing repairman who
has rebuilt it. He wants $300 for it--I don't know if he's negotiable at
all. I also want to note how extremely proud he is of his little FW. I did
demo it, and it runs very nicely, smoothly and quietly. Anyone who is
interested, telephone:
Kaplan's Sewing Machine's Inc.
11-02 River Road
Fair Lawn, NJ
201-796-0022.
BTW, I'm having a motor problem and would be interested in any assistance
anyone can give me. Some have posted that FW motors are rebuildable, but I'm
having trouble finding anyone who can/will do this anymore. I'm being told
my every Singer man I find that the motor's are obsolete, no parts are being
made and that they can't rebuild them because there are no parts available.
One man went so far as to tell me if the motor was gone, the machine was
junk. Another told me there are other companies besides Singer manufacturing
a replacement motor to fit, and could get me one of those. I've even tried
to get some help from local generic electric motor rebuilders, without
success. They indicate they don't do these jobs (I don't know if they buy
rebuilt motors for resale rather than rebuild motors anymore). Does anyone
have ideas for me to follow up?
Margaret
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 20:05:28 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Survey results part 2
I want to thank everyone who participated in this survey. I just
wish all the comments and personal items would fit nicely on a spread
sheet. I will address some of the questions and comments later though.
Accessories: 16% of the respondants have the oil can, 73% have most or
all feet and 54% have the manual. 15% had none of the above.
Prices: I wrote that this was an option on the later surveys, I was
afraid that this would be considered too nosy. But I can't believe how
many of you didn't mind this question, and even offered all the details
about the sale. I think this is great. These are the results:
The average price paid for a black 221 was $209. 10 were purchased
for under $50, and the lowest was $3. (The tear stains on the paper
made that hard to read).
The average price paid for a white machine was $178, with 1 purchased for
under $50.
The average price paid for a freearm was $520.
White machines: these machines are quite consistant. They all have a
white balance wheel, a numbered tension knob, a white/green case with no
shelf (and it only has one lock), the faceplate is white, there is a
seam allowance guage, , no gold trim on base, and a gold colored
medallion with red "S". And thank you Dottie and Betty for pointing out
that there is the model #221k, Made in Great Britain under the handwheel.
I had never noticed this. Apparently, on the earlier white machines this
was a sticker, and on the later machines this is stamped on. The other
thing that changed on these machines was the foot pedal. The earlier
machines had a foot pedal like the black ones with two plastic knobs.
Sometime between EV949626 and EV977100 this changed to a wide foot where
the whole thing is compressed. Right now I only have birthdates on 4 of
the 13 machines, and they were all made in 1964. I'm not sure where
Nancy S-J. got the 1967-1969 date.
More later,
Krisi
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Subject: ATTACHMENTS &BOXES
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 95 21:06:27 -0500
Yesterday Krisi sent me a long list of Singer attachment part #s for the
FWs and tripled my previous list. I will combine the two lists and post the
revisions shortly. This will be a great reference for those of you still
looking for attachments.
For awhile today I not only had the World's Ugliest Singer but the Worst
Running FW. I got up at 4:45 a.m. thinking it was 5:45 (of course looking
at the only clock in the house still on daylight savings) so not wanting to
disturb dh, I went straight to the studio for some quality time with a FW.
Forty-five minutes into sewing I discovered I was not only operating on five
hours of sleep but I had a thread jam. The thread came out easily but from
then on I could not get it to sew without a snarl of thread from the bobbin.
Another hour and two foreign threads later (from a previous owner) it STILL
wouldn't run. I gave up.
Tonight I went after it again using a second bobbin case and even a
Japanese one. It was definitely a problem with the bobbin case. Under a
magnifying glass I discovered that somehow the "silent screw", the one that
is 1/4 in. away from the bobbin case tension screw, had worked its way in
just far enough to hang up the bobbin. I backed this screw out a bit and
that machine is purring like a kitten. This is the second time a screw has
changed position after I oiled a machine. Neither time did I put a screw
driver near a screw except to remove the throat plate. Is it just me??
Next I stepped across the room to get something from a rarely opened
drawer and there in the very back of it was a green Singer box of
attachments I forgot I had. Inside was a note I had written saying, "Needs
cleaning. These came from that junk machine." Well, they were Godzilla's
attachments! Four are marked Singer, two say Simanco and they fit a FW.
There is a green pkg. of needles and the neatest little metal screw driver
with a tiny braid of the same metal wrapped around the top 1 1/2" for the
handle. The box is marked 121901. To think I paid $36 for the creepy
machine just to get the beautiful cabinet and here I have attachments worth
more than what I paid for the machine! Wonder what else I have hidden
around here?
There has also been a lot of discussion about the oak attachment box that
opens to lay flat on the table. I have one and now that I look at it, I
paid $12.50 according to the tag. (Too bad I got rid of the attachments.)
The inside is deep purple velvet with numbered metal brackets to hold feet.
Eengraved on the outside is an oval in which it says, "Patented 1889
February 19". It is put together with dovetail joints and brass hinges.
Tired Terry
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 08:57:57 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 10/30/95
Margaret in NJ,
If you still need help on your Featherweight motor repair. Let me know. I
have several good suggestions. If I don't hear from you I'll assume you have
been helped.
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:03:36 EST
Subject: FWDigest
It's almost been a week now since the accident. As a community, we
seem to be slowly coming out of our traumatized state following the
tragic loss of so many of our young people. My neighborhood is a sea
of blue and white ribbons, the colors our high school. I am happy to
return here and visit with my feathered friends.
Ellen B. - The leather replacement belts that I have purchased for
my treadles have come equipped with what looks like a rather large
staple. I use an awl to create a hole at the appropriate spot
through the strap, slip one end of the staple through the hole I made
and pinch it closed with small pliers. It always takes a little
trial and error for me to get the tension just right.
Prices must be going up! I saw two FW's for sale in a neighboring
community, apparently from the 40's, though I didn't check the serial
numbers because they were displayed under glass. Gorgeous in
appearance. I didn't dare test drive them. Each was priced higher
than $500.00. Whoo!
Corinne
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 11:31:38 -0500
Subject: Re: OK machine man
Someone mentioned that they knew of a man in Oklahoma that buys and sells
machines. I am leaving Wednesday afternoon on my way to Wichita and then to
Oklahoma. I would like to go by and visit with him and talk to him about a
machine I have that is not a featherweight but a model 201 that I grew up
sewing on and my sister Fed Ex to me for my BIG 50 birthday. It weighted 36
pounds and I don't dare ask how much it cost. I keep telling myself just be
thankful. If anyone knows the man's name, address and town please e-mail me
asap. Thanks. Judy
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 09:02:49 -0800
Subject: White Featherweights
I thought I was the only one that had a problem with getting the
birthdate for a white fw. I too was told that my serial number was
for a 328 (I think), but it was definitely not for a white fw.
Not that I'm glad that we can't seem to find out the b-days for
our white fw's, but glad that this doesn't mean that my machine
is NOT a fw... Was a little worried for a moment there... Whew...
nancy
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 09:54:25 -0800
Subject: book/digest
If everyone thinks it'll be useful, I'll try to organize the past
fwfan digests in some type of order. I was thinking of in a 'book'
format, with chapters on different type of machines (fw, 99k, 301,
etc), and then breaking those down further (bobbin cases, sources,
birthdate info, etc). And lastly a Miscellaneous section.
I can't promise when it'll get done, but I'm willing to start if
enough people want it done.
Would it be useful to put in the actual questions that were asked, or
just the 'answers' (actual information)... I think just the information,
or it might get too long?
Any input/comments would be appreciated...
nancy
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 12:45:32 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 10/30/95
Thanks to everyone for the wonderful information on the Frister &Rossman.
(Penny, I'd love to get a copy of that book. Where did you find it?) The
F&R I've found must be early 20's, it's still handcranked.
I called the Stitch Back in Time place that was listed in an earlier digest.
Their catalog contains information about an antique sewing machine
collectors association. I do believe I will join. I agree with Sue that I
am becoming interested in all old machines, not just FWs.
Krisi, what do those prices tell us about true market on our FWs. Those of
us on this digest seem reluctant to pay more than $200-$300 for our FW's and
yet we know that many FW's are priced at $400-$500. Do they actually sell at
those prices and to whom? Obviously if we are the "collectors" we should be
the ones willing to pay the top $$ for the perfect machines (like the one
that got away from me the other day, boo hoo), but in fact it seems none of
us really do. So, for those of us that consider buying to resell - who are
we selling to and who is buying and what prices are they bringing. BTW- you
can add my purchase prices to your list AF $220 and AG $175. I'd love to
hear opinions on this.
My Dad in Conway Arkansas sent to me for my birthday two old black tin boxes
filled with really cool old sewing machine attachments. The tin boxes are
almost identical. One says "Toof's Attachments for the "Standard" E.I.Toof
New Haven, Conn" and is filled with strange feet, including one I think is a
walking foot. The other box has no writing on it but has similar looking
feet in it, some marked "Standard", others with "The Greist Mfg. Co., New
Haven Conn". It too appears to have a walking foot. Many of the feet in
both boxes look like some sort of binding feet. I wish there was a way to
show a picture of these things. I would love to hear from anyone who thinks
they may know what I have here. What is the "Standard"??
Debi
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 10:46:28 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 10/30/95
First I wanted to address the question concerning old machines and
how far will a person really go. I use to think I was getting to many
machines; some new, some old. But not until I started working for my
dealer did I realize how this can be a total craze. He has three Wilcox &
Gibbs, hand cranks; I wanted one, $14,000. I bought a car instead. Now
the fourth Wilcox and Gibbs he made into a lamp. I think that his must be
a man thing and wonder how many women would of made it into a lamp. I
like the hand crank idea, I have four kidz and could have them cranking
instead of standing in corners. But the treadle is the one I've got
to have and think it must be really good exercise and great for
circulation. Now he is trying to get this machine from the eary 1800's, a
HOWE, who he feels invented the sewing machine, and let me add God Bless
whoever did , to run. He touts himself on being able to get sewing
machine to run. So Margaret I will ask him if a FW's motor can be rebuilt
and the cost. Let's just hope sewing machine mechanics don't get as much
as car mechanics. Thanks Marilyn for all the Great Info on the Whites, I
really appreciated it. Greta count me in on the FW swap and send me the
info. To all that have responded to the machines that I have to sell,
that I'm a real perfectionist. Of course I like my machines to look
great, and my dealer likes them to run great so that makes for a good end
product. Zsuxxa
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 21:34:41 -0500
Subject: re: Sickly Motors and other things
Here is more in the continuing saga of the sickly motor. The poor motor was
sluggish, had dead spots where you had to crank it to get it going, and
smelled poorly. Also, the bobbin would not wind smoothly, but rather just
sat there winding in little burps (I mention this cause I think it was
related to the motor problem--I think the motor just didn't have enough UMPH
to move the belt fast enough to wind the bobbin). As I've said, I was
advised to pack it in, call it quits and get a Japanese replace motor. Then
I found Superman, a retired caped crusader electrician with powers far beyond
a mortal man. Superman was able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.
Superman sanded my commutator, cut back my insulators with a dremel tool,
manufactured additional washers to take up some space, and realigned my
magnets. Can you believe it? My motor is running like a racehorse, smells
at least as clean as a baby's behind, and my bobbin is winding at top speed.
I swear this FW now runs faster than all my other FW's and is TURBOCHARGED.
Superman said "you forget so much, and while I was working on it, I began to
remember how they were supposed to run." Isn't that great? Maybe I can get
another 35 years on this motor. The way it runs, I feel like having them all
rebuilt.... ;>)
Someone also asked about why the machine keeps moving even when the clutch is
released for winding a bobbin. I did have success with this manuver: I
removed the little screw from clutch wheel on the balance wheel and unscrewed
the clutch wheel. Then I lifted out the little clutch nut inside. Then I
pulled out the balance wheel--but I didn't take it off the machine (cause it
looked like guts were coming out were I to completely remove it, and I DID
NOT want that to happen). After I'd gotten an area of about 1-2" exposed I
sprayed it all with WD-40 cause there was lots of black gunk in there. I
then wiped off the gunk, oiled it all up nicely, and reassembled the whole
thing. It now works fine.
May all your FW's move as fast as my Turbo-221
Margaret
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 21:02:20 CST
Subject: searching for
Although I'm new to this group, I haven't seen any searches for what
I need--the thread cutter on my older fw is broken. Does anyone know
where I can find another? Then, how do I get the old piece off and
the replacement on? (Isn't this a fun group? Nobody except a Feather-
weight enthusiast would begin to understand!!) Thanks, if anyone
can help!
Becky
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 22:10:14 EST
Subject: FWFanatics
Please add my address to the FWFanatics list. I have two
featherweights, 1947 and 1951. I'm new to the mania and don't know
that much about them. The 1951 belonged to my mother who never sewed,
except for mending and she had little respect for machinery. I learned
to sew on that one when I was 10 through 4H. I used it until I left
home. Several years ago, my mother said she'd tried to get it fixed
and it couldn't be repaired. I asked for it, thinking I'd put it on a
treadle base just for looks. I set it aside, thinking it didn't work,
and never would. Meanwhile, my boyfriend had a house in Florida that
he bought furnished. When I went to visit him, I found the earlier
machine, a table, and every attachment available. I told him to hang
on to it, because I had heard they were valuable. He gave it all to me
and got me hooked. I had it tuned up and the dealer said he'd look at
my mother's and then fixed that one too. I have yet to sew a project
on either one, but am looking forward to it. I use my Elna Carina
constantly -- it's portable also -- and haven't really "transitioned"
into thinking about the featherweights. I know reading about them will
get me started though.
May I please have your archives from October also? Thanks. Eileen
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Subject: ATTACHMENT LIST - REVISED
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 21:37:05 -0500
Thanks to Krisi for expanding my original list by two-thirds, here is the
revised version. Use it as your shopping list! Because my software doesn't
seem to hold columns, I will print the part name and follow with the part
numbers below each one. Parts are either marked Singer or Simanco and say
either USA or GR. Britain. Happy hunting for these Featherweight
attachments, etc.
FEATHERWEIGHT ATTACHMENTS AND PARTS
Standard Presser Foot:
32773 or 45321
Attachment Box:
121901, 160481, or 160809
Foot Hemmer:
120855 or 35857
Adjustable Hemmer:
35931
Multi Slotted Binder:
91245 or 160359
Early model Multi Slotted Binder w/o guide pins:
121464 or 36594
Edge-Stitcher:
36865
Gatherer:
121441
Ruffler:
86742 or 120598
Adjustable Zipper Foot:
160854 or 161127
Foot on early machines similar to zipper foot:
125035
Seam Gauge:
25527 or 161172
Lg. black screwdriver:
25537
Sm. silver and black screwdriver:
120378
Lg. plastic handled screwdriver, beige or brown:
161294
Sm. plastic handled screwdriver, beige or brown:
161295
Singer Motor Lubricant 1/2 oz. in cardboard box:
No part number
Felt circles for spool pin, red or black:
8879
Foot Pedal - American (95-145 v., .7a)
194584 or 195322
British/Brazilian Foot Pedal (150-250 v., .3 amp)
198997 or 199154
Bobbin Case:
45750
Oil Can
120862
Key to Case:
No part # but replace with Ilco T60
Bobbins:
45785
Feed Dog Throatplate Cover:
121309 (specific to a FW)
Gold Wire Handle Lint Brush:
No part number
Spring for Spool Pin:
45826
Darning Foot for Free-arm FW:
171071
Darning Hoop for Free-arm FW:
171074 (had to be purchased separately)
Blind Stitch Attachment:
160616
Hemstitcher:
121387
ZigZag Attachment:
No part number
Buttonholer:
121795, 160506 or 489510
Extra Buttonholer Templates:
160668
Bulb:
Singer #2118 or GE #15T7DC
Quilting Guide:
120319
Tucker (has scaled crossbars marked from 0 to 8):
36583
Corder (looks like a general purpose foot bent to the right at a 90 deg.
angle:
No part number
Instruction Manual:
Green or blue or green/white/red
Green package of three needles (two):
Three 15x1 size 11 needles; three 15 x 1 size 14 needles.
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From a Spanish FW Manual: (or do they call it "Manuel" ? :) Sorry, I'm
getting punchy:
"Accesorio para hacer dobladillo de ojo y picot" makes decorative holes in
fabric:
121392
"Trencillador do abajo" for sewing on cording. This is two parts: One a
very short foot, and the other a guide that screws into the machine:
121547
"Para zurcir medias a maquina" sock darner:
35776
"Zurcir materiales lisos", Oval Darning Hoop:
36088
"Coloca ell Pie Zurcidor" (Darning Foot?):
121094
Attachment for scissors for cutting bias binding, marked with letters F, B,
C:
No part number
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I hope this helps and as usual, if there is anything to add (someone must
have a zigzag attachment with a number), let me know. Sorry it isn't in
alpha order but it's 9:20 p.m. so you know how it is! Only 37 kids at the
door for Halloween. My pumpkins were too frozen to carve.
Terry
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 95 14:25:00 PST
Subject: My purchase
Hello folks,
I just bought a featherweight two weeks ago, and so just found this
list. It is fascinating reading the recent posts as well as the
September archives. It's great to find so many people interested in
this beautiful machine.
I have had my eyes peeled for a couple of years for a featherweight,
and bought the book by Nancy Srebro a year or so ago. Friday before
last my boyfriend came back from the local auction preview, and said
"I think I saw the machine you've been looking for." I asked a bunch
of questions and showed him the book again, and he was sure. So, he
went and bid on it, and got it for a very reasonable price! I was
thrilled! Apparently there was only one other person who seemed to
know what the machine was worth - there were only two bidders.
The machine is a 1952 (have to call Singer still for
the exact date). Has the striped face plate. The only sad note is
that there was a long row of bobbins during the preview, which
appear to have been stolen before the auction. Probably the bobbin
case was stolen at the same time, or it might have been missing (my
boyfriend didn't check it).
Still, I can't complain - there are 5 or 6 bobbins that were in the
attachment box, all the feet, 3 small screwdrivers, some old needle
packets, and the manual. It is in beautiful condition. The case is
also in great condition.
It didn't run although the motor worked, when we got it home. It
took me a couple days, and then a re-reading of Nancy S's book,
before I found that the bobbin case base was reassembled wrong. We
took it out and put it back in right (don't you hate working with
that teeny tiny screw?), and it runs like a dream. I suspect the
original owner messed up with the bobbin case base and never figured
out what was wrong (I can't say as the "5 o'clock position" business
makes a lot of sense to me, but we managed to get it in right).
That's probably why it's in such great shape.
Now all I need is a bobbin case. The local sewing repair guy has
one for $69. From the past postings on this list, that seems a good
price, but if anyone knows of cheaper ones, please email me
directly.
You know what I really like about the Featherweight? It is so
aesthetically pleasing! Such a perfect shape and size - it's
elegant!
-Carolyn Y
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Date: 31 Oct 95 17:14:03 EST
Subject: FW Fact sheet
Hi. I had a request for information about the Featherweight Fact Sheet I
mentioned in another posting. My e-mail response was returned so I am posting
the info here!
The FW Fact sheet is a nice introduction to FW's. It has a little history,
pricing info, sources, etc. It is definitely worth reading. To receive, send
a request to Robert Holland at Internet:rholland@atlanta.com. Enjoy!
Chris
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 06:04:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 10/31/95
Corinne-Let me express my sincere sympathies for your town and the
families that were directly involved in the tragedy. I feel that the
heart of the world goes out to the town so serious scarred a week ago.
Debi-As far as costs go, I admire the folks that can pick up a machine at
a garage or estate sale, but I prefer to go with my dealer, becuase I
know the machine has been fixed up by the mechanic, and I can pick it up
clean. I spent 400. for a 1947 with it all, original mauel, oil can, and
tubes of lub. Also the case was intact. I may get brave and pick up one
at a garage sale but out here I have had all the garage sale folks look
for me for at least the past four years, but none have turned up.
I really apprecitate the accessories list and have filed it. One
think I'd like to know about those that are familiar with the white in
color machines. Since this was the last of the FW's do you feel that they
will really go up in price in the following years. I have 3 for sale and
now thinking I should buy one because always the last made ends up going
for the best price as years roll on. I have the first made after the war
and also my dealer has for sale a 41 which is the last before the war. I
know both of those years are hot on the sales end of it. I do want to
build my personal collection and wonder what all consider the best ones to
have. Line noise! Zsux
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 09:18:54 -0500
Subject: Beautiful Featherweight for Sale
Here is the info on a beautiful Featherweight that I have for sale.
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Forwarded message:
Subj: Re: Featherweight
Date: 95-10-24 10:59:03 EST
Dear Santa, I may have the Featherweight that Pat deserves for christmas.
It is a 1947 striated faceplate beauty with almost mint decals and enamel.
There is a small (1/8") nick on the plate right under the spool pin. The
case has the lift out tray ( I just paid believe it or not $50 for a tray for
a friend for a christmas gift) but no attachments and no book, but when I
bought it 3 years ago in Kansas City, it came with a copy of a 222k book that
is still with it. The latches and hinges on the case are fine. The handle
is leather and it is in great shape. Best of all the machine sews like a
dream. I have taken a featherweight maintainance class and have been
faithful about cleaning and oiling it.
Why, you might ask am I selling it if I'm so crazy about it. Well 2 weeks
ago I bought my "dream" machine.(1938 $650) I feel bad about putting this
one back in its case and knowing that I probably will not be using it again.
It deserves to be used because it is wonderful and dependable. I'm asking
what I paid for the machine 3 years ago $350 + shipping. Santa, you will
probably find featherweights for less, but trust me this one is georgeous.
Birthdate 19 Feb 1947. Have one of the elves send me
some email if you're interested. Lynda
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 9:27:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: fw mousepad anyone?
I was getting some printing done the other day and the woman who owns the shop
was all excited because she has some sort of gizmo that will copy any picture
'on to a mousepad (or a puzzle)--even though my printing was work related, my
heart is always with my featherweight and I had this great idea for gifts for
my fw fanatic friends--who also use computers--they are going to be about $10.
but if we had enough printed (80)the price would go down to $6.00 plus s &h
Are fw fanatics interested if I pursue this with her? Please e-mail me
directly, I have no affiliation with the printer, I just thought it was a neat
gift idea
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:48:19 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 10/31/95
Terry in Montana,
You asked about the FW zig-zag attachment and what part number is assigned to
it>
According to the SINGER AUTOMATIC ZIGZAGGER manual it states: No. 160985 on
Singer Sewing Machines of Classes 15,201,221 and 1200 and No. 160986 on
Machines of class 301. This is right out the instruction manual copyright
1954 &1955.
The form # is 20766 on the manual. I hope this info helps you. Let me know
if you have any other similiar questions.
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 11:34:27 -0800
Subject: book/faq
I'll start compiling the digests into some logical format. Don't know
how long it'll take, though.
I think it might be easier to organize the information into a list
of faq (like how it is done on quiltnet). that way, if you want a specific
topic, I could just send that section to you.
Please send me comments, suggestions...
thanx...
nancy
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Subject: RESPONSES AND TIDBITS
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 95 13:46:06 -0500
NANCY: If you are willing to undertake the daunting task of compiling our
digest into a comprehensive 'book' format, I would love to have a copy.
Your chapter outlines sound perfect--leave the questions out or, as you said
, it will be too long.
DEBI: You asked to whom are we selling our FWs. I've sold two to friends
and one to my mother. I paid $200 for a FW with table and sold the FW to a
good friend for $125. I sold another FW for $200, exactly what I had paid.
My dear Mom saw me sewing on one during a visit and just had to have it so
she paid $200, $60 less than I paid. As you can see I am in the hole on
this but people who loved the machines bought them. A friend from the south
paid $650 several years ago and was thrilled to find one!!!! If someone
wants one badly enough, they'll buy. I was very tempted by that mint
condition freearm for $1950 last week but resisted.
MARGARET TURBO-221: Wow! Is this Superman of Motors an old Singer
repairman or in some other line of work? And, I think you deserve an award
for bravery for undoing the clutch wheel. I'm scared to even remove the
tension knob. Very good info.
BARB: That Redbook article was a scream. If ironing tones up the chest
muscles, why don't I look like Dolly Parton?
The following information was gleaned from a March 3, 1986 article in Time
Magazine:
Singer (quote) plans to spin off its sewing operations to a separate firm
owned by Singer shareholders thus ending a 135-year old tradition.....The
market started to unravel in the mid-1970s when sales began declining from a
peak of 3 million units a year...Singer correctly read the writing on the
wall. Its sewing business had become an albatross.
Mahatma Gandhi called the Singer sewing machine "one of the few useful
things ever invented." Admiral Richard Byrd carted six Singers with him to
the Antarctic. During the late 19th century, Russia's Czar Alexander III
ordered workers to use the machines to make 250,000 tents for the Imperial
Army.
"Isaac Merritt Singer [said]: "I don't care a damn for the invention. The
dimes are what I'm after." He eventually pocketed about $13 million, some
of which supported the 24 children that Singer fathered by two wives and at
least three mistresses. (unquote)
Terry
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 12:47:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 10/31/95
I have been getting a lot of good info from this list lately and just
wanted to confirm something that may have been covered earlier or maybe
everyone just knows (except for me). Did Singer number it's sewing
machine models sequentially in time? For example, was a 99K made before a
201 which was made before a 221, 301, 404, etc.? Does anybody have a
list of the years each of these models was made? I got information from
Singer that my 301 was made from the year 53-59 and it would be helpful
to be able to date other machines when I happen to see or hear about
them. I keep looking for a reference book that would cover this, but all
the ones I know about cover the really antique machines, not the more
"recent" models. Any help you can give would be very appreciated.
Kolleen C
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 18:26:53 -0500 (EST)
Subject: several things...
Hi! I don't remember who asked what, but here are some thoughts and replies...
About needles - YES, it is correct to have some machines where the hole in the
needle is sideways. It is on my FW.
Attatchments - for the person who had some unlabeled - if they fit and work on
your FW, why not use them and count yourself blessed?
What is considered antique -- the classic definition of "antique" for cars,
etc., used to be over 50 years old, as far as I recall. Again, if you like
something and think it is worthwhile, collect it anyway! Look at baseball
cards, and they are NOT over 50 years old!
Inheriting machines -- I inherited my Mother's Bernina 1130, and use it for
some things. My Kenmore is my modern workhorse, the FW gets a lot of use
especially for paper piecing, and the two dome-topped machines and the treadle
get occasional use. (six machines...)! My older daughter has no interest in
sewing so far, and the younger one loves the treadle machine. NOBODY gets my
FW but ME, until it needs to be willed to someone! If I ever have to go live
in a nursing home (God forbid) it is small enough to go with me!
Would someone PLEASE e-mail me directly with the list of what to put in a FW
search kit, and how to check out a machine? I missed this and don't want to
bother everyone else with a repeat about it. Thanks a lot.
Happy sewing and regards from Newfield in central NY - Ruth A
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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 1995 17:21:31 -0500 (EST)
Subject: knee lever
Hi - for Susan in Erie - I found a knee lever for my model 99 (born in February
of 1928 and sews like a dream!) from the little-old-man with the sewing
machine repair shop in his basement-or-garage who lives in the next town. If
you have such a person in your area, he probably has all kinds of old spare
parts hanging around in his basement, as well as knowing other such people, and
also folks with sewing machines and parts in the community. CULTIVATE this
person - bring him baked goodies or something when he works on your machine -
it pays off! Good luck - Ruth A
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 09:41:06 -0500 (EST)
Subject: treadle machine belt
Hi, Fanatics! For ELLEN B - you attatch your belt for the treadle machine with
a clip that looks rather like a huge metal staple, like from a staplegun. They
are usually gold-colored, and come with the belt. You poke them carefully in
to each side (end) of the belt, after it is in position, about 1/4" or so from
the end. If the holes are too close to the end the belt may rip. You adjust
belt length by trimming the belt and making a new hole. In other words, you
can always shorten a belt but you can't lengthen it! Once the "staple" is in
place, bend the ends over as you would if you were putting a staple into a
piece of paper by hand (with no stapler). Sometimes it takes pliers to do
this. Sometimes you need an awl or other "poker" to start the holes. Lots of
luck! Ruth A
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 18:04:04 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 10/31/95
Nancy - Your idea of a book version of our FWF digest sounds just wonderful.
I was thinking if you made up some sort of questionaire like the one about
the featherweights that would provide similar info on the other old machines
we own that it might be a good way to collect some more data (maybe just what
you DON'T need). If I could do anything to help or at least provide
information on my old machines, just let me know. I really am looking forward
to your work - it's just what I was hoping for. Sue M.
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:52:02 -0500
Subject: Fwd: mousepads
Thought all you fellow FW lovers would be interested in this...
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Forwarded message:
Date: 95-11-01 17:10:28 EST
I was getting some hats printed the other day and the woman who owns the
shop was so excited because she had just gotten a gizmo that copies any image
on to a mouse pad---the wheels started to turn and I saw "featherweight"--I
gave her a picture and she did 3 for me for Christmas gifts and I told her I
would put out the word out to people--she sells them for $10. but they would
be cheaper ($6. &s&H) if she ran more at once (84, weird #, this is just
what she
told me) I think it's a neat idea, the usual disclaimers, if you might
be interested please e-mail me privately--could be a good fundraiser for a
guild--my
group is only 15 people so we couldn't handle the 80 something
Anne
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 21:46:20 -0500
Subject: Re: Digest Database
Nancy: I have made my own FWFanatics database. Everyday I download the
digest and later when I'm in my Word Processor (I use Word Perfect), I cut
and past the digest at the end of an archive file I'm keeping. When I need
to look something up, I just open the digest and do a search under the
particular keyword that best describes what I'm trying to find. I've been
trying to keep the file size down by removing carriage returns etc, but it's
still getting quite large. I find it quite useful.
Margaret
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 1995 23:40:42 -0500
Subject: FW FAN. Questions
Love the digest -- I've been saving them all to a file and am at about #50.
Someday I'll have a chance to print them and read them all! Thanks for the
hard work.
QUESTIONS: What is the value of a Singer 99 in a nice little wooden cabinet.
I have one to sell but am not sure of a fair price. This one was owned
(one-owner) by a church (seriously) and probably used at monthly sewing
circle meetings. It runs nicely. It comes with the manual and box of
attachments -- some are still wrapped in what looks like original tissue
paper. Is anyone interested? Let me know. Also, what would the value
of an extra set of attachments be? It tooks like there were two machines
originally and the cabinet became the storage place for the attachments.
Will these fit a FW?
One more question -- Did FW's ever come in a Wooden, Rounded Top case? Or
would that be a 99 also?
Thanks, Carol
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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 09:38:59 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest
Dear Fellow Fanatics,
While shopping at Walmart on Saturday I found the perfect cover for my
featherweight. It is a clear plastic cover and just fits perfectly over the
machine to use while the machine is left out to keep the dust off. It is
made by Dritz and believe it or not, only cost 96 cents. I believe they have
several more so if anyone wants one, please email me and we can work out the
details for sending you one.
Have a great FW day
Shelley
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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 21:52:51 -0600
Subject: Books
I have seen several requests, on this list, asking where to get books about
sewing machines. Perhaps this will be of some help.
On page 24 of the October 30, 1995 issue of Newsweek is an article about
buying books on line.
I contacted the three web sites listed in the article and suggest you start
your search with
Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/). They claim to have over 1.1 million
titles. One nice feature is their searchable database which allows you to
search for a specific book by Keyword, Title or Author.
I searched for books using the keyword "Sewing Machines" and was given a
list of 25 titles. Five or six are titles that I have seen discussed on
this list. A keyword search for "Sewing" resulted in a list of more than
100 titles.
One feature I liked about this site was the fact that you could place an
order and pay by check or credit card. I prefer check because I am afraid
to give out my credit card info on the internet.
After you place your order you receive an e-mail message confirming your
order and payment instructions.
I can't report on delivery or service at this time because the book I
ordered is a special order item taking 4 to 6 weeks for delivery. Note:
they inform you of the delivery time when you place your order. (In stock
books seem to take 2 to 3 days)
For those of you with no access to Newsweek the other two book sites are:
Chapter One (http://www.psi.net/chapterone/) and Book Stacks Unlimited
(http://www.books.com/)
I have no connection to any of the book stores or to Newsweek. I hope this
is of some help.
Jim
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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 1995 19:42:15 EST
Subject: Singer Trade Cards &Etc.
Someone asked about a large flat plate with a screw, Part No. 121309. It's
a feed dog cover for the 221 and 201.
Someone else asked about Singer trade cards. I have picked up quite a few.
The oldest are all dated 1892 and are color pictures of people from around
the world in native costumes using a Singer machine. The back of the card
tells about the country but does not advertise any Singer products. I have
17 of these.
The next group are all dated 1894 and are the same as the 1892 cards
except they show different countries and came in a sleeve that says
Costumes of all Nations. I have 18 of these.
The next group is called the American Singer series and the various
cards are dated 1898, 1899, and 1900 and are color pictures of song birds.
The back tells about the bird and either a Singer product or a general
statement about using Singer machines. The only specific machine shown is
the Model 20 and it cost $3.00. These cards are numbered and the highest
number I have is 15. I do not have all of the numbers below 15 but have
duplicates of some numbers which have the same bird on the front but with
different backs.
The next group is called American Songbirds and are dated 1926 to 1929
and are similar to the Singer series except they are not numbered and the
backs show 1920's machines. I have 15 of these.
Next is a group of 3 early photographs of the Boston Commons and are
undated. The back simply says Singer Sewing Machine Co and does not
advertise any product.
I also have 2 cards with pictures of a family setting with the wife
using a Singer. One is Greek and the other is Japanese and the back of
both cards shows a treadle from the early 1900's and lists the models
available. The Smithsonian book shows this same card with an American
family so there must have been an entire series.
2 other cards I have mention the improved Singer but no picture of
the machine and no date. The last is called Mothers helper and is dated
1899 and is advertising an extension to make the work surface on a treadle
larger.
Other interesting things you can look for are brochures. I have one
from the early 1900's which shows 7 different styles of treadle cabinets
and also advertises a motor which is like a round ball. It came in 2
versions, one attached to the machine and the other version sat on a stand
next to the hand wheel which it turned with rubber rings on the end of the
motor shaft.
Another brochure is dated 1937 and shows Singer machines, vacuum
cleaners and an iron. It shows the Featherweight in 2 versions, the first
being the Model 221-1 and the second is a Model 24-80 which is a
chainstitch for women who prefer this stitch. It fits in the same case as
the 221-1.
Another is a Singer souvenir brochure of the 1904 Worlds Fair in St.
Louis. No advertising of Singer products but it does have a picture of the
Singer Pavilion at the fair.
Another is a 1908 Singer Almanac. Lots of interesting stuff such as
the chemicals that every wife should have in her chemistry set which she
uses to keep from poisoning her family if she is so unfortunate that she
has to buy groceries at the store rather than raise her own. Sounded like
people really needed the Pure Food and Drug Act.
There is also a really cute Singer bank from the 30's. It's shaped
like a book and is covered in red leather.
People have been mentioning those fold-open attachment boxes. I have
an original instruction book for a Singer Model 27 which shows all those
attachments in their proper positions in the box and explains their use.
The machine I have was made in 1909 but I can find no date on the
instruction book. If anyone would like a copy please send me your address.
There is one of these boxes I've been looking for. It's for a Singer
Model 24 and the attachments do not fasten to the presser bar but rather to
the bed of the machine and there is not as many attachments. If anyone has
either a complete box or any of the attachments I would be interested. I
also have an instruction book for this machine if anyone thinks they might
have these attachments and would be willing to sell them.
The attachments that originally came with the Featherweight seem to
have varied by year. I have several original/copies of instruction books
which show attachments as follows:
1937 - Foot Hemmer, Adjustable Hemmer, Binder, Tucker, Ruffler, and Cloth Guide.
1941 and 1946 - Foot Hemmer, Adjustable Hemmer, Binder, Edge Stitcher,
Gatherer, and Ruffler.
1952 and 1955 - Foot Hemmer, Adjustable Hemmer, Multi-Slotted Binder, Edge
Stitcher, Gatherer, and Ruffler.
1964 - Zipper Foot, Binder, and Seam Guide. Optional extras are listed as
Buttonholer, Edge Stitcher, Gatherer, Foot Hemmer, Quilter, Ruffler, and
Tucker. This book is for the Standard white model 221K7 although it's
dated 1964 and other references to the 221K7 that I've seen say it wasn't
introduced until 1968.
1977 - Foot Hemmer, Seam Guide, Binder, Zipper Foot, and Ruffler.
Optional extras are Automatic Zig-Zagger, Buttonholer, Edge Stitcher,
Gatherer, and Tucker. This book says Rev 1177 and may be a reprint. The
machine appears to be white but is gear driven, has the longer bed
extension, a toggle light switch and a different bobbin winder than the
others. The face plate is painted like the standard 221K. The case is
like the standard 221K except that it has 2 closure latches. I think it
is for a model 221K5.
All of the above attachments are the same as the ones that came with
other straight-stitch low shank Singer models of the same year except for
the foot hemmer which was different for Class 15 and Class 66 machines.
The FW uses the Class 15 foot.
The only attachment made specifically for the Featherweight that I've
seen is the darning and embroidery attachment. It consists of a very large
feed dog cover and a darning foot. The box says it fits 15 Class and 221
machines. The date is 1952. The feed dog covers were either black or
chrome.
We don't have a lot of machines but the ones we do have are rather
neat. First is a Model 24-50 made in 1906 which is a chain- stitch treadle
and is really cute because the treadle stand is smaller than what you
usually see. Next is a Model 27 treadle made in 1909, then a Model 66-1
treadle made in 1919, then a Model 128- 13 in a bent-wood case made in
1923, then a Model 221-1 made in 1946, then a Model 66-16 in a desk made in
1948. The left drawer on the desk has a built-in ink well. Next is a
Model 99K28 portable made in 1955, then a Model 201 made in 1957, and last
a Model 222K1 made in 1959.
It's gratifying to see that some of you appreciate some of the older
machines besides the featherweight. If the house were burning and my wife
could only save one machine it might be the 99K rather than the
Featherweight. It's the one she uses more than all the others put
together.
This is getting too long so I'll stop.
Al
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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 13:10:58 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 11/1/95
Terry, ( Addendum to previous 11-1-95 Reply)
I found another Singer Automatic Zigzagger instruction book stating" No.
161102 on Singer Sewing Machines of Classes 15, 201, 221 and 1200
and
No. 161103 on Machines of Class 301. Apparently there are two different
Zigzaggers used on Featherweights.
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:45:39 -0800
Subject: NJS FW book for sale
Fellow Fanatics,
I got a copy of Nancy Johnson-Srebro's (sp?) book _The_Perfect_Portable_ the
other day, and having read it am ready to let it go. It's in great condi-
tion, of course! I paid $6.95 + tax and will be happy to pass it on for $5,
out of which will come the postage to get it to you. This book is her first
edition. Please email me if you're interested! People in the Sacramento, CA
area should know that the Stitching Station in Roseville had a big stack of
them last time I was there.
Carrie
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:43:53 -0900
Subject: White Featherweight
I have seen a white featherweight machine (year?) in very good
condition at our local fabric store. It has the case, no tray, a couple of
attachments, and no book although there is a copy of the one by Nancy ___
S___ . (The one that has a reprint of the original book) They are asking
$600.00 for it. My question is - Is that a fair price? I had been hoping
to purchase a machine for $350 or under and am wondering if there are better
deals out there. I am new to this and wonder if I am unaware of their value...
I am looking for a clean, working featherweight to take with me to
quilting classes and to sew with some at home. It doesn't have to have
attachments or be in mint condition. Please contact me if you have one and
would like to part with it to someone who would use and take good care of it!
I enjoy hearing from all of you in the digest !
Sew on... Bonnie!
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 14:05:56 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 11/2/95
>Subject: Singer Trade Cards &Etc.
>
Thank you for this wealth of info! I am looking into some Singer trading
cards and this couldn't have come at a better time! Can you give an idea of
what a good price would be for these cards? Also loved hearing about your
machines. Everyone here seems to have a great story or two to tell. Thanks,
Katy
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 19:18:43 -0500
Subject: Advice needed
Help. I have acquired my second FW-a beauty from 1950. I set it up to run
and it goes like a dream-very quiet. And that's my quandry. My other FW
runs very well. I have been faithful in lubrication per Gordy. But I now
realize that my first FW is noisy-loud. I've reread all the entries since
FWFanatics got started. My choices seem to be:
1. try running it for ten min on high.
2. take it to the shop and tell the repairman to give it a good workover (70
plus, I would guess)
3. Leave well enough alone
Remember, it runs fine-but it is a little loud. Any and all suggestions
welcomed.
Flo
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 19:34:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 10/31/95
Nancy,
> If everyone thinks it'll be useful, I'll try to organize the past
> fwfan digests in some type of order.
And I thought a database would be a monumental task! I love the idea if
you have the time.
Debi,
> what do those prices tell us about true market on our FWs. Those of
I want to clarify the prices a little. To do this, I need to break them
down by the purchase year.
One purchased originally in 1949 for $140
Three purchased in the seventies for average $32
Seven purchased in the eighties for average $135
Three purchased 1990 and 1991 for average $167
Nancy J-S's book published 1992
Nine purchased 1993 for average $231
23 purchased 1994 for average $260
32 purchased 1995 for average $229
I think these aren't your typical collectible. This is an odd situation,
where there is no shortage on the number available on the market, but
people are led to believe that they are scarce(I'm sure Nancy's book
helped more than a little), and then the market is driven up. I think that
most people who want just one to use aren't always the ones who are going
to put off buying one until they find a bargain, like most of us will do.
It's also odd that the scarcer versions (white, tan, flat finish) are not
the ones commanding the higher prices. I think in a number of years when
these are truely collectibles this will have to change. But as long as there
are quilters out there who just want one to take to class, they will almost
always be looking for the basic black model, and keeping these black ones at
a premium. Because these are not yet truely collectibles, many owners don't
realize the value we have put on these machines, so there are still plenty
of bargains to be found.
A friend purchased a centennial model about twenty years ago for forty
dollars, including buttonholer, zigzag, manual, etc. When I told her what
she had, she half-jokingly said I should have told her she had a piece of
junk and offered her $30.
The prices of the tables also baffle me. They are almost
non-existant, and yet regularly go for under $200. I don't understand why
they aren't bringing in higher prices. I only have 8 tables on the database.
And none over $175 for those that supplied price. Are most of you not
interested in buying a table? Or just if the price is right?
Pondering the Featherweight,
Krisi
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Subject: OLD MAGAZINE ADS
Date: Fri, 03 Nov 95 21:44:59 -0500
There was a suggestion in the Wearable Arts Digest the other day about
copying ads from issues of old magazines at the public library. Since there
have been discussions in FWF about Featherweight ads and how we all want to
find them, I began to wonder if maybe this wasn't our answer. Of course we
can't just tear them out of the library magazines but we could copy them!
The Wearable article described ads from what sounded like the flapper era.
Unfortunately my library is too small to carry issues back to 1933 when the
FW was born but how about those libraries in metropolitan areas? Could be a
place for someone with a lot of free time to do research in the women's
magazines, then if you find anything, you can let the rest of us know in
what issue/publication, etc. and we can all start hounding the antique paper
dealers.
There have been some terrific letters in this digest this week. Thanks to
all of you for such a fantastic newsletter!!!!
Frozen Terry
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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 95 11:52:18 -0500
Subject: FW Fanatics 11/4/95
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 16:38:57 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 11/1/95
I had to tell you all about my experiences today. I went to a shop that sold
used sewing machines and there were tons of them. In looking around I
discovered a green General Electric machine that was pretty rough, but so
cute. It didn't have a bobbin or cord, but I asked the man if he could get it
working. He thought he could, but hadn't been well (he's been in the business
for 50 years), so didn't know when he'd get to it. He told me he had another
machine just like it in a little better shape and when he pointed it out, I
discovered it was a Sewhandy (again without a bobbin or cord). So I was able
to compare the two side by side. They are almost identical in appearance, but
the Sewhandy is much lighter. The end of this story is that I bought the
Sewhandy as is for $50 which may be insane since I may never find the parts I
need to make it work, but I just had to have it. Maybe someone out there
could help me find the missing bobbin and cord??? Does anyone else have a GE
or Sewhandy? If so, I'd love to hear about your machines. Maybe NJS could
provide info on her Sewhandy - wouldn't it be great if she joined us online?
Hope this all doesn't sound too boring or crazy even to other Fanatics!
Sue M.
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 15:19:14 -0400
Subject: Featherweight Party!!
Hi - I just got home from my quilting bee(we are known as the
"Piecemakers"). Everyone who had a FW brought it to bee and we did Krisi's
survey. Five came to the party, 2 were otherwise engaged! It was fun to have
all the machines in one room and to do the survey together. Of the 5, 2 were
EF's, 1 was EG and 1 was EH. The other was an AH. They are all in excellent
working condition. I found out that I had 2 keys in my accessories box and
they locked all 5 cases!! The prices ranged from $15 to $150 and those are
all Canadian dollars!! Two had oil cans and they were both quite different.
One was about 2" in diameter at the base with a long spout. The other looked
like a miniature flask. Does anyone know what the original oil can should
look like?
I will forward the survey to several other FW owners and I will send all of
ours via "snail mail".
Thanks to everyone for all the great reading everyday.
Barbara R
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 09:10:03 -0700
Subject: Cleaning
I read recently about what you use to clean our FW's. But I forgot to copy
and save it. Now I really want to take good care of my little gems, but I
can't seem to remember what was used to clean the outside. There are no
particular dirt problems--heavy grease, etc.,--it is merely wanting to take
good care of it. Could someone please help me on this?
TIA.
Jo Ann
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 07:37:38 -0500
Subject: A Capitolist Romance
I just finished reading a book called A Capitolist Romance by a Ruth ?, sorry
I don't remember her last name. Anyway it is a biography of Isaac Merrit
Singer, a mechanical genius but morally bankrupt. Interesting reading. Check
your local library if you are interested. I am sure this is where the info in
the TIME article came from.
Katy
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 03:38:22 -0500
Subject: Re: a different attachment
Hi All,
I've got a Singer attachment that no one seems to have mentioned yet. It came
with my first Featherweight, a 1935 AE which I use almost exclusively for my
quilts and clothes.
It's called the Singer ball bearing Pinking Attachment for use on all Singer
Lock Stitch Family Sewing Machines, No. 121021. "Adds a dainty finish to
seams and edges." It is in it's original green and white box and came with 2
feed dog covers. I also have the original manual, copyright 1933, 34 &35.
It's really the neatest thing! There were also available strip cutter blades
(which I've not been able to find yet). It's really heavy duty and works
beautifully!
Now...if anyone finds a zig-zag attachment that they would part with, I would
gladly consider a trade.
Gretchen
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Date: Fri, 3 Nov 1995 20:24:29 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: A few more finds...
More FW search ramblings.....
I went into a second-hand shop a few days ago that was so choc-a-block
full of stuff I had to hug my hand-bag and walk sideways so I wouldn't
knock anything off the shelves! As I was walking around the very large
table in the middle that was piled high with all sorts of junk I spied a
sewing machine under the table with boxes and old jars and plates on top
of it. After much manoeuvering (and a couple of wobbles behind me in the
wall cabinet) I pulled it out to find that is was an old hand-cranked
machine, no model number but with (I think) a serial # of ECetc, it was
so dark I couldn't make out if it was an E but I could see the C! It had
beautiful coloured scroll work around the top of the handle-cover (?)
and a gold S plate, plus the usual gold scrolling. The handle seemed to
turn just fine but I can't remember now if the needle went up and down.
No attachement, no manual, the woman told me it had a lid but I couldn't
see it, she wanted $75NZ (about $US50) for it, the jury is still out on
that one!
A couple of days later I found an advert in our local trade &exchange
paper, that said - Singer portable $50 - so I rang on the off chance,
thinking well the paper has been out for nearly a day it won't still be
there if it's an FW! The woman who answered told me her husband had put
the ad in the paper without telling her about it, I asked if she knew
the model number, no but she'd send her dh to have a look, she proceeded
to tell me that it was a small machine and quite old, her mother had
given it to her daughter (38) a few years ago and it had been sitting in
her cupboard all that time. Trying very hard not to fall off my chair in
excitement I said could I come to look at it tonight, well I don't know
if it's working properly dear are you sure, I'm not worried about that
says I, I have a dh that can fix anything! Made all the arrangements
(she lived about 20 mins drive away) and was about to hang up when she
said hang on dear here's my husband, the model number is 99k! This time
I did fall off the chair - in disappointment :(
Oh well there's always tomorrow - there's yet another school gala day in
the morning.....(AND our quilting guild's yearly exhibition in the
afternoon).
Cheers....Dawn
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Date: Sun, 5 Nov 1995 01:58:07 +1300 (NZDT)
Subject: Bits &pieces.....
A few interesting things picked up whilst net surfing tonight:-
(please excuse me if I'm repeating stuff that has been posted before)
http://www.cfm.com/index.html
Welcome to the Classified Flea Market
FOR SALE: SEWING MACHINE SINGER circa 1900 $100 510 685-1257
SINGER SEWING MACHINES Featherweight and Portable w/ Round Top
Case 510-278-2974
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You can also look in the library for books about old sewing machines.
There's a book available through the Santa Clara County Library
(Cupertino branch) called _Machine Sewing_ by the Singer Sewing Machine
Co. and published in 1923 and updated to contain all Singer machines
through 1938. It tells you everything you'd ever want to know about
those machines and their attachments. Get it on interlibrary loan if
you're interested. (Santa Clara County library system, Cupertino branch,
Card catalogue # 646.21 SINGER)
* * *
http://www.mindspring.com/~sewing/
Southeast Sewing Products
We carry a large selection of new and used sewing machines, parts, and
needles. If you are in the market for anything related to the sewing
industry please E-mail us or contact us at the address and phone #
listed below.
Southeast Sewing Products
485-c Commerce Park Dr
Marietta Ga., 30060
404-422-4066 Fax
404-424-3622
Please direct all inquiries to: sewing@mindspring.com or use our email
form.
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http://kbs.netusa.net/tt/faq/restoring.html
Restoring Antique Sewing Machines
An excellent article from Diane Barlow Close
plus 'So, Just What is a Featherweight, anyway?'
plus some historical facts on FW's etc
(plus lots of gifs of machines)
http://kbs.netusa.net/tt/faq/index.html
Antique Sewing Machine FAQ
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Cheers....Dawn
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Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 09:31:34 EST
Subject: FW Parts List
Terry,
Another addition to your part number list. My FW came with a Blind
Stitch Attachment, Part No. 160616, with an instruction book dated
1150.
I also have a set of 4 cams for the Zig-Zagger. The box is labelled
"Singer Stitch Patterns for Automatic ZigZagger". The cams are
metal, with blue painted tops. They have part numbers on the bottom:
161067-161070. They are the Key, Block, Ball and Shingle patterns.
This set came from my mother's machine and was bought in 1955. The
results were never very good, as the movement of the fabric caused
uneven stitching.
People looking for FW Bobbin Cases:
A Stitch Back in Time carries them in the catalog at $57.50. They
are now in Lubbock Texas, phone # (806) 749-0966 or (800) 352-1174.
They also carry numerous other parts for older machines such as
treadle belts.
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 09:38:47 -0500 (EST)
Subject: FW trip - no luck
There are sewing machines out there but no FWs. The DH and I went
shopping at used furniture stores, a pawn shop, thrift stores, etc.
yesterday. There were about 11 stops, all on one street. At the first
stop we saw a beautiful wood case but the machine in it was not what one
we wanted. Loads of attachments, including the binder (the attachment
with the two posts sticking up) in it's own box. Instructions with the
binder said "If using this attachment on the 221...". The base had a
compartment to the right of the machine for keeping needles, bobbins, etc.
Almost bought it just for the case and the attachments, but decided
against it.
At a thrift store we found a 328K (funny how this model keeps coming back
into our lives), but it had no face plate. We would have bought it for
parts but the person who could bargain wasn't there.
At an auction house they had a 201 in a beautiful cherry queen anne
cabinet with stool. I don't need another 201. The one I have is great
but I don't have room for any more cabinets.
The temperature is about 30 degrees here this morning but there are 2
garage sales to go to. I'll have to bundle up. Imagine sitting in your
garage all day when the temp. won't get any higher than 41.
The old treadle top looks like new now. The veneer has been straightened
out (with much effort from the DH) and all the mechanical parts are
working. Still have the rest of the cabinet and the fancy iron to clean up.
I didn't remember that there is reverse on treadle machines. You just
quit pedaling and start up again and it goes backwards. I'll know more
about this after I try to sew on it. Right now its too oily to sew on.
When this letter first came out, I didn't realize it would be daily and I
started retyping it into WordPerfect. Of course, that got to be too much.
Not too long ago, my son showed me how to copy to a clipboard and paste.
If I could do that to the newsletter, then I could do a search in WP or
maybe even index it. I don't know if I can do that. Can somebody with
more experience help? One thing I would like to look up is...What model
is Godzilla?
Marilyn
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 1995 08:33:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics Digest 11/3/95
Bonnie-As per your request for a white in color FeatherWeight, I do have
one available complete with case and accessories for 375. I did have
three but the other two sold with int a week. This comes from my dealer
so it is tuned and ready to go when it gets shipped. Shipping from CA is
$20. So at least that is an option. In black I also have a 1938, 1941,
and 1948 these range from 400-500. Pre-World War II expecially 41 since
it was the last made before the wwar and post WWII machines really hold
there value. I also have three blacks from the 50's case, complete with
attachments for 450. I'm assuming that a white in color one is going to
be a good investment since there were among the last made. I have the
last made model of the Singer that was made in America, and that
continues to rise it value, and it's a computerized machine so I was glad
to hear that.
Flo-In past experiences if I lube and oil and it still runs loud I take
it in and find out why. It should purr like a kitten in my estimation at
least and maybe some of the mechanics on the board could trouble shoot
beyond oil and lube.
Krisi-As far as rare FeatherWeights, in the past ten years of having my
garage sale and estate auction scouts that have never found one in
Sountern California. I'm sure they are there somewhere, but don't know
why they've never run into one. Our guild workshops patrons have probably
bought them all up. It's become a thing to bring on the workshop
list. I still haven't figured out what makes a machine sky rocket in
cost, but know many are now going for 600. and want to buy up all I can
from my dealer before they get to that price. The Wilcox and Gibbs now
goes for 14K, and my mouth still drops open at that. So knowing that I
want to get the treadles because in 50 years they will be in the same
category, but anything pre-electricy hand cranked expecilly are well
touted. I would be interested in seeing across the country and world what
kind of garage sale pick ups are made. I may have to move.
I go to a big quilt auction today and may just set up shop there.
Because quilters really seem to be the big buyers and the collectors. I'm
big on quilting, but this collection is very interesting to me. Zsuxxa
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Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 10:51:20 MST
Subject: RE: FW Fanatics Digest 11/3/95
Hi All...I was on my way to teach a class last night and just happened
to be driving by the Salvation Army Thrift Store....found a green portable
Singer in a brown/tan casse...part of the covering on the case looks like
that grass cloth wall paper only finer grain...it needs a new belt...Says
185J which might be the model number although I've never heard of it and
was made in Canada (the factory in St. Johns, Quebec)...it was only $20
so I decided to take it...no attachments or book...but found several
needle packets in the base...3 packs of Green Oak Needles (made in England)
one folder marked The Perfection Needle Case..(The Crescent Manufacturing
Co.),no indication of country....and two packets in the shape of a
McClary stove (double oven). Obviously a promotional gimmick. These
are from a local furniture store (long gone) in Lethbridge. The phone
number is 2060...will check and see when 4 digit numbers were in use.
These needle packets are so delightful, I think I would have paid $20
just to get them...The machine weighs a ton...will call Singer on Monday.
The weather today is glorious although it was colder earlier in the week.
Hope you all have a great weekend.
Sandra M
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Date: Sat, 4 Nov 95 17:55:46 -0500
Subject: Help with Singer Model 319
Hi Everyone,
Had a wonderful phone call from my son's friend's grandfather (who also happens
to own several sewing machine/vacumm repair stores). He knew I was looking for
FW's and had found one to sell. It didn't have a case or any attachements, but
my close quilting buddy was looking for one, so I picked it up for her. Then he
told me of a cabinet machine he had in one of his other stores that he'd never
seen anything like before, so I convinced DH that we had to take a ride down to
look at it. Well, this machine has now joined my collection. (Hey, for $100, I
figured it was worth it). Anyway, it is an early zigzag machine with several
built in cams that are activated by raising the levers. There is also a place
on the front to put on "Fashion Discs" which can then be used in conjunction
with the levers to create different embroidery patterns. The machine can also
be used with a double needle. (At least I got a manual with it, model 319,
dated 1956).
I've never seen anyone here mention the 319. (Okay, I may have missed a
mention), but now that I have the machine, I'd like to get some of the discs
that go with it. The only accesories I've gotten with the machine are a
straight stitch presser foot and a few bobbins. If any one has any other
attachements or accessories for this machine that they'd be willing to part
with, or know where I could get them, I'd be very greatful.
Thanks,
Sue T
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Date: Sat, 04 Nov 1995 16:01:53 EST
Subject: Trade Cards
Katy,
Singer trade cards seem to sell for $2.00 - $8.00 each
with the more common price being $4.00 - $5.00. There
doesn't seem to be any set value on them. Since most of
them were saved by children they will rarely be in perfect
condition - a lot were glued into scrap books which tends to
leave discoloration marks on the backs. Other companies put
out wonderful cards also. I
have some from White, New Home, Domestic, Union, Davis, and
Weed sewing machine companies and also some from Coats,
Clark, Coats &Clark, and Merrick thread companies and they
are beautiful also. I found some here in IL, some around
Mechanicsburg PA, some around Huntsville AL, some in
Flagstaff AZ, and some in Paducah KY during the quilt show.
Al
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