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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 96 11:15:14 -0500
From: Featherweight Fanatics
Subject: FW Fanatics 6/30/96
To: Sue@quilt.com
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From: sharon@cvo.oneworld.com
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 23:41:49 +0000
Subject: WTB or trade: attachments for 750
Since so many of you FWF's are collectors, I'm hoping that one of you
may have some extra parts that would fit a Singer Touch and Sew 750.
I would like to buy some or trade for them. I do have many
attachments that should fit FW's and 301's (among others), so I hope
I'm too off base in posting this in this Digest.
I would like: Special Purpose Foot, Chainstitch Fittings (I have the
throat plate but will take whole set) ,102991Buttonholer, 160691
Quilter, 161169 Gathering, 161561 Ruffler, 161226 Tucker, 161195
Hemmer, and 161875 Darning and Embroidery.
If you want to trade, I'll email a list of what I have. It's too
long to post here.
Sharon
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 96 12:25:09 -0700
From: Barbara Gorman
Subject: Wanted
Looking for information on consumer reports on the newest sewing machines
on the market. Any info?
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 21:32:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joyce Roberts
Subject: Re: FW For Sale
I've just had two additional machines come in for sale. Postage,
handling, insurance and tracking for the FW is $30 and for the 301 $35.
301 Black, Superior Condition, Accordian Case $255
White Featherweight Additional info on request. $395.
Zsuxxa
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:34:44 GMT
Subject: treadle
From: ma@usa.pipeline.com (Maggie Arlotta)
Hi all!
I'm very excited about my latest purchase. Yesterday I went to a
moving mans storage garage to see a singer treadle in cabinet.The cabinet
is one of those with 3 drawers on either side with nice carved workings.
The sides have a lot of raised works also. But most exciting was that the
drawers are full of things. Many, Many attachments which I have no idea
what they are. Best of all the wooden attachment box thats velvet lined was
in one of the drawers and its also full of unidentifiable items.It will be
so much fun learning what these are.The cabinet is darkened with age which
I like and there are no peeling vaneers or noticible scratches on it.The
head is a very colorful floral design, used well with all its parts.The
usual pin scratches in the normal places only add to its vintage in my
eyes.Needs a good cleaning but its still very shiny in spots and that
suprised me.He bought this machine from the family who origionally
purchased it and the grandmother had still been using it. Its works are all
nice and loose and she was ready to sew.All for $70 and do I feel lucky.
This is my new contact I've been speaking about and I'm not dissapointed
with his prices.His discriptions are also accurate.I'll find out the BD on
Monday.
to Graham:
This gentleman said he had and sold singers first
patented machine that was the floor model they used to display it for
$13,500.00 in recent past along with its origional papers.Stupidly I didn't
ask any further questions, what do you think?Truth or Tale?He did have a
garage full of very heavily and ornate victorian furniture, and a house
full of beautiful things. He acquires these things and then he sells them
to dealers. He states he's had many very old SM in the past but doesn't
sell much but to dealers to save himself the aggravation of the retail
business. Makes sense I guess.I think I've gotten lucky meeting this man.
Maggie in NY
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:05:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Marilyn Root
Subject: Fame and felt
To Barb Tricarico: I know how you feel. I, too, had my 15 minutes when
the May/June issue of Friends Magazine came out. Of course, it has
nowhere near the circulation of US News. I answered a post on the rctq
asking how seniors used the internet. Of course, I was enthusiastic about
getting and giving information and trading patterns, manuals, and fabrics.
Then the guy wrote back and asked me for my home address. Well, I ignored
it because you can't trust everyone on the internet, right? Then a woman
called from New York and asked if she could send a photographer because I
was in an article. I told her I had my own photographer (the DH) and we
took pictures of me and my 127 treadle with an unfinished autumn leaf quilt.
The 127 was very photogenic. The DH got photo credit.
To Rayna: I hope we got the FW to Janet on time. I told her to buy it
even if it was missing a few things. Let us know.
About that little circle of felt. I was testing one of my recent FWs
after the DH had cleaned and oiled it. It sewed all right but the
movement of the upper thread seemed loopy. The felt circle was in the box
of attachments. We put it on and the thread moved smoothly and of course
the machine was much quieter without that spool bouncing around.
I can't believe someone is charging $300 for a 99. The most expensive one
I've seen was $100. Are they benefitting from the popularity of the FWs?
Can anyone tell me the difference between a 221 and a 221-1? Just called
Singer on the last two finds and they called the centennial model a 221-1.
How do all of you handle getting your digests when you're on vacation. I
don't want to miss one, but I'm afraid they will yank me off the freenet
if my mailbox fills up.
I don't post often but I write an epistle.
Marilyn in Westerville, Ohio
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 14:37:29 -0400 (EDT)
From: "David Peters Jr."
Subject: For Sale &info
Hello,
I have a black Singer serial #AJ609908 for sale, how and where could I
advertise it.
Thanks
Dave
Also for sale is a Domestic Sewing Machine Co. model, like the
Featherweight in size S.N.: 153mg-56232 out of Cleveland Ohio.
Woulkd like info on the Domestic if anybody knows.
Also a treadle model singer S.N.:AA397628, approx. value and info desired.
Any help is appreciated and Thanks in advance.
Davep@leba.net
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 13:54:30 -0600
From: coeur@cu.soltec.com (Lisa)
Subject: More cards!
Well, Friday morning I was up earlier than usual so I headed for a garage
sale that had advertised 2 sewing machines. I got there 2 minutes after it
opened (7:02!!!) and both machines were already sold. One was still there,
but tagged "sold." It was a Singer, but relatively new, plastic housing,
not very interesting. I decided not to ask about the other one. I was
afraid it was a FW that went for $10..... and didn't really want to know
what I'd missed.
But yesterday I was luckier. No no no...... no machines. At an antique
show in our smaller mall, I found about 15 Singer trade cards, and bought 7
of them, some from 1892, some from 1914, and one from 1900. I got them for
aboud 3/4 of the marked price, too, so I feel pretty smug.
I fear I'm destined to have mostly a paper collection, with smatterings of
oil cans here and there........ and only my 3 machines (1 FW, 1 128-13 and
1 128-23). Ah well......
Lisa, in hot hot hot and humid east central Illinois
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:03:28 -0700
From: ADELAIDE LEWIS
Subject: Royal Rotary
I would like to get some information, if possible, for a good friend.
This friend found a beautiful 1938 fw for me at a flea market, so I
owe him one.
He has acquired a Royal Rotary treadle machine in a cabinet. He
describes it as being in excellent condition with lots of attachments
and it has its instruction book. The cabinet is Empire in style. The
machine has gold and colored decorations. He had the original waranty
with the machine, but through a series of blunders (of which he is
completely innocent) the waranty has been lost; it had a 1915 date, and
Joe thinks it was signed by William King.
I told him I would ask the Fanatics if anyone could give him any
information on this machine or point us in the right research direction.
Since he is not a collector, I think he might be willing to sell the
machine if there is interest.
Thanks for any guidance you can give.
Adelaide
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:46:49 -0400
From: Tsuneko1@aol.com
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 6/29/96
Hi everyone, hope you all had a good weekend. It's getting very hot here in
Central CA, we'll be in the l00's this week! Last week I purchased a 99-l3 (
I think), the manual that came with the machine said 99-l3, but the pictures
show a different threading mechanisn and it is also side bobbin loading, not
top as shown in the manual. I know there were several different 99's made.
Can't wait until I get Graham's manual and Bobbi-- so sorry that you didn't
charge us enough! You should let us know if we need to send you more money.
To Mari in N. Cal. Your idea of having a FWF get-together sounds great. Are
there enough of us in CA to get a smaller group together for starters? Maybe
in conjunction with one of the bigger quilt shows? We could load all of our
cars, vans, semis with all of our machines to compare, trade, buy, sell.
What fun that would be. I would really love to see a display of all of
these models everyone is always talking about. I would be willing to help
you Mari. Let me know when you get back from your vacation. Claire Fukuda
Date: 30 Jun 96 17:14:27 EDT
From: Graham Forsdyke <100661.3256@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Contribution
To Jeanette
What you have is a Singer 12 or, as the American Factory calls is a No2. Yours
dates 1900., If you don't get an offer of an original handbook I can do you a
photocopy.
To Mari re Fanatics meeting
Sounds like a great idea. I usually get to the USA once or twice a year (East
coast and West coast normally) and would love to attend a "Featherweight-plus
Convention"
However, when I tried to put together ISMACS meetings in the USA I've found
people reluctant to travel within their own country. I did try to set up a
Vegas
Convention about five years back and had over twenty takers from Europe and
only half a dozen from the USA. Just to contradict that, we regularly get a
score of Americans (plus Australians, Canadians etc) to our bi-annual
Convention
in London.
If you or anyone would seriously like to look into organising such an event you
can count on me for all the help and publicity I can give.
To all re felt washers
Following my saying that the felt washer belongs in the tray stud and about a
dozen other people coming up with the much more reasonable, under-the
cotton-reel explanation, I checked out eight FWs that I have hear awaiting
motor
transplants and six have a felt washer under the tray nut so I guess everyone
was right.
Guess the idea was to stop any chance of the tray vibrating when the machine
was
in use.
To Sandy
I've had good pickings on the 65 North of Little Rock and on the road that runs
alongside the 40 (sorry can't remember the number) east of Fort Smith.
To Barbara
I gotta ask. Who or what is Wally World. In the UK a wally is a pickled form of
miniature squash that you eat with fish and chips. No connection, huh?
To Sue
Congrats on the FW -- sounds great. When they were shipped from Kilbowie they
had six bobbins, an oil can, packet of needles and the following
attachments:binder,edge stitcher, gathering foot (shirrer), hemmer foot,
adjustable hemmer and, occassionally, as part of a promotion, a ruffler and a
darning/embroidery
set.
To Maggie
Don't think that you will find that Singer ever re-painted or re-furbished old
machines. Official policy was to scrap everything taken in part exchange.
Dealers were instruced to destroy old models taken in part exchange and send
Singer the broken off badge to claim a bonus.
To any computer expert on FWF
I use an address book with my e-mail softwear to add e-mail address and name to
my FW posting. This means every mail I send get the same address -- no chance
of
a typo. Yet, lately, about one in three bounces back at me "user unknown". Any
ideas?
Graham Forsdyke London
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 17:19:13 -0500 (CDT)
From: cibolo@connecti.com
Subject: Spartan
Hello - I'm new to the list and have been going back and trying to read thru
all the digests from last September. Love it!
I bought a machine today which has "Spartan" on the center front at eye level.
Stand up and look down and it says "The Singer Mfg. Co., Made in Great
Britain". The motor says it was made in Canada. The stitch length plate
says "192K". The Serial # is E1737076. It is in a tan plastic case that is
about shot. Can I get a replacement case? I think it has to sit in the
bottom part of the case to get the mechanisn up off the table. I cleaned it
a little and it wasn't really very dirty. However, it doesn't sew, and I
guess I need a manual. The motor runs and it has a nice running sound, so I
think the bobbin/tension/motor belt, or something needs adjustment.
Is the Spartan of a comparable value to the FW? I will call Singer tomorrow
to try to determine the mfg. date.
Thank you for any info. I will try learn what I can around here, but I
think the info on this list is probably the most knowledgeable anywhere.
Wilma
cibolo@connecti.com
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:55:31 -0700
From: Bobbie
Subject: Information
Some information, which some of you may find useful and helpful:
Willcox &gibbs Serial Numbers to the year 1876:
_______________________________________
SERIAL NO. YEAR
1 - 10000 1857
10001-2000 1858
20001-30000 1859
30001-40000 1860
40001-50000 1861
50001-60000 1862
60001-70000 1863
70001-80000 1864
80001-90000 1865
90001-100000 1866
100001-115000 1867
115001-130000 1868
130001-145000 1869
145001-160000 1870
160001-190127 1871
190128-223766 1872
223767-239647 1873
239648-253357 1874
253358-267879 1875
267880-279637 1876
EARLY WHITE BRAND SEWING MACHINES
____________________________________
SER.# YEAR
1 - 9000 1876
9000 - 2700 1877
27001 - 45000 1878
45001 - 63000 1879
WHEELER &WILSON MACHINES
________________________________
SER.# YEAR
SER.# YEAR
1 - 200 1851
141100 - 181161 1864
201 - 650 1852 181161
- 220318 1865
651 - 1449 1853 220319
- 270450 1866
1450 - 2205 1854 270451 -
308505 1867
2206 - 3376 1855 308506 -
357856 1868
3377- 5586 1856 357857 -
436722 1869
5587 - 10177 1857 436723 -
519930 1870
10178 - 18155 1858 519931 -
648456 1871
18156 - 39461 1859 648457 -
822545 1872
39462 - 64563 1860 822546 -
941735 1873
64564 - 83119 1861 941736 -
1034563 1874
83120 - 1113212 1862 1034564 -
1318303 1875
111322 - 141099 1863 1138304 -
1247300 1876
As shown in Smithsonian Bulletins and Sincere's History of the Sewing machine
---------=Bobbie=--------------
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:56:05 -0700
From: Bobbie
Subject: Book Quote
I wanted to share a portion of the Sincere's History of the Sewing Machine
with all of you......
Chapter Ten - The New Breed-Independent Sewing Machine Dealer
Page 215
It may be a misnomer to call dealers who started business after
World War II, a new breed. Actually,
most were either White, or Singer alumnus, who decided to keep most of the
profit, instead of pouring
it into a big corporation.
Free established a good market with independent dealers, for a short
time, so did Domestic, and
National, but the single important factor in the rise and success of the
independent sewing machine dealer,
was the imported machine, both zig zag, and straight.
European machines like Pfaff and Necchi zig zag could sew circles
around domestic models. Japanese
machines were much less expensive, which opened a broader market since many
housewives, didn't feel like
spending several hundred dollars for a straight stitch machine. From 1952,
it was no contest, as American
manufacturers fell by the wayside. If Singer hadn't changed, and made a
good zig zag in the late 1950's, they'd
have suffered the same fate.
Many independent dealers couldn't forget old ways, and continued
doing business like they learned at Singer,
or White. Others tried new ideas and marketing concepts.
The most drastic departure from conventional selling, found many
dealers taking the kid gloves off leader
selling. The Federal Trade Commission labeled the new technique, "Bait and
Switch" selling.
A dealer would use a famous brand name, generally Singer, for a
leader machine, and advertise it as a
"Reconditioned Singer Portable", for a price like $39.95, right after the
war, down as low as $9.95 during the final
days. The build-up was fantastic. "Machine darns, mends, sews all
directions, full set of attachments, portable
case, and guaranteed for five full years."
It wasn't difficult getting leads, especially when Singer portable
machines were selling for $159.95, and White 77 portables for $165.
Newspaper advertising was the most widely used media. Touch up, by
a good ad man, made the machine
look like new. Both display and classified advertising were used.
Eventually, radio became popular, with a
giveaway like a free pair of pinking shears to the first 25 ladies calling,
or a free turkey during the holidays. One
firm gave a free, used television set with a zig zag leader, advertised at
$49.95. The machine alone cost the dealer
$45.
Television was never a popular media. By the time it was big enough
to be a factor, the FTC had clamped down on switch operators.
The most popular leader was the Singer 15-22 head, because it could
be advertised as a round bobbin machine.
The ad never mentioned Singer quit making the 15-22 in 1890. If a salesman
sold a leader machine, he was
looking for another job, since most leader machines were "nailed down", or
couldn't be sold. All moving parts were
loosened, causing the machine to rattle loudly. The machine was never made
for electrical operation and the foot
control had just one speed, wide open. When the salesman touched the
control, he grabbed the machine to
keep it from jumping off the table. When he tried to remove the bobbin, it
was such a difficult chore, he gave up,
and his prospect was glad. The machine couldn't sew more than four or five
stitches, until the thread broke.
After he'd effectively unsold the leader, the salesman made a quick trip to
his car for a new machine, which he
quickly set p and demonstrated. The new machine performed beautifully.
When the demonstration was over,
he'd made a doll bonnet, using all the attachments
[Note: Figure 194 shows photo of Singer Machine 15-22, circa 1890
-which is a fiddle base machine]
The new machine, generally Japanese, had a pre-printed price of from
$199.95 to $299.95, for a straight
stitch machine. His pitch varied, but someway he managed to convey a
savings of $100. If a trade was
involved, the discount dropped to $50, plus $50 for the old machine, leaving
a balance of $99.95, to $199.95 for the straight stitch portable. However,
most salesmen tried to ge more because in addition to commission on low
dollar price, set by the dealer, he received a spiff, generally a hefty 50%,
for everything he could get over the set
amount. For example, if low dollar on a straight stitch portable was
$149.50, commission on that figure to the
salesman was probably 30%, or $45. If he sold the same machine for $199.95,
the salesman received 50% of the
overage, or a total commission of $70. It doesn't take much imagination to
see which figure the salesman tried
to get.
If leads were good, a good switchman could sell four or five units a
day. The bait was hard to resist and
thousands of thrifty housewives fell for the routine. A Singer portable for
$39.95 was hard to turn down, but after
seeing it, the housewife stepped herself up to the better machine, which was
generally overpriced. However, cost
is relative, if the machine performs properly.
Leader selling, using a rebuilt Singer, was used before the war by
several companies, including Spiegel,
and Hale Brothers Department store chain. Both companies did sell the
advertised machine at the advertised price,
if they couldn't step the customer up to the better machine.
AT the same time bait and switch operators were selling straight
stitch machines for $99.95 to $199.95 plus,
mail order houses and other department store operators were selling the same
machine, bought from the same
wholesaler for $49.95, to $79.95, and making a profit.
one furniture store in Phoenix sold thousands of "Empire" sewing
machines for $49.95, in a portable, while
switch operators were selling the machine for four times that amount, and
the furniture store ran huge weekly
ads in the Phoenix newspapers.
In the 1950's, when zig zag switching was in vogue, a single needle
position zig zag machine was
advertised for $79.95. The price was gradually lowered as the advertised
price failed to pull leads, until it reached
a price of $39.95, or eight dollars less than it cost the dealer. If a
salesman sold the advertised leader, he had to
but one to replace it. Another example of a "Nailed Down" leader. Wards
and Sears both advertise a similar
machine now, in 1969, and the object is still , however, either firm will
sell and deliver an advertised model.
Zig Zag step-up was harder, mostly because more money was involved
at the outset. The step was from $79.95, to either a Japanese-made machine
ranging from $199.95, to $349.95, or a first-class European machine like
Pfaff, Viking or Elna, from $329.95, to $439.95. In either case, a lot more
money than the advertised machine . The
transaction was more legitimate because, regardless of which machine the
housewife bought, she was getting her
moneys [sic] worth.
Trade practices were also more legitimate. Most prospects for a zig
zag machine already had a straight stitch, many quite new, so they were more
aware of the value. Salesmen involved in the zig zag switch were generally
high caliber salesmen, who liked making big commissions, without the added
work of canvassing for leads.
Switch men abounded everywhere in the country, but a really good one
was hard to find. Ike Gill, from Wichita Falls, Texas, was one of the best.
He didn't know one end of a sewing machine from another, but he could sell.
His method of operation was simple. He carried the leader machine into the
house and set it up for demonstration on the kitchen table. The machine was
adjusted to vibrate at high speed, and since the kitchen table is generally
on tile, or a hard floor, the effect was startling.
Gill was a charmer. From the moment he entered the front door, the
sweet talk started flowing. If there were little girls in the home, he'd
play with them, and kid with the older ones, but never with little boys. He
made easy banter with the housewife in a smooth Texas accent, and if she
wasn't eating out of his hand, which was rare, he made a quick
demonstration. If he didn't make a quick close, he moved on to the next lead.
When he was on, it was a beautiful show. If his prospect asked a
technical question, he always answered,
"It's in the book sweety, the people that wrote this book know a lot more
about machines and sewing than I do.
You just sit your li'l old self down after I leave, and you'll learn it
all." His favorite gimmick was the "Lay-Away" and he used the code name
"Cardwell". When he had a bird-dog with him, and wanted the machine he was
stepping up to, he'd say "bring in the Cardwell machine, partner." The
assistant would go to the car and bring in a new zig zag automatic. His
pitch was very simple, "The man, Mister Cardwell, bought the machine for his
wife as a birthday gift, and had it placed in lay-away. Just before the
date, Cardwells [sic] wife left him for another man, so Cardwell didn't want
the machine because it reminded him of this wife." Gill added "The company
says I can sell it for exactly what's owed, but they want it sold, and I'm
in hot water over it." A fake sales slip was attached to the carton,
showing one hundred dollars had been paid. The balance was $349.95, for a
Japanese-made zig zag automatic. Gill's close as the clincher, "You're such
a nice lady, I'll let it go for the exact balance due."
The approach was simple, and it sold a lot of sewing machines. But
he had one more ace-in-the-hole if
she hesitated. And as he talked with the prospect, he'd accidently [sic]
drop a big stack of cards then pick them up so the lady could see how many
more housewives might not pass such a bargain. She knew she had to buy
then, or miss the chance to save a hundred dollars. Invariably, she'd buy.
Once in a while [sic] his pitch backfired. He sold a machine to a
dairy farmer, using the Cardwell machine pitch.
Three weeks later the man was back, carrying the machine. "Mista Gill," the
man said, "this sho' is a hard luck
machine, cause my wife done left me too."
Gill didn't break stride, "Sorry about that, old buddy. Guess
you'll have to take up sewing", as he helped
the unlucky buyer carry the machine back to the hapless customers [sic] car.
Quoted from: Sincere's History of The Sewing Machine
By: William Ewers &H.W. Baylor with H.H. Kenaga
Published by Sincere Press - March, 1970
Just another note: I've been in contact with Mr. Ewers, and he is a wealth
of information. As my conversations
and visits with him transpire, I'll keep ya'll informed.
------------=Bobbie=------------------
From: renecobb@lc.gulfnet.com (Renee Cobb)
Subject: beige featherweight
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:21:41 -0400
I am writing for a friend who purchased a beige featherweight at a garage
sale. She wanted to know more about it so she called the 800 number at
Singer but they weren't much help. She believes that it was made in Canada
because of a plate on the motor saying made in Canada. Singer couldn't tell
her what year from the serial number. She paid under $100 for it. Her
questions are 1) was that a good price for the FW 2)does anyone know
anything more about this type of FW? Please e-mail me with any info which
will gladly be appreciated at renecobb@lc.gulfnet.com.
Thanks
Renee
From: Larry Gordineer
Subject: info on a 201
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 23:21:33 -0400
I need some advice. I went to a garage sale today and found a 201 ( at =
least I assume it's a 201, in the front it had a little plaque with a =
201 on it - that is what that means, isn't it?) Anyhow, we plugged it =
in and it seem to run fine. Very smoothly, in fact. I took their name =
and number and said I would think about it. I didn't check on the =
bobbin case and would if I decide I want it, but it seemed to be in =
really good shape. It had no attachments or manual, so I know very =
little about it. Is it just a straight stitch? Can I use it to machine =
quilt? If so, what attachments would I need? ( If I had only paid =
better attention when you all were talking about these machines in the =
past! ) The price was right - $25, but I was so busy trying to decide =
where I would put it, I just couldn't commit. I suppose my kids could =
use it to sew since I won't let them touch my 'nina.
Give me your thoughts! Thanks for your help - I really enjoy this group =
and to Sue - a thousand blessings for all the enjoyment you bring to =
us.
=
Cindy - in HUMID upstate NY=09
"Obstacles are what you see when you take your eyes off your goal."
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:11:28 -0400
From: Larry Doyle
Subject: FW for sale
Hi Folks,I have a feather weight for sale if you all are interested.This
is clean and on very good condition.There are few scratches on any of the
paint the front plate is of the scroll design not striped.The case is in
good condition,abd both latches work.There are no keys no attachments and no
manual.The price is $350.00 plus S+H Give me a ring if your interested
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 18:43:35 -0600
From: mikem@citation.com (Mike Mirkovich)
Subject: Featherweight Fanatics Newsletter
Looking for some help for my friend, Pat, who just showed me the cutest
little machine--a pinking machine--very small and black with big gold
letters on the side that say SINGER. To work it you turn a crank much like
a pencil sharpener, and it still works fine, pinking the edges of fabric.
It is still in the original box that says "Singer Hand Operated Ball
Bearing Pinking Machine No. 121379. The top of the label says Form F (or
P--difficult to read) 1888. Does anyone know anything about it or where we
might get some info on it--thanks!! Connie M.
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 16:58:34 -0600
From: MomofWeedy
Subject: Hand crank
I found an absolutely beautiful hand crank machine, marked 'T Eaton Co.' on
the needle plate. I could not find any numbers on the machine, but it was
made in the U.S. (which I thought was unusual because T. Eaton is a Canadian
company). It had a mechanism like a 127 (long bobbin case), but the case
was not Siamco. It looked like ...redge stamped into the bobbin case and
the only part worn on the outside of the machine was the name on the arm.
It looked like a stylized 'B' remained.
Does anyone know anything about this machine or have something similar. I
would like to offer the woman a fair price, but have no idea what that would
be except from a post several days ago that hand cranks should sell in the
range of $70 to 150 (U.S.). I have in my mind $200 to $250 Cdn, but she may
not sell it for this price because she likes it as decoration in her living
room. (She doesn't sew.)
Any info would be helpful.
She also had a beautiful 127-type machine in a bentwood case, but it was
missing the knee bar -- no wear on the green/red/gold design and like-new
case. I didn't buy it at $100 Cdn, but if DH can copy the knee bar from my
99-13?, I may make a deal for both machines. Are all the knee bar parts
from 1916 to 1924 about the same?
I did buy a very dirty 127 with worn Egyptian designs, no case, but most of
an original manual and lots of attachments for $30 Cdn and now I have a
better idea of what a 127 is all about! If I can find a treadle case, it
may be happier back as a treadle.
Kathy in Calgary
reyden@cadvision.com
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 21:39:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lydia Pratt
Subject: Stems and pieces
To Sue: Even with its problems I'd consider a $40 FW a real find. As far
as the foot goes, you should be able to use any feet from a modern Singer
short-shank machine until you can ferrit out your own vintage attachment
set (always a good excuse to visit thrift shops, tag sales, etc.).
For the replacement bobbin case holder, you can get in touch with any of
these folks:
Stepping Stones Quilts
Chris Vagtborg
P.O. Box 21811
St. Simons Island, GA 31522
912-638-7128
71155.1072@CompuServe.com
A Stitch Back in Time
3815 50th Street, #41
Lubbock, TX 79413-3807
806-749-0966
1-800-352-1174
penneyg@nts-online.net
Tiffin Sewing Machine
Mike Hayes
800-773-9556
419-447-3366
136 S. Washington Street
Tiffin, OH 44883
Although replacing a bobbin case holder is not cheap, it's certainly
do-able and your original price makes it very worthwhile.
To Jeanette: Your description of the tension mechanism on the back of the
faceplate suggest some form of Model 15 and the serial number places the
machine at 1921-1923. But if you call the Singer number listed at the end
of the Digest and give them the serial #, they will give you a model # and
birth date for the machine.
To Courtney: Hi and a big Welcome Back! Nice to hear that you are on the
mend and reading the posts again. Please be patient with yourself while
you heal, and remember if you start to feel really really tired your body
is trying to tell you something -- listen to it! Take care and hang in there!
To Bobbi: You have undertaken such a tremendous task for a bunch of folks
you've never even met. Please don't be so upset about the postage
problem! I'm thankful we managed to get Graham's manual into the country,
and if I don't get my copy for another week or so I'll STILL be thrilled.
You've earned the gratitude of us "masses" by what you've done, so don't
get so down on yourself because some parts of the U.S. Postal Service
don't seem to know what they're doing. Smile, we all love you!
Question: can someone explain (preferable in plain English) exactly what
constitues a "bigger" motor? I know this refers to electrical output of
some type, and NOT the physical dimensions of the motor. Since I still
can't keep the watts/volt/amps thing straight, can someone provide in
simple terms what the numbers normally given on the outside of a motor mean??
Question #2: I know how/where to lube the motor on the FW (courtesy of the
instruction book), but should I be concerned about doing this on the motor
of my Spartan and if so, where? Also, my "workhorse" machine (who it
turns out does NOT especially like to machine quilt, even with a walking
foot) has a "standard" motor. Any sort of lube-ing I should be doing for
that, or does that one have to go in to a professional?
Lydia in central Ohio, who is so tired of hot and muggy that she ALMOST
wishes the cold rainy weather would come back.
_ _
Lydia Pratt |_|X|_|
Columbus, Ohio |X|*|X|
lspratt@freenet.columbus.oh.us |_|X|_|
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 20:23:09 -0600
From: Ken Behler
Subject: Portable Bell
Greetings, Just saw a very interesting portable machine in a antique
store. It was a green Bell portable sewing machine. It was so small
and cute, it looked like a toy. I came in a briefcase which included
footpedal, attachments(a whole bunch), needles,
accessories(key,screwdriver,&?), and what looked like some kind of table
base and clamp?. When the case is all closed up it measures about
14"x8"x3". The tag on it said, 1950s portable. The price was $149. Does
anyone know anything about this machine? I tried it out and it does sew.
The bobbins are round, top load and only about 1/2" in diameter. It was
so cute, it was hard to leave it, but I decided to keep my findings to
Singers. Is anyone interested in it? The usual disclaimers apply here.
Also, On an earlier posting I asked about an unusual feed dog cover I
had found. It was Singer part #32622. Can anyone help me figure out how
to use this? I'm still baffled. TIA, Jacque in HOT Boise, Idaho where
we are winding down the Boise River Festival.
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 22:41:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joan E. Smith"
Subject: ISMACS Book
Well Bobbie, I don't know what you think you did wrong on postage, but I
received mine on Sat 6/29 -- two days after you mailed it, and I live in
Hawaii! Anyway, it's really a neat reference and I appreciate your
efforts and Graham's for sharing it.
Joan
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 1996 23:20:20 -0400
From: ManyPigs@aol.com
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 6/29/96
To the Quilting Store on St. SImons Island......I was supposed to send you
money for a needle case. The paper with your address (and alot more
important info.) has disappeared and NO_ONE knows what happened to it.
Please E-mail me with your address again. Sorry for the problem.
From Marci in Florida where it was actually very pleasant
today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date: Tue, 2 Jul 96 08:49:15 -0500
From: Featherweight Fanatics
Subject: FW Fanatics 7/1/96
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From: "Lois Whelan"
Subject: New treasures
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 22:45:21 -0400
I am now the proud owner of 2 new machines:
l. 99K, a 7-8 on GF scale, completely serviced, gold in excellent
condition, no wear, with box of attachments and feet. Box is worn.
#EL9075l6. Cost - $50.
2. 30l , 7-8 on GF scale, completely service. Gold in excellent shape,
machine shines like new, box of attachments and feet.
Can't find
the ID number - Cost $45. It is black with a fold away handle on
the top.
I brought my hand crank machine to a serviceman's home. Remembering all
the stories on FWF about the back rooms and treasures, I got up enough
nerve to as the inevitable question, "Do you have any machines for sale?"
Jim (his real name) the serviceman, said to wait a minute he thought he
had some in the basement. I almost fell off the chair. When he came back
upstairs carrying these two beauties I did fall off the chair. I was
dumbfounded.
Yesterday I went to a secondhand store and found a White treadle (needs
alot of work) and a Singer AG in a mission style oak cabinet. They were
asking $40. for each machine.
The moral to the story is these collectibles are out there. Today I found
but didn't buy a White treadle(bad condition) close to 100 yrs. old, a
Singer treadle, a Wilcox (I believe), an Elna, a Wanamaker Special (
never heard of this one), another Singer treadle, and a Singer
Slant-o-matic. All in cabinets except for the Wanamaker Special.
Unfortunately, no FW. Had a fun day. Lois Whelan
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 20:07:23 +1000 (EST)
From: Jake Jacobs
Subject: Elias Howe machine
Can anyone please give me any information on Elia Howe machines please , my
sister has a treadle in great condition and I was wondering where in the
states they were manufactured and when they went out of business. My sister
paid $188 ( including tax ) I thought this was good price it still has the
original cover , medallion , works perfectly two draws and an extention,
side table spring loaded.What does anyone else thoink ????? Ann-Maree in
cold wet Canberra
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 08:40:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mary McCreadie
Subject: Minnesota A treadle--anyone know of this?
Emboldened by the stories on this list, I asked an antique shop owner
what kind of treadle machine was that for $120? She had no idea, so we
opened it up and found--a Minnesota A!
I'm baffled. Anyone have any further facts for me? The belt on it looked
brand new, and the oak cabinet was in OK shape, tho one of the drawers
had a piece of the wood trim/handle broken off.
Looking forward to illumination, I remain very truly curious,
Mary McCreadie
m-mccreadie@nwu.edu
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 09:56:06 -0500
From: jfisher@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu (Julie Fisher)
Subject: Several Stupid Questions
I just joined the list this week, so please take pity on me in my ignorance.
I have several stupid questions for all of you.
Stupid Question #1: I see that some of the Singer Featherweights were made
in the U.K. Does this mean that those machines work with U.K. voltage? I
ask because we are making a trip to England/Wales in a couple of weeks, and
I'd like to know whether a machine I might discover there would work in the
U.S. without modification. We like to poke around in used bookstores,
antique shops, and thrift shops and, well, you never know what you might find!
Stupid Question #2: Okay, now that you're all ROTFL, here's #2. If I
should find a FW, what do I look for? If the machine sews okay, is it
reasonable to assume that it's in good condition? I'd like to use the
machine, not just have it as a collectable. I'd like to take it to classes
and let my daughter sew on it.
Stupid Question #3: I've noticed a lot of talk about attachments. What
attachments were originally sold with this machine besides a buttonholer?
Stupid Question #4: This is probably the stupidist . . . . If the FW can
only do a straight stitch, how in the world does it make a buttonhole? I've
never seen a machine make a buttonhole using anything other than a zigzag
stitch.
I'm really looking forward to joining the ranks of the Featherweighted
someday. If I can ever find one of these machines (and I'd like to find one
under $200-$250), I'm going to make myself a badge that says, "Proud Owner
of a Singer Featherweight--If you have to ask, just forget it!"
I'd appreciate any help you can give me.
Julie
Oxford, MS
jfisher@olemiss.edu
Date: 1 Jul 1996 14:38:46 +0000
From: "Lehrhoff Mary MSM SUPH US" .
As to the russians, I think Anastasia took her SM with her when she
deployed...
To Maggie:
Two things: 1, I wish I could do what you're doing...I'll have to sooner or
later, when I move to Florida (1998-9), 2, I wish I could buy your
stuff.....am I crazy or what?
To Larry Doyle:
Re: 503 Manual
I might have one, but am not sure....will try to remember to check when I
get home...if you could send a message to McLehr@AOL.com as a reminder, it
would help...I have a few odd manuals...if you could find out what other
machines are like it, maybe one of those that I have would do, if I don't
actually have the 503...unless someother FW can provide you with the 503...
To Courvo@aol.com
Re: Recovery
It sounds like you were very lucky, inspite of your injuries...good luck
with convalesence...I think if you get yourself out of the house to a place
wherein you might purchase/look at/caress some SMs, it will get your vital
juices flowing again!
To DickDryer - Mari
I love your idea, and it would be so nice to have in.........Cape May. They
have the most beautifully restored Victorians, B&B's, (and the regular type
of accomodations) the beach, bike riding, great restaurants....this is
really the kind of place to appeal to FWFs, I would think.....it certainly
does to me....but anyplace with good transportation would be
wonderful.......how many FWFs are there, anyway? If I had my heart's true
desire, a Beautiful Gigantic Victorian, I would host a meeting, but alas, my
house is too small and chock full of SMs and sewing paraphenalia.......and
stuff, stuff, and more stuff.
General:
Mom and I were lucky enough to FINALLY get a 301a on Saturday...the funny
thing is, I think it was in the store where I bought it last year. I went
to the movies and saw a Singer store, so went inside to browse around. Not
seeing anything of note (I thought), I left. I know now to ask at each and
every Singer store, since they all have stashes in the back, downstairs,
upstairs, SOMEWHERE.....anyway, I could swear I remember this 301 in the
back of mind as I thought back over that visit...isn't that funny? I'm
going to call the guy and ask him..it didn't have a real case, tho...does
anyone know of one for sale, to fit the 301a? The little darling, Sally, is
a real dynamo....I can't get her away from mom....when I wasn't looking, she
snuk her from the kitchen into her room....and she's been sewing up a
storm...I went over her with a fine-tooth comb and mechanically couldn't
imagine a finer machine...appearances wise, a minor little nick or so...it
was her very ugly appearance that made me overlook her in the first place,
so now it's like a reverse sort of appeal....she doesn't look ugly anymore,
but beautiful. I think it's strange how you can turn around so completely
in a matter of astheics....I guess it's because of the Beauty of Its
Performance, it becomes beautiful to you.....oh well. Also, I got a Singer
24, born 9/29/09...needs cleaned up, but looks very nice...considering it's
covered with dust &grime. It needs to be hooked up to a shuttle to work,
tho...that might take some doing...I do like to have them working if at all
possible.....bye for now...work calls me VERY LOUDLY!!!
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 11:39:54 -0500
From: jfisher@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu (Julie Fisher)
Subject: HRH, First Day of THE Search
Graham,
I think that Princess Di and the Duchess of York have all of those machines
safely locked away in case the cash flow from Buckingham is cut off
suddenly! Maybe you could try them . . .
All,
Well, my first day in search of the small, docile, but elusive Featherweight
was a loss. I crept through the jungles of 3 local antique (and junk) shops
and one thrift shop in hopes of felling one of the little devils but do not
have even one sighting to report. Perhaps the voice of Small Child (whom I
was dragging through the dust with me) calling, "Momma, can we go home now?"
warned any FWs within range that I was on their trail. I saw 3 treadles and
3 handcranks, but I have enough trouble sewing a straight seam with both
hands on the fabric. I suggested that hubster could lose some weight by
furnishing the power for the crank. My suggestion was met with, "Now, what
do you want with an antique sewing machine?" Reply, "The same thing you
wanted with every issue of *Ellery Queen* back to the Stone Age." I also
saw an electric Royal, thought it might do, but changed my mind upon trying
(without success) to lift it.
Well, there's always next weekend.
jfisher@olemiss.edu
Date: 01 Jul 96 13:54:57 EDT
From: Graham Forsdyke <100661.3256@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Contribution
To Maggie re first patented Singer
These machines are not as rare as some of the later models and $13,500 sounds a
little too much. I do know of some folk in PA who bought one from "a couple of
States away" -- (which would make NY possible) about three years back but they
paid considerably less than that.
On reflection, I guess the price would be right if the machine had its original
packing case which doubled as a treadle but I only know of half a dozen of
these. You might try to tactfully ask him which State it went to. I'm
intrigued.
To Dave re Domestic
Can provide you with a photo copy pages of a short piece I wrote last year on
history of Domestic company if you would e-mail me your snail address.
No charge -- just don't ask me what it or anything else is worth.
To Adelaide re Royal
Lotsa companies produced Royal branded machines during the first quarter if
this
century. Chances are that your friend's was produced by the Free Company out of
Rockford, Ill
To Bobbie re Singer 15 in Sincere book
This is even more interesting as the machine has been customiseed to provide a
fiddle base. Originally it was rectangular. May have been done to "make it look
different" or to disguise a chipped-off casting.
To Connie M re Singer pinking mc
The self-contained Singer pinking mc was made at Elizabethport NJ. Very well
made and just about all those that turn up work well. Same style as the Singer
20 chain-stitch toy (the first, cast-iron model) Collected as a sewing-machine
go-with.
Date: 01 Jul 96 14:31:08 EDT
From: Chris Vagtborg <71155.1072@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: post
Hi All...
For Sue Orcutt. The broken piece in the bobbin case holder is called the Hook
GIB. We have these in stock as well as the screw. Note that there are two
sizes of GIB screws. If the remains of the Hook GIB is still in the BC
holder, maybe it would be better if you sent it to me to repair. Email me and
we'll discuss the details...
For Bobbie K... Got my copy of the manual today! Even though you mailed it
Thursday (27th) via 4th class (book rate), I still got it pretty quick!
Thanks...
For Wilma Cibolo... We have the Service Manual (copy) for the Spartan (a
member of the 66/99 family of machines) available as well as parts - email me
for details.
For Renee Cobb... Are you sure your friend has a Featherweight and not a 301?
Singer knows where the FWs were built, but didn't keep records on the 301s.
For Lydia Pratt... Question numero uno: Motors. The typical FW motor is rated
at 110-120 Volts, 0.4 Amperes, 25 to 75 cycles (Hertz) or DC. Now, let's use
your garden hose as an analogy for electricity... Think of electrons as
water, volts as your local water pressure and amperes as the diameter of your
hose. For a given amount of pressure (voltage) the hose (wire) can deliver a
varying amount of water (electrons) to the sprinkler (motor). A big sprinkler
can dissipate more water than a small one. A bigger motor (higher amperage)
can deliver more power than a smaller one. Power is a rated in Watts. Watts
is the product of Volts times Amps. More Amps, more Watts, more power. And,
usually, more Amps means a physically larger motor. My 66-6 has a 0.6 Amp
motor and it is larger... Now for the biggie! A 110 Volt motor rated at 0.4
Amps produces the same amount of power as a 220 Volt motor rated at 0.2 Amps!
The lower voltage (pressure) motor has larger "hose". The higher voltage
(pressure) motor has a smaller "hose" - but both deliver the same amount of
water! I hope you're not thoroughly confused...
Question numero dos: Your Spartan motor is not "field" lubricatable. You'll
have to disassemble it to lube it. Remove the pulley on the drive shaft.
Remove the two nuts and push out the long skinny bolts. The end caps come off
the motor housing and the armature will drop into your lap. Do not let it
fall on the floor! And don't lose any washers and *DO* note how they came off
the motor shaft as you deftly caught the armature 1 inch above your kitchen
floor. Examination of the motor shaft bushings in the end caps will reveal
felt "wicks" surrounding the bushing. A drop or two of good 'ol Singer SM oil
into the felts will suit the motor just fine. Don't over-oil as you don't
want to get oil onto the brushes. Reassemble in reverse order.
For Jacque in Boise... Is the feed dog cover black and triangular? If so, it
has a nipple that fits into the hole just to the right of the needle, and
attaches to the bed into to one of the two threaded holes with a flat-head
screw. It's for free hand machine quilting.
From: tomczak
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:04:13 -0700
Has anyone every heard of or know about Singer Spartan. It was made in Canada.
Small black...does it have a case or book. thanks.
Karen
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:15:50 -0400
From: lanza@marie.mit.edu (Dick Lanza)
Subject: Old Elnas
To the people who were discussing old Elnas:
The "C" shaped green Elna is the Elna #1, a classic in design &quaity.
Before 1938 Tavaro, the parent company of Elna, was an armaments maker.
One of their biggest customers was Germany. However, when Germany
began invading her neighbors, Tavaro was compelled to stop selling to
Germany to preserve Swiss neutrality. So they began making sewing
machines. My theory is that they had lots of olive green paint left
over from ammo boxes, so they painted the sewing machines that color.
The #1 is featherweight in size, but not weight. But it is a free-
arm machine. The case cleverly opens up into a table for flat-bed
operation. Everything about the machine is well-designed and very
sturdily made. Frankly (heresy) I like it better than my little
featherweight.
Elna made a cam machine starting in the 1950's, called the Super,
I think. The early models were the same army green as the #1, with
the same ammo-box case as the #1. Both of these had a folding-rod
knee control. Incidently, these cams are the same as on the later
mechanical Elnas, like SU, Carina, etc.
Mary Lehrhoff: Please let us know about this dealer you mentioned
that has these old machines. He sounds like a resource for the
old machine lovers. P.S. the return email address on the header
of your message doesn't seem to be valid.
Sylvia Lanza
lanza@marie.mit.edu
From: "Lois Whelan"
Subject: New Finds
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:17:11 -0400
I now have 3 new machines.
l. 30l - Clean, some scratches scroll work in tact and beautiful.
black with fold away handle on top. I think this one was in a
cabinet as it has the snap on plate on the bottom. Works beautifully.
Box of attachments, light in front. $45.00
2. 99K, EL9075l6, same condition as 30l, serviced and scroll work
in beautiful condition, just hums along. Box of attachments, and
book for Model 185k3 came with this machine. Carrying case is
worn but in tact. $50.
3. Singer Touch-o-matic Very good condition in a walnut cabinet.
Came with attachments, box of cams and 3 books. $25
I can't find the ID numbers for the 30l or slant-o-matic. I've had both
machines apart so I have really looked. Maybe Singer stopped putting the
little plate number on the "newer" machines??
Last week I took my hand crank to a sewing machine repairman who works out
of his home.After being there awhile I decided to ask the BIG question
I've learned about on FWF, "Do you have any sms for sale?" The man's name
is JIM by the way. He thought for a few moments then said he might have
a couple in his basement. He came back upstairs with the 30l and 99k I
was shocked and speechless. He also had a newer Singer in a cabinet and
an empty cabinet which the 30l didn't fit into. He thinks he might have
more in the bowels of his basement. I didn't want to seem tooooo eager
and told him I could wait until I pick up the hand crank.
In the past couple of days in addition to the above machines I have found
5 treadles in poor condition, a Singer AG in a mission oak style cabinet
and a Wanamaker Special.
Anyone heard of that?? Really old and rusted.
No FWs but I am thrilled with my new purchases. Lois Whelan
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 17:36:23 -0400
From: Kilda@aol.com
Subject: Manual
Bobbie,
It arrived today. I can't thank you enough for all the work you put in on
this. Thanks to to Graham whose generosity has made this possible. Believe
me, I will take extremely good care of my copy.
Thank you again
Flo Jolly
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:05:25 -0700
From: The Dougherty Family
Subject: "New" machine
WOW! I just came home from a day of shopping where the first stop was an
antique shop. In one of the booths, I looked down and found a small green
Singer. I was so excited, then I picked it up--ugh! It weighs a ton! But
it came home with me anyway. Maybe someone can tell me something about it.
It's a 185K, with the Singer catalog number of RFJ8-8, made in Canada. It
came with attachments, including a TINY rolled hem foot, zipper foot, what
looks like a bias tape attachment foot, and somethiong tortuous looking that
I can't identify. The bobbins look about the same as the ones for the 201 I
used to have.
I also bought a manual for a Singer 401 Slant-O-Matic. I couldn't remember
if this was one that someone needed--if so, please e-mail me and I'll send
it to you--cheap!
Teri Dougherty e-mail: dttes@indy.net
The Back Door--Your Creativity Source
23 years and going strong!
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 19:18:38 -0400
From: "Bette S. Feinstein"
Subject: Another 15 minutes
In the June 10 issue of Newsweek, pg 86, I was mentioned as a bookseller
selling in Cyberspace. I can see this group has it all sewn up.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Bette S. Feinstein of Hard-to-Find Needlework Books
96 Roundwood Road, Newton, MA 02164
617-969-0942 tel/fax
Email: hardtofind@needleworkbooks.com
http://www.needleworkbooks.com
From: "Lois Whelan"
Subject: 30l ID #
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:58:02 -0400
Could and would someone please tell me where to find the ID number on a
black 30l. I have gone over this little beauty from top to bottom and I
can't find the number. It's a new find and I'd like to call Singer.
I stopped into a SM repair shop to ask this question. The guru told me
the "30l" plate was the ID number (not).
Also, same shop was selling the faux FW machines. I think they're called
"NIMI". I must admit I could have been fooled if I didn't see the logo.
The company copied just about everything from the FW with the exception of
the bobbin. I even tried it out and it works just fine. They are selling
for $250.
Has anyone seen these machines? I would be interested in your opinions.
The repairman told me not to spend money on a "used" Singer when I could
have a brand new machine for less (not, again).
Thank you friends for all your help. You've made a Trash Picker out of
me. Lois Whelan
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:34:54 -0400
From: JSmith1860@aol.com
Subject: Re: Graham's Manual
I recieved the manual in the mail from Bobbie today. I want to thank both
Graham and Bobbie for making it possible for so many of us to have it. It
will be an invaluable resource. Now when I'm out hunting I'll know what I'm
looking for and what I've found. Thanks again to both of you. Jean
From: Barbara Lee Gates
Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 6/30/96
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 20:39:11 -0500
To Graham--
I gotta ask. Who or what is Wally World. In the UK a wally is a pickled =
form of miniature squash that you eat with fish and chips. No =
connection, huh?
There I go again, Assuming that everyone knows what I am talking about!!
"Wally World" is one of the nicknames for the ubiquitous WalMart store. =
In towns like mine, they have come in and run everything else out. If =
you can't get it there, you don't find it -- without a 50-60 mile drive. =
The term "wally world" originally (as far as I know) came from one of =
the crazy Chevy Chase movies -- National Lampoon's Family Vacation or =
some such, when they were all driving out to Wally World. Kinda a take =
off on Disney Land/World.
BTW, received my copy of the manual in short order -- Friday or Saturday =
I think, so Bobbie need not worry about the postal slipup. Very helpful =
to now know what a 99 looks like. If ever any one wants to know about =
one of the better modern day "automatic" Singer's looks like --- the =
920 Futura II, let me know. I wish I had left well enough alone and not =
bought the 6268; and am glad I kept the 920. It has a lot of "heart". =
Althought I did personalize a pillowcase for my grandson with the 6268 =
this weekend and it performed like a champ. Why doesn't it work that =
way for straight stitch?
Barbara in Deep East Texas.
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 22:02:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Juanita Bagnall
Subject: ISMACS book
I got my book today! Thanks, Bobbie, for all your work copying and mailing
it!
Nita in FL where it has been hot and muggy lately
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 23:25:39 -0400
From: Larry Doyle
Subject: "Case in a pinch"
Hi Folks,I made the nicest discovery tonight.While visiting at a friends
home i noticed on her livingroom floor a small plastic case.I first thought
it was a tool box,However it was a "Rubbermaid" file case.This is a perfect
size for a FW.On the top there is a clear plastis storage compartment for
pins scissors ect.and a flip up handle.This case is sturdy and light
weight.The machine fits inside like a glove.Best of all the cost is about
$10.00,and it comes in several colors. Best to all,
Larry
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Subject: FW Fanatics 7/2/96
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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:10:42 -0700
From: gqminldy@bdt.com (Gretchen McKinsey-Clarke)
Subject: Re: FwF Convention &email
To Mari,
I'm in Benicia, not that far from Napa, and I think a get together is a
*great* idea! My machines are all over my house and I don't often get to
share them with anyone who cares. A little convention and the opportunity
to sell and swap would be lovely too. Count me in for support and anything
I can do. If we could get my Mom to show off even *some* of her wonderful
collection, that would just be really nice! And if we could get Graham and
Maggie to be there too... bliss!
To Graham re. email prob.
I'm no expert but I find that when certain nationwide servers are having
problems, an awful lot of people are affected. My email address is bdt
which is a local server, but bdt is owned by a much larger server called
earthlink. So when earthlink has problems all the little server's customers
suffer. And my server has been having problems for several months. So keep
trying to send that mail if you can and it should get through eventually.
Crossed fingers never hurt either!
To Bobbie Kopf,
I got my copy of Graham's Singer book today. Thank you so much for taking
this on and to Graham for sharing. Big virtual hugs for both of you!
Gretchen in HOT Benicia, CA
"Life is a search for the peace you felt in your Mother's womb."
Lwoxanna Troy - DS9
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 02:16:59 -0400
From: SewJude@aol.com
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 6/27/96
I had a great and fun filled day today! I discovered that one of my cousins
(that I had never laid eyes on in my life) is an "old Singer Sewing Machine
guy" !!! He was in town to help Tacony Corporation celebrate their 50th
anniversary. Tacony is Baby Lock, and a lot of other things. Anyway I spent
a fun filled afternoon in a hotel room learning how to adjust, clean, oil,
grease, retime, etc. my FW and 66, demos included ; )
Cousin Al says that the best Singer machine is the 500. It was only made for
2 years. Now don't get him wrong, he has a great appreciation for the FWs
that we all love. His 17 year old Granddaughter is the proud owner of a
1934? (any way the first year they were made) FW. He also says to be on the
look out for a "National 2 Spooler." He thinks that they were made in the
30's. He use to work on one for a lady in TX. She would sit beside him the
whole time he was working on it, and no one else was allowed in the shop ; )
They look like a "normal" machine but rather than using a bobbin, they use a
second spool of thread on the bottom. I have friend that always complains
that he doesn't understand why all sewing machines don't take a spool of
thread on the bottom. As he says, "You would think that someone would notice
that you need the same amount of thread on both sides of your fabric."
For those who don't "speak American" a SPOOL is the thing you buy at the
store that has thread on it, a BOBBIN is a machine part that you wind thread
onto from the spool. And a CONE is the big spool that is used on industrial
and overlock machines.
Judy - in West Central Illinois with a FW and a 66 all cleaned/tuned and
ready to sew!
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 01:28:06 GMT
Subject: thanks!
From: ma@usa.pipeline.com (Maggie Arlotta)
To Graham and Bobbi,
Thank you so much for your time and effort in putting together our
new manual. Its really appreciated.You both did such a nice job!!!!!!!!!!!
To Graham;
I don't know what to think about my 27 with the like new
paint.The medallion is black also so I don't know who could have done such
a nice job on the gold work unless they were some kind of artist or had
origional decals to work with.Any ideas?
I found out the BD of my new treadle today and its a model 15 made on
2-1-16. I have such great luck with the oldies.Hope it keeps up.
Maggie in NY
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 1996 21:27:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lydia Pratt
Subject: 201
To Cindi: Run, do not walk, back and (assuming the bobbin case is there)
get the 201 for $25.00. That's a VERY good price for a very good machine.
To Wilma: The Spartan is not of comparable value as a FW, but don't
despair -- you have joined the ranks of those who own The Phantom of
Kilbowie! The company disavows of ever having made Model 192 Spartans at
the Kilbowie factory, but several of us have machines just as you
describe, which have "Made in Great Britian" written big as life across
the top of the machine, and a designation of "192K" on the stitch
regulator. The "K" in the model number indicates manufacture at the Kilbowie
factory near Clydebank, Scotland. Singer will probably not be able to give
you a birth date for the machine, but I have Jim Wagner's serial number
list and if you post the SN I'll see what it says. If you can get to the
FWF Digest archives, and want to look for yourself, he posted on February
18th of this year. My machine did not come with a case, so I don't know
about a replacement. But I think the machine does remain in the bottom
plastic part to sew.
P.S. If Singer DOES actually give you a birthday, please let me know.
I'll call back and try again.
To Bobbie: The Manual arrived today! Thanks so much!
_ _
Lydia Pratt |_|X|_|
Columbus, Ohio |X|*|X|
lspratt@freenet.columbus.oh.us |_|X|_|
Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 17:21:05 -0700
From: ADELAIDE LEWIS
Subject: Royal Equals King
This is what happens when you get your first message on to the
FWFanatics digest -- it turns out that you had it WRONG!!
My friend's machine about which I requested information or
hints for further research is not a "Royal" as posted. It is a
KING Rotary Shuttle treadle machine in a pristine mahogany, Empire-
style cabinet. He had the original warranty dated 1915 and it has
been lost. (OK, you've been patient and you deserve to know. He
brought to work to show it to me, left it in the men's room by
mistake, it was turned in to the receptionist and she THREW IT OUT --
some people just don't get it, do they?)
The machine is in excellent shape, nicely embellished and has lots of
attachments and the original instruction book. No model number seems
evident, but he doesn't know where to look for one and I don't have
any suggestions for him.
As originally mentioned, he is not a collector (he bought it because
he liked the cabinet and wanted something to put his tv on), so he might
be willing to sell this machine if there is someone who "needs" it.
Thank you for any help, suggestions or guidance you can offer.
Adelaide
P.S. I love reading the Fanatics' messages and have learned a great
deal in the few weeks I've been signed on. My FWs never had it so good.
What a great group you all are! And I think Sue must be at least a 12 on
the scale.
Date: 2 Jul 1996 13:17:48 +0000
From: "Lehrhoff Mary MSM SUPH US"
Subject: Data Page
Dear Sue: I think I have one of those data pages. A long time ago, I
called Singer about my old No. 2 (1887) and they sent me this sheet with a
bunch of numbers and information...it's a really poor copy or I'd scan it.
If you let me know if this would be of value to you (unless you already
have it) I'll type it over and zap to you...
It starts with (what looks like) REGISTRY NUMBERS, then QUANTIY ALLOTTED,
MACHINES, DATE ALLOTTED and seems to cover the year 1887, starting with
7467600 and ending with 7894999. My number is 7466998 (before their
registry numbers start...)...there is also some antedotal information...so
let me know...
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 11:15:58 -0400
From: Larry Doyle
Subject: FW for sale
Hi all, I have a FW for sale Born April 22,1947 black condition is an 8 the
case is in very good condition.No manual or attachments.runs perfect.All
decals ontact and very little visible wear.price$350.00
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 10:46:08 -0500 (CDT)>
From: 0177supt@informns.k12.mn.us (Dick Orcutt)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/1/96
To Bobbie,
Are you going to have another mailing of this wonderful booklet everyone is
thanking you for? I missed the original posting of what it was about.
Please let us know if there will be another one. Thanks
Sue in MN
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 12:53:22 -0400
From: KennaleeM@aol.com
Subject: ISMACS
To Graham and all: Sorry about my misleading post the other day. I got so
excited because I "knew" something and just copied it directly from my
Toystitchers newsletter. I started out collecting toys, but last weekend I
saw a handcrank machine with beautiful gold roses on it. It said "Rusby" I
think, and something about England. Anyone ever hear of it? I didn't look for
a SN and it had no price but the girl thought it was about $100.
Thanks for all the invaluable information. Kennalee
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 13:39:16 -0400
From: Seximexi1@aol.com
Subject: research
Hi my name is Juan Carlos Gutierrez and I'm a graduate student at the Miami
Ad School. I was browsing the Web doing some research about Singer Sewing
Machines so that I can produce a campaign of ads. That's how I came about
your address. I was wondering if you have any anecdotes or interesting
stories as to how you got involved in this "Trade or Hobbie" and what's the
reason for operating and owning a Singer machine. Please E-mail me back at
seximexi1@aol.com
Thank you for your help.
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 14:20:42 -0400
From: fs708@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Debra Roby)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/1/96
I picked up my FW today...Two weeks ago, I woke up hearing my "inner voice"
telling me that the machine was at a local antique store...and it was. On
sale. It is a 221-1 SN#AG531894..with the case (and 2 keys), 6 bobbins,
multiple feet (all of which I already had from 2 of my 99s...), and
original manual. I got it "out the door" for just under $175. Was this an
OK price? In decades of looking through antique/junk shops, this was the
first FW I have ever seen. (But I can--and do--find 99s all the time...)
While there, I saw three toy sewing machines. As i realize that there are
several collectors here, I thought I would mention these. If anyone is
interested in them, we can E-mail arrangements.
#1. A little red machine if working condition. The label was torn/worn in
the middle, but the part I could read said: G __ ay. The label had
red (and I think yellow) printing on it.
Price: $60. But they have 20% off all merchandise in July.
#2. Green German sewing machine with floral decals. Although it looks
good, it does not work. Has a cute little spring tension knob,
the needle is missing, and it's a bit wobbly.
Must be priced for it's looks.
Price: $115. Less the 20%.
#3. This one seems like the real find to me (I may go back and get it
myself...).It's a KAYanEE tannish brown machine on it's own wooden
base, seems to work just fine. The plate on the bed of the machine
says: (top to bottom) BERLIN/Made in Germany/US Zone.
Asking price: $35.
This shop does not take credit cards...cash only.
----------------
On another note (yes, this is the same post)...I have a 1921 99 in the oak
carrying case. The wiring is very bad...and I do not have the knee
lever to operate the machine were the wiring safe...I have been thinking
about converting this to a treadle (the manual was written for it as a
treadle, I ahve a separate manual for the motor...). Would taking it apart
and converting it back lower it's value? ARe there places to find the knee
lever? Suggestions welcome... (though I may ignore them)..
In Geauga Co., Ohio.
--
deb roby fs708@cleveland.freenet.edu
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 11:42:08 -0700
From: Bobbie
Subject: Update
Just to "clear the air" so to speak....Nobody owes anything Extra for the
Manual provided by Graham.
To clarify.....in my initial posting, I stated that I would be sending the
manual via Priority 3-day mail, and
I "thought" I had included the cost of that service, in the original price.
Well.....somewhere there was a
miscalculation....so I could NOT send the manuals priority. They all went
out, nonetheless.
My reason for posting that fiasco about the mailings was because I wanted to
clarify why the manuals
didn't go Priority, as I originally said they would. When I say I'm going
to do 'something' and then for
whatever reason, don't follow through, I have a problem with that. It was
"my" problem, nobody elses',
and perhaps, if I had said that in the original "explanation", I would have
made that aclear.
Once again, I an overwhelmed at the caring and generosity of those on the
FWF's digest. My mailbox
is absolutely FULL of msgs.from those wanting to send more $$. I thank
each and everyone of you for your offer,
and rest assured.......it is not necessary.
Stay well my friends.
--------------------=Bobbie=-----------------------------
Date: 02 Jul 96 15:07:25 EDT
From: Graham Forsdyke <100661.3256@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Contribution
To Ann-Marie re Howe machines.
Howe machines were actually made by two companies.
The Howe Sewing Machine Co of New York was established in 1855 by Amasa Howe
(Elias's brother).
The Howe Machine Company was Elias's own set up and operated out of Bridgeport
Conn, very near the Wheeler and Wilson Plant.
When Elias dies in 1867 his sons in law, the Stockwell brothers took over his
business and eventually also bought out Amasa's company. Production ended in
1886.
Price does not sound unreasonable. Howe was venerated more in America, where he
is generally believed (because of his won publicity campaign)to have invented
the s.m., than in the rerst of the world which has other ideas.
I've had a running battle with American ISMACS members over how the name Howe
is
pronounced. I go for Howe as in Cow wheareas most Americans want to pronounce
the final e as in Bowie.
All will be revealed next month when I have an interview with Howe's great
grandson who will resolve the matter. If you hear nothing more on this subject,
you will know I was wrong.
On the subject of pronounciation, anyone know why Americans do not pronounce
the
h in herb unlike the rest of the English-speaking world?
To Mary re Missesota A
Made by the Davis SM Co who were in Dayton Ohio from 1886 to 1924. Your machine
will date late 'teens.
To Julie re stupid questions
No so stupid.
A UK sourced Featrherweight will have a 220-240 volt motor. This would actually
run on 110 but very slowly and you would not do it any good. There are two ways
around it. 1) Use a simple transformer.I have kept a 220-240 Singer motor
running continuously for three days and nights from a 110 supply via a
transformer just to test the point. 2) Have the morot re-wound to run 110
volts.
I am currently having a batch done in the hope of being able to provide
American
FWFs with reasonably priced 221 and 222 machines. The ex-Singer man sounds
confident, says motors will finish up to original 110 volt specification and
will be guaranteed. Will keep everyone in touch.
When looking over here ask for 221 and 222 machines rather that Featherweights
-- more people will know what you mean that way. Don't bother with antique
outlets. Concentrate on secondhand shops, thrift stores and dealers who may
have
them dumped in the basement.
If you have no joy at all, give me a call on 0181 529 0394 and I'll try to
point
you in the best direction. You should certainly get \one here within your price
range.
Question no 3 See list of original attachments posted a couple of days back.
Questions 2 &4. There are others who can help you here far better than I.
To Sue re chat
I really think I'm not the only person who needs a little more help here. Got
thru to theplace but could find nothing to download -- just a lot of
interesting
data for tourists.
And as for addresses and ports???????? Is the address a telnet set up? And what
do we do about a port?. Instructions needed please.
To Mary L and Julie F re the Royal Family and I
Did think of writing directly to Fergie and Di but then I reasoned that by the
time they had found someone to read the letters for them, I'd be quicker
sending
my note to the Queen herself.
It took me ages to work out TIA, BTW and DH and now you hit me with MIL and
VBG. (Mean In Laws?) (Very Bad Grammar?)
IGU. (I give up).
To Chris V
The Singer guy who is looking into converting 220-240 volt motors for me is, on
my insistance, fitting replacement bearings. Says he can use sealed, pre-lubed
items that will never need lubricating. Any comments?
To Barbara re Wally World
Thanks for the explanation. I make Wally World my first stop when arriving in
the USA. I buy a cooler box which I can then dump at the end of the trip and a
feather pillow as I can't stand the foam varieties that are provided in many
motel rooms.
Graham Forsdyke
ISMACS London
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 96 13:16:04 EST
From: "Nancy Brand"
Subject: FW pictures/Book/Thanks
For those seeking pictures of FWs and other sewing machines --
The Great American Log Cabin Book by Carol Anne Wien, page 5, shows a
Featherweight.
Little Quilts All Through the House, page 27, shows a toy sewing
machine, and on page 26 is a treadle base made into a table.
Quick Classic Quilts by Marsha McCloskey, page 5, shows a
Featherweight.
Thanks, Bobbi, I received my book in Monday's mail! Quick work and
what a treasure. I am curious -- why was there no picture of a 319?
That machine has been mentioned a number of times on FWF. Were they
not sold in Gr B? I am curious as to what a 319 looks like and if
anyone can relate it one of the other pictures I would be
appreciative. Many thanks to Bobbi and Graham (love your stories) for
making this available to FWF members.
In a "that's not my job" world, it is truly amazing the cooperation
and assistance the FWF members give to one another. I see the same
questions asked and re-asked, and someone (or two or three) always
takes the time to answer again (and again and again). What a group!
Nancy Brand
Date: 2 Jul 1996 19:59:38 +0000
From: "Lehrhoff Mary MSM SUPH US"
Subject: Stuff
No one has really definitively remarked on using the Zigzagger with the 66.
99, 201, 221, 301 to name a few-- and or other models. If anyone has the
experience, it would be interesting to learn more about how well it works
with different models...possibly the buttonholer also. I think I've read of
mixed results over a time span. But before I put one on one of my Little
Beauties, I want to make sure that they won't be harmed, first of all and
secondly, that the results will make the effort worthwhile....and I do note
periodic queries from other FWFs.....
To Julie Fisher, re: The Hunt
Like they say about the lottery in New Jersey...you have to BE IN IT....TO
W-I-N....it!! So, that's why I buy lottery tickets and why I read all the
want ads and other stuff and go to estate sales, garage sales, yard sales,
flea markets, follow little old ladies home, look at trash, get the
drift...eventually IT WILL HAPPEN! If you give up, you'll A) miss out on
all that fun of looking, and B) will never get one unless C) some kind
person like (DH?) takes pity on you and gets you one for a Birthday or such
(HINT< HINT, DH)...
To Graham:
Any more information on your proposed jaunt to Maryland in August? And, my
thanks to you and Bobbie for providing the Manual (notice the Capital?). In
the front, it says machines made in Great Britain....would that explain why
I can't find the 301 and 500A? (Since I have them, I was looking for their
pictures in the YearBook) and I didn't catch that right away...am I correct?
Anyway, I love it and it's an invaluable aid to us maniacal SM
hunters.....so my thanks and gratitude piled on yours and Bobbie's heads...
To Sylvia Lanza:
I'll ask my guy how he feels about "giving out his name" - I started to
broach the topic to him before, but we got lost in conversation and I didn't
get a distinct impression that he was mad for the idea, but I'm calling him
right now....HOLD ON>>>>He said yes, he appreciates it...his name is
Richard, his phone number is: 1-800-544-5858 or 908-264-5858, which is in
Hazlet, NJ. I didn't ask him about shipping, so you might ask. When I see
him this week, I'll check with him, if I can remember..
ANd I have to sign off now...its time to GO!!!
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 17:25:39 -0400
From: yes@lansol.net
Subject: FWFs/GE portable book
Hi all - I bought a wonderful little book called, "Home Sewing Made Easy,"
by Laura I. Baldt published in 1928 by the McCall Pattern Co. Beautifully
bound, it has the imprint of GE on the cover, and to my amazement, the
reprinted manual for the GE portable machine. I saw such a machine last
weekend and thought it was quite nice. Anyhow, the book is beautifully
written, charming and right up my alley as an aspiring heirloom sewing
practitioner. On the same trip I found a FW buttonholer, FW blindstitcher
and a set of cams for yet another FW buttonholer ($10 for everything).
What impresses me about the FWF group is the expression of good will and
cheerfulness from contributors. Last summer I decided to forego the
internet completely after seing some of the vitriolic, "wacko" e-mail my
political science major son got from some of his newsgroups. I was so
impressed that he took the time to search for sewing groups for me. By
getting me hooked on these wonderful lists, he now gets me to pay for half
of the on-line expenses!
Nancy Wickes in beautiful Chester Co.,PA
Date: 02 Jul 96 17:13:30 EDT
From: Chris Vagtborg <71155.1072@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: post
Hi All...
For Julie Fisher... Re: Stupid Questions - First of all, we all started with
zero knowledge, but have learned over time. Some more than others. But
gathering information is honorable and no question from an inquiring mind
deserves to be prefaced with the word "Stupid"... Now for your questions, not
that I'm the omnipotent FW guru, but I am somewhat opinionated &I'd be happy
to share my opinions with you (VBG). #1 - Many machines built in the UK were
fitted with motors for USA current (110-120V, 0.4A, 25-75 cycles or DC) and
shipped to the USA. I dare say that any machines you find in the UK will be
rated at 220V, not 110. Graham, please correct me if I'm wrong. Question #2.
In my limited, but growing experience (6mos.), I've found two basic FW
purchasers... The Collector and the User. The Collector wants a machine to
look at, show off, put away for the grand child, etc. The User wants to SEW.
The problem with a FW is that it wears over time as you use it. And there's
no practical way to recover the paint or decorative trim. I've found that if
a machine sews well, it's worth having no matter what it looks like. Many of
our guild members feel a machine that looks "used" is a better unit as it's
been "Sewn In"... #3 - I think the buttonholer was an optional attachment.
Things like rufflers, cording feet, hemmers and shirrers were the standard
attachments. #4 - you make button holes with the button holer. It takes care
of the zig-zag stitching... Regards, and good Luck!
Well, gotta go... Chris Vagtborg, Stepping Stones Quilts, St. Simons IS. GA,
31522 - 912-638-7128. Purveyor of Instruction Booklets, Service Manuals and
parts for older Singer SMs. My most recent "15 Minutes of Fame" was making
the front cover of the Miata Club of America's Magazine, of which you can see
by firing up your favorite browser and visiting my Mazda Miata web page -
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/webspinner/miata.htm For SM pix,
visit http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/webspinner/quilts.htm
Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 16:39:37 -0700
From: The Dougherty Family
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 6/30/96
>I need some advice. I went to a garage sale today and found a 201 ( at =
>least I assume it's a 201, in the front it had a little plaque with a =
>201 on it - that is what that means, isn't it?)
Cindy--My dad bought a singer 201 for my mom the first month they were
married--over 50 years ago. She sewed on it for years and years, and even
when he subsequently bought her "better" and fancier machines, I think she
secretly missed her old reliable. Each of her 5 daughters had their own to
sew on, and I even sewed my wedding dress on it (as well as 3 of my sisters'
wedding dresses, countless bridesmaids' dresses, and an average of three
garments a week for many years!) If that 201 sews well, you should rush
right back and get it. I wish I still had mine--I sold it for $35 about 17
years ago when I upgraded to a Viking. Now one of my daugheters always
wants to sew when I'm sewing.
Teri Dougherty e-mail: dttes@indy.net
The Back Door--Your Creativity Source
23 years and going strong!
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 96 18:05:03 EDT
From: Gene Baker
Subject: Keys
We still have keys for the "Bentwood" cases and for the "Featherweight"
Black and Green cases. E-Mail will get you all the instructions you need.
--
Thanks
Gene Baker
You can find us on the World Wide Web at:
http://www.esinet.net/cabg/real_estate/bakerinc.html
From: EHGK92B@prodigy.com (MRS STUART Y INGE)
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 19:35:54, -0500
Subject: FW Fanatics 7/1/96
To Bobbi and Graham,
I had had a long hard trip and came home to find THE manual. Almost
made the trip worthwhile! Thanks for your work and the enjoyment
I'll receive from the manual.
Stuart
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 20:52:57 -0400
From: Courtvo@aol.com
Subject: 301s and good book
The Dr. took away my walker so now I'm walking around solo very slowly. A
little more progress each day. I'm just waiting for my vision to get back to
normal so I can sew. I took a machine quilting class the weekend before the
accident and I'm anxious to finish it. I waited until I found a 301 to take
the class so I could drop the feed dogs. I love my 301 (black, long ext. bed
with case). It came with a buttonholer and I have since purchased (through
FWF) a zigzagger for it. There is a walking foot for the 301 but it wouldn't
fit on my machine so I used a regular sewing foot and had the same results as
people using walking feet. I like the 301 because I don't have to worry
about hurting it like my two FWs. Don't worry, I still use my FWs. By the
way the serial number of the 301can be found on the bottom of the machine on
the presser foot (left) side of the machine.
I'm having some problems with my short term memory as a result of the
accident.
I appologize for the error. Julia E. sent me a neat minature Get Well quilt
and Dawn S. sent me a couple of neat pieces of fabric (one with kiwi? birds
(uniquely Australian) and one with treadle up to modern sewing machines on
it). Thanks so much. And thank you all for your get well e-mails.
Courtney
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Date: Thu, 4 Jul 96 20:28:46 -0500
From: Featherweight Fanatics
Subject: FW Fanatics 7/3/96
To: Sue@quilt.com
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Happy 4th of July to all the USA members of the FW Fanatics - Sue T
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 1996 22:11:30 -0600 (MDT)
From: sala@usa.net (Betty Sala)
I have been home for a couple of weeks with some minor surgery, and to help
the time go by my DH has been 'hunting' for me. He came home this time with
another little Singer toy machine in a red and cream plastic case with
'spring' type plastic latches and a black carrying handle - on the case,
that is! This machine runs on batteries operated with a little foot peddle.
It is a cute little thing - mostly cream colored with a couple of red dials
and the horizontal spool holder and its base are also red. This red is a
reddish orange but is not the orange that is the color of the Sewhandy toy
machine. The foot peddle is brown. Have not tried to sew with it yet - just
ran it to make sure it worked. Just had to get this out to all you Fanatics
to see what is known about this toy (I am not a toy collector but these
things just happen to turn up, and evidently most collectors are mainly
interested in the metal machines). The case and the machine both have the
name Singer on them. The battery cover is labeled model 67B, made in France,
but has instructions about the batteries in German! Something about the
batteries and a long time - so would imagine it translates into taking the
batteries out if not using the machine for a long time.
Any of you know anything about this model? Thanks for any help.
And let me add my thanks to Bobbi - got my copy today and am very grateful
for your time and effort!
Betty Sala sala@usa.net
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 16:38:59 +1000
From: Jeanette Holkner
Subject: Singer dates
I would appreciate if anyone is ringing the Singer 800 number to enquire
about the following machines. I have tried writing to them but my letter
was forwarded to the Hong Kong office!
8273299 F3176505 10263268 EG903906 Ej234633
Thanks
Jeanette in Melbourne where it is sunny but cold
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 00:27:12 -0700
From: friend
Subject: Bobbie Kopf you are wonderful!
I got my book about 2 days ago...sorry it took so long to notify you, but
I had a problem with my recently developed gastric ulcer. (I *HATE* the
tube in the nose...thank goodness they didn't put it back in yesterday!)
You did a wonderful job on the book Bobbie. I was expecting loose
photocopied pages, but you went to the work and expense of spiral binding
it and making a cover! You are so kind to people you only know via the
Internet. I just wanted you to know that your efforts are truly
appreciated.
Patty Casselberry
ps: Sue, you are wonderful as well. Because of you I got a manual for
my 99K, found a bobbin slide plate, got the book of sewing machines that
Graham &Bobbie made available, and endless hours of enjoyment and
information about old sewing machines. Thank you for making such a
wonderful contribution to so many peoples lives.
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 10:41:10 -0400
From: Claudette Roy-Viall
Subject: FW-What to look for when buying!
Dear Julie:
There are no stupid questions. . . only those people who don't know enough to
ask the
questions.
Question #1: I have a Singer FW model #222K. It works here!
(I'll let someone else answer the technical stuff.)
Question #2: If you find a machine:
1. MAKE SURE IT HAS A BOBBIN CASE.
2. Stand the machine on the balance wheel end and look down at the bobbin case
area.
a. Check the hook mechanism. Make sure the finger is not broken off,
(should be
long and pointy. . .this is what hooks the thread as the needle makes its pass
downward to make the stitch).
b. Check that the position finger of the bobbin case base enters the notch
of the
position plate attached to the underside of the throat plate. (All that means,
is
that there should be a piece 'finger' sticking up at the 12 o'clock position
that fits
into the notch from the underside of the throat plate. Throat plate is the
cover that
you see when you look down at the feed dogs (zig-zig teeth that move the fabric
between the presser foot) and on the FW has screws that hold it in position at
12
o'clock and 6 o'clock) This plate is removed to clean the lint collected from
the
sewing process. When this happens, often times the re-assembly is not correct
and the
machine is put away, "not working." Easily correctable (not that you would
have to
enlighten the seller about it :) ) but you can get a good deal if you know
that is
what is wrong with the machine.
c. Check for rust. If you have bumps on the black base of the machine under
the
paint, this could be a permanent and unfixable condition.
d. Check the needle. The flat side of the shank of the needle toward the
left and
pushed as far is it will go.
e. Thread the machine from right to left and give her a run. . . there
should be no
loud clunks or clinks, just some humming from the motor and movement of the
feed
dogs.
Question #3
Attachemnts:
Hemmer SIMANCO #120855
Adjustable Hemmer Singer #35931 (Black)
Multiple Sloted Binder Singer # 160359
Edge-Stitcher Singewr # 36865
Gatherer SIMANCO # 121441
Ruffler Singer # ?
These came in the green Singer box with the red-orange trim. Part # 160809
"for class
221 Machines" The parts were still wrapped in the original tissue paper.
Question # 4:
The FW makes a buttonhole with the separate Buttonhole Attachment. Look for a
short
shank buttonholer. The feed dogs are covered with a separate plate and the
attachment
moves the material to make the buttonholes to the design and size of the CAM
selected
and inserted into the attachment. The needle does not move.
Hope your have a great trip and that this will give you some help.
Claudette in New Bewford
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 10:51:03 -0400
From: Claudette Roy-Viall
Subject: Question#4
Dear Julie:
RE: Question #4: That last sentence "The needle does not
move." is incomplete. Of course it moves, just not sideways,
only up and down. Sorry about that!!
Claudette in New Bedford
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 11:10:11 -0400
From: EHurl10028@aol.com=
Subject: Re: This and that
Hello all of you sewing machines alcoholics out there, or am I the only one?
Some how I don't think that is the case but I sure do have it bad. DH is just
about ready to give up on me. Yes I do hide machines under the bed or at
least the grandchildren's crib. Do you know that you can fit 6 featherweights
and one spartan under a crib? All kidding aside I hope that I finally have
some information to share after just reading and soaking up all the info that
you all share. Called Singer yesterday to get some info on my Spartan and A
99 that I just aquired. Many of you have said that Singer was unable to tell
you about your Spartans, got ahold of a great lady who was full of
information. Sparta # EP 456976 Was made July 29th 1959. Asked about a book
and was told I could order one from Singer Service Center and that the item
number 505257-192. Hope that this helps date some other machines as well as
make it possible to obtain written help on threading etc. The 99 I found was
in a plastic case instead of the bent wood cases of my others and is electric
with attatched foot control Godzilla finish. Sews like a dream. I was
guessing from the serial number that it was a 45 or 46 as I had never heard
of one dated during world was 2. Imagine my suprise when I was told that it
was made April 1st 1942. Is this unusual or have I just not seen or heard of
one made during this time period before? #AG 403082
Bobbie my manual came yesterday and boy is full of information and fur to
look at, Thank you for all your hard work.
Also want to thank some fine members of this group, as well as Sue who is
GREAT for all her hard work we appreciate you Sue, being wonderful to deal
with. I was able to find 2 very sought after featherweights thanks to this
list and people were great to deal with. I love the machines. Also bought
some of the keys that were listed for sale and they all work well in my
cases. I sure don't know where else a person would be able to find such
treasures. Thanks to you all.
Elaine in not so sunny Washington State.
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 10:37:13 -0500 (CDT)
From: Lisa
Subject: Re: MIL and VBG
Graham...
MIL = Mother-in-law
VBG = Very Big Grin
:) Lisa
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 09:40:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Diana Orhun
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/2/96
To Mari: I live in Vacaville and my sister is in Nevada, and although we
only have one FW each, we are in love with them and would love to join in
a FW "convention". Napa or Sonoma or ANYWHERE in that area would be
HEAVEN... Count us in if this plan comes together!!!!
Thanks, Diana
From: Venitta McCall
Subject: 99 manual
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 13:06:36 EDT
I really need a copy of the manual for the 99. I will gladly pay--after
3 requests no has responded and FWFs are such wonderful folk--can
someone help me in this request...thanks much!!
venitta
vmccall@mwc.edu
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 13:00:42 -0500
From: jfisher@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu (Julie Fisher)
Subject: FW Search
Many thanks to all of you who answered my questions about FWs. I feel much
better about trying to assess the condition (both cosmetic and working) of
any FW I see offered for sale--or just lying around unattended! : -)
The safari continues!
Julie
Oxford, MS
jfisher@olemiss.edu
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Date: Wed, 3 Jul 96 12:44:36 -0700
Subject: FwF Convention=
To Gretchen,
Wonderful idea, I am in Palo Alto, and think a get togerther is a great idea,
also...I'll help organize...just let me know.
NOW FOR MY TALE...
I just joined this list two weeks ago. Friday eve I flew to LA (my husband
and I commute each weekend!) and was looking through the garage sale ads and
wondered if any might have a FW. Well one ad published the phone number, so I
called about 8 pm; "Do you have any sewing machines, I asked" Just one little
black singer! was their response.
Oh, (my heart pounding) could I come by NOW? "NO, tomorrow" Well what time
will you open in the morning, I asked impatiently. 7:30, fine, could you hold
it for me, my name is Carollee...sure he said, and the price? I asked... $35!
OH, OK....Well at 5 am, I am trying to wake my husband...I was SO excited and
could hardly sleep. He was very nice and supportive and we left the house at
6am. There were people there before me, but no one had spotted the little black
box. They increased the price to $55 but I am very happy and grateful to my
sewing fairy that helped me find my very own FW. Her birthdate 8/20/50! The
case is good and has many attachments and bobbins, but WHAT DOES A BOBBIN CASE
LOOK LIKE? AND IN THE CASE NEXT TO A LITTLE METAL BOX IS A HOOK TO HOLD
SOMETHING ROUND, WHAT IS THIS FOR? It doesn't show in the manual.
Thanks for this great list and thanks for the information.
Carollee Williams-Schuegraf in California
Also, Why it is that quilters are so versatile, my friends who aren't quilters,
don't understand the internet either....Just wondering!
HAPPY 4th of JULY to ALL!
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 12:09:23 -0700
From: kbelsky@esu2.esu2.k12.ne.us (Kathy Belsky)
Subject: found a featherweight
Last Saturday, I went "looking" No luck at the garage gales. Then I hit
the antique shops. At the last one, I started to ask if they had any
featherw... and then I saw the box on the floor. The box was in pretty
good shape, a few scratches and the corners were a little banged up, but
not bad. Inside the machine looked like about a 7 on the scale. The foot
pedal looked brand new. Didn't match with the wear on the machine, Not
that there was much wear on the machine, just that there was NONE on the
pedal. The bobbin case was there and there were 5 or 6 bobbins. I didn't
check on attachments. The asking price was $475, but she said that
included the table. The table was not in that great of shape. The top
looked weathered, but it appeared to be all intact and usable. I said that
was too much and she said she could come down to $435. I wasn't really
interested in the table, so I didn't buy it. Should I have, It might be
there yet. I really KNOW my husband would have a fit, but yesterday, he
bought a $175 fishing pole!! Should I wait for a better one ( 8 or 9) and
a cheaper price. In another shop, they had the rectangular box with the
velvet lining(green) and the attchments. They wanted $17. The velvet was
worn and pulled up in one place. I already had my grandma's and it was in
perfect condition. What exactly is a bentwood? Does the case come up and
bend over the top like an upside down U? I saw one of those machines.
HEAVY!!! price $110. let mer know if I should have bought the machine and
table or if I should wait for that $5.00 one. (HaHA) Kathy
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 1996 02:02:40 -0700
From: viola@whidbey.net (Viola Kimball Webb)
Subject: Cleaning machine
I just returned from my mother's house in Seattle. While I was there I took
a good look at her old Singer. I called Singer and it is a model #27 made
on March 18,1904.
The gold is quite worn on the bed near the needle, and there is some wear on
the upper part. It isn't surprising though, since this is her main sewing
machine and has been since she bought it in about 1938. She said she bought
it in a Goodwill store for $12. I am 61 and I learned to sew on it when I
was very small. She has had it as long as I can remember, and I have a long
memory.
The machine runs very smoothly and is a joy to sew with. I love the
rhythimc motion of the treadle.
The cabinet has 3 drawers on each side and a lot of molding in very nice
shape.
She has never cleaned the outside of the machine because she was afraid the
gold design would come off. It has the Egyptian Sphinx motif.
What is the best way to get that old dark film cleaned off? I know some
people have mentioned WD40, but I am not sure that is the best stuff to use.
Thanks for your help.
Viola
viola@whidbey.net
Date: 03 Jul 96 17:06:35 EDT
From: Graham Forsdyke <100661.3256@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Contribution 24
True story number twenty-four.
Don't tell me, I know this story is a little out of sequence but time is short
and it could be the most important thing you ever see on the Internet.
Im cheating here a little and using my true story category to make a very
important personal plea. I know the power and the spread of the Internet and I
want to use it here to make our forthcoming American visit to search for sewing
machines, that much more enjoyable.
Please Mr and Mrs America, please learn how to make a cup of tea.
Let me tell you how we do it in England.
We'll assume that we are all using tea bags for the purpose of this
instruction.
Take tea bag and put in cup. Take cup to source of boiling ( that's boiling as
in boiling) water. Decant boiling water into cup.
That's all there is to it.
But let me tell you how you do it in America. A typical family restaurant will
sufice for our example.
Take order from Englishman for cup of tea. Insult him by asking does he want it
hot or iced. (No-one but no-one outside of the USA drinks cold tea)
Take glass to special container of luke-warm water and fill. Put glass on
counter and search in drawer for supply of tea bags. Go ask Joe in the kitchen
where the tea bags are. Find one and place it on counter next to glass of tepid
water. Search in other drawer for special, stainless-steel glass holder. Write
cheque for table number five. Put glass of barely warm water in holder. Give
truck driver directions for finding the Interstate. Take cup of near-cold water
and tea bag to customer .Be sure that there is absolutley nowhere for customer
to put dripping tea bag when he takes it from the glass. Put glass and tea bag
on table.
Say "enjoy".
Should the Englishman call you back, plunge three fingers into the glass, hold
them there and say " I shouldn't be able to do this " -- that will be me,
making
yet another vain attempt to educate the people of America into the noble art.
Graham Forsdyke
PS I have my answers to comments about warm beer all ready and waiting.
.
Date: 03 Jul 96 17:07:35 EDT
From: Graham Forsdyke <100661.3256@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Contribution
To Judy re spools/bobbins/cones
I'll put a spool right on the top
And beneath, I'll place the bobbin.
It's true, I don't American speak
But it's the English language you're robbin.
To Maggie re re-painted Singer.
Two further thoughts. Have just remembered that I was told somethime that
directly after the war when materials were still not being released, Singer did
rebuild old machines.
Also, isn't there a hand-crank Singer being made in Taiwan or somewhere
similar?. Seem to remember seeing one in Marvin Tabic's store in Vegas a couple
of years back.
There certainly were Singer decals about in the 1960s --I have a few given me
by
a dealer. Whether they were produced by Singer and left the factory in a lunch
pail or were produced by another company, I have no idea.
To Adelaide Re Royal Family
The King was made by the Standard SM Co of Cleveland Ohio. Standard started in
1884 and was bought out by Singer in 1931.
The receptionist that threw out the warranty, where is she working now?
To Kenalee re English Rusby
We had a Rushby -- a dealer in Lincolnshire who imported cheap German machines,
adjusted the tension and claimed that were his own manufacturer -- in the 1920s
but no Rusby. There were also American Rugby machines made by Free SM Co and A
G Mason Mfg Co on the 1910 to 1930 period.
To Debra re FW and toys
The FW sounds real good for the money.
The toys
First you mention is a Gateway built late 1940s to mid 50s by Gateway
Engineering Co of Chicago Ill, Some were sheet metal construction, other cast
alluminium. Price sounds good if OK condition.
Second I can't pin down from the description.
Third is KayanEE Corp of America which had a hq in New York abd imported its
machines from Germany. The American Zone indicates that it was made within six
years of the end of the Second World War. Sounds cheap.
Converting your 99 to treadle operation wouldn't diminish its value providing
that you used all the correct treadle parts. And remember fewer collectors have
rooms for lots of treadles so demand is slightly less.
To Mary L and all re missing Singers
The Singer Recognition Manual which Bobbie has worked so hard to send out was
originally designed so that Singer dealers would be able to recognise machine
received for repair. It features machines sold in the UK only . It's quite
possible, for example that all those Spartan K machines were made here but only
sold in the USA. The Singer co would often look for spare capacity in any
factory when deciding where a machine would be built. IE Cheaper to build in
the
UK and send to the States than to stop an assembly line and re-tool in the USA.
Ford does it all the time.
Re Baltimore trip.
Maggie and I are still trying to sort out the logistics of being in three
places
at the same time but somehow we are going to get there. I've no more
information
on what will go on. Suggest you contact our host direct. I'm not giving out his
number here as I've an idea he could get swamped., but will respond to private
e-mail requests.
To all re help with videos
For our little get together in Bailtimore, I plan to bring some videos of TV
shows that feature Maggie and/or her collection. Problem is that, just as you
drive on the wrong side of the road, America has a different VHS format to us
and I would need to get videos converted from British and Japanese ( I haven't
seen this one) formats into something that will play in the USA.
Is this something I can get done easily just about anywhere, or will it be a
major, send-away operation?
Help and advice please.
Have noticed the admirable tendancy for some contributors to end their postings
with a quote, so I'll get in on the act.
Graham F
ISMACS London
Someday a lemming will fly.
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 19:05:38 -0400
From: Fritz906@aol.com
Subject: FwF
I had a great time on my aniversary , hunting Old Machines, found a bunch,
one15-91Aniversary model in a nice cabinet, a Singer Hand Crank, 2- Singer
Spinx, 2- White Family models , an this little machine that is in terrible
shape ( Mennesota B) it has it's shuttle &sews nice , but the paint is
almost all gone, I just took a liking to it, oh well can't save them all. Oh
yes a nice 99 .
Sewing on Sandy
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 22:35:21 -0400
From: MargelS@aol.com
Subject: Wheeler and Wilson, etc.
I recently saw a Wheeler and Wilson No. 8 treadle. It really looks much
better than the photo in the Carter Bays book. The box covering the machine
head was definitely Eastlake in style as were the pulls on the drawers. The
mechanism moved very smoothly despite the dust. I really thought it was a
Willcox and Gibbs as first, as they look so much alike from the top. It had
several different feet with it, but no owner's manual. The back of the
machine had a section that flipped up as well as at the left side - the more
usual style. It really made the sewing bed huge - great for quilting! I now
wonder why more machines didn't make their machines with this feature. It is
so sensible. I am sorely tempted to get the machine. It is listed at $95,
but I am sure they will come down at least 10%. The problem is that I don't
need another treadle as they just take up toooooooo much space. I really
want to get more handcranks, but I have not had any luck despite looking
continously. I get so jealous every time someone on this list tells about
finding a handcrank. The type I had stolen was much like the first or
second one shown in Graham's manual, and I long to find another to replace
it. I really can't tell the difference between the two from the copy. Mine
came in a bentwood case, but the wood was definitely different from the
later models I have seen. Graham - are these machines common in England?
If so, how much would they typically run and how much would it cost to ship
it on a slow boat? That Wheeler and Wilson keeps calling to me!
Quite a while back I did run into a handcrank called a Handy. It
doesn't appear to have come in any type of case. The base is cast iron and
the machine lifts from this base -it is hinged at the back side. Any
information would be appreciated. It does not appear to be a particularly
early machine.
While searching for anything sewing related, I ran into a Singer sock
darner/mender attachment. It was in the original box and had the instruction
sheet with it. It was just a wire circle with coiled sides that held the
sock so that you could use the sewing machine to mend it. They wanted 10.00.
If anyone is interested, let me know.
In yesterday's post, someone mentioned a 319. I just saw one completely
by accident. I was in a favorite antique store the other day when I spotted
a case that was a twin for my 301a with a price tag of $68. Expecting to
find a bargain 301, I quickly bent down and opened it to find a green machine
with a plate stating it was a 319w. It had a front dial like the 401 but
with levers on the top like the strange 419w I recently gave to my SIL. I
didn't remember hearing anyone talk about it on FWF before. It didn't have a
owner's manual and this machine really needs one.
Bobbie and Graham - many thanks for the manual.
Margel - In South Bend, IN where the antique shops are multiplying daily.
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Date: Fri, 5 Jul 96 21:11:21 -0500
From: Featherweight Fanatics
Subject: FW Fanatics 7/4/96
To: Sue@quilt.com
X-Mailer: LeeMail 2.0.5
Message-Id:
IMPORTANT: Our next online chat will be held tomorrow, Saturday, July 6th,
from 7pm to 10pm USA east coast time. You will need to download the palace
software from http://www.thepalace.com. The address for the chat is:
204.249.244.11 Port 9998
Since I've had alot of questions from people about how to get the software, how
to install it, how to get to the chat, etc, I am setting up a special web page
to help those interested in getting to the chat to get there. The URL for chat
help-line page is: http://ttsw.com/Chat
I have NOT YET set this page up, but will have it in place by tomorrow morning.
Hope to see you tomorrow. Any questions, please e-mail me: Sue@ttsw.com
Thanks,
Sue T
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 00:16:29 -0400
From: "David M. White"
Subject:
Hi Gang,
Just wanted to say thanks to Bobbie for her time and effort in getting the
copy of Grahams' book out to us. I got mine today and sat down to read it
cover to cover without putting it down. Great Book!
Thanks Bobbie and Graham you both are 10's in my book.
Have a good day.... David (:D
###############################################################################
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Woodbridge, Virginia or dmwwd4skq@aol.com
20 Miles South of Washington DC.
Hobbies: Amateur Radio, WD4SKQ, Computers, Electronics, Home Automation,
Koi Fish, Softball, Old Sewing Machines
Favorite Quote: "You Will Pay For Your Lack Of Vision" The Emperor, Star Wars
From: "Lois Whelan"
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:02:07 -0400
The machine I looked at was a Janome 9000. It had all the bells and
whistles that they all do and was just great. My first and foremost
priority in a new machine is the visibility of the monitor and this was is
the best I've seen. The question I put to the salesgirl was, "Why should
I buy this machine over the other brands". She couldn't answer. The
salesgirl was about 50 per cent knowledgeable about the machine which
didn't help me. It comes with design cards but additional cards range
from $125-$150, similar to Bernina's "keys".
I plan on trying out the Pfaff (don't know anything about it or the
price).
What annoyed me was the lack of informed salespeople for close to a
$4000. purchase.The salesman at the computer store spend 1 1/2 hrs. with
us, answering our questions, etc. For a sm. they push a button and say,
"Look at the pretty flowers this makes". I came home with very little
information and feeling angry . I feel for that kind of money they should
have put alot more effort and time into the potential sale. The kicker is
while I was looking another woman came into the store to buy a
computerized machine. She felt equally ignored as well (we exchanged
e-mail addresses to keep each other up to date). THAT STORE LOST TWO
SALES because of their ignorance. Please keep me informed. Lois Whelan
(lojowhln@sover.net)
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 08:19:09 -0400
From: Larry Doyle
Subject: FW for sale
Hi all, I have a FW for sale Born April 22,1947 black condition is an 8 the
case is in very good condition.No manual or attachments.runs perfect.All
decals ontact and very little visible wear.price$350.00
From: "June Millican"
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/2/96
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 09:10:00 -0700
Hi, I ove this digest. I run to my computer every day for the next mail.
My question is about a machine I just bought at an antique store. I
actually was interested in the cabinet it was in, but once I came home
with it and took the machine out and looked at it, the machine has my
interest. It is different from my model 66. I called Singer and the most
they could tell me was that it was made in Canada and that they started
making them in May 1960. It's SN is JC244602. It has the tension control
on the left side of the face plate. It has a bobbin case in the same
place as the FW's. It has a stitch indicator with lengths up to 20. It
is cast iron from the weight of it. It's been fairly abused and has had
some chemical spilled on the table surface and that has taken off the
shine. On the front surface of the table, the gold is worn away. I
originally thought I'd just sell the machine at a garage sale, but after
cleaning and oiling it up, it seems to work well machanically. The motor
needs to be rewired since the wire was not connected to the motor, but my
DH is going to do that for me. I have a 99 and in the parts drawer there
was a manuel for a 15k80. My find greatly resembles the picture in the
manuel. The only problem is the manuel is written in Dutch, which I dont
really read. If it was in Swedish I could' but not Dutch. Do I have a
15-80 and is ther anyone who can tell me something about them? I'd
appreciate your help. My other question is about a 301a I found at a
thrift store. The bobbin has missing parts. I tried a local Singer
dealer and they wanted me to buy a new one for $100. They told me that
they couldn't get any parts to fix it. Does anyone know of anyplace I can
get parts to fix the bobbin? It is missing the part you grasp to pull it
from the holder and that tiny little screw to secure it on. I'd
appreciate you help. June in Wa.
From: Gail Pickens-Barger
Subject: It won't sew!
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:23:19 -0500
Hello all again!
Argh! Yes, it happened again. My threads got caught in my bobbin again! My
"sewing" featherweight (not my "show" featherweight---my "10") I mistakenly
didn't
sewing on material again, and "whammo"! I had to take the bobbin assembly
apart.
I took my tweazers and pulled the thread out oh, so gently, after I took out
the very
very small screw out. Pulled back the mechanism, in order to get access to
where
the tangled threads were. I've said it before, its in Nancy's book where it
describes
this phenomena.
Again, if you have problems with the needle not "sewing" (going up and down,
through
the feeddogs, etc) its probably because of lint, and tangled threads in the
bobbin case
area. I had to call my Dad (Dale Pickens, plug plug (LOL!!)) to have him
describe to
me on the phone how to get the threads out. This was before I knew much about
the featherweights.
Question, to you all, how often do you change your needles out on your
featherweights?
I only occasionally use mine (three times in a month for about 2-4 hours at a
time).
Thanks! Happy Featherweighting!!
Gail Pickens-Barger
http://www.icsi.net/~pickens
From: Gail Pickens-Barger
Subject: Some "Chat" instructions....
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 11:12:56 -0500
Hi All,
I was one of the people able to sign onto the chat line last week. Just to
give you a little
bit more information on it...here goes.
A. After you download "The Palace" chatting software, you can "chat" on "The
Palace"
server as a guest. If you are wanting to be represented as a unique user, you
will need to
call the 1-800 number, to pay $25 to register the "The Palace" Shareware
software. In about
two (2) hours you will receive your registration number. In acquiring your
registration number,
you will be able to 1. Have your own unique user name (something other than
Guest 111),
and 2. Be able to import your own graphics (Gif files, or Bmp files) to go
along with your
unique name. This all probably doesn't make any sense, unless you sign onto
"The Palace"
chat line and see whats going on.
B. Now, to sign onto Sue's connection or Sue's server (different places can
"act" as a chat host)
you will need to do the following.
- Double click your "The Palace" icon.
- Select "File", then select menu item of "Connect"
- You will then have a Dialog or Selection Box, with the contents of
User Name
Palace Server Address Numbers
You need to enter in or take the default of Guest (depends if you are
registered or not!)
for the user name.
You will then (Very important step next) need to click on the field
that has the Palace
Server Address and type in the numbers of 204.249.244.11, then
You will then need to click on the next item (numbers) and type in the
Port number of
9998.
Click the okay button, and you should soon be connected to Sue's chat
time.
C. Once you are in the Chat area, you should see a picture of a castle, and
it should say
The Palace - tack's chating palace.
Sue, if I have missed something in this description, please let us know!!
Thanks!!
Gail Pickens-Barger, daughter of Dale and Deloris Pickens, those featherweight
safari hunters!!
http://www.icsi.net/~pickens
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 08:19:13 -0400
From: Larry Doyle
Subject: FW for sale
Hi all, I have a FW for sale Born April 22,1947 black condition is an 8 the
case is in very good condition.No manual or attachments.runs perfect.All
decals ontact and very little visible wear.price$350.00
From: MEPT56A@prodigy.com (MS NAOMI R GORING)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 18:32:14, -0500
Subject: Zigzag Attachment
For Mary Lehrhoff:
I had a zigzagger on my mother's FW about 11 years ago. I have used
it and was not very
satisfied with the results. The attachment is heavy, relative to the
machine, and it caused the FW
to vibrate. Also, the weight of the cloth made it hard to keep the
stitches going in the right
direction. I think most modern sewing machines designed to zigzag
would give better results. I
traded that FW for a new Viking, primarily because I couldn't make a
good buttonhole or zigzag
stitch. Of course I'm sorry about that trade now, and recently
bought a replacement FW. I'm
actually looking to buy a zigzag attachment now myself, mostly
because of its historical interest,
rather than as a practical tool. I don't think that using the
zigzagger would harm your machine. I
hope you do find one for your FW!
Date: 04 Jul 96 18:04:00 EDT
From: BReynold@admin.nmt.edu
Subject: Just catching up
I was two weeks behind in reading my FWF digests at 2:00 this afternoon when
I got started. Now I'm only 8 days behind and it's 6PM. Whew. The
problem is that I'm reading from my office in the holiday-closed library and
I just can't sit still when I know there's a picture of Barb Tricarico
sitting in a US News only one story above me. So I ran up to take a look.
Congratulations Barb. I love the quilt on the wall behind you.
Then along came Beth with a comment about long-lived Mary Brooks Picken and
I just had to run out to the reference collection to look her up in
Contemporary Authors. Here's what it says in v.103, published in 1982:
Picken, Mary Brooks 1886(?)-1981
Obituary notice: born c. 1886; died March 8, 1981, in Williamsport, Pa.
Fashion expert and author. Picken was an authority on dress, fabric, design
and sewing. She was the first woman to be named a trustee of the Fashion
Institute of Technology. Her ninety-six books on sewing and decorating
include _The Language of Fasion._ Obituaries and other sources: New York
Times, March 11, 1981.
Well, I'm resisting running to the NYT to scope out this source. I just
wanted to make sure that our Mary wasn't the Betty Crocker of the sewing
world. Sounds like one dynamic woman.
--Betty in sunny Nuevo Mexico where the fireworks ban was finally lifted and
we're about to burn up our state. Happy Fourth.
====================================================
Betty Reynolds -- New Mexico Tech Library -- Socorro NM USA
breynold@admin.nmt.edu (mail)
breynold@prism.nmt.edu (news)
http://www.nmt.edu/~breynold (WWW homepage)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 20:18:18 -0400
From: duck@clark.net (Bob Campbell)
Hi:
For those newcomers to the list -- I'm interested in trading one (or more)
of my Singer Featherweights in exchange for some toy sewing machines. I'm
interested in any of the following toy machines:
"Little Mother" by Artcraft Metal Products
Older Casige models in good shape including #6; Sunflowers; Little Red
Riding Hood; Sew-O-Matic; various Art Deco models.
Genero Machine Works "Gurlee"
Hoge Mfg. Co. "No 325 - Popular Model-Little Princess"
Made in Germany - Vielfach Geschutz "Liliputian"
Lindstrom Tool &Toy Co. "Little Miss" Shirley Temple
F.W. Muller - any models pre WWII. (including toy treadles, Models 16, 18, 21)
Schurhoff and Co. "Gold Rain'
Sears Roebuck Kenmore by National Sewing Machine Co. "bright red" 1930"s and
1940"s
Sotoy "Martha Washington"
Made in Japan "Puppy"
If you have any of these toys or know any serious collectors please let me
know.
Thanks
Bob Campbell
duck@clark.net
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 21:07:50 -0400
From: WRDipple@aol.com
Subject: Mystery Pad
Last year at a local auction I picked up a ' White' treadle with a fuctional
automatic pulley mechanism. The exposed cabinet needs work, as the finish is
flaking off, and the front knee panel must be reattached - but the machine
sews like a trouper and the metal attachment case is mostly complete.
My ????: along with this $3.00 treadle came a _felt pad_ that measures 15X12
inches and is 3/4 inch thick, the edges are cut in a "pinking" edge. It fits
on the treadle grate perfectly. I haven't been able to find any reference to
this type of pad anywhere. Any ideas what this is for and how common it is -
er was?
Sunny and warm here on the east side of Iowa. Open window weather.
Thanks all - Wanda
Date: Thu, 04 Jul 1996 20:49:56 -0600
From: jlhodge@iAmerica.net (Judy L. Hodge)
Subject: Garage Sale Find
To everyone who dreams of finding a FW at a garage sale for peanuts -- this
will revive your hopes! Last night I had a "first date" with a guy and we
were at his home and he was showing me a Beatles poster he had purchased at
a garage sale. I told him I make all the garage sales I can because I'm
always looking for old sewing machines. He told me he'd found a "little
older Singer in a black case" at a garage sale a while back and paid $20.
I stopped him in his tracks and said -- let me see it! We climbed into the
attic (probably 200 degrees!), dug around and found it. I thought my
anniversary model was a 9 but this machine makes mine look like a 2! I'll
bet it hasn't been used one hour! Has a scroll face plate and I believe the
serial number began with AE. Said his ex-wife had tried to get him to throw
it away and he thought she had thrown away the manual. Had lots of feet and
the tube of grease in its box. No buttonholer.
Hmmmm, I may have to try for a second or maybe third date with this guy!
Judy Hodge
jlhodge@iamerica.net
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:46:11 -0400
From: SadieRose@aol.com
Subject: Sewing Machine Murder
Hi, FWFans!
Our local newspaper put out a special tabloid to help celebrate Iowa's
Sesquicentennial. The following article was written by Brian Barber, staff
writer at the Waterloo Courier.
"DIFFERENCES OVER SEWING MACHINE LEAD TO MAN'S SLAYING"
"Victim's children called to testify about 1911 incident."
"Long before the OJ Simpson trial was the talk of the town, the metro area
was buzzing with the details of what everyone called "the sewing machine
killing".
It all started on a fall day in 1911, when J.T. McCaskill of Jesup (Iowa)
tried to deliver a sewing machine to the farmhouse of Henry Phillips.
The only people home when McCaskill arrived were Phillips' children,
Susie, 14, and Henry, 15. Their father had ordered the machine earlier from
a salesman.
McCaskill was instructed to take Phillips' old machine as partial payment
for the new one. He brought in one machine, then took out the other.
After instructing the children on how to use the new machine, McCaskill
said he would stop by later that afternoon when Phillips would be home.
When he returned, McCaskill was admitted into the house, and he took off
his overcoat. Phillips began to verbally abuse him, saying McCaskill had
brought the new machine into the house without the proper permission.
Phillips grabbed an iron fire poker from under the stove and threatened
to kill him. McCaskill ran outside and started to unfasten the old sewing
machine from his wagon.
Phillips still came at him with the poker. McCaskill drew a gun, which
he carried because he carried large sums of money, and told Phillips to back
off.
McCaskill said he needed to go back inside the house to get his coat and
the new machine. Phillips gave him permission to go inside and get the
items.
When they were in the kitchen, Phillips struck him with the poker several
times, knocking him to the floor. McCaskill pulled his gun and shot the man
in the leg. A struggle ensued, and Phillips was shot in the chest.
McCaskill surrendered to authorities, and testified to these events at
his trial in Waterloo (Iowa).
The testimony of Phillips' children differed from that of McCaskill.
They said their father was trying to hold the door shut, and that McCaskill
got the gun around the door and fired from that position.
The children also said their father had complained about the weight of
the new machine and that McCaskill had not properly instructed them in its
use.
McCaskill was convicted of manslaughter in two trials, but both were
reversed. The Iowa Supreme Court reversed the first conviction because of an
error in the instructions to the jury. The second was reversed because the
prosecution had made a reference to the first manslaughter conviction."
Wonder what happened to those 2 sewing machines?? If only our sewing
machines could talk...what stories would they have to tell??
Holiday Greetings to all!! Karan (SadieRose)
From: EHZG23B@prodigy.com (MRS LISA DUGGAN)
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:45:05, -0500
Subject: TEA
Graham,
Let me tell you how things work in the good USA!
Tea made with boiling water =major lawsuit
Tea made with lukewarm water everyone stays out of court!
Hope this clarifies our way of doing tea! yo-yo EHZG23B@Prodigy
.com
"Sweetening one's tea is generally the first stirring event of the
day."
" A Social Tea for Quilters: Stitchin; rippin;and sippin!"
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:41:52 -0400
From: fs708@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Debra Roby)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/3/96
Graham,
This is how I make tea:
#1. put kettle on to boil.
#2 collect teapot.
#3. When water first boils, pour hot water into teapot.
Then place kettle back on fire.
#4. As kettle begins to come to boil again, pour water out of
teapot. Place teabags into the warmed pot. (I would use
loose, but it is such a mess.)
#5. Just as water begins to boil second time, pour water over
teabags.
#6. Let seep 5-6 minutes, then remove teabags and serve.
You can come have a cuppa at my house anytime...
>
>To Debra re FW and toys
>
>The FW sounds real good for the money.
>The toys
>
>First you mention is a Gateway built late 1940s to mid 50s by Gateway
>Engineering Co of Chicago Ill, Some were sheet metal construction, other cast
>alluminium. Price sounds good if OK condition.
>
>Second I can't pin down from the description.
>
>Third is KayanEE Corp of America which had a hq in New York abd imported its
>machines from Germany. The American Zone indicates that it was made within six
>years of the end of the Second World War. Sounds cheap.
I thought so, too. Too bad I don't collect toys.(And nobody has asked
about them).
>
>Converting your 99 to treadle operation wouldn't diminish its value providing
>that you used all the correct treadle parts. And remember fewer collectors
have
>rooms for lots of treadles so demand is slightly less.
But MY USE may be slightly higher....We have had power outages each of the
last 3 years that lasted over 24 hours...one lasted 4 days. And we have
electrically driven well water and septic system. No water in or out of
our house for 4 days!! But with a treadle...I could sew.
(during the 4 day outage--in 80 degree weather--I showered in the afternoon
rainstorms. Glad my next door neighbors hadn't built yet..what a show they
might have gotten..
On another note: a couple of "netnotes" you might not have seen yet:
IMO--In My Opinion
TIA Thanks in Advance
my most often used one: hth--hope this helps.
hth
--
deb roby fs708@cleveland.freenet.edu
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Date: Sat, 6 Jul 96 11:47:49 -0500
From: Featherweight Fanatics
Subject: FW Fanatics 7/5/96
To: Sue@quilt.com
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From: "Dan E. Rothenbuhler P.E."
Subject: RE: Things and Stuff
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 22:44:59 -0600
Happy Fourth of July
Bobbie...got my manual on Monday, thanks loads. It's is going to be a
great help in identifying all the sewing machines that get written about
here..Super job.
Mari...I love the idea of a FWF get together. I live in Idaho, but given
enough time to plan, save, arrange, and get time off work, DH and I will be
there. It sounds like so much fun, count us in.
Viola...someone posted awhile back about using Murphys Oil Soap on their
machines to clean them up. I've used it, and it works great. I use some
diluted in water for a general cleaning, and then go back and use it
straight out of the bottle for really stubborn dirt. But be sure to rinse
it off really good. Then use good old Armorall to shine the little baby
up.
Julie...I don't think any of your questions were stupid, they made good
sense. I've sewn for 35 years and thought I knew all about sewing
machines. After reading this list, and learning so much, I realize how
ignorant I was. I learn something new nearly every day.
Teri Dougherty...When I read your post about your 185k I had no idea what
it was, but now after looking it up in my nifty new Manual, I think it
looks totally cool. I want one too!
I read the posting about the Women's Institute of Domestic Arts &Sciences
of Scranton. PA with great interest, it helped me to decide on whether to
go back and make an offer to an antique dealer for a set of 14 books by the
above Inst That I had seen a couple of months back. They were so neat, but
it was a hard decision to make. So I went back, she accepted the offer,
and the books are so interesting. They cover subjects from Home Sewing, to
Sewing Materials, to Sewing for Profit. Plus everything in between. Even
Home Laundry and Dry Cleaning.
A couple of months back I wrote and grumbled about never finding anything
of interest in the antique stores I was haunting..well since then I have
had wonderful luck so I guess all it takes is a bad attitude and a few
complaints. I've gotten a Singer bank, red, 3" x 31/2". A Singer Pinker
[hand crank], a Singercraft fringe maker [which really makes me laugh, what
would you do with all that fringe?] 3 oil cans, none of which is the
coveted oval, but they are Singer oil cans, and a tube of lubricant in the
original green box. I make it a point to ask each dealer for any sewing
machines and/or sewing "stuff". They are starting to remember me, and one
has said that one of the other dealers will be bringing a machine in soon
in a bentwood box. I think you really have to be persistent with these
dealers and let them know that there really are people who are interested
in these things and will pay money for them.
I'm anxiously waiting for DH to return home tomorrow night from visiting
family in Washington, he will be bringing me 4, yes FOUR, sewing machines.
The 301 I bought for $15.00, the 99 my SIL gave me, my grandmothers New
Home treadle machine, and an unknown that my folks found for me at a flea
market. It's like Christmas in July.
Thanks again Sue for this great way to communicate with other SM junkies.
Mary in Idaho
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 08:02:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: cibolo@connecti.com
Subject: Tea / Manual for 99
To Graham - You are right that there is no tea anywhere as good at the hot
tea in the British Isles. . . because you have such perfect hot tea weather.
However, hope you get to Texas on your upcoming trip and try our iced tea
with lemon. It's a real treat when the temp is at 100 degrees F. Hope you
enjoy your upcoming trip. . . don't know about your video question. . . .
To Venitta - There was a post a few days ago from Chris Vagtborg
(71155.1072@CompuServe.COM) that he had copies of manuals and had some parts
for 99's. Hope this helps.
Wilma
cibolo@connecti.com
Date: 5 Jul 1996 12:57:02 +0000
From: "Lehrhoff Mary MSM SUPH US"
Subject: Stuff (Response to 7/4/96 - 9:31 PM)
To Jeanette Holkner:
I'll try later if I get a chance to check on your machines. I'm not sure if
they will even be open. I unfortunately am at work. Usually, they only
will give you 2 at a time, sometimes if you're lucky more...I'll post back
if I'm successful.
Don't you ever get nice weather?
To Elaine:
I guess most of us with DHs have the problem of creative hiding places.
Last night, I was quilting on my Newer Machine that DH had purchased for me
when he appeared in my sewing room (basement). He doesn't usually do this,
I suspect he subconsciously feels it will become a stressful thing for him
to do (you know, be like the monkeys: see no evil,....)I caught my breath
because I had just brought down the 301 from Mom's room, and there it was,
just sitting on the 201 cabinet, bold as brass, along with the newly
acquired 24 also on the 201....the Spartan was very visible in the
background.....and a FeatherWeight on the floor open....that was a total of
6 machines Easily Visible. But, I don't think he even noticed them. He
didn't even blink! He never goes into the other part of the basement where
there are a lot more......
Last night, I was talking to another FWF who said she's so happy she doesn't
have to worry about doing those evasive action things, like hiding your
stash, etc....We certainly pay a high price to have our DHs, but they must
be worth it, otherwise, why would we do it? My DH is basically a No
Possessions type of person...he could probably pack in a half hour and be
ready to go...his Big Thing is his boat and all the stuff for the boat. He
has minimal clothes, no other hobbies (except phones). It's true, I think
that opposites marry/mate/get-to-gether...what ever you want to call it. He
likes it hot and I don't. I adore reading, he hates it. Antiquing and Flea
Markets and Estate Sales are on the Top of my Hit Parade. If he can be
persuaded to even go, anytime after about 32 seconds, he says "are you ready
to go?"..... Sigh...I wonder why that is?
To Venitta:
If you send me your address, I'll send you a copy of the 99 manual. I have
a multi-generational copy of a 50's 99, but I have manuals for 1920, 1925
machines that I could get clearer copies on. You tell me which you prefer.
If you get back to me today, I will mail it from work, as I happen to have
a spare copy here....all I ask is if you would send me back the stamps it
takes to send it to you. The copy is nice &clear. There are a few letters
obscured on the far left on some of the pages, but I don't think it will be
a problem. If it is, let me know and I'll bring the manual into work and
copy over any pages as you need. My at home email is: McLehr@AOL.com. I
usually keep the manuals at home and am working on a small stock of copies
for whenever anyone is in need.
To Julie:
I don't know or remember if anyone told you to buy Nancy Johnson-Sbero's
little book, the Perfect Portable. It's about $7 in most sewing &quilt
stores, but check before going. Also, it can be gotten from Silver Star
Publishing at RR4, Box 413, Tunkhannock, PA 18657 (717) 836-5592. It was
done in 1992 and she does have a new one coming out. IT was supposed to be
out in April, but now it's up to November....sigh...
To Carollee in California:
About your question as to why is it that quilters are so versatile...I think
it's a primary prerequisite that comes with quilting...patchwork,
innovation, new things/old things/all things...like people who become
investigators are interested in things, they notice things, etc...as opposed
to people who just plod along day in and day out, happy in their 2
dimensional world of Know-Nothing...it's different strokes for different
folks, I guess...One's Delight is another's Horror..and so forth....live and
let live....when those who "don't understand the internet" decide they want
to know what's going on and see what they're missing, those of them who do
come to this passage, they will....just like those who won't...it's the way
of the World....
To Kathy:
So, you didn't buy the FeatherWeight, did you? I wasn't sure in reading
your note if you got that without the table...if you bought the FW and not
the table,if I were you, I would run right back and get that table....I've
been looking and looking and have never even seen one, let alone have an
opportunity to BUY one!!!
To Viola:
Try using Sewing Machine Oil...that usually works for me...I'm not an expert
on the more hardworking things, but I'm sure that other FWFs will send you
suggestions...
To Graham:
Where have you been going? Even in America, I have never been subjected to
the kind of Tea Behaviour that you have described, you poor, poor man...I do
prefer the tea I brew at home, naturally, but one can get an acceptable
cuppa out, too. Usually, depending on where I go, there could be an
assortment of Tea Bags to chose from (Earl Grey? English Breakfast) but not
all establishments have this...nearly anyone will have at least decent black
pekoe to inbibe and enjoy. A cup and saucer with HOT water is a must and I
have to say, it IS the norm. Perhaps you were in a Hasidic or Russian
establishment....they are the only ones I've seen who drink their tea in a
glass, but I've yet to find any who would give it to you in anything other
than hot, if not totally steaming hot water....yuk... I'm not sure about
the etiquette of a saucer with a glass, but perhaps it would be omitted in
those circumstances.....my cup ALWAYS has a saucer. Most often, a small pot
with the hot water and choice of tea bag to brew in the bot accompanies the
cup &saucer.
I have a pal from Birmingham who would take over my beer after I had the 1st
half and it had sufficiently warmed up enough to suit her...taste..(UGH!!!)
Like they say, different strokes...but warm beer is truly disgusting to me,
anyway! I like (this is a Family Saying) Hot Things Hot &Cold Things Cold.
Lukewarm is repulsive.
Good luck in the future. But I feel safe in saying that should we get this
FWF convention/meeting off the ground into fruition, Everyone there will be
sure to maintain the integrity of your tea....and PS: I love and adore iced
tea. In summer, it is my only Drink of Choice since 12 Step Programs have
entered our lives....altho' I still haven't found a Program for SMs and
FWFs....
To Bobbie:
That 431G I mentioned I'm picking up on Saturday is a FREE ARM...I don't
think I mentioned it to you when we were talking......I'm still trying to
get that Elna Lotus...my pal Richard is trying to get the owner's
permission......toodles....Mary
To Anyone:
No one is here at work, and I certainly don't want to be....I got a little
carried away, I hope I didn't bore anyone...in which case I hope Sue trimmed
my ramblings....toodles to all FWFs...may the Hunt Go On and on and on and
on......Happy Feathers! Mary in New Jersey where is supposed to be so
beautiful today my DH took off to go fishing! Sigh, and me at work, sigh...
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 1996 09:15:56 -0800
From: "James M. Welch"
Subject: thanks and tea=
My thanks also go to Bobbie and Graham. I am enjoying the manual
immensely!!!!
Graham, the tea story was great! I had to laugh, my grandmother was a
Scot and everytime we went to a restaurant, she would instruct the
waitress on how to make her tea. Very nicely of course, but she got her
point across. I also have a friend Betty who is a Scot, she just refuses
to drink tea unless she or someone she knows makes it!
Debbie in NJ
From: Marie Lee
Subject:
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 07:32:17 -0800
I am looking for a featherweight machine to purchase. If anyone knows of
one, please contact me. Thanks. My email address is mlee@matnet.com.
Marie Lee
PO Box 1046
Palmer,Alaska 99645
Date: 05 Jul 1996 10:31:10 PST
From: "Diana Lee"
Subject: FW Fanatics 7/3/96
Hi Mari and Gretchen and others in No. California - I am also very interested
in a FWF convention. At least six of my sewing buddies have fwts too and would
all love to come and hopefully meet Graham and Maggie (thanks, Graham for all
the wonderful stories and info!) Most of us live in San Francisco (I work in
ththe east bay). I'd also like to offer my services to help with pulling the
meeting together!
Thanks again, Sue, for running such a great list.
Many thanks to Bobbie and Graham for making the manual available to us.
Featherweight owners unite!!!
Date: 5 Jul 1996 18:44:57 +0000
From: "Lehrhoff Mary MSM SUPH US"
Subject: Data
This is the Data Sheet I received a good number of years ago from Singer
when I first called about my 1st (of many, but then, who knew) Singers, and
etc.
Registry Numbers Quan. Allowed Machines
Date Allotted
_________________________________________________________________________
7467600 to 7517599 50,000 No. 2 V.S. Machine 1/18/1887
7517600 to 7567500 50,000 I.M. Machines 1/25/1887
7567600 to 7587599 20,000 685000 to 704999 2/7/1887
I.F. Machines (Montreal)
7587600 to 7588599 1,000 Cylinder Machines 2/9/1887
7588600 to 7618599 30,000 Medium Machines 3/8/1887
(Kilbowie)
(Out of the nos. reserved for Medium Machines, Aug. 1883, from which were
taken June 24, 1886, 500 nos. for Overseaming Machines leaving unused nos.
from 5972100 to 5980999..these wer all set apart Apr. 22, 1887 for 8,900
Overseaming Machiens
7618600 to 7718599 100,000 5070000 to 5169999 7/13/1887
(In furnishing us the V.S. #1 Machine, 1300 unused nos. of the High Arm
Machine were used, viz., from 6348700 to 6349999 so that the number on
machines although the last made have the lowest Register No. and make in all
62,300 nos., that were taken from High Arm Machines of Aug. 5, 1884 for V.S.
#1 M/cs.
(There has been built 212,3000 V.S. #1 Machines in Elizabeth Factory)
7718600 to 7719899 1,300 Automatic Chain 9/13/1887
Stitch Machine
7719900 to 7719999 100 "Flying Dutchman" 9/13/1887
7720000 to 7424999 5,000 V.S. Machines 9/13/1887
7725000 to 7754999 30,000 Med. Machines (Kilbowie)
10/12/1887
7775000 to 7794999 20,000 Med. Machines (Kilbowie) 12/7/1887
7795000 to 7844999 50,000 705000 to 754999 12/7/1887
I.F. Machines (Kilbowie)
7845000 to 7894999 50,000 5170000 to 5219999 12/7/1887
New Family Machines
(Kilbowie)
Hope this proves to be of use. Best, Mary
My serial number is: 7466998 (they drew a circle around the 4th digit, the
second 6 and highlighted the very first row.
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 13:52:16 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Karen Phelps - (319) 335-1688"
Subject: Misc.=
Hi, everyone!!
I haven't written for a while so thought I would just drop a note to
publicly thank Bobbie not just for doing all she is doing,
but for her attitude and the warmth she shares with us all. I got my
info and am thrilled. Graham and Bobbie make a great committee!!!
Next item is business!! I am still looking for a knee lever for my 128.
Does anyone have an old, new, reproduced, whatever, knee lever? I've
followed a couple of leads, but to no avail.
Karen
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 15:19:25 -0400
From: Kilda@aol.com
Subject: Tea and ??
Yes Graham,
You do make a valid point about a proper cup of tea. However, back in the
dark ages, when I was very young, I was lucky enough to spend three years in
Melbourne. Unless things have changed greatly, I suggest that you do not
try for a cup of coffee in Australia. It appeared to me that the only thing
they knew how to do was make a cup of lukewarm instant coffee. With apolgies
to all the instant coffee drinkers, that's not coffee.
Flo in Glen Rock
From: THHY72A@prodigy.com (MRS CHRISTINE DEITCHLEY)
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 1996 18:02:07, -0500
Subject: I found....
I hit the jackpot last weekend and bought 3 machines within 24 hours!
First I went to a local vacuum cleaner and sewing machine dealer to see if
he had anything different from my last visit. He showed me the same
machine I had seen 8 months ago when I was looking for a model 15 to
replace one that had been stolen. (Happily, that "baby" was one of the
very few items that were recovered, and she is safely home with me.)
On that first visit I had asked if he had any old Singers and he
showed me a strange looking model I had never seen before. It was a black,
boxy, 1950's looking machine with an odd mechanism that appeared to be a
stitch width regulator, and also a small "cam" with a silver knob-like
thing, both on the upper right front of the machine head. Although it
certainly looked quite different from what I'm used to seeing, I knew
immediately that this was a zig-zag machine and I assumed an early version
of zig-zag at that. This yahoo didn't KNOW it was a zigzag machine! I told
him and showed how the stitch width regulator worked and got the thing to
sew a few zig-zag stitches to show him! But since I was only interested in
a 15 at that time I passed it by. This time I again asked for any old
Singers and he lead the way to this same strange machine. He proudly says,
"Now this is an early Zig-zag machine....." (Wonder how he knew that?) I
decided to check the thing over just because it was such an ugly dinosaur
of a machine, I was curious about it. Well, the thing was cruddy and
dirty, everything was working but very sluggishly. I told him it really
doesn't work very well, asked some questions he couldn't answer, and he
admitted his real "expertise" is in vacuums and he has a friend in Florida
that he calls when he has questions about sewing machines and the guy tells
him over the phone what is wrong with the machine. He squirted some WD40
on the moving parts and got her moving a little better. I decided to take
the poor homely thing home. (At a much reduced price of course.) So for
$30.00 and a lot of elbow grease and WD40, I cleaned her up and she's not
nearly so ugly now that she shines and stitches smoothly.
So the next big question was, what IS SHE? I called Singer with her
SN--W1557621. Singer said they didn't have info on the model #, but what
info they had indicated it was made in Bridgeport, Conn. Nov. 10, 1911 !!!
"Impossible!" says I, "its an electric, 50's style Zig-zag!". Well, I
believe the mystery has been solved, thanks to Graham and Bobbie's efforts
on our behalf. The mystery machine appears to be a 306K. Anyone else have
one of these or any info about them? She is certainly a strange duck,
perhaps I'll call her "Daffy". ;)
Next I went to the Salvation Army. They had 4 machines, which is
quite unusual. I rarely find ANY there! Only one piqued my interest. It
was a nice looking tan straight stitch machine that sounded like she just
needed a good oiling. Cabinet and all...$28.00. She cleaned up
beautifully and sews very nicely. Singer declared her a 404, Feb. 1958.
When I called Margel, (my partner in business, and my friendly
rival in sewing machine acquisitions) to brag about my finds, she alerted
me to a lovely 401a she had seen that day. She knew I've been looking for
one and decided to give me first opportunity. (A true friend!) So, guess
what came home with me the next morning? A beautiful 401a, completely
reconditioned and 1 year warranty, from a dealer who knows his sewing
machines! It came with a lot of extra cams, accessories, and even some old
Singer screwdrivers, not original to this machine. ($200.00 - not a steal,
but I felt a fair price for both of us.)
Margel's post yesterday also alerted me to the darning attachment
at a local antique shop. Went there, got that! I came home and used it
to mend two holes in my son's socks. Neat! Was quick and fun! I do NOT
however, wish to start a business darning socks, so don't ask!
...............Chris, in South Bend, IN on an absolutely beautiful summer
day....so why aren't I outside?
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Date: Sun, 7 Jul 96 21:45:36 -0500
From: Featherweight Fanatics
Subject: FW Fanatics 7/6/96
To: Sue@quilt.com
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Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 01:51:05 -0700
From: Bobbie
Subject: NEWS FLASH! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! MUST READ THIS ONE
Hello all....and boy am I dancing and excited.............and can hardly
control myself enough
to type this News!
Several months ago......I began a search. I was trying to find a certain
man.....he was an author, and
over 60....so I kept praying that he was "still around". After many miles
in my Thunderbird [which by the
way, the air conditioning went out in, back in March] all over Arizona, I
FOUND THE MAN I WAS LOOKING
FOR......[gotta keep you in just a little more suspense here (giggle)]
We talked, and I told him why I sought him out. FINALLY, TODAY, it's all
come together.
This man's name is William Ewers [ohhhh...I can hear some of you
already]...and years ago, he had
a Sewing Machine Dealership {Singer of course} in Phoenix, Arizona. Now,
some you already have
probably put the name with the book.....Bill wrote the three books:
Sincere's Sewing Machine Service book, Sincere's Zig Zag Sewing Machine
Service book, and the
Sincere's History of the Sewing Machine.
My reason for finding Mr. Ewers, was because I wanted to know if he would
republish his book, which
has been out of print since the late 70's. See.....his books are about the
OLD SEWING Machines, which
means, his books will never be OUTDATED. Because there is not technological
upgrades to our
wonderful, old machines....Mr. Ewer's information will always be like a
"Bible" to those of us who have
these marvelous machines.
Well.............today the mailman brought, what Bill Ewers promised me when
I last spoke with him. His letter,
giving ME unrestricted authority to REPUBLISH these GREAT books. Ladies and
Gentlemen...........I AM
EXCITED....almost as excited as the day I "found" my first 2 FW's.
I will be spending this next week, figuring out costs, etc. for this
adventure. What I would like to know,
by pvt email, is how many of you will be interested in having 1, 2, or all 3
of these books. I ask this, to give
me an idea of what sort of demand will be out there.
If you have never seen these three books, or even the History of The Sewing
Machine book, by all means,
RUN, DON'T WALK to your nearest library and check it out.
It's because of these books, I am able and confident enough to take apart my
entire machine, and clean, oil,
check for wear, etc., and put it back together again......you just can't do
it wrong with Bill Ewer's diagrams,
instructions, etc. And the stories in this book......It's all a great part
of history.
Goodness....I've rambled. I do look forward to hearing from ya'll.......
Once again, need I tell you......I'm THRILLED.
----------------------------------------=Bobbie=----------------------------
-------------------------------------
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 06:45:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: dwickell@CITCOM.NET (Janet Wickell)
Subject: 99K
Hi All,
My sister just recently bought her first featherweight, so would like to
sell her 99K. The serial number is EJ712241, and all of the trim is in good
shape. The case is a bit frayed around the edges, but is intact. She bought
it a few years ago, from a dealer who specializes in FW's and other such
machines. It had been thoroughly serviced, and it sews a great seam. No
instruction book.
If interested, e-mail: D.Stidman@genie.com
her name is Donna Stidman
Janet
Date: 06 Jul 96 08:58:36 EDT
From: Graham Forsdyke <100661.3256@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Contribution
To Lois re ignorant salespeople
I'm not in the retail sewing machine business but I know enough folk who are
and
their answer would be that because of the competition in the industry (cheapo
machines from WallMart etc) their profit margins have been cut dramatically in
recent years. Therefore, they cannot afford to employ top-flight sales teams,
send them on courses etc. The same isn't true with computers because there is
an
army of school leavers desperate for jobs who know more about the product than
the manufacturer does.
Plus we must admit that the domestic sewing machine industry is in decline
whilst the 'puter business is on the up.
I can only comment for Europe but 30 years ago every schoolgirl was taught
sewing at school (a little sexist perhaps). Now no schools have machines, but
boy, do they have computers. The result is a steadily dwindling domestic
sewing
machine market --- and ignorant salespeople.
To Karen (SadieRose)
Liked the murder story. I will lift it and use in ISMACS News. Thanks.
Lisa: re boiling water
Lisa, you're a cynic -- welcome to the club.
Debra: re tea making and outages.
Your tea-making system is close to perfect. Will put an X on Cleveland on my
map
of the USA which shows where I can get a decent cup of tea. That's three Xs
already!
I don't drink coffee but Maggie is firmly of the opinion that the overall
strength of the product as served in the USA reduces by about 10% each year.
Graham Forsdyke
ISMACS London
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 11:56:11 -0400
From: SewJude@aol.com
Subject: Betsy Ross
I don't remember who asked me this question, and I'm sorry it took me so
long to respond.
YES my electric Betty Ross had no speed control. It is either OFF or ON and
running.
From: Chris Vagtborg <71155.1072@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: post
**************************************************************
New Items for Featherweight Fanatics
HOT! HOT! - Even Feed Attachment - HOT! HOT!
Also known as a Walking Foot or Plaid Foot, this imported
attachment has been hand fitted to work on the 221. Special
introductory price for Featherweight Fanatics - $14.95 plus
$2.50 shipping and handling (USA). PN 451VN
For all... Special while they last -> New Genuine Leather
Treadle Belts <- regularly $6.50, only $5.00 for FWF
including postage. 72 inches long with clip. PN BLTSPCL
The "Lugged" Belt, is an improved motor belt for the FW. It
is more flexible than the standard singer belt and its lugged
surface provides more traction and prevents slipping. Your FW
will run faster and more smoothly with this belt. Special
price for FWF is $5 including SH (USA). PN 1712L
Metal Piecing and Quilting Foot, with 1/4 inch wide 'toes' on
both sides of the needle, this metal foot is superior to the
plastic "Little Foot". Special price for FWF is $14.95
including S/H. (USA). PN 35932
The Sewing Machine Blue Book, 1996/97 edition, is published
by Bobette Industries. This is a Wholesale Value book
published to help dealers appraise the value of used home
sewing machines and sergers. Bobette has been publishing this
booklet for over 25 years. The prices are derived from
surveys, auctions, and visits to dealers' shops. This 88 page
booklet covers 29 domestic sewing machine manufacturers and
18 serger manufacturers. There is an extensive section on
Singer machines, covering models built from 1899 to 1996.
Price for FWF is $19.95, plus $1 SH (USA). PN BLUE BOOK
Chris @ Stepping Stones Quilts, PO Box 21811, St. Simons Is.,
GA 31522 - 912-638-7128.
**************************************************************
Date: 06 Jul 96 15:01:28 EDT
From: Chris Vagtborg <71155.1072@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: post2
Hi All...
For Graham... Sealed bearings would be just the ticket for a sewing machine
motor - intermittent use. Not so great for motors that are in constant use...
For June... I can get you a new 301 Bobbin Case for $59.25 plus $2.50
shipping. Or, just the latch for $10 and the screw for $1.50. Add $2.50 for
shipping...
Bye for now!
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 16:01:22 -0700
From: theworks@injersey.com
Subject: featherweight
I just found this page and I just bought a used featherweight and would
like to know if anyone knows how I should try to clean the outside? It is
not shining and has a dull finish and I would like to clean it up. Any
suggestion? Thanks, Judy
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 14:45:52 -0700
From: Bobbie
Subject: WOW! go check this out
>
>If you haven't already seen it, by all means, check out:
>
> http://www.jinnybeyer.com/
>
>It's Jinny Beyer's WebPage, and it's GREAT
>
>Check out the new Christmas fabrics!!!!!
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:56:07 -0400
From: GWillie37@aol.com
Subject: Tan 221K5 FW For Sale
I have a beautiful condition tan 221K5 FW I wish to sell. It has the original
case, attachments, manual, bobbins and has just been serviced. There are no
scratches, missing paint or any mechanical problems. The two tone brown case
is in excellent condition too. I offer a satisfaction guarantee or complete
refund. The price is $450 + shipping from Florida. Let me know if interested
and want further details. Glenn Williams gwillie37@aol.com
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 17:01:16 -0500
From: sassybb@siu.edu (Frances Walker)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/5/96
.
My DH is basically a No
>Possessions type of person...he could probably pack in a half hour and be
>ready to go...his Big Thing is his boat and all the stuff for the boat. He
>has minimal clothes, no other hobbies (except phones). It's true, I think
>that opposites marry/mate/get-to-gether...what ever you want to call it. He
>likes it hot and I don't. I adore reading, he hates it. Antiquing and Flea
>Markets and Estate Sales are on the Top of my Hit Parade. If he can be
>persuaded to even go, anytime after about 32 seconds, he says "are you ready
>to go?"..... Sigh...I wonder why that is?
>
Be careful what you wish for - you may get it! I don't know how old your DH
is (mine will be 61 next week), but let me warn you, they can change on
you. Ten years ago I couldn't get mine into an antique shop either. Then
one day at a flea market I had dragged (or drug) him to, he found a camera
"just like" one he had as a kid for $2. That started it. Now he has more
than 200 - NOT all like he has as a boy and NOT all for $2 each.
Last week we were visited by his cousin Al from Texas. Our daughter Judy,
who also is a FWF (SewJude@aol.com) posted about him, so I won't go into
that again. Al and I talked SMs and he adjusted my FW (an anniversary model
made in Elizabethport NJ Aug. 22, 1950) another FWF friend
(puck@midwest.net) who is a dealer came over with his FW, and a quilter
friend with an unknown Singer with a shuttle bobbin we never did get to
work. There was a lot of SM talk going on, so now the DH is interested as
well. He just called me from some antique mall in NC to say that he had
found a Singer in a bentwood case for $60, should he buy that? and a FW for
$350 in what he thought was excellent condition, case a bit worn but it had
the tray, "all??" the attachments, extra bobbins, scrollwork faceplate, but
he had no idea if it would sew. He said the serial number was SIMANCO
45713. I told him that wasn't possible and where to look for the real
number. He knew I could tell how old it was from Nancy's book if he had the
number. He said he'd go back and look. I thought the price was a bit high
but called Judy to see if she was interested. While I was talking to her,
he called back on the business phone to say that it was AF173353 and he
really thought I wanted it. A quick check showed it was made in 1938, so I
agreed that I did and told him he could have my other one. He's going to
have to learn to sew. He said he ran a piece of paper through it and the
needle went up and down and it "sounded ok." I can't want for him to get
back so I can see what kind of pig-in-a-poke we've bought. Judy said she
wouldn't fight me for it because she'll get it eventually anyway.
Frances at Sassafras Ridge in Southern Illinois
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 17:19:22 -0500
From: Carol Austin
Subject: Frogs
Well fellow Feathers, I've come to the conclusion that you have to
kiss a lot of frogs before you find your prince!! I've been happily looking
for sewing machines, especially a 99, 201 and a treadle but certainly have
not found the wonderful bargains and machines that a lot of you have found.
Not that I am jealous; I enjoy reading what everyone is seeing and finding,
wellll maybe a little.
I found a 6 or 7 Featherweight at a flea market in Choteau, Ok. with lots of
attachments, buttonhole attach. and manual for $350. It had the lift out
tray but no case. I found a 201 hand crank model EH221210 in a bentwood
case (med. condition) with Egyptian style gold but it was $200. Then last
night I visited with a couple who sell old machines. She had a couple of
Singer treadles, oak cabinets in excellent shape each with 6 drawers and a
middle drawer and heads in med. shape. One had the long shuttle with the
Sphinx gold decoration and the other with a drop in bobbin. They were $175.
and $195. I'm tempted because I wouldn't have to do any refinishing or much
work. I'm waiting until Monday to call Singer about the SN. One is
G5276581 and the other is 3145181. She also had a beautiful blonde bird's
eye maple treadle cabinet with 7 drawers. Very beautiful wood and she said
a Singer head with lots of red roses (didn't see the head). She wanted
$3,000. Yes, you read that right, and I gracefully declined. I was in
Tulsa Wednesday and talked to a man there who has a 222K (freearm) for $1200
and a tan (he called it brown) 221 for $400. They were both in another
location so didn't see them.
To the person who lives in Okla. and was planning on looking in AR for
machines --- would you email me? Maybe we could meet and talk about FWF or
have lunch. I live in Rogers. Is that near where you will be?
To Graham and Bobbie -- I appreciate very much your efforts and time to
provide us with the sewing machine manual. It has been such fun to read
and re-read. This is a wonderful group with such generosity and a spirit of
knowledge and fun. I'm all for a FWF get together but CA is not the only
place we could meet. How about a more central area? However, I will
certainly try to go where everyone decides.
Carol, in Rogers, AR. who would provide an excellent cuppa for any FWF,
English or otherwise.
Carol McNiece Austin
From: lengle@newnorth.net (Laurie R. Engle)
Subject: Found one!!
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 22:38:59 GMT
Hi, all--just got back from a weeklong vacation of sorts to Georgia. My DH
found
an old '66 Ford pickup truck down there and we went to pick it up. He got his
antique--and I found mine as well. My very first Featherweight!
I decided on a whim to check out a sewing machine shop in Albany, Georgia. Most
of the time I hear that FWs are few and far between and they usually go for
huge
amounts of money. I asked at the counter and the woman told me no, they didn't
have any right now. I looked around a little and looked at the row of old
machines on display and was getting back in my car, when she came running out
to
tell me that the owner did have one in the back after all and would I like to
look at it?
Turns out the owner, Harry, was collecting them for his granddaughters but he
wanted to find them in mint condition only. He had one for 200 dollars,
probably
only about a condition seven, but in good working order. She's mine!! Serial
number AM16303, born June 1, 1955. I probably won't ever find one in MY birth
year but my DH was born in '55, so that's close enough . I am SO excited!
Also included was all of the attachments in the green cardboard box, a complete
like-new buttonholer in the green plastic box, and a manual in very good
condition. And she sews beautifiully.
I don't even mind that it wasn't a $20 find--I had set a personal limit of $200
for a FW.
Laurie
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:39:24 -0400
From: yes@lansol.net
Subject: Cream tea
To Graham: One of the finest moments of my life was in London in 1973
when I was taken to the home of a friend of my "mum's" in Knightsbridge
for a cream tea. Until tasting Devonshire clotted cream I had never lived
a full life.
Thanks to you and Bobbie for a great book.
Nancy Wickes
From: lengle@newnorth.net (Laurie R. Engle)
Subject: Buttonholer for sale or trade
Date: Fri, 05 Jul 1996 22:39:05 GMT
I have a buttonholer for a FW in the black plastic case. It has 5 cams. but is
missing the throatplate cover. Don't quote me on this, but I THINK you can
still
order a throatplate cover. The paint on the buttonholer is chipped, but it does
work well.
I paid eight dollars for it. I'd like to get that amount (plus shipping) or I'd
like to trade it towards a zigzagger to fit my old Singers, or towards a set of
feet to fit my 99k. (Or if you have anything else that might fit a 99k, a model
15, or a FW) Email me directly at lengle@newnorth.net
Laurie
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 19:30:47 -0400
From: TJanson280@aol.com
Subject: Do I have a 28K???
Hi FWF's,
I just returned from an antique show today and got what I think is a Singer
28K model.
I looked at the pictures in my WONDERFUL manual that I recieved from Graham
and Bobbie, and it looks just like it. The thing I am wondering about is
that the bed meaures only 12" instead of 12 1/2" as stated under the picture.
Also it says that the bobbin is "Low" winding, but the picture shows it
"high". Anyway, my machine looks just the one pictured. It has grape leaves
in green with a background of red and surrounded with a gold motif. This
design is all over the head. The face plate is embossed with a grape vine
with grapes hanging off of it. It is a very beautiful machine.
The case is a "bentwood" that looks like the one pictured on page 8 in the
manul for the 15K. The handle is exactly like that. Does this sound like I
have a 28K? This machine is also electric with a foot pedal. The serial
number is G7971100. There is a metal lid just under the fly wheel in the
base that lifts off to expose the attachment box. I got all of the
attachments too. I paid $40. I feel I got a very good deal. It sews
wonderfully too. The only thing I need is the sliding throat plate for the
front half. The back half is not missing. I think I read in an earlier
digest that "Chris from Stepping Stones Quilts" may have these available????
Oh, one more thing...this has the long bobbin that slides back and forth.
I also was able to get a 99K. It is a very nice machine. It looks just like
a big sister to the FW. I think the attachments are interchangable with the
FW. Yes?? I will try it out later. The man I got this one from also was a
collector and had 30 or so toy machines and a Jones hand crank for $395. He
was so interesting to talk to. Also had the Singer pinking attachment for
$45. I just *happened* to have a couple of copies of the FWF digest and ran
back to the car and gave them to him (I can always reprint them for myself).
I knew he would enjoy them. Maybe he will join our group. He said he has
seen Graham speak at one of the meetings in London a while back. He said you
were very interesting, Graham and you spoke until your voice was hoarse!!
:))
Well, sorry to carry on so long. I would appreciate it if anyone can
clairify my model 28K and tell me if I can get a throat plate for it.
I am sooo excited. Well better go..I want to play with my 2 new machines!!!
Terri Janson in Michigan where summer has returned and my SM addition is
getting worse.
Date: Sat, 06 Jul 1996 19:35:04 -0400
From: Larry Doyle
Subject: FW for sale
Hi Folks, I have a FW for sale,manufactured April 22,1947The condition is
probable an 8 for the machine and a 7 for the case.The machine has all
decals in tact normal to little wear on the bed for the age,the face plate
is scrolled not striped.foot petle is original and an 8.There is no manual
or attachments.Any realistis offer considered.
From: Barbara Lee Gates =
Subject: Zigzagger on FW
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 16:40:56 -0500=
I tried to get this message out a few days ago when someone asked about
the zigzag attachment "hurting" the FW, but the mail was acting up and =
it=20
didn't go..... anyway, on my old FW (the one my mother bought in 1937) =
you=20
can see back and forth scratches in front of the needle plate on the =
black paint where I surmised the zigzagger was going back and forth. =
Don't=20
think the buttonholer did it, but it could have.
BTW, have read many comments about using the buttonholer base plate for=20
free motion sewing on the FW since the feed dogs do not lower -- I have
a triangular (sorta) black plate that attaches to the machine bed with =
one
screw, to cover the feed dogs. It is Simanco #121309, and mentioned in =
Mary Brooks Picken book on p 114. I wonder if it is still manufactured?
Barbara in STILL hot and dry East Texas -- the pine trees are dying!
Date: 06 Jul 96 20:13:30 EDT
From: Graham Forsdyke <100661.3256@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Contribution
To Mary re cuppas
Please let me know which part of which town in which State you got the decent
cup of tea. Over the part 20 years I've been keeping a map of America with
little flags for good cuppa stops. I'd just love to get that fourth flag up on
it. You tell me that in decent establishments you are bought steaming hot
water
and a choice of tea bags to brew. Too late. The water has to hit the tea bag
boiling.
The reason we drink warm beer is so that we can taste the ingredients. And, as
it's a man's drink -- ie stronger than lemonade -- we have to limit ourselves
a
little. That should start something!!
What's a 12-step program". Some sorta fairly-limited exercise schedule?.
To Wilma re cuppas
I'm likely to be in Texas this trip -- trying to get to see Frank Smith and his
Sewing Machine Museum (the only one in America) in Arlington and will test this
iced tea with lemon thing and report back. BTW (see, I'm learning) Frank built
the biggest ever sewing machine for his town's July 4 parade. Sized to fit on
the back of a truck.
The crack about the weather was unfair.
To Debbie and all the others who support my cuppa campaign:
Thanks. I take milk and two suggar.
To Flo in Glen Rock
Thanks for the warning about tea and coffee in Australia. We have a trip
planned for next year but fortunately our best buddies out there are ex-pat
British.
To Chris in South Bend actually on a sewing machine related subject:
Your know-nothing dealer whose expertise is in vacuum cleaners is not unusual
in
the States. America is just about the only country where the two domestic
appliances go hand in hand and every dealer seems to be an expert on one at the
expense of the other.. In Europe if you went into a sewing machine outlet and
asked about a vac it would be the same as doing into a butcher and asking for
an
air-line ticket.
To all those I'd hoped to meet on the chat line. Sorry, my 'puter gives up
every
time about 20 minutes into trying to download the softwear.
Gragham Forsdyke
ISMACS London
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 20:46:39 -0400
From: Fritz906@aol.com=
Subject: Knee Control
Ok Well I had a great 4th, it got awfully hot , so came
in from the cabin at the lake, I took off, to my favorite Antique &junk
shops, air conditioned !, found the most wonderful shop, she had 6 nice old
machines , I got a green Singer made in Great Britian, I'm not sure what it
is, I found 185-K on it it's small but heavy , reminds me of a 301, the way
it sews, very nice , the lady let me have it for $30. with a blond cabinet,
She had a Slant-omatic too with 2 books I really wanted it , may go back &
get it ,I kept hunting !She had a nice White Treadle I wanted , but passed. I
found a 127 I think in a Bent wood case , left it there,Boo, Hoo.
Got another real nice 99 instead,In A leather &Oilcloth case very nice
couldn't resist it. I asked her if she had anymore, she said" no" , so I
started to leave, and decided to make one more pass,and am I glad I did!,
found a small case under a table in the back , it is like a bentwood, only it
made of some kind of leather looks like Bull hide, I opened it up &there was
the nices little machnie inside, very small, like a featherweight, light ,
it'sBlk, looks like a 99, but smaller, it says made in Occipied Japan,
#3509935A, the motor says BELL Universal Forward 1/15 HP L. A. Calif. The
case is in good shape , the machine is too but it;s locked up, at the moment
, dad's working on it, the lady let me have it for $15.00 this machine may be
even lighter than the FW,it has a image of the US, an in the middle it says
HUB , USA Deluxe, I hope it sews nice, it's very pretty, This lady has
several nice machines at great prices, hope to go back soon .
I really, really! need a knee control for my 99 it's really nice &I can't
sew on it,BOO HOO, dose anyone have one ??? I'm still looking for a shuttle &
cloth plate ( fold up Plate ) for my 301 if anyone has any of these parts for
sale , please E-Mail me ( Fritz906)
Searchin , Searchin Sandy
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 20:54:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lydia Pratt
Subject: Notes before vacation=
To Graham: MIL = mother-in-law, SIL = sister-in-law, etc.
VBG = very big grin
LMTS = large mouthy teenage son (my own construction)
Don't feel bad -- it took me almost six months to figure out TIA!
As to herb/erb -- I haven't the faintest. Just start calling your onions
"allium" and your dill "anet" and your bee balm "monarda", and no one will
talk to you (except maybe Maggie) and it won't be a problem!
To Julie: The buttonholer has a flat plate that holds the fabric down onto
the machine bed and a pointy-thing (sorry, this is as technical as I get
at this time of night) that in fact moves the fabric back and forth to
create the satin stitch that borders the buttonhole. I know it sounds
downright strange after the way most built-in zig-zag machines work, but
if you see it work once you will understand completely. It also makes a very
loud clackety-clack sound, which is perfectly normal. But the first time
you hear it you expect the whole attachment to explode any second.
As several folks have mentioned, everyone starts with zero knowledge about
new things. Keep reading and keep asking. At work I mention tidbits that
I have picked up by reading this list, and now they think I'm an expert --
boy are they in for a surprise.
Lydia in wonderfully cool and sunny central Ohio, who is about to go on
vacation for a week.
_ _
Lydia Pratt |_|X|_|
Columbus, Ohio |X|*|X|
lspratt@freenet.columbus.oh.us |_|X|_|
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 18:45:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joyce Roberts
Subject: Re: FW For Sale
Here is an update on the current list of FW's for sale and Sew
Handy, plus a new 301 that came in. Shipping for FW's $30. and on all
shipping it includes handling, insurance for amount of sale, and extra
tracking. The 301 will cosst $35. to ship and the Sew Handy $15.
Sew Handy- Mint and of the 1950's issue, hand crank, case, clamp and
original manual. $200.
301 Black with geometric gold scrollwork, good condition, case, new
foot pedal cords, totally tuned and a perfect stitch. $225.
Featherweights
AG Case, copy of manual, a few attachments, wear on the machine $360.
AJ $450 Case Manual good condition, even wear, attachmnets.
AL $450, Case, Manual, good condtition, does have wear, attachments.
AM $550 Superior Condition, case is wonderful, manual attachments,
needles, and later edition goldwork in geometric pattern. If you need
further info call me @ 619-753-5418. Zsuxxa
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