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February 1996
Sunday, February 18th - Saturday, February 24th
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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1996 23:04:05 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Need 99K manual
Needed: 99K manual or copy
I would like to know if anyone has a 99K manual to sell or would be willing
to copy theirs and I would pay for it and postage. I recently received a
99K machine in a cabinet and found out it was a 1955 machine. Now I would
like some instructions for it. Just e-mail me at the above address if you
can help me out. Thanks much.
Sue
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 08:33:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FWFanatics 2/16/96
I make the motion (Robert's Rules ) that we adopt Grahams system of
evaluating the machines. Graham I've found you so helpful and would like
to ask this question public so all could glean, I found Hansel and
Gretel German pre WWII Art deco with Hans and Gret on it they want $275
for this machine and I'm wondering if these were popular or worth that
much money, I suppose so it is gold leaf. Terri, what a story, I have a
machine that is in my posession now eventhough it is not mine, it's fly
wheel and outer mechanisms whirs ins spots where it should be held
stationary by the centre brad, in addition we have a bracket and spring
inside the faceplae that is not as it should be. I want to part this
machine out, but I don't do parts, but rather perserve the original
machine. It does have a 221-1 original manual, bobbin case, throat plate,
gold good, black not pitted but worn, not rust, the motor makes it move
but don't know what kind of condition because I haven't opened that up,
case, needs work latches but no handle but mold that can be cleaned out.
I will let this go out the door for the dealer's price of $160. If you or
others are interested. Tomorrow I will take it to Larry the mechanic and
find out how much those parts are and have no idea how to pull that brad
out. Then again is the bracket that holds the spring on the inside that
directly effects the tension on the outside. Otherwise it will go back as
is and be sold that way. I don't like to get into parting a machine out,
because I worry about my judgement of parts. Beth, I'd say you have no
choice but to celebrate your good fortune of a friend. I'm sure everyone
on the list is waiting for that great deal of the century. After spending
8 hours in diagnosis of a sick FW, my daughter was reading the board with
me to the post about the swamp, yard sale, FW.....her question was: Does
it have a case? She was just thrilled to see such a bargain and I too am
in congratulations. Zsux
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 1996 08:24:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: No Toys?
I did have a lot of interest in the Casige, and will say that it is
green, not red and made in the Great Britian U.S. zone of Germany. I know
many were taken agast the prices, and CA is high there is no doubt about
it, but another price booster out her is the popularity of collecting the
toys. I won't have any fun selling FeatherWeights today, I've been sent
out to sell a repo Gammill Quilting Machine, when I'd much rather go
preview a new collector of FW's or toys. I won't make a list instead I'd
rather do picks. Picks are what I'd buy if I wasn't doctor poor at the
moment. My 14 year old has gall stones one blocking a duct, I can see
liquidating myself just over the cost of the specialists. But do just
respect to doctors, medicine is truly a gifted profession. I'd buy the
table for $200 and finish it, I have an AG (46) that I have dropped the
price on since it is not a 41 and that's why I originally contracted for
it. I will go $360 on this one plus shipping, it has attachments, case,
and original manual, black is worn. I would say this was a good starter
machine. I have a great condition AJ for $495, case, attachments, manual,
this can be done on a credit card, if I don't bring it home myself. Gold
is perfect. There are very slight pin scratches that you can see if you
hold it up to the light, but I think this is a darn good machine
cosmetically. I will find out it's birthdate. As far as the Toys I have
two favorites the Tan, England made Singer very good condition, and the
KayEE-US German Zone in perfect condition, but I have gotten alot of E's
that say the Kay-EE is common on the east coast, not so much out here. I
also here the Singer 20's and 50's are more common on the east coast, so
get them there amd get that deal. I will continue to hunt for toys, but
I'm afraid that they are just really over priced out here, eventhough I
just luff them. A special thanks to all that have been such good
customers and friends. I think we have a serious bonding going here. Zsux
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 12:29:47 -0500
Subject: Beth and Graham
Beth G -- Your story of February 16 about your friend Renee and her find
of a FW and a table and your deep longing for it.
This transaction will have to be made without money as a prime consideration.
You might want to think in terms of exchanges. For instance you could offer
her some special fabrics that you know she wants, or you could make a wall
hanging especially for her using colors she loves. (Or special meals,
gardening, flowers, etc.) You will have to think of something to exchange
that is BETTER than money, something that expresses your affection for her.
You can, of course, offer her the $100 plus something special.
Graham F -- Thank you for posting the Condition Rating Chart for
sewing machines. I saw it in the ISMACS material and I hoped you would share
it with FWF.
My two FWs rate a 7 and an 8.
Christine
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 12:32:50 -0500
Subject: Dating Singer Machines
Hi Fellow Fanatics
I just received the following from a retired Singer dealer/serviceman. This
information was issued by Singer to their dealers, for determining trade-in
values, sometime in the early 60's, there is no information on models
manufactured after 1959. While this list doesn't give the exact date of
manufacture it should be helpful in approximating the age of Singer
machines. Unfortunately, for those of you trying to determine the age of
other makes of machines this list will be of no help whatsoever.
The following information is for use in determining the approximate age of
Singer Sewing Machines.
Serial Number Series
No letter prefix prior to ............................1900
N.....................................................1900
L.....................................................1901
K.....................................................1902..1903
B.....................................................1904..1905
H.....................................................1906..1907
D.....................................................1908..1909
G 1 to G 999,999.....................................1909..1910
G 1,000,000 to G 2,500,000............................1910..1912
G 2,500,001 to G 4,400,000............................1913..1915
G 4,400,001 to G 6,500,000............................1916..1918
G 4,500,001 to G 8,500,000............................1919..1920
G 8,500,001 to G 9,999,999............................1921..1923
G 0,000,001 to G 0,998,000............................1924
F.....................................................1924
Y.....................................................1925
AA....................................................1924..1926
AB....................................................1926..1928
AC....................................................1928..1930
AD....................................................1930..1935
AF....................................................1935..1938
AG....................................................1938..1941
AG....................................................1947..1948
AJ....................................................1948..1950
AK....................................................1950..----
AL....................................................1952..----
AM....................................................1955..----
AN....................................................1959..----
Anderson Plant
NA....................................................1951..----
NB....................................................1956..----
St. John's Plant
JB....................................................1945..1948
JC....................................................1948..----
JD....................................................1959..----
Clydebank Plant
ED....................................................1941..1947
EE....................................................1947..1949
EF....................................................1949..----
EG....................................................1950..----
EH....................................................1951..----
EJ....................................................1953..----
EK....................................................1954..----
EL....................................................1956..----
EM....................................................1956..----
EN....................................................1958..----
EP....................................................1959..----
Bridgeport Plant
W 1,500,000...........................................1954..----
The dates given are those the numbers were allotted and not the acutal
manufacture date.
FYI: These dates check with the 221's, 27, 127, 301 and 2VS that we own and
have checked with Singer customer service.(For those of you questioning 2VS
it is a Singer Model 2 Vibrating Shuttle mfd April 27, 1892):-)
There is more information contained in the material I received giving the
dates different models were manufactured and the average price. I will post
the remaining information in the next couple of days. I don't want to hog
all the bandwidth.
Thanks Sue for all your hard work in maintaining the friendliest list on the
internet.
Jim
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 21:32:29 EST
Subject: Estate Sale
Well, another estate sale, another machine! I found a Wheeler &
Wilson #9, with a 1907 manual and all the attachments for $75.00
It's in a little Queen Anne style cabinet, and really in quite nice
shape.
When my dh saw me drive in, he apparently saw in the back of my car,
because he promptly locked the front door! Silly man, he has been
known to rescue old machines too. With the machine was a Famous
Buttonhole Worker, with a manual. No date, but the picture on the
manual looks maybe 40's? Has anyone heard of this one?
Chris : I'm so happy you are recovering some of your
stolen items, it was just heartbreaking reading about your loss on
the bb. You are correct about the 15-90 being the cabinet model, I
found mine with the matching stool, attachments, lots of misc stuff,
buttonholer, etc. for $50.00. I agree, they sew beautifully. For
some reason, mine had the manual for the 15-91 as well as the 15-90.
Betty: I'm sure glad you are across the bay from me, I'd hate to be
in competition with you at the antique stores and sales over here!!
From Sandi
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Subject: Frozen FW's and Nancy's book, pages 32-37.
Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 20:52:06 -0600
Hello All! ( I think I always say that!)
In reading the past few posts, I've noticed that some people are having
the same type of problem and myself and Betty R have written about...sluggish
fw's, and a "frozen" type of action, that doesn't allow the fw to sew! It is really hard to explain (as Nancy Johnson-Srebro states in her fw book, and my Dad can attest to that too!). If everyone could turn to their pages 32-37,
before they give up all hope on their sluggish machine. One note of
caution, if you bend your swing arm or other bobbin basket area, it
costs from 50-75 dollars to replace your bobbin basket area on your
featherweight. 20
Thanks for the replies on places in Pasadena, CA for quilt shops, fabric
shops and featherweight hunting grounds. I'm now looking for areas in
San Diego, CA. Seems like I'm traveling to California
at least twice this year.
Oh, my Dad wanted me to say that he has a couple of freearms, now in his
inventory. Give him a call, if you are having "frozen" fw problems, want a fw, or
accessories. Eya
all later! Gail
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 23:27:17 -0500
Subject: ELNA
I was wondering if anyone could give me some information about this Elna I
picked up at a thrift store. It comes in a green metal case that makes into a
sewing tabletop.
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 20:34:56 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Advice, please
Hi All!
Well, I went to look at a treadle today. It's a Singer 66-1, in a
4-drawer cabinet. As far as I could tell, it's functional but needs a LOT of
cleaning up. On Graham's scale, I would rate it between 4 and 5. The
cabinet will definitely need refinising work. On the bright
side: has a new belt (which she put on MUCH too loosly), has the slide
plate, and has lots of attachments. She found the original book. Seems to
have one functional bobbin, but that's not really a problem. I didn't
examime the ironwork closely but I don't recall seeing any rust.
She's been advertising it for $100 for a couple of weeks now. I
offered her $75, but she turned it down because she paid $90 (from a
dealer) when she bought it. I can understand why she doesn't want to lose
money on the thing, but even so, I've seen remade treadle tables and
refinished treadle bases (no machine) go for around $65 and this cabinet has
its veneer peeling in spots.
I don't exactly want a long-term clean-up project, BUT I think the
mechanicals are within my grasp. If the group consensus is that this is a
diamond in the rough which needs a home, I'll cough up the additional $25
and go back.
Opinions, please!
Lydia
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 21:04:08 EST
Subject: Miscellaneous
I need a complete light assembly for a Featherweight. If anyone has a
really trashed machine they are interested in selling I would appreeciate
hearing from you. Except for the light I wouldn't care what else is missing/broken.
At our monthly flea market Sun. I spotted some items that someone might
be interested in as follows:
1) Red leather covered Singer bank with a key. The key was newly made. The
red color is lighter than the one I have and at first I suspected sun fade
but the color is perfectly even over all the leather on both sides. Since
I've only seen 2, I suppose there could have been some color variations
during the time they were produced. $45.00
2) Automatic Zigzagger for 301 (Part No. 161103). Complete in its box.
Someone had done a rather nice job of copying the manual (same size and
assembled just like the original). The same name is printed on the box and
also the manual so I suppose they copied the original manual. $30.00.
3) Zigzag Attachment for low shank machines (Part No. 121706). Complete in
its box with the instruction manual. $15.00.
4) Hemstitcher (Part No. 121387). The needle plate is Part No. 121388 so
it is for Class 15 machines. In it's box but no instructions. $15.00.
5) A green box of Greist Rotary attachments which I think are for a White
rotary. Ruffler, 3 hemmers, binder, foot hemmer, edge stitcher, gatherer,
quilting foot, quilting guide, cloth guide with screw, and what I suppose
must be a shirring plate. No instructions. $10.00.
6) Another green box of Greist attachments which are for low shank
machines. Ruffler, 2 foot hemmers which are the same, zipper foot,
quilting quide, cloth guide, 4 different hemmers, binder, and edge
stitcher. The hemmers, binder, and edge stitcher all attach to the
machine by means of an adapter or ankle. No instructions except for a slip
of paper which talks about the ruffler. $15.00.
I didn't buy any of the above since I already have a bank and a zig-zagger
for a 301 but would be happy to pick up and mail if anyone is interested
and they are still there next month. There was a second bank there which
was identical to the Singer bank except that it was covered in cream
colored leather and said Babys Bank. I didn't buy it either because I
didn't want to start collecting banks but I'm now regretting it. The baby
bank was $10.00
I have a description of some of the variations in the Model 127 and 128
machines that a few of you might find interesting. It is too long to post
here but if anyone is interested I could send a copy.
Al
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 20:12:14 -0500
Subject: Me Again
Hello Again,
One more thing I forgot to mention, while visiting mom, she told me she had a
toy sewing machine that she has no use for did I want it? Well, she pulled
out a Singer SEWHANDY Model 20, it's in great shape, has the manual
(copyright 1953) and clamp, even the box is in great shape! I'm going to
polsih it up &am now eagerly awaiting the arrival of mr barrister bookcase
so I can display my latest traesure!
Laura
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 07:07:19 -0500
Subject: Re: FWFanatics 2/16/96
I had to tell you all about my wonderful luck this weekend - sometimes
persistence does pay off! At an auction I bought a 328K machine for $5 (not
in very good shape), at a moving sale I found another 401a machine with a
lovely case and its own CARD TABLE for $20, at an antique show I bought a
small black machine which I think is old called Original Express by Guhl &
Harbeck, Hamburg (can any of you experts on older machines help me out with
this one??), and yesterday at a flea market I found a fold out oak box with
some of its attachments for $15!! Wasn't I fortunate - after weeks of not
finding much at all! My machine collection is now up to 18 (not including my
seven toys). It's so surprising how many old Singer machines are out there
and still running wonderfully. Thank goodness they're not too expensive,
although I am running out of room! Such fun!! Sue M.
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Date: 19 Feb 96 08:46:22 EST
Subject: FWFanatics 2/16/96
Anyone know where I can get a throat plate for a 1925 Singer 127 treadle??
Barbara S
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 08:00:31 -0600 (CST)
Subject: THANKS MILLIE!
Hello All,
Millie has provided the kind of service that this llist is getting
"known" for. By clarifying the differences in knee levers that I
recently advertised, she has saved a lot of us much confusion. To all
who have responded to my note about reproduction levers-please read
Millies clarification, and determine that you need a FLAT end lever.
This is what I am having produced at this time. (The other type can be
built but is, I think, out of the price range that most of us (me) would
like to pay).
Also, is anyone familiar with a "Dressmaker" brand machine? The one I
saw looks a little new for this list, but I would guess '60's. It
appears to be a full-sized machine, but it is very light and comes inits
own suitcase, like our FW's. It is free-arm, and has a lot of
"automatic" decorative stiches. Any hints??
Thanks,
Daryl
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 10:33:59 -0500
Subject: misc
For Terri: It sounds like it would have been a shorter list if you told us
what your FW has for parts, rather than all that is missing! !! Hope that
you only paid $1 for it, like Joan did for hers!
To: Billye
For whoever gets those Industrial machines, I have some manuals which might
match
them. I have manuals for models 112, 114, 95,241,69,153/154, 71,245,400.
Millie
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 12:15:03 -0600
Subject: Wanted - Singer 301
Hi everyone. I'm seriously looking for a Singer 301 machine - portable
style. I would prefer a black one but I don't really care that much. It has
to be in good mechanical condition though cause I plan on really using this
machine! Please email me with details, etc. if you have one you would
consider selling. I'd also be interested in hearing about any 301 tables too
if there are any out there available for sale.
This is my first posting on this list - I joined up for the same reason many
of you did I'm sure: I hope to own a featherweight someday. I can't afford
paying $400 and up however so I'm still hoping someday to find that good
deal...In the meantime, however, I like what I've been hearing about the
301. I'm looking for a good machine that I can learn how to machine quilt
on. I plan on carting it to classes so I want it to be the portable style -
not the cabinet style.
I've definately caught the "old sewing machine bug" - thanks to all of you!
For Christmas my DH got me a treaddle machine called a New Royal made by the
Illinois Sewing Machine Co. It's in really good shape - it's in an oak
cabinet with 6 drawers. The machine pops out of the cabinet when you open
the top. It came with lots of attachments (several hemmers, a ruffler, a
tucker, and a thing to sew on braid) an extra bobbin and an extra belt. We
had to replace the belt but we don't have it tight enough yet so the belt
slips when I try to sew. Just by moving the wheel by hand though I've tested
it out and it seems to sew a nice stich. I hope someday to actually sew
something on it! Do many of you actually use your treaddles? The machine
came with a manual but unfortunately the manual is for an older style
machine. The machine in the manual has a tension contraption up on top of
the machine whereas my machine has a tension dial on the front of the
machine. If anybody would happen to have a manual for a New Royal machine
I'd love to hear from you. I think I have it threaded correctly but I'd like
to know for sure...
Well, that's long enough for a first post. Email me with all those 301's for
sale!!
Debbi
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 14:14:11 -0800
Subject: sticky flywheel
Hi Marti,
I'll discuss the sluggish machine first and then get to the sticky flywheel.
This machine sounds like it was poorly cared for. Let's go through some
steps to possibly correct the problems. Either the machine was stored in a
damp environment and allowed to rust or improper lubricant was used which
turned to gum or hard shellac. In any case a solvent is necessary to get
rid of the rust or gum. On page 28 of the 221 instruction manual, Singer
says to use a little kerosene if the machine runs hard. Instead of
kerosene, WD-40, (sometimes called kerosene in a can) can be used. WD-40
contains petroleum distillate (solvent) and will usually loosen up gum and
rust. Put the WD-40 in the oil holes, using the oiling guide in the 221
instruction manual. Work the hand wheel back and forth as you do this to
get the get the solvent to work into the bearing areas. You may have to
leave it set a few hours and apply a second application of WD-40 if the
machine is really sluggish.
Next remove the belt. To do this loosen screw "C", Fig 7, page 10 of the
221 manual. Loosen about 1 turn, don't remove, this will allow the motor
to move up and down. Pull the motor up and roll the belt off the motor
pulley first and then remove from the hand wheel. Now you can spin the
hand wheel freely without the motor drag. You should be able to give the
hand wheel a good spin and the needle should go up and down 3 or 4 times
before coasting to a stop. If not, then we have more work to do.
In the FW 221 there is a vertical shaft that runs from the upper horizontal
shaft to the lower horizontal shaft with a set of bevel gears on each end.
These gears may be gummed up if improper lubricant was used. Sometimes the
old grease has solidified and the gears won't turn at all. In this case,
the hardened grease must be removed. Try the WD-40 and see if it will
loosen the grease. An old tooth brush works well here. Sometimes you have
to scrape the old grease off, this requires lots of time and patient.
After you have removed all the old grease now we have to lubricate the
machine. For the gears, USE ONLY SINGER LUBRICANT that comes in a 1/2 oz
red and white tube, item # 2129. It is a non-flowing grease that does not
dry out designed especially for this job. For the rest of the machine use
a good grade of sewing machine oil. Do not use 3-in-one oil, it contains
solvent just like WD-40. The solvents in the oil dilute its lubricating
qualities. I recommend buying Singer machine oil. After the WD-40
treatment, a good oiling is necessary following the oiling guide in the
manual, making sure you get all the oiling locations indicated by the
arrows.
Now lets tackle the bobbin winding problem. If the needle continues to go
up and down while winding a bobbin you need to clean and lubricate the hand
wheel/main shaft as follows. First - some nomenclature What I call the hand
wheel,("A", Fig. 7, page 10), Singer calls the balance wheel and you call
the flywheel. The small knurled knob ("B", Fig 7, page 10),that loosens the
hand wheel while winding a bobbin I call the clutch knob and Singer calls
the stop motion screw. Set the machine on end so that the hand wheel is
up. Loosen the clutch knob and note how far it will rotate easily - should
be about 90 degrees.
Unscrew the small screw in the face of the clutch knob and remove. Now you
can unscrew the clutch knob all the way and remove. On the end of the main
shaft is a special washer that I call the clutch washer. Before you remove
this washer, note its position. This washer has three tabs on the outside
and two tabs on the inside. The inside tabs engage slots in the end of the
main shaft. Note that one outside tab and one inside tab are adjacent.
Take a marking pen and mark the end of the main shaft adjacent to the
inside tab that lines up with an outside tab. This will enable you to
reassemble the clutch properly later. Remove the washer and note that the
inside tabs are bent slightly downward. Now you can remove the hand wheel
from the main shaft, checking that the bobbin winder is rotated outward to
clear the hand wheel. Inspect the inside of the hand wheel and the surface
of the main shaft for rust and or gummy residue. If necessary use WD-40 to
clean these areas. Now put several drops of machine oil on the main shaft
and put the hand wheel back on . It should spin freely on the main shaft.
Now reassemble the clutch. Be sure to put the clutch washer on the main
shaft in the same orientation that it came off(note your marks). Be sure
the bent tabs are down. Screw the clutch knob on until tight and reinstall
the small screw. Now check for proper operation. The clutch knob should
release the hand wheel from the main shaft fully when loosened and should
rotate about 90 degrees freely. If this is not the case then the clutch
washer needs to be removed and rotated 180 degrees. There is two ways the
clutch washer can be installed, one is correct and one is not. This should
solve the needle going up and down problem.
Now for the bobbin winder problem. The bobbin winder should spin freely.
If it doesn't then it may need the WD-40 treatment. There is a small oil
on the top of the winder and it needs regular lubrication along with the
rest of the machine. The bobbin winder drive wheel is driven from the back
side of the motor belt when winding. Old belts are sometimes hard and
slick and don't grip the drive wheel very well. Also some old belts are
rough and have chunks of rubber missing causing the winder to run jerky.
In this case, a new belt is required. Another thing to check is the
tension discs ("3", Fig 7, page 10). Be sure there is no rust between the
discs and they are smooth and polished. The last thing about the bobbin
winder is the pivot friction. The proper friction is provided by a
Belleville washer(conical washer) and not by how tight the pivot screw is.
The pivot should not be lubricated or there won't be enough friction to
hold the winder drive wheel against the back side of the motor belt.
Sometimes someone has disassembled the winder and removed or lost the
Belleville washer. In this case proper pivot friction is hard to obtain.
When reinstalling the motor belt, put the belt on the hand wheel pulley
first then slide the motor all the way up and rotate the belt onto the
motor pulley. Be sure to get the belt all the way into the motor pulley
groove. Now adjust the belt tension by sliding the motor down while
tightening crew "C", fig 7 , page 10. Use just enough tension so that the
belt doesn't slip while running. Too much tension will consume energy and
cause the machine to run slow.
Hope this helps with your problems.
Gordy
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Subject: Featherweight
I recently read something on this list about a featherweight that has a
serial # that begins with EH. My one and only FW begins with just that. I
wrote Nancy Johnson Srebro inquiring about such a # since in her book she
mentions no numbers beginning with EH .
Her husband wrote back to say(he is apparently her secretay when she is away)
The "E" prefix on my machine indicates the original manufacture was in
England (Great Britain). It was probably sold in Canada and has since
travelled to the U.S.A.(via me!).
I had bought my machine from the sweetest Canadian woman you'd ever want to
meet at a Quilting Conference.
Her relative died and she got to pull things out of her attic. She
discovered 2 FWs. She kept one but decided to sell the other. All she
wanted was 200$. Of course everyones mouths at the table dropped and one
girl said that was giving it away. She smiled sweetly and said that was all
she really wanted,200$.
My heart raced, as I tried to figure out how I would explain the purchase to
my DH. He was not exactly a sewing machine connoiseur! I was anxouis to
aquire it before someone else snatched it up so I told her I would like to
see it,and if it looked in good shape I would buy it.
She said to take my time. I could bring it to class the next day and sew all
day on it. Try it out!!! Don't ruch your decision. It was in excellent
shape and sewed like a dream. Not a scratch on it! I couldn't get to the bank
soon enough. I love my little FW! My DH??? Well he eventually got over it!
I am now a hopeless fanatic and scan the local shops fora second FW. I have
another lead, hope this one pans out!!!.
PS Is there any way to date my machine since it was made in England????
Ima
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 19:01:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Famous Buttonholer
For Sandra S :
My copy of Machine Sewing..., which is "revised June 1930" contains a
picture and description of 'The "Famous" Buttonhole Attachment for Singer
Machines' so the device itself pre-dates the 40s. I don't know if this
one came out in more than one model -- I tend to think not.
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Lydia P
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 1996 21:54:51 EST
Subject: Hi Fanatics
Hi Fanatics- I am looking for an old Singer store sign. Prefer one of the
large outdoor porcelain signs, but would consider any old Singer sign of
any type. I know many of you (like myself) are out exploring the antique
and junque shops looking for that elusive bargain, so if you find a Singer
sign for sale, please E-mail me with details. I really appreciate your help.
Thank you, Joe
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 15:42:47 GMT-10
Subject: Handcrank
I have been watching a British TV series called The Elliott Sisters
which is about two sisters setting up a Haute Couture Fashion house
in the 1920's in London. I love watching the fashions of the 1920's
and the furniture in each set is superb. Anyway, you can imagine my
excitement when Jack carries in a Singer hand- crank sewing machine
(exactly the same as mine) to help poor Tilly who does all the sewing
by hand. I don't know who was more excited Tilly or me!
I saw a modern-day (well 1962) Singer hand-crank machine in a junk
shop when I was on holiday. I was amazed that hand-cranks were still
produced by Singer in 1962. It was a beige colour with the #185K.
I guess a famers wife on a remote property needed a hand-crank
machine as there was no electicity. I didn't buy it and I haven"t
stopped kicking myself since. They only wanted A$25 for it.
All those lost opportunities.......
Elizabeth
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Date: 20 Feb 96 06:41:00 EST
Subject: Another FW &More Sewing Antiques
Dear FWFanatics:
Another FW recently found us, and I literally mean, IT found US! A gentleman,
probably in his late 60's had parked his car next to ours outside a sew/vac
store we were in, and he was waiting for us to come out to talk with us. I
hadn't noticed him in the store, but my DH had, and he said the old gentleman
had been in there asking the manager to take a machine for sale on consignment.
They turned him down, but he overhead my interest in old machines. He told us
his wife had died nearly a year ago, and he was looking to sell her very small
Singer, and would we possibly be interested. He said it was real small, in a
case, and he would like to get $100 for it. He didn't have the machine with
him, but he only lived a few miles away, so we agreed to meet again a short
while later after he'd gone home to retrieve the little machine. It turned out
to be a tan FW! Still in it's tan/brown case with the bobbin case and all cords
and original manual. No attachments, but in real good condition, and it runs
very quietly. It had been serviced by the same sew/vac store we were all in,
shortly before his wife passed away. It was a bit dusty, but a good bath is all
it needed. He was so nice that he even offered to hold my check (which I was
surprised he'd even take) until later that evening after I had time to check it
out at home. The acquisition of this FW has got to be my most unusual
experience so far, and just plain good luck. He said he knew it was probably
worth more, but $100 was all he wanted for it. I assured him I would take good
care of his wife's dear little FW.
Then, this past week-end we took in a large antique show--over 400 vendors.
There were very few machines, but many other wonderful old sewing articles.
And, yes, a few were irresistible! They were -- a Singercraft guide (#121079)
in good condition. Old green Singer oval oil can--this time with oil and the
screw-top cap. Two Army/Navy needle packets--one from Germany and one from
Japan. Two open-loop handle screw drivers--one Singer and one New Home. A
Singer sewing thimble. A WONDERFUL old Brooks thread tin--which is just
adorable! It measures 3x5x1.5" with a folding top handle, but inside is the
best news--painted in the lid is a beautiful yellow spray of flowers and it
says, "Brook's Soft Finish Spool Cotton is the best for all machines and hand
sewing. Brook's Glace for the Willcox &Gibbs Machine". Also found a 1930's
Singer give-away ad card which was also a straight-pin card--with all the pins
still intact. A couple trade cards--J&P Coats dated 1881 with the back side
being a chart of needle and thread numbers for 16 machines of the era listing
what needle/thread to use for any task ranging from "coarse work" to "finest
work" and 4 steps in between. The second card is a Singer trade card with "The
Singer Obelisk" on the back side, and it lists the actual number of Singers sold
in 1862 through 1880, by several of the years. Two complete Singer buttonholer
attachments--1948 and 1960 models.
The last item I would like to describe is truly amazing to me, and I would
appreciate any additional information on it from anyone who is familiar with
this thing. In the last four weeks I have come across three tin Boye
shuttle/bobbin/needle vendor cases, and finally I couldn't resist the one with
the least rust and dings--really good condition, in fact. It's a round
contraption measuring 16" in diameter by a little over 3" high with a rotating
inside shelf, and painted navy blue and white. There's no date on it, but I am
guessing it's at least as early as 1911, because that patent date is printed on
one of the accompanying wood needle tubes inside. It's a little hard to
describe in few words, but printed ALL around the top face of the case in
alpha-order (like a clock face) are the names of dozens and dozens of machine
brands, and accompanying those names are numbers corresponding to the required
needle/shuttle/bobbin for each machine. In the center is a large dial which you
spin to the corresponding number of shuttle/bobbin/needle you need, and a small
triangular shaped door slides opens to reveal the parts inside the case. It
even came with ten wood needle tubes (most with needles) and one shuttle tube
(with the shuttle still inside). I just love this thing--it really feels like
you are witnessing a piece of sewing history. It appears to have been
manufactured in Chicago. I asked one antique dealer if she was familiar with
this Boye vendor case, and she said she was, but she has only seen two in her
20-year antiquing history. I have found three in the last four weeks, but never
any before that I can remember. I am just sure I have a little guardian angel
who has been going on these antiquing safaris with me lately!
Forgive me for rambling on so much, but I just had to share these exciting
finds! Happy hunting to all of you, because there are many wonderful old things
out there waiting to be found by those of us who treasure them.........Shirley
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Subject: Question for Graham
Date: 20 Feb 1996 12:20:45 GMT
Hi Graham,
I don't know if this question has been asked of you before. What do you
recommend to shine up the older machines ? Also what do you use to
disperse the caked on goo of over zealous oiling of previous owners, -and
start again. TIA
Greta
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Date: 20 Feb 96 11:20:46 EST
Subject: Contribution
Responding to Joyce R request on Hansel and Gretel Machines. These were
made by the Casige company in Germany in the period immediatley before and after
the second world war.
The Hansel &G decoration was used on at least two models, one, the no 5 had its
lever mechanism exposed being bolted onto the face of the sheet -steel machine's
flat frame. The later version, the No 50 was made up of two pressed steel,
formed sheets which eclosed the mechanism and gave the machine a "third
dimension". Hope that makes sense.
Casigi which started production in 1903 as the extension of a well-established
lock factory was the second-most-prolific toy manufacturer after Muller. The
title came from the inventor's name and his place of business CArl SIeper of
GEvelsberg.
America was the second largest market for these machines (Britain being the
first). Colour and condition are all important with tin-plate toys. A H&G with
black as the base colour would need to be in over 7 condition with its original
box to rate near the $275 price tag. If the background colour is red or green
then condition 5 or over is OK.The above notwithstanding, do expect the price on
pre-plastic-era toys to keep climbing as more and more people start collecting.
Expect prices to be lower on the East Coast and higher on the West
Look out for other fairy tales depicted on the machines including Red Riding
Hood.
A word to the many members who are now obviously hunting in antique malls and
co-operatives.Keep going back and talking to the owner. An antique dealer may
well fight shy of buying a sewing macjhine for resale if he has no idea of to
whom he might sell it. But if he's got a lady who comes into his shop every
month he might well give a machine a try.
Graham F ISMACS,
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 96 16:45:30 -0800
Subject: book
Looking fror Strips That Sizzle by M..Miller. Its out of print' new
quilter would appreciate help.
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 18:17:20 -0500
Subject: 201 Manual?
Hi All,
Is there anyone out there who would be willing to send me a copy of their
Singer 201 manual? I'd be happy to reimburse for costs. Please e-mail
Thanks,
Katy
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:20:35 -0500
Subject: model 66 questions
Hello Fellow Enthusiasts!
Today I opened the 1919 model 66 treadle that came home in early December.
The DH and I had cleaned, oiled and given it a new treadle belt but were not
completely happy with the movement. Today after having sat a bit and letting
the oil work in - she moved like a champ! I compared it to Nannie B's 50's
era electric 66 that came home last month and found that the treadle is
missing the felt to oil the bobbin mechanism. Any ideas on what I can do for
the short term until I get to the Singer dealer to get the real thing or do I
need to get the real thing with a home rigged fix?
In looking at the box of attachments that arrived to go with Nannie's 66, I
found some intersting items. One is a needle threader that was advertised in
the back of the manual. It looks like a pocket knife. One end opens for the
threader. The other is a straight blade for stitch removal. Nannie obviously
did not care for the ripper - only half the tool is here. The thing that I can
not identify - is a black almost flat, ameoba shaped with a straight edge
plate. There are two holes of thread spool size. The number on the reverse is
121309 Simanco. Any ideas?
Also interesting to me - both machines are identified by Singer as 66s. The
older machine has an odd foot. It looks like a high shank but it is not
straight to the feed dogs. It bends at about a 30 degree angle to the left.
Nannie's is a short shank machine. Any idea on when the feet where changed?
Also any idea on what I call those strange feet when I go looking for them?
the cabinet has a wonderful drawer where the feet would nest - of course, I
*HAve* to find them!
Any help will be much appreciated! Happy hunting!
Teresa
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 20:21:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 2/19/96
Barbara: A Stitch Back in Time has Singer slide plates for model 127 for
$5 each. Specify front or rear. Ph:1-800-352-1174
Ima: The Featherweights on the database that begin with EH have build
dates that range from 12/18/51 to 3/4/53. You can find out your machines
"birthdate by calling the Singer at 1-(800)877-7762.
And I have an Announcement: Sue now has the Featherweight survey on the
FWFanatics home page. If you would like to add your machine to the
Featherweight database you can either e-mail me and I will send you a copy,
or you can fill out Sue's form. (Thanks Sue, for all the work you've done
to get this up and running) If anyone uses the new form, please include your
e-mail address in case I have any questions. I will also let you know
your machines "birthdate" when I get the answer back from Singer. Also, if
I have your e-mail address, I will verify that I received the survey, as I
want to make sure I get each and every one.
I am working on getting photos of each of the options on the survey, and
I'll let you know when they are also on the survey page.
Happy Featherweighting! Krisi
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 10:34:45 EST
Subject: Willcox &Gibbs
Recently I was in an antique mall and spotted an unusual sewing
machine on the bottom shelf of a display case. I got down on my
hands and knees to look at the little beauty. It was a Willcox &
Gibbs electric machine with the original manual, a box of attachments
and several packages of Willcox &Gibbs needles. When I looked at
the price I thought that it was a little high and so I left it there
and went looking elsewhere. After looking at two other Willcox &
Gibbs machines I went back and tried the first one. We set it up on
the floor and when I sewed on it it purred like a kitten. Needless
to say I bought it and it is now in a place of honor in my studio.
The gold is complete and the chrome plate is unscratched. The serial
number is A732900. I wonder if anyone out there can help me date my
little beauty. Thanks in advance.
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 09:17:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW'S For Sale
Graham-Thanks so much for discussing the Hansel and Gretal, I saw her
yesterday and she is in mint condition. Prices of both Featherweights and
Toys continue to sore in California. Gail I'm in the SD area if you need
a tour. As a special bonus for those buying machines I will be including
a copy of the parts and mechanics repair manual. I know many want to tear
down their machines. I agree with Gail and do caution that if you are not
a mechanic you may bend or screw up the timing which could cause a large
repair bill.
AF Birthdate 4-10-40 Attachments, Case, Manual, very good condition
with even wear. $375.
AG BD 2-18-46 Attachments, Case, Manual, good condition, wear on the black.
$350.
AJ BD 1-23-50 Attachments, Case, Manual, very good condition, even wear,
AM BD 6-10-55 Attachments, Case, Manual, great condition, later edition
scrollwork. $510.
AJ BD10-26-50 An Anniversary, Attachments, Case, Manual, gold good, a
few scratches on black, scratch on throat plate. $495.
AM Case, later edition scrollwork, very good condition- $475.
AJ BD 12-9-48, good condition, case, manual copy, attachments. $450.
AJ BD 3-18-49, good condition, gold good, wear on black, attachments,
case, copy manual $450.
AL BD 12-12-52 Attachments, Case, copy manual, gold good, wear on black
2 Post War Buttonholers $35. includes shipping
1 Pre WWII Buttonholers same
1 New White FW Motor $115.
I am previewing other machines this week and hope to find more
treasures. Please feel free to e for more details. Toy machines also
available, but will preface that with they are very pricy here on the
West Coast.
Zsux
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 12:25:37 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Walking Foot
Hi All,
I am having some nomenclature problems. Mary Picken refers to a "Walking
Foot" and speaks of it as an official Singer attachment/"fashion aid".
But the closest reference I can find in Singer company literature is
something known as the "Even-Feed". I would claim to know what a Walking
Foot is (I use a generic one for machine quilting) but I have no idea if
an "Even Feed" is the same as a walking foot. Can anyone help? Or sell
me an "Even-Feed" so I can try to figure it out myself??
Thanks for any help,
Daryl
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 14:58:02 -0500
Subject: Attachments For Sale
I've been collecting attachments and have weeded out what I want to keep so
here is what I have for sale:
1 green Singer cardboard box with a complete set of Singer attachments to fit
a FW. Includes ruffler, edge stitcher, multislotted binder, adjustable
hemmer, foot hemmer, gatherer, and a bias cutting gauge (fits on the tip of
your scissor to cut bias strips). The attachments are fine but the box is in
rough shape. $30
1 metal box of Greist attachments. These will NOT fit a fw. They will fit
older top clamping machines such as White, Kenmore, Domestic, Franklin,
Worlds, Dressmaker according to the Sincere repair book. The box itself is
black meta with faint gold decoration and says WHITE across the top, it nas a
blue velvet lining. It is in fair condition, some scratches. LOTS of
attachments (I think I counted at least 11) I do not know what all of them
are but it does have a ruffler, binder, several hemmers, a foot hemmer etc.
No Manual. $20
Singer buttonholer in green plastic box, part number 160506, will fit a
FW.Good condition, includes original manual and 2 extra templates for a total
of 7. Also has feed dog cover. $29
If interested, please e-mail. Above pices do not include
shipping. Thanks a bunch. Katy
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 13:53:15 -0600
Subject: Country Extra Magazine
Hello all. I haven't written for a while, but I still enjoy getting the
digest every day and reading about all of your adventures, etc.
I saw an article in the Country Extra magazine (most recent edition)
yesterday about a lady who had an old Domestic sewing machine
and she had written to the magazine hoping to find a source for
needles for her machine. Obviously, she didn't know about this
digest!! Perhaps one of you were one who saw her plea in the
magazine and responded to her.
Darlene
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Date: 21 Feb 96 17:28:00 EST
Subject: Contributions
To Shirley
The Boyle shuttle/needle dispensers were sold as kits to sewing-machine and
hardwear outlets from around 1920 to the late 30s.Fairly common on the East
Coast but get rarer the further west you go.The earliest versions had shuttles
for 19th century machines and are prized by collectors. Have also seen one set
into the top of a cotton dispenser.
To Greta
Getting caked grease and oil off an old machine requires either bravery or
patience. As I'm not going to risk being responsible for the possible outcome of
some of the more drastic solutions that are used by experienced people in the
trade, I suggest the slow, safe route of continual soaking in WD 40 which will
do the job eventually with little or no risk to paintwork. You can also try some
of the foaming car upholstery cleaners.
To shine up try another product available at the car accessory shop --
Armoral.Not sure of the spelling, off hand, but it's right phonetically.
To Ima
Correction, the E on a Singer number does not refer to England but to
Elizabethport NJ where your machine was made. For the record there was never a
Singer factory in England, only the giant one at Kilbowie, Scotland. Machines
make there had the suffix K.
To Joe
Re the Singer store signs. Of the last four Singer enamel signs that I bought,
two came from NH and one from Mass so you are in the right area to find them.
Be prepared to pay a premium for the earlier pictorial signs. Singer changed the
design four times to up-date the woman's dress.They were produced between 1905
and 1935. These came in various sizes from 1ft high to 5ft.
Even more of a prize is the large Singer lithograph framed and glazed showing
the first Singer machine in use. As I understand it one of these was presented
to every major Singer outlet in the 1910 period.
To Elizabeth,
Hand-crank machines were produced by Singer well into the 60s and even today
there are companies producing hand-crank Singer clones for the third world.
Any way of packaging some of that Wagga Wagga warmth (how's that for
alliteration) and sending it express to London?
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 1996 21:48:42 -0500
Subject: Fwd: Advice
Hello all...I've been avidly reading all the FWF postings for the past month.
At first I thought I'd only be interested in Featherweights (I have 1, a
delightful AF in near mint condition). Boy was I wrong! I purchased the 99-13
from MillieMack and love it!!
This past weekend, we went to my parents and mom and I went "shopping". At
the first stop there was a "Princess" treadle machine in a beautiful cabinet,
with attachments in a tin that was labeled "Princess" also, it was in the
loft of a barn, pushed back in a corner, mom &I were able to read on a plate
on the machine that it was patented in 1886. The asking price was $40,
anyone know or ever hear of this brand/model. I can have mom go pay for it &
pick it up for me, my parents live on a lake &I don't think there's any
danger of it being sold till after Memorial Day when the "summer" people
arrive. There was also a Singer buttonholer w/cams in the green box, the
manual had a copyright of 1940's, it looked to be in mint condition, asking
price was $10, also a Griest buttonholer w/cams in gray box, the manual had a
copyright of 1950's, this too appeared to be in mint condition &asking price
was $8. Are these reasonable prices?
At the next stop there was a Singer 301, the machine was light brown, had
attachments &manual, in a cabinet with a chair with storage under the seat,
asking price was $35. Since I'm new to this, any advice or comments will be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks for letting me rattle.
Laura
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 18:20:29 -0500
Subject: Boye needle case
Boye Shuttle and Needle Vendor Case:
I also have one of these cases. Thanks again to Santa. I have seen 2 before
in antique shops in the past 10 years. The first one I saw even had most of
the shuttles still in it!! I didn't pick it up at the time 'cause being alot
closer to the starving student days, I didn't want to pay what they were
asking ( $80 ?? ) for something with that much rust on it. Also I hadn't
seen one before, and didn't know what it was worth.
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Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1996 17:43:38 -0600
Subject: Sale
We have four Singer Featherweights for sale. All have cases in good conditions.
We have a 1934 model with attachments, case, bobbin case and book. Ak
with attachments, bobbin case and case. A second AK with no attachments, but
a book,
bobbin case and case. An AG with a few attachments, bobbin case and case.
Barbara F
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Date: Sun, 18 Feb 1996 19:02:16 -0500
Subject: Trade-in info pt2
As promised here is the final installment of the Trade-in information from
Singer to their dealers. Unfortunately, they didn't see fit to list the
dates of manufacture for the Featherweight.
Dates of manufacture of various Singer machines.
Treadles--
9-W-7.......................................................1909 to 1913
115-1.......................................................1912 to 1935
15-30.......................................................1895 to 1933
27-4........................................................1889 to 1913
127-3.......................................................1913 to ----
66-1 (Egyptian (green) Ornamentation........................1902 to 1906
66-1 Scroll (red) Ornamentation.............................1906 to 1923
66-4........................................................1923 to ----
Portables
128-3.......................................................1917 to ----
128-13......................................................1917 to ----
66-13.......................................................1920 to ----
99K5........................................................1924 to 1925
99K10.......................................................1922 to 1924
99K13.......................................................1924 to 1924
99-13.......................................................1925 to ----
101-10......................................................1922 to 1926
101-11......................................................1925 to 1929
Electric Tables
66-6-19.....................................................1921 to 1925
66-6-20.....................................................1923 to 1926
66-6-305....................................................1925 to 1925
66-6-306....................................................1928 to 1931
66-6-40.....................................................1925 to ----
101-1-17, 18, 19............................................1920 to 1925
101-2-20....................................................19?? to 1926
101-3-40....................................................1925 to 1930
101-4-40....................................................1929 to 1937
Average Cash Price of Treadle Machines
1906 - 1912 $36.80 to 41.60
1913 - 1917 $39.60 to 44.40
1918 - 1920 $44.40 to 55.60
1921 - 1928 $60.80 to 67.20
1928 - 1935 $72.25 to 85.00
1935 - 1946 $84.00 to 115.00
Average Cash Price of Electric Portables
128 99 221-1
1922 - 1934 $59.50 $77.00 **
1934 - 1941 59.50 85.00 $88.00
1946 - 1946 69,50 95.00 105.00
Average Cash Price of Electric Consoles
66 101 201 15-91
1920 - 1925 $120.00 $140.00 ** **
1926 - 1935 140.00 178.00 ** **
1936 - 1946 155.00 ** $175.00 $150.00
** Not produced during this period.
Everything above is copied verbatum from the list that Singer published. I
am not responsible for the accuracy of the information. The date listed
above with the two ?? (Model 101-2-20) indicates that I was unable to
decypher the numbers on the original document.
I hope this information is helpful
Jim
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 00:23:55 -0600 (CST)
Subject: FW find
Yesterday I was on my way to the bread store, but when I got there they had
moved to a new location. ON the way I passed an antique Mall, so I stopped
in. One of the merchant had just put out a FW. It was in mint condition and
so was the case. I could only find one small stractch on the machine and
none of the gold was worn off. The case looked brand new. The serial number
started with ES and was also stamped made in Great Britian. The number 221K
was also stamped on it. I thought only the white or green were stamped with
221K but I guess I was wrong. The light switch wasn't on the base of the
machine, it was on the top of the light. I had never seen one like that
before. Does anyone know if that is the way all the 221K are made? Please
let me know. It also had 2 manuals, buttonhole box and manual, and all the
attachments in the box. In the attachment box was a unusal thimble. I
believe it to be sterling silver and around the edge of the thimble is 7
coral stones and 1 opal stone. It happen to be just my size. I was really
surprise because I have small fingers. Does anyone KNow anything about
thimbles or could someone find out if it is old or anything about it? Please
let me know. Anyway I ask the man if it included everything in the case and
he said it included everything. The FW serial number starts with ES and was
born on May 5, 1961. I paid $400. for the FW but I felt that it was worth
every penny of it, especially since the thimble was included, too.
Thanks, Sheila
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 10:47:14 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 2/20/96
I had a funny thing happen to me yesterday. After waiting forever on the
Singer line, I asked for info about my two 401a's (serial nos. NA &NB). When
she came back, the operator said they don't have info on machines that new!
I've gotten something about my 301's (with similar nos, one even from 1963),
so I really don't understand. Is it something more than serial numbers - were
different machines produced at different times with similar numbers? Maybe
I'll just try calling again and asking the same question to see what happens.
I sewed on my latest 401a yesterday and it just purrs - what a nice machine!
Sue M.
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 19:27:00 -0500 (EST)
Subject: part search ATT:Larry
I AM in need of a slide plate for a singer 201,any help would be greatly
appreciated. Regards, Larry
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Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 2/21/96
I found a toy Singer sewing machine in very good condition, old but no date
in an antique shop. The asking price was $195. Is this a good price?
Appreciate hearing from you.
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 21:42:08 -0500
Subject: Singer Spartan
I had a blast. It was soooo much fun. Oh, excuse me, you didn't ask
yet. How was my trip to see my sister in Portland? Great, I had a
blast......found lots of goodies. Anyway, now with my trip discussed, I
would like to know anything and everything about the Singer Spartan. My
sister got the FW bug while I was there and has been out hunting. She called
to say she picked up a Singer Spartan. It is light green, has 192K on the
front, serial number is ES (I figure its about 1962), is in its own case with
the lid which is also green with a green stripe. She says it weighs about 25
lbs. She'd like to know if its a keeper. She paid $20 for it.
Unfortunately there are no attachments nor a manual. Does anyone have one
to sell? Any info on this machine would be greatly appreciated.
AND......while playing in the Salem area, I came across what I initally
though was a FW case. I opened it up to find it alittle different and very
empty. I looked up and saw the cutest little General Electric sewing
machine. I don't remember awhole lot about it, just that it wasn't a FW and
I was short on time and couldn't spend alot of time inspecting everything.(It
was coming up on dinner time) Somebody else just said something about a
General Electric portable similiar to the FW. I'm thinking about asking my
sister to go back and pick it up for me. Can someone shed some light about
this machine also? Does it sew as well as a FW? and can I use the same
attachments? Thanks for all the great times. Jacque
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 22:25:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject:
For Laura: Based on my own experience, I'd say the $8-$10 range for the
buttonholers is entirely reasonable.
Speaking of cams...I have a couple of extras that I am willing to part
with. I would LOVE to trade one or more of them for someone's extra 3/8"
cam, so I can have one complete set of the five standard plus the five
additional. I have one 5/16", one 5/8", and two 13/16" available. If no
one has an extra 3/8", e-mail me for these, first come, first serve. Did
I mention that they're free to a good home?
I have the opportunity to drive about thirty miles north of Columbus on
Saturday morning to take in an auction that is listing an "oak treadle
sewing machine". I don't know the maker, but it can't hurt to look.
Also, I happen to sit down at lunch today with someone I hadn't eaten with
for a while. We were making conversation, and she asked me was I ever on
the internet and what did I do. One thing led to another and guess what
-- her mom has her aunt's old Singer treadle, and she might be willing to
part with it. I'll keep you all posted.
Jim (I think it's you)...thanks for the pricing and serial number
information. I intend to take it with me tomorrow. If my friend got a
serial number off of the treadle, I can at least tell her about how old it
is.
Lydia
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 22:50:14 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Walking Foot- Even Feed
From what I understand the even-feed and the walking foot are one in the
same. I think that different manufactures call them by different names. I
have taken a few machine quilting class and different instructor call them
different names. I hope this helps.
Thanks, Sheila
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 21:53:22 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: 301
To Laura - Go back NOW and get the 301! They are a treasure
and as the word spreads, they are getting more expensive. Check it out,
of course, to see if it runs well. Even if you aren't interested in the
cabinet, the 301 is easily made portable by just lifting it out. It has
a fold-up handle on the head. I saw one recently at a sew &vac place for
$200 and the dealer said they are one of the best machines Singer has
ever made. I, of course, agreed, but passed on that price.
I've been collecting information on these machines and will soon post my
findings. Please let me know how you like it.
Kolleen
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Date: 23 Feb 96 05:39:43 EST
Subject: Contribution
To Bonnie
Sorry I can't be accurate with a date for your Willcox and Gibbs. My detailed
records only go up to 1880.
The machines were virtually unchanged from the 1880s to the 1950s but if your
machine is the one with the electric motor sitting very much to the right of the
head, it will date from the 1930s period.
To Laura
Two companies made machines under the brand name Princess. They were the
National SM Co of Chicago which was born in 1890 out of the former Eldridge SM
Co. It merged with Free and New Home in the 1930s and the name finally
disapeared in 1954.
The second company to market a Princess was the Standard SM Co of Cleveland in
production from 1884 and eventually absorbed by Singer. Can find no trace of the
company after 1933.
Do not be confused by patent dates. Such a date on a machine simply means that
it is using an earlier patent for some small part of its design and therefore
could have been produced many years after the patent date displayed.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:44:54 -0600 (CST)
Subject: SewHandy toy
After telling myself I wouldn't "get into" the toy machines, I found one the
other day at our local antique mall that I couldn't resist. It's an electric,
chain stitch Model 50D from 1963. It's in perfect condition and sews nicely.
I paid $32.50 -- have no idea if that's high or low, but I wanted it and I was
in the mood. I have a question for Graham Forsdyke, though. Graham, in one of
your recent posts, you told someone else that Singer made 4 Sew Handy's -- two
of them were toys and those were both Model 20s. The instruction booklet with
this machine very clearly says Model 50D. Am I misinterpreting what you said?
I'm still very new to machine collecting and almost totally UNknowledgeable --
I haven't even SEEN a FW with my own eyes yet and only saw one in a picture for
the first time last week. I keep telling myself I won't get into those,
either, cuz they're way too expensive. However, I feel the bug crawling around
leaving its little trail of doubt in there. Someone STOP me! ;-) Jill M
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:17:43 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Featherweight information
Hi:
My name is Linda S. I'm an avid sewer. (Work to suppot my
habbit)! I also own a FW machine. I don't sew on it, just collect machines
of various types. Purchased it at a flew market for $30.00. Interested in
knowing about the motor on it and also the bobbin case (can they be
replaced and where are the parts available?)
Enjoy all the material about the FW on www.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 10:30:56 -0500
Subject: Other Worthy Singers?
This is my first posting, although I've been getting the list for a few weeks
now. I think this place is going to be a bad influence on me -- I can hardly
wait for the flea markets to begin in May! I told my DH that I was going to
start collecting sewing machines and he said "Does that mean I have to build
a piece on the garage?"
I am a quilter and the proud owner of three FWs, a Singer treadle, and an old
White. I'd like to know what other Singer models are known as good machines.
I've seen the 15-91 mentioned, but I don't know how to identify one.
I'd appreciate any information on other great models along with tips on
identifying them.
Diana
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:20:50 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 2/22/96
As to the Toy for 195. if the working mechanism of the machines are
exposed then I would say it is Pre WWII. Depending on the condition of
the machine, if it was superior then 195. on the west coast would sound
about right, eventhough I've seen one for a little less in good
condition. All toys are grabbed up like crazy in southern CA. so when I
see, a German art deco, Singer-20, I get it. I am a quilter, teach, and
lecture and one of my new developing lectures is doll quilts, antique
doll beds, dolls, and Toy Machines. This is presented all together in a
set up with different beds, dolls and machines in a grouping. Zsux
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 08:33:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Labor treadle
Hello!
Although I've been avidly reading this digest daily for a couple of
months this is my first post. A friend has asked me to post some
information on her sister's old machine. It is a Labor treadle machine
(serial no 1445115 or 4445115). "Labor" is painted in gold on the case
and sewing machine. The cabinet has wood inlay. The machine has a
copper seal with to god Mercury riveted on it . Also the machine has a
griffin painted on it. Sounds really wild to me!. She woul like to find
a source of Eldredge long bobbins for it. Any information on this would
be greatly appreciated.
Happy hunting,
Nola M
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Date: 23 Feb 96 11:30:57 EST
Subject: Contributions
To mayek
$195 is a touch high for any Singer toy unless it is in red, blue or green or is
the early straight-spoked-wheel variety
Look to pay for the earlier (exposed mechanism) models around $150 but beware
repicas made in Turkey. The 1910 to 1914 versions of these have a four-straight
spokes on the hand wheel and are OK at $200.
The later enclosed-mechanism models are the ones that come in various colours.
Look to pay $100 unless it's one of the colours mentioned above.
Expect to pay a premium if buying from a specialist dealer.
Factory designations
There's been some confusion over Singer factory designation codes, some,
understandably, believing that E was for England.
The following list is for all Singer "factories". I am using the word factory to
describe a location where machines were either built or assembled.
A Anderson South Carolina
AP Lagos Nigera
B Bonnieres France
BE Casablanca Morocco
BG Bancock Thailand
C Campinas Brazil
CH Santiago Chili
Cy Ratmalana Ceylon
E Elizabeth NJ USA
F Taytay Phillipines
G Karlsruhe Germany
GH Tema Ghana
H Karachi Pakistan
HC Chittigong East Pakistan
J St Jaohns Canada
K Clydebank Scotland
L Bogota Colombia
LM Kinshasha Congo
M Monza Italy
ML Petaling Malaysia
N Taichung Taiwan
P Penrith NSW Australia
PR Lima Peru
Q Johannesburg S Africa
R Querataro Mexico
T Delhi India
TN Tunis Tunisia
U Utsunomiga Japan
V Buenos Aires Argentinia
VN Saigon South Vietnam
Y Maltepe Turkey
Z Alcenon France
There were also "factories" in Wurselen in Germany and Alencon in France but I
can find no record of designations for them.
Just before the Russian Revolution 1917 Singer built a vast plant in Russia but
after the dust settled it was taken over by the Bolsheviks. Whether it was given
a designating letter I do not know. The orginal showroom still stands in Moscow.
It is now a bookstore.
Best wishes
Graham F , ISMACS, London
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 06:59:08 -0500
Subject: Singer 301
Laura,
In a message dated 96-02-22 20:53:24 EST, you write:
>At the next stop there was a Singer 301, the machine was light brown, had
>attachments &manual, in a cabinet with a chair with storage under the seat,
>asking price was $35. Since I'm new to this, any advice or comments will be
>greatly appreciated.
>Thanks for letting me rattle.
>Laura.
BUY IT!!!!! You will love this machine and this is a great deal. Katy
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 11:33:50 CST
Subject: fw for sale
Hi.
I recently acquired an AG featherweight. She is in very good condition
with only a bit of wear on one part of the gold paint. PostWWII style
face plate, but fancy gold paint. The black finish is in pretty good
condition as is the case. There are several attachments that come with
it (tho no green box) and there is a key for the case. There is also a
manuyal copyright 1947. I'm asking $325 plus shiping OBO. She was
reently serviced and sews a sweet stitch.
Michele
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 96 14:26:17 EST
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 2/22/96
Looking for a case (any color) and a latch for a case for a Singer
"Featherweight." E-Mail if you can help and thanks.
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 14:48:40 -0500
Subject: White Manual &another good book &etc.
Is there someone out there who needs a manual for A White
Family Rotary Sewing Machine? I have an original titled
"Book 5. Automatic Lift, Directions for using the White
Family Rotary Sewing Machine." There is no date on the
booklet, but it is old and shows a No. 25 Automatic Swing
Drop Rotary treadle cabinet on page 2. It also has a list
of Stand Parts for Ball Bearing Stands, White Box Top, White
Cabinet, White Automatic Swing Drops Nos. 24, 25, 26 and 27
Rotaries on page 2. The booklet is complete, but dog-eared
and about to fall apart. I offer it for $10 (U.S. postage
paid).
My DH bought a pretty good book recommended by Gordy Jones
called *Owner's Guide to Sewing Machines, Sergers and
Knitting Machines* by Gale Grigg Hazen, published in Radnor,
PA by the Chilton Book Company ($12.95 suggested retail
price). I am not selling this book, but am suggesting that
others find and buy the book or check it out from a library.
I was waiting for Gordy to mention it in FWF.
Even though the book is based on modern machines it
nonetheless covers a lot of things that are applicable to
our "antiques" in a very clear manner. After reading the
book I am throwing out all of my cotton-poly thread (or
hiding it in a deep closet) and buying only high-quality
cotton thread. Hazen says "Cotton-wrapped polyester thread
is the worst of both worlds." She convinced me! In a tip
for cleaning the outside of antique machines Hazen says,
"...use Grumbacher's oil-paint cleaner, which you can find
at any art supply or craft store." I have not tried it yet.
She warns that alcohol on black lacquer will remove the art
work on old machines.
Yesterday during my regular weekly prowl of the local antique/junk stores I
found a little White machine without a case. It worked when I turned the
handwheel. It was priced at only $12 so I rescued it. It obviously needed a
home and loving attention after managing to keep itself together with all its
plates, the bobbin winder, and the bobbin case with one bobbin for all these
years (I am sure someone removed the treadle base to make a plant stand). She
is very, very dirty. I'll try all the suggestions I've found in FWF to clean
her up. The last patent date on one of her slide plates is 1891. Do you
suppose if I have the slide plates re-chromed that the engraved lettering
will still show?
Christine
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 15:02:38 -0500
Subject: Re:&etc. Correction on machine
In a message dated 96-02-23 14:48:41 EST, I wrote:
Yesterday during my regular weekly prowl of the local antique/junk stores
I found a little White machine without a case.l.... The last patent date on
one of her slide plates is 1891. >>
The patent date is 1881, not as reported above.
Christine
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 12:15:33 -0900 (AKST)
Subject: This is an illness
Is there a 12 step program for sewing machine addicts? I am
beginning to think the introductory note for FWFAN should come
with a warning label:
WARNING: Subscribing to this list is the beginning of an
insidious addiction. Only proceed if you have lots of room in
your home to house your collection or you are willing to move to
a larger home. In addition, huge amounts of time will be consumed
scouting auctions, antique stores, garage sales and estate sales.
Family members should be warned
that this FW fever is very contagious and that there is no immunization
or treatment available. Proceed at your own risk. We warned you!
Yes, I have this illness. It progressed slowly at first. Living
on an island in Alaska did not lend itself to haunting pawn
shops, estate sales, or antique stores. But, I moved. To the
lower 48! My opportunities dramatically increased. I read the classifieds,
attended every garage sale I could find. I became intimately acquainted
with the Salvation Army, Goodwill and St. Vincent DePauls.
In my search, I bought a 66-15, and a badly abused 99 (for $2.00 it was
worth it to see what was in the case... it was locked..and no key), and
another machine..I'm not sure what it is...Let's see, what else?
a Singer toy machine. And still, not even
a glimpse of a FW. I realized it is much more difficult to shop
for something when you've never actually seen one. Then, one day,
there it was. An advertisement for a fw. I immediately called to
see if they still had it and drove directly to the store and purchased
the cutest little machine I had ever seen. It did not end there.
My mother accompanies me to auctions and sales. We are on a first
name basis with antique dealers , auctioneers and other addicted
individuals like ourselves. Aren't mothers suppose to be a good
influence? My mother is no help. We ran across a FW with a buttonholer
(Thanks Margel) I didn't really want the machine, it wasn't that nice but
I did want the buttonholer. I had will power, I was walking away.
But, my mother intervened...."Can't you sell it and keep the
buttonholer?" They came down $25.00 and my checkbook was out....
The next day at a n auction I bought a gorgeous 66-16 with assorted
goodies and The Singer Sewing Machine Reference Book with 6 or so
cellophane packages of "practice fabric" for practicing the
sewing lessons in the book. all that and an ivory crochet
hook....
for $10. Should I mention that I have my mothers and my grandmothers
treadle machines and my old Singer Golden Touch and Sew. And two
other 60 ish machines from my grandmothers. What does one woman
need with all these machines? Where can I put all of them??
And it doesn't stop, I just missed two featherweights that were
going for $135.00. My mother was heartbroken, I was heart broken.
The search continues... not for a 12 step program but for more
machines.....
Help me, sell me a big house with a basement and an attic so I
a have room for this growing collection.
Thanks for listening. And remember, this is all your fault!
Susan
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 17:12:55 -0800
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 2/22/96
Hi All:
I was just at my Viking dealer. He had a FW for sale. Looked to be in
very good condition. Had case, no keys, no manual, attachments in black
box. It was an AF. If anyone is interested call the Viking Sewing
Machine Company on Lincoln Avenue in San Jose, California. Talk to
Gordon.
I bought an older Singer (used in a tailor shop) for my business. It
sewed like a dream. The case it came in which was the bentwood (??) was
flawless. I am happy.
This is a great list. No complaints; just how happy is with their find.
Jan
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Date: Thu, 22 Feb 1996 17:22:50 -0500 (EST)
I have come across a Wilcox And gibbs tredle machine circa 1897 in excellent
condition. This piece is really sweet. If there is any interest ring me.
Regards, Larry
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Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1996 20:05:44 -0500
Subject: Buttonhole templates
Great! I like the idea of swapping some buttonhole templates that are extras
floating around. I've noticed alot in bins at thrift and second hand stores.
Now wonder some get lost. This is what I have to donate to the freebie bin:
5/16, 1/2 straight, and 1 1/16 keyhole. What I'd like to have to complete my
extra set is a 15/16 straight. Lydia this is a great idea, thanks. Jacque
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 08:29:40 -0500 (EST)
Subject: FWFanatics
I added yet another Singer to my collection. At an auction last night they
had advertised a miniature Singer sewing machine, so of course I had to
check it out. Turned out it was a model 24 (I think, from looking at the
pictures in Jim Slaten's book), small cast iron with a wooden base. I don't
think it actually runs since it's missing some sort of crank mechanism, but
it's so cute I couldn't resist. Does anyone know anything about these
machines? It's only a chain stitch mechanism, so I don't know if it
qualifies as a real machine, but since it's dated around 1913, it seems to
me to qualify as a collectible! By the way, I want to thank you wonderful
people for posting the list of machine dates and also for the detailed
description of cleaning old machines. Such a great group! By the way, the
list mentioned the NA &NB machines being made at the Anderson plant - where
was that? I'm curious since quite a few of my machines have that serial #.
Sue M.
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 10:39:24 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics
This is a cut and paste from the newsgroup, in case anyone was interested.
I am selling off my collection of Featherweights.
1 White Bisque
1 Beige
2 Black (1 early, 1 late)
1 hard to find Anniversary model
$2750 or best offer
photos available on request
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 15:11:55 -0500 (EST)
Subject: FS: Singer Featherweight Collection (fwd)
I am selling off my collection of Featherweights.
1 White Bisque
1 Beige
2 Black (1 early, 1 late)
1 hard to find Anniversary model
$2450 or best offer
Further details available
photos available on request
Thanks,
Sandy H
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Date: 24 Feb 96 15:05:59 EST
Subject: Contributions
To Jill re Sewhandy and Model 20
Yes, I guess I didn't make myself clear. The two basic designs of Model 20 were
the pre-wars open-mechanism models with only detail changes since 1910 ( this is
the one that was "re-issued by Singer Turkey) and the post war
enclosed-mechanism model.
The Sewhandy is a different animal entirely.
To Christine.
Don't even think about having the White plates chrome plated. Chrome plating is
a relatively modern invention from the 1920s.
The plates on your White would have been plated with nickle (most plating shops
can still do this). Yes, the lettering on the plates will still show unless they
are over polished before hand.
Just a word on re-plating. You can't just take a distressed part along and have
it replated. First the remants of the old plating must be removed. It's possible
to do this two ways -- by a "reverse plating" electrolitic process or by simply
scurfing and polishing it away. The first suggestion is by far the best as it
will preserve the original surface. But it's going to be a little more expensive
as the plate still has to be polished afterwards. Scurfing the old plating away
tends to remove metal you'd rather have stay there and there is a danger of
cutting into the lettering.
The quality of a plating job will depend entirely on how well the item is
polished before the plating starts. Plating does not hide blemishes -- it can
seem to magnify them.
The only other reservation I have is this if you re-plate one or two small
parts, the others, which were quite acceptable before, then start to look a
little tacky.
Graham F, ISMACS, London.
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 16:33:50 -0600
Subject: Factory designation etc.
Graham:
It seems to me that part of the confusion about people thinking E means
England is that the E as the first letter of the serial number (NOT the
model number) indicates a machine made in Great Britain. I have a 221K, it
says "Made in Great Britain" on it, and the serial number begins with ES.
So maybe, Graham, the E people are referring to is part of the serial
number. Think so? It might be helpful to let people know where the
factory designation letters appear, and how they differ from the serial
number. The only one I've ever seen is the K after the 221, but that's
probably because I haven't seen very many FW's.
Other silliness..... I bought my FW last month and am delighted with it. I
got it for a good price from MillieMack, who was a dream to do business
with! Anyway, I sewed and sewed on it the first couple of weeks I had it,
then got busy, and had to put it away for 10 days or so. Got it out again
last Sunday and had terrible thread loops on the underside of my work (it
was the top thread that was looping). Aha, I thought. The evil
scrap-of-thread-under-the-throat-plate problem.... I looked, and yes,
indeed, I found a tiny little ravelly piece. I removed it. Started
sewing. Same problem. :( Fiddled with the tension a bit, but not much.
Still getting the loops. Took out the bobbin case and inspected it.
Nothing. Hopped online and checked Gaileee's FW Re-Digest, found the bit
from Gordy on bobbins, got very brave, dismantled everything, found
nothing, re-assembled things (successfully! YAY!!!), still got the loops.
:( At this point I was irritated. Played with the tension some more. No
luck. Finally put the FW in its case and sewed on my Bernina.
Today I went to a quilting class, lugging my Bernina. Described my problem
to a couple of other FW owners, who suggested rewinding the bobbin and
playing with the tension. Sigh. Came home. Rewound the bobbin. Still
got the loops. Fiddled with the tension. Still got the.... WAIT! No
loops! What???? Huh???? So it *was* the tension, I guess? Just goes to
show you that... well.... um... I don't know *what* it goes to show you,
but there ya go. Keep trying and eventually the problems fix themselves, I
guess.
And I know all that was probably very boring to you old pros, but I figure
us novices need to be reassured that there *is* hope for us........ The
only question I still have is: what went on in the depths of that FW case
when I wasn't looking that made it misbehave suddenly after so many hours
of successful sewing?
BTW.... the strongest odor-eaters type shoe inserts, in my FW case, have
helped the musty smell a lot. It's not gone yet, and may never be, but it's
improved considerably!
Lisa
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:01:02 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 2/23/96
Hi to all out there. It's been a while since I've posted and I have a couple
of questions.
First, does anyone know if it is possible to replace the the main shaft that
runs through the head of the sewing machine and is it overly expensive?
Second - does anyone know anything about the Boyle company needle and shuttle
storage cann? I found one and I'm curious about it. It's round and made of
tin. It holds several shuttles and lots of needles for different types of
sewing machines. I think it was intended for sewing machine retailers.
Thanks in advance for any information.
Marie
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 17:24:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Bad Singer
Saw an ad for a Singer in a cabinet and followed up on it. Price was
$10.00 The DH was looking for a cabinet made for a Singer with the secure
connections. We really didn't care what the machine was. The lady said it
was white so we knew she didn't have an old one. But my daughter thought
she might be interested in the machine. Well, this was one bad Singer.
It was a slant needle, had a drop in bobbin and no zig-zag. It hummed but
didn't work so the DH took a look at it. (He can't resist seeing if he can
fix something.) Inside he found a plastic cam attached to the stitch
length mechanism. Much more complicated than it needed to be. All the parts
said Singer or Simanco, it was made in the U.S., and the motor was made in
Canada. He pronounced it junk. This was a model 719 so beware. I've
never heard of this model but guess that it was probably a cheap one.
This one goes out to the curb next garbage day with no regrets (we kept
the foot and the light bulb).
The good news is that the cabinet was sturdy and fairly wide with lots of
leg room and a storage compartment on the side. I wonder why they put
such a bad machine into such a good cabinet.
Have come across a book I bought at the auction where I got my second FW.
Somebody got the box of books I wanted but I followed him and bought a
Singer book for $1. It's called Dressmaking by Singer published in 1958.
The day I went to the library to look for The Capitalist Romance was the
day they took it out of circulation. It was still on the catalog but had
a strange note. So the man at the information desk found out for me that
they had indeed discarded it. I was hoping it would go to the Friends of
the Library weekly sale but it didn't show up there Monday night. One of
the volunteers will keep an eye out for me. It still might show up. In
the mean time I have ordered it from a nearby library.
Today is beautiful and almost warm. Maybe the garage sales will be
starting soon.
Marilyn
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 18:39:56 -0500
Subject: Different FW models
Hi Fellow Fanatics,
I was going to reply to Sheila via E-Mail but I thought this may be
of more general interest.
For Sheila,
There were four different models of the featherweight the 221-1,
221K4, 221K5,and 221K7.
It sounds like you have a model 221K4. That is the only model of FW
that Singer made with the switch on the light housing, all the others have
the switch on the bed of the machine.
Another check you can make to determine which model you have is to
check the model number of the motor (see the plate mounted on the motor).
Each of the four models of the featherweights were originally furnished with
a different motor.
Model 221-1 Model Series 3 Motor
Model 221K4 Model CAK7 Motor
Model 221K5 Model CAJ6-8 Motor
Model 221K7 Model CAK8-8 Motor
Another distinguishing feature of the 221K4 is it is the only
featherwieght model that has R.F. suppression with grounded wiring. All
that means is that it shouldn't interfere with radio or T.V. signals and
there should be a three prong plug to insert into the wall outlet.
Sorry I don't have any definitave information about which colors
each of the models were painted.
Jim
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:18:13 -0500 (EST)
Subject: As The Balance Wheel Turns....
Hi All!
Well, I drove up to Delaware (Ohio) today for the auction advertising an
"oak treadle sewing machine". This one, I'm sad to say, was in worse
shape than the one I went to see two weekends ago. It was a "Gold Star",
manufactured in Cleveland, data uncertain. A shuttle machine. It was
functional in the sense that everything moved when you turned the balance
wheel, but it was filthy, decorative painting chipped in lots of places,
tension spring either missing entirely or broken, no attachments, and no
book. One of the four drawers missing another drawer badly
chipped (chunked is more like it) on the front. I didn't even stay for the
bidding.
HOWEVER... since I was on an outing, I decided to have browse the shops
while I was up there. Delaware, Ohio, retains a viable downtown with a
glorious county courthouse and a fair amount of shops. It lacks the
traditional midwestern courthouse square, but it's a fun place to spend
the morning. Anyway, I asked about attachments at a couple of places
advertising antiques, and the result is that a Mr. Tuttle has a treadle
(Singer or White, he couldn't remember which) which he got with "a barnful
of stuff" which he may call me about next week. He says it has
attachments but no book, but I think I know this really outgoing, helpful
group on the Internet who could help me come up with a photocopy if I need
one. His asking price: $40.00, which in my book is very good for a decent
machine. He did mention that if he cleaned it up and brought it into his
shop, people would be buying it for the treadle table. I told him I
wanted it to really sew on, and I think he liked that.
As always, I will keep you posted.
And by the way, I agree with Sheila -- as far as I know, a walking foot
and an even-feed foot are the same thing.
Lydia
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 20:56:45 -0500
Subject: Boye needle dispenser case and Wheeler &Wilson treadle
While shopping at a local antique store I found a Boye needle dispenser case
and it triggered a memory of a posting I saw earlier. It was priced at $185
and the dealer said she'd take off $20. It had a single hand(similar to a
clock) in the center which pointed to various machine brands. It also had
several wooden needle cases included. I've never seen anything like this so
I didn't know if this was a fair price. Any clues? Now about the Wheeler &
Wilson treadle....The cabinet it was in was very unusual I thought. It was
quarter-sawn oak with the door appearing to be a book shelf complete with
books. But when you open the door you see that it is just a facade. Also,
on the front there is a beveled edge mirror above the "fake" books. The
machine showed heavy use (most of the painting was worn off). The gold
emblem on the base was still intact. They wanted $250. This would be my
first vintage machine, what gotcha's should I be aware of in my search?
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 21:11:41 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: FWFanatics 2/15/96
Does anyone know of a cabinet designed to fit a Singer 99? Thanks!
Peggy K
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Date: Sat, 24 Feb 1996 19:37:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics
First I enjoyed your post Jill on the Toy Machines. I felt the same
way I just would not indulge myself. Now I not only indulge myself put
also my fourteen year old who has an electric Sew Handy from 51, and a
French electric Toy Machine. I'm sticking pretty much to the German
Machines and the Singer Toys, but can't believe I'm doing this and it is
affecting my quilting and displays of antique doll beds, miniature quilts
and dolls. Susan the 12 step program does seem to be appropriate. I feel
compelled by these darn toy machines, and since prices are cheaper on the
east coast may save myself some money by going back just for Toys. Linda,
welcome I attended MSU for the first three years of my undergraduate work.
My favorite Toys are the German Art Deco, garden darlings. My daughters
tutor is French and tries to talk me out of each one I buy, so it becomes
passion that you find out others share too. I've neglected my
featherweights and am more focused now finding out about new sources.
The family pretty much thinks I've lost it. But when you sell machines it
is so tempting to just start bringing them all home old and new. And the
with the FW's they are so much into the collectors status that the people
you meet that are really into it are just a wealth of knowledge and of
great interest to me personally. I have found one that was born on my
duaghters birthday and will get it for her. No doubt she will grab the
screw driver and have that baby all into pieces in a few hours. She can
really fix these featherweights, and she is only 14. My son who is in his
third year of engineering is still trying to time the Sew Handy . I
suppose she'll eventually take it out of his hands and use the secret
timing trick I shared with her alone. Zsux
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