Featherweight Fanatics Archives

June 1996

Sunday, June 2nd - Saturday, June 8th


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Date: Sun, 2 Jun 1996 05:42:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: More machines (of course!)

After a bad morning and afternoon (nothing at yard sales), I followed up on
an ad in the Want Ad Digest that advertised two portable Singers, one for
$50 and one for $35. When I called, I didn't get much info except to learn
that they were 20 years old and one had a broken case (I have to learn the
right questions to ask so I don't waste so much time hunting these things
down!). It was not far from where I had to pick up my son, so I decided I
might as well check it out and was I glad I did!! The machines turned out to
be a model 15-91 in a lovely bentwood case with a Centennial medallion with
its manual and attachments and lubricant in a box - very nice condition. And
the other was a model 500 - one machine I've been dying to find for a long
time!! It's in great shape, has its manual, attachments, even a cute little
cloth bag with Singer written on it to hold the foot pedal - the only bad
thing is that both latches are off the top of the case, but I imagine I
should be able to find some (from some $5 yard sales machine if I'm lucky).
I offered them $75 for them both and brought them home. I'm so pleased with
them - I don't need another model 15, but this was in such good shape and
portable and a bentwood case that of course I couldn't resist. And I would
have been happy to pay $75 just for the model 500 by itself! I guess the
moral of this tale is to not take what people say about machines they're
selling too seriously - obviously both of these machines are much more than
20 years old and the woman who owned them was old enough to have owned them
since they were new. My husband suggested that maybe people thought no one
would be interested in machines any older than 20 years - they don't know me
very well, do they?? Anyways, I've learned to check out machines before
dismissing them - you never know what you'll find! This hunting is such fun!
And I'm so grateful to all the women who took such good care of their
machines over the years - so I could find such treasures now. Sue M.
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Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 19:12:45 -0400
Subject: 301's and Student's Manual

Just got back from Lucasville Ohio's triannual flea market.  Huge place.  But I 
only saw 7 machines there.  
Three 127's (only two in the treadle stand).  Two 534's (I think that's it---
the plastic ones.  One under the 
JCPenny name).  And two 301A's.  Both of which are now in my possesion.  Total 
investment for them both--$50.  
With a Greist zipper foot a gathering foot and several bobbins.  Some of them 
are rusted though.  One was once 
in a cabinet and still had the cabinet adapter attached.  It came with the 
separate power cord/foot control.  
The other came in a case (mildewed and rotting and the enamel is flaking as a 
result) with the combo power 
cord/foot control.  But I noticed that it had the socket for the separate 
pedal.  I tried them both using the 
cord that came with the other.  The conclusion is that the 301A machines seem 
to have been wired for use either 
with the separate power cord/foot control for cabinet use or the single cord 
for case use.  I think I'll call 
Singer and see what they tell me about these two machines.  I expect to get a 
"no info" answer since they are 
both 301A's and have the NA serial numbers.  Should be interesting to see what 
they say though.

With one of the machines (the one from the cabinet) there was a Singer 
Student's Manual of Machine Sewing.  
Copyright 1954 it says specially prepared for students in schools and colleges.  
The name Martha Millet is 
written on the front of the book.  One section is entitled "To Set the Needle 
Correctly" and tells which way 
the various machines should be threaded.

On the needle bar there is a slot that the needle actually fits in after it 
passes through the clamp.  The slot 
is either on the left or the right.  (On the newer machines I think on the 
back.???)  With slot on the left the 
flat side of the needle must face the right and the needle must be threaded 
left to right.  Models 15-30, 
15-86, 15-87, 15-96, 15-98, 66, 99, 101, 127, 128.

On the machines witht he slot at the right the flat side of the needle faces 
left and the needle is threaded 
right to left.  Models 15-88, 15-89, 15-90, 15-91, 201, 221, 301.  It is noted 
that the clamp on the 301 will 
not allow the needle to be inserted incorrectly.

This book lists the features of several models.  In the discription of the 15-
91 and 201-2 machines in says 
"The machine illustrated is the 15-91, while the deluxe rotary 201-2 Machine 
also posseses all the features 
mentioned."  While it doesn't go into great detail I assume that the 15-91 and 
201-2 where nearly identical.  
This certainly explains why I can tell no difference between my grandfather's 
15 and a picture of a 201!

Eventually this info is going to become part of my web page.  I just don't know 
if I'll get to it before I move 
or not so don't be too dissappointed if it isn't there for a while.

Jim
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Date: Mon, 03 Jun 96 20:37:28 -0400
Subject: (no subject)

Hi.  I just recently bought a Singer 221 at a yard sale. Want 
to know about them.  Please give me some info.  

I was really excited about my find when I was checking things 
out on the net.  I am new to this too.  Any information you 
could give me would be appreciated.
Thanks 

Jackie
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Date: Mon, 03 Jun 1996 20:55:30 -0400
Subject: Can someone identify this Singer?

Don't know if anyone can help, but I'll give it a try anyhoo . . . DW is 
interested in finding a featherweight and saw an interesting ad. A guy 
in California (we're in NJ) is selling a "black and chrome" Singer 
sewing machine for $100. Trouble is, he doesn't know what model it is. 
It's electric with a wooden case and stand. Says there's a plate 
signifying that it's a 100-anniversary edition ("1851*1951") and has a 
serial #AK489093. He thinks that it's pretty heavy, but it's hard to 
tell with it on the stand. Anyone have any idea what I'm dealing with?

Thanks,
Clay &Shelly
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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 21:07:17 -0400
Subject: White FW for Sale

Hi:

I've got a white (mint green) FW   in a green and white case for sale for
$345.00 plus shipping and insurance (usually about $25).

Condition of Machine:

Overall I'd rate the machine a 7.  There are some light scratches on the top
surface of the bed extension and some darker scratches in front and to the
right of the throat plate.  There is a deeper scratch on the right front
leading edge of the bed about 1/4" long.    There are a few scratches at the
rear of the bed and several small scratches on the motor housing and a few
small scratches on the hand wheel.  I mention these scratches since they
tend to be more noticeable on a white machine than on the more prevalent
black variety. The drive mechanism of this particular machine is of the belt
variety (rather than the plastic gear variety).  The foot controller is in
excellent shape and the wiring is flexible (not brittle), however a small
piece of electrical tape has been wrapped around one section.  As white
machines go, this has a better-than-average appearance and is quite nice.

Condition of Carrying Case -- Overall I'd rate the case a 7 to 8.  The
interior is quite clean, with only the machine's rubber feet impressions
noticeable.  Outside hinges, handle and clasp are in excellent shape.  Some
slight abrasions on several corners, noticeable 2" scratch on front of case.
Case has a slightly different odor than the traditional black cases.  ( By
the way, these cases were manufactured by the same company that made record
carrying cases for 45's and 33's in the 1960's and early 1970's -- you'll
recognize them right away -- assuming you're over 40 years old ! ).

Original Accessories that came with this machine include:  Brown screw
driver, seam guide, regular foot, zipper foot, binder foot, 4 additional
bobbins, attachments box in above-average condition, and green, red and
white instruction manual. 

In addition I'll  include an edge stitcher, gathering foot, hemmer foot, and
ruffler to complete your attachments. 

Thanks for listening.

Bob 
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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 22:52:59 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Old Singer plank


: Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 01:22:39, -0500
: Subject: Singer Packing Crate?

:      OOooh!  I found something neat today!  It's a pine plank 27" x 13 1/2"
: and almost 3/4" thick.  A 10" high big red S with "Singer Sewing Machines"
: written in it, is stenciled on the wood.  Below in black stenciled letters
: is "MADE IN U.S.A."  It looks like it may have been the lid or side of a
: packing crate for a sewing machine or cabinet.  There is a molding attached
: to the outside edges, but although the molding is obviously old wood and
: has been there a long time, I'm guessing it was added to make the plank
: more of a "framed" sign.   However, the whole thing appears to be too
: primitive to have been any kind of advertising sign..

I saw an early engraving of a woman using a Singer machine (1860's, I 
think) in my reading recently, and it was a treadle designed to use the 
packing crate as the cabinet!  I don't really think that your piece
of packing crate was necessarily used as a cabinet, but your story
reminded me of the picture...

Speaking of reading, I've found a few sources for good information 
about American machines and companies, but I'm in the dark as far
as European companies are concerned.  As the proud owner of a couple
of German-made machines, I'd love to know more about them.  Any
references would be appreciated.

I'm so glad that FWFanatics is back on the air!  I really appreciate
all the work you do for this, Sue -- especially now that I've done 
without for a few days!  Thanks a bunch!

Terri
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Date: 4 Jun 1996 12:20:19 +0000
Subject: Stuff

Joy, joy: I opened my mail this morning as soon as I got to work and logged 
on....and there was FWF Mail....changes my whole day!  (Almost...after all, 
I AM still at work)..

To Chris (tian):

Hi Chris:  I saw one of those 324's about a year or so ago at my local 
Singer dealer.  I must say, I was not impressed with the appearance of the 
little plastic thing. Neither was the dealer.  As I recall, he was asking 
$119 for it.  I didn't see it there the last time I looked, so perhaps some 
poor (FWF) fanatic bought it, thinking......I have the picture also, which I 
took at the time because it sorta morbidly fascinated me to think that they 
could desecrate the Image of the FW by creating this......thing.  (Made in 
Taiwan, by the way) It's one thing for imitators to TRY and imitate, but for 
SINGER!!!! to do this, yuk, big time!  Of course, this is only my opinion 
and may not be shared by others.

About asking about sewing machines in antique stores:  Don't pass up 
anything without asking...I got my Spartan in an antique store for $10...I 
didn't even dicker for it...just closed my mouth and grabbed it.  In another 
antique store I know of, there are machines for $30, 50, and in this 
ilk...so the rule is (mine, anyway) NEVER ASSUME!  You might miss the buy of 
your life!  If you're there anyway, what's the harm?  And...you could always 
make an offer and leave your number.  You might be surprised how ready they 
might be to take you up on your offer instead of having the machine you've 
asked about continue to sit where it is for another couple of months or 
years....I saw one sitting in the same place from one year to the next!  And 
it's a very decent, respectable Singer (66, I think, but not sure) in a 
cabinet for about $65.00...so, who knows?

To Graham:

So besides SMs and typewriters, what other oooold machinery do you eschew? 
 To fix, that is?  (I'm devious in asking this, hoping for another TS#18? 
 or so?

PS:  I'm sure that Maggie is a saint.  I once asked my dear mother who she 
liked the best, as a group, her boys (5 of them) or her girls (5 of US!) 
 Being the EverWise Mother she is, she smiled enimatically and demurred 
answering....but I personally believe she likes us girls the best because 
after all she IS a girl and certainly knows the difference!  I remember 
asking her recently why when we were all kids did the girls have to do ALL 
the domestic stuff, and believe me there was a lot with 10 kids and 2 
parents and usually a stray boarder or so...and all the boys had to do was 
to empy the garbage (which they usually didn't even DO!)  Her answer was, as 
she shrugged her hands up in the air and I quote:  "I don't know!"  I guess 
that really is the best answer and helps to me to relate and understand your 
general comments about men in your #17 story....don't get me wrong, I love 
my 5 brothers, but if I had to be stranded on a desert island and had to 
pick being with the brothers or the sisters....guess which I'd pick.???

To Susan :

I love Eureka Springs and would move there in a minute if my DH and Mom 
agreed, which they don't.  My sister, Pat, had lived in Eureka, CA and moved 
from there to Eureka Springs, ARK, sort of a coincidence, isn't it?  But it 
certainly defined the life and life style of her and her family who are 
still there.  About the quilts:  I guess you have to really go out of town 
and know where to go to find the good ones.  When I was last there, about 2 
years ago, I was crushed to discover a multitude of (high priced) Chinese, 
Indian, and other NOT AMERICAN made quilts.  Not that I am against any 
quilts per se, but I certainly don't like the idea of selling these foreign 
(and not the best quality) quilts especially in an area that is indigenous 
to quilts, and there are loads and loads of rural women who quilt and earn 
money from their exquisite labors and have to compete with these....quilts 
from Foreign Lands...so be sure to cruise around if you go there and find 
the same situation that I found.  Ten twelve years ago, the situation was 
different and you could get "real" quilts.  But the town is fantastic, loads 
of interesting and beautiful houses and properties in addition to the 
victorians...it's very funky and beautiful and interesting...

To SUZIE  (Ragan, re:  Royal Sewing Machine:)

My next door neighbor has given me a beautiful Royal in a treadle.  I just 
have to collect it from as I make room for it in my stash....and that has to 
be absolutely the Last One.  It looks beautiful, but when I get into my 
clutches, I'll report more...I know I'll have to find out the birthday, and 
etc.

To James W :

Your purchase sounds like a good one to me...the machine and all the goodies 
for $50...I wouldn't complain about that!  Since you have the manual, you 
should invest in a can of SM oil and lubricant, get a few rags and little 
screw drivers and give it a go.  I've learned to do a lot on my collection 
and it really isn't very hard, just time consuming, but so rewarding, rather 
than pay $50-60 and more to have done.  It makes me feel very good to see it 
come to Life and be shiny and clean and SEWING...like I did with my mom's 
New 99 (2/6/56) I got her on Saturday and surprised her with!  Sews like a 
little dynamo!  You can't hurt anything, I feel and can learn a lot and it 
makes you feel good.

To David (and Linda) re:  6268

Isn't a shame there are so many of us who love the Older Singers because 
they were so wonderful...and then there's the new ones.....my "new, 
computerized" version, alas, is not a Singer, but the Bernina 1630, about 
which I cannot not say enough good things except it is too expensive, as all 
of it's counterparts in the industry........

Now, back to Work!  (Til the next Missive arrives....pant, pant)

Mary 
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:24:58 -0500
Subject: update on old singer

      I posted a letter on Friday May 31, 1996  inquiring about my Model 227
Singer(cream and tan) . Singer had misdated it. It was made in Manza,
Italy,6-9-1934. I was thrilled to get the correct date. Thought I'd
let you know. Also found out the other machine I found is not a
featherweight, but a Model 128 in a bentwood case with key. Looks brand new.
date-7-23-1952. I have decided to buy it. If anyone has any info on model
128   I would appreciate it. Attatchments are with it in little slide open
compartment on left side of case. Georgeous machine! Up to 20 machines now
and still looking!!!!!!
Sewing Machine Fanatic, Doreen
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Date: 04 Jun 96 12:12:57 EDT
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/27 - 5/31/96

The Singer 9W Family manual had a picture on a treadle machine inside.  Maybe
Graham knows something about this.  That's all I can tell you!

Carol C
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 12:50:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: My Finds this weekend!

Hi all, and Welcome back Sue.  

I had a fun weekend, I went out to explore and cultivate the sewing 
machine dealers in Ann Arbor and strangely enough the 3 that are close to 
me are within walking distance of each other!  The first store I visited 
the guy wasn't very nice and pretty clueless.  The third store, the guy 
was a wealth of information and let me in the back to look at all the 
carcases and interesting machines he had but he was too much of a dealer 
making comments like "now that machine, that's REALLY rare" and then 
upping the price because he thinks its rare.  He had a 128, matte (or 
crackle?) finish in a bentwood case (that he claimed was in the best 
shape he had ever seen, but one that I have is better :) from ~1948 for 
$125.  I personally think that matte finish is ugly so it was out of the 
question for me but if anyone else is interested I can hook you up with 
him.  The Second store on my trip was a real find!  The guy was very nice 
and let me wander around looking at stuff.  I told him I was looking for 
accessories and he pulled out about 10 boxes!  He had a zig-zagger, a 
blind stitch, an OIL CAN, a cool wooden velvet lined box, a varity of 
attachments and a screw I was missing (I bought all that for $20!!!) and 
he had 3 button holers, I'm thinking of going back and getting one but if 
someone else is also looking I can look into getting the others.  

Thanks to everyone who gave me advice on the thoat plate for my 99.  I 
figured it out the same day I sent the mail!  I didn't realized you had 
to put it back on by sliding it under the presser foot and to the 
left!!!  :)

shelly :  I also got a Greist Tuck foot in that pile of stuff I 
bought on Saturday, If you figure out how to use it, or if anyone else 
knows, please let me know!!!  :)

Sheri
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 13:07:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Old Treadle machine

Hi, another question I just thought of...I saw an old singer treadle 
machine at a junk shop for $50.  I'd say it was either a 3 or a 2 in 
condition.  Have you ever seen paint on a car "bubble up" and then flake 
off to reveal rust?  The bed of the machine was doing this.  I passed it 
up but was wondering if maybe I should go back.  What can you do with 
paint that's peeling up like that?  $50 is still a little steep for me 
for that condition but if the machine hangs around long enough (6 mo, I 
think) it will go down to 1/2 price.  THEN it will be worth it to me!  I 
was even thinking that I might be able to find a head that I could fix up 
(that has good paint and gold work) and put it in the table.  The table 
is in fairly poor condition too but is definately fixable, the machine on 
the other hand may not be fixable (at least in my mind).  And all this of 
course depends on if the machine is still there!!

Any advice?

Thanks!
Sheri 
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 13:49:59 -0400
Subject: Registry

Sue, 
    Condolences to you and your family, our thoughts have been with you.

     I just received the Keepsake Quilting Summer Newsletter, from the
Keepsake Quilting shop in Centre Harbor, NH.   In the Classifed ad space was
the following:

   "Attention Singer Featherweight Owners!  Register your treasure in the
new, Singer-approved 221 Club Registry.  Includes certificate.  SASE to 221
Club, 880 Valley Creek Rd., W Chester, PA 19380"
 
    Any of you FW Fans know anything about this??  I have my FWs listed in
Krisi Santilla's "survey" which is THE registry as far as I am
concerned....but I am very curious about the "Singer-approved" part.  

    Happy Hunting and Stitching!!               Karan
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Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 10:37:32 PST
Subject: Minnesota Sewing Machine

The reprint of the 1897 Sears Catalog ($5 at the local antique mall) has 5 
pages on the
Minnesota machine, which was apparently made for Sears.  The machines 
advertised are model 91014 ($21.55) and 91011 ($18.55), the "special" Minnesota 
and the "regular"
Minnesota. There are "special" models 91012 (3 drawers), 91013(5 drawers) as 
well as the
91014 with 7 drawers.
There are different cabinet styles illustrated.  In addition to what I would 
call
the "traditional" treadle style, some lovely desk-style cabinets are also 
illustrated.
In this catalogue Sears also offered the less expensive Success treadle ($8.50) 
and 
the Iowa ($13.25).  Sears assures its readers, however, that "The Greatest 
Bargain,
However, is in Our Fancy New Style Drop Head Stand at $21.75 and $24.75."  
These are
the "desk" style cases.
Unicorn Antique Mall in San Diego has two of the reprints of the later Sears 
catalog (1906??) but I don't think they had any more of the 1897 volume.  You 
could
call them.  The dealer is upstairs.
Hope this helps.
Sandy W
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Date: 4 Jun 1996 19:25:47 +0000
Subject: Response to May 27/28/31 FWFs

To Barbara S :

I think the 185K is like the 192K and I believe the serial number is on the 
bottom, like the FW...not sure because mine is at home...but that number is 
somewhere...and I have a manual for the 185 that I used until someone sent 
me a copy of the (Spartan)192K...so if you need one, e-mail and let me know, 
I'll copy it for you and send it to you.

To MaryJo :

My Spartan is EP073726 and was born 2/25/59, but call Singer, they will tell 
you for sure...I didn't get a case with mine and was under the impression 
from other FWF comments there was no case...what does yours look like?  If 
there is a case for yours, maybe there's one out there for mine...and there 
is no wrong end of any numbers..(i.e., 50's) .except when it fails to 
change...

To Graham:

How did you move from True Story #17 on 25 May to True Story #30 on 28 
May?????  I wish to lodge a complaint then, because I never received 18-29, 
and I...WANT....THEM....N..O..W! 
Seriously, what's the scoop?

To Sheri :

I just cleaned up my recent (on Saturday) 99 (rubbed and rubbed with Sewing 
Machine Oil...helded the rust on chrome, too...also crumpled aluminin foil 
helps take rust off chrome...I've done some unbelievely rusted legs and they 
look new now) and found the same problem with the plate you described.  My 
Smart Mom determined you must very carefully align the plate with the tracks 
on the bottom and in the throatplate area and it will load up properly, not 
fall out that is...it's a little tricky and you have to look at it, rather 
than just slide it in, like you'd think...

To Suzie 

How much did they want for the Royal that you didn't buy?  Just curious 
since I haven't seen many of them around...

To Millie M :

I have an almost brand-new 14.4 External modem if you're interested.  My DH 
gave me a 28.8 internal, so I only used the 14.4 for about 1 month...and we 
should all have laptops...I know I WANT ONE!!But if I tell my DH that, he's 
hit the roof...I already told him my 486 isn't swift enough and he doen't 
want to hear it!  In perspective, that makes the FW even more endearing. 
 Here we are avidly searching for a machine to own and possess and use 
that's older than we are in many instances and computer stuff when it's more 
than a minute old is already obsolete....hummm.....some sort of message 
there???

Well , time to let this one fly....I started it before lunch, excited to 
have two long juicy FWFs mail today....oh joy..
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Subject: FW Case: missing handle
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 11:35:43 -0600

My new FW case is missing the handle.  Does anyone know of a source for such 
things?  TIA  Susie
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 09:39:31 +0000
Subject: RE: This and That

> I'am going to put it in a quilt show in 2 weeks hoping to have some info 
>to display with it.
   Sharon: Be careful putting this White in a show. Take any moving 
parts out or they may disappear.

To Graham - This is wonderful! Love your stories! Maggie sounds like 
a very lovely person. Did I read that you were coming to the San 
Francisco area sometime? It sounds like Maggie went to the same 
"charm school" I did!

>Escuse me, Madame. Don't get in a tizzy,
>I'm a well-loved dog and my name is Dizzy.
>I have a fur coat to keep out the rain--
>So just "bugger off: you're becoming a pain.
>Graham F

Lois wrote:
>June 17, l936 - what a thrill.  The Singer rep. told me it is a 20l
>FW.  = I thought FWs did not come in cabinets so I would like to hear
>from  any = Fanatics  who can fill me in on this history.  I have my
>treasure opened =
   Lois,
   My sewing machine guy Jim Sorrel, told me that Singer did make a 
FW in a cabinet, not many though. Jim worked for Singer for 30 yrs. 
In sales, service,and management. Then opened his own business. I 
bought my Julie from him. She's my 1946 Singer class 15-91 model. 
   By the way, anyone in the Chico, Ca area who have vintage sewing 
machines and need tuned up etc, I highly recommend Jim. He's very 
knowledgeable and his prices are good. 
   Also, Jim wants to do a FW class. He would teach taking your FW 
apart, cleaning it, oiling it, and resembling it. This will be a 3 
hour class and he will charge $35.00. This will teach us to service 
our own machines and to have the knowledge to determine if we have a 
major problem. He will only take 10 people max for each class. 
   Jim can also get parts and copies of manuals. I have spoken to him 
and he gave me permission to post his address:
Quality Resale - Jim Sorrell - 
590 E. 5th Ave.
Chico, Ca. 95926
916-345-7071 &916-342-7882
   Jim tells me stories about these vintage machines, as though I'm 
going to remember them! So, I've been after him to write this all 
down so I could post it here, chapter a day!

 This is a great list and I certainly missed it.  I read every 
sentence. There is so much info, good stories. This too is one of the 
good things!  
Rosemary
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 16:24:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Singer 20-10

Hello Again ya'll fanatics,

I was discussing old sewing machines with my wife after seeing some in a
antique/junk store.  She mentioned that she had a old singer hand crank that
belonged to her mother.  After looking through several closets, she brought
back a samll tan case with a samll hand crank sewing machine in it.  She
said it never worked and so that was a challange.  I have been working on it
and cleaning it up.  It still is not right but I will keep at it.  

Any way, she has the orginal manual with it and if any one needs a copy I
will copy it and mail it out for costs.  I might even try and scan it in and
make it available by e-mail.  Of course this means that I will have to stop
reading FWF and put down my tools for a few minutes.(what a dreary
thought)(LOL).

Oh well, back to my tinkering....David 
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:10:46 -0400 (EDT)

Hi All and Sue and Boy Am I Glad We're Back!!

I was beginning to suffer from Digest Withdrawl for a day or so there!

To James W : For $50 you did not do good, you did GREAT.  Whether or
not you clean it up yourself or leave it to a "professional" depends on
how much is wrong with the machine and how adventurous you are.  If all
the mechanicals are in reasonable working order (that is, everything moves
like it should when you turn the balance wheel), I would think you could
certainly do all of the following yourself:
 1. Vacuum the living daylights out of the cabinet and of the innards of
the machine, as necessary.
 2. Give the machine head a good going over with WD-40 OR give the machine
head and the cabinet a good going over with Murphy's Oil Soap.
 3. Following the directions in your instruction book, spray WD-40 into
any oiling point near an area where the machine sticks.  Wait 24 hours.
 4. Following the directions in your instruction book, oil all points with
a good quality machine oil.  Do NOT overoil - your first sewing project
will live to regret it if you do!
 5. Following...etc., thread her up and sew!

If all this works, you will have saved yourself $60, and learned a great
deal about your machine's operations to boot!

To Karen: I bought a Boye needle/shuttle case at an antique show about a
month ago, but sadly mine didn't come with "a lot of good stuff".  He was
originally asking $110 but I got it for $75.  I really don't know if I
overpaid, but I don't care -- it's such a neat thing, and chock full of
information about many different machines.  Graham, would you be willing
to suggest a fair price for shuttles??  I have one or two that aren't for
my 127/128 and I would be willing to sell them to someone who genuinely
NEEDS one for an older machine, but I haven't the foggiest about a fair
price.  If you'd rather not, that's ok.

A question: Did W  ever market machines as portables, like the 99 and
128 were marketed in the bentwood cases by Singer?  I ask this because I know
where two White machines are, but both are in cabinets and I really don't
have the room (as DH keeps reminding me!).  I wouldn't mind having a
White portable to check out attachment types, but I don't think I've ever
actually seen one.

Lydia
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 17:50:51 -0700
Subject: posting for g.s.

Hi, My name is Grayson S , I have a singer machine that I WAS going 
to sell for a very low price.  I wondered why people were calling and 
asking me questions about its serial number, then I got wise and desided 
to look into it myself.  From what I read here on your page, It is a 
machine from 1951, an anniversary (or as the medalion says) A century of 
excelance.  1851 * 1951   Gold with Blue medalion, gold scribing or deco 
around the base, in the center, and on top.  It's still for sale, however
Its price has a new number  ;)   Although I'm not whre what that number 
should be, I would like some Imput.   Its cerial number is AK489093.
Great shape, In its wooden cabinet with front bun down door with copper
thread holders, Knee control * foot control, origonal cords are hard and 
in need of replacing, but I still use them.  Moter is strong and all runs 
as if it were brand new!.     Can anyone enlighten my on its worth?
Thank you very much
Mr Grayson
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 18:19:30 -0700
Subject: Replies

Subject: Stuff
To Bobbie:
Where does one procure this Wonderous Howard's Oil/Wax?  I live in New 
Jersey....please advise...my mom wants to know if it's anything like Carnuba 
(I think that's what she said).

        It is SUPERIOR to Carnuba wax.  There are two Howard's Products that 
I use
on ALL wood in my home, and of course, all my treadle tables.

One is the Orange Oil, which is used to clean and nourish the wood
The second is the Beeswax &Orange oil, to put a nice protective finish on it.

You can order directly from Howards:  Howard Products, Inc.
                                                                             
   411 W. Maple Avenue             
                                                                             
   Monrovia, CA 91016

This stuff contains Carnuba, but in a very small amount....the real winner 
is th e
way it is homogenized with the Bee's wax and orange oil.  It's great stuff.

=Bobbie=
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 22:14:04 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/25 &5/26/96

In a message dated 96-06-03 19:28:54 EDT, you write:

>Featherweight Plus 

what is the price on this new machine and is it worth it if we can't find
what we really want -- an old FW???
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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 00:08:46 -0400
Subject: From Courtney's DH

Hi FWF's,

You don't know me and I don't know you, but I wanted to let you know that
Courtney was involved in a serious auto accident last Friday.  She'll be out
of comission for a while, but will be back to FWFing, hopefully before too
long.

In the meantime, I'm going to print out your stuff and bring it to her at the
hospital to keep her spirits up!

Just wanted to let you know, because I know how much she enjoys all of
you....
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Date: Tue, 4 Jun 1996 23:15:08 -0700
Subject: RE: True rewards

Do you guys ever hesitate sharing how many sewing machines you have at home,
or openly admitting what an obsession this sewing machine collecting has
become?   I know I have - I'm real sure some people would not understand AT
ALL and others would look at me a bit askew.  BUT - I have found out that
sharing (while risky) does bring rewards.
I was traveling with a colleague recently across the state of Oregon to a
professional meeting and we were talking about a teacher's exchange program
where the teachers actually exchange jobs and homes.  I commented that I
would be afraid to have someone live in my house because they would find my
16 sewing machines and closets full of fabric.  My colleague thought I was
kidding!  I had to assure her I was serious and explained further that I
enjoyed the old Singers and used them to piece my quilts.     She didn't
gasp in horror at the time ( too much of a lady!) but she did share with
others at our after-meeting dinner what an "unusual" hobby I have.
One of the other members said she knew exactly what sewing machines I liked
- that she had two Singer Featherweights and one was for sale!  She also
said that it came with a cabinet.  I at first thought she meant the folding
table, but she said no, it was an oval wooden CABINET!   Her father had
recently moved in with her from California and they had intended on selling
it down there, but the movers had packed it  before they thought to tell
them.  (My guardian sewing machine angel was looking our for me!)  ;-)  She
said *her* machine was a pre-war and the one she was selling was post-war.
She asked me what it was worth and I said she should check with her sewing
repair place, but it would be at least $150 and up.   She said she would ask
her father how much he wanted and I said I REALLY wanted to buy it.  She
lives on the Oregon Coast and our meeting was in the Willamette Valley
(about 2 hours away from the Coast).  If I hadn't had my colleague with me,
I would have followed her home to get it right then!
I corresponded with her and she said her father thought $150 was fine.  Now,
when could we get there to pick it up?  I live in Eastern Oregon over 400
miles inland.  About 2 or 3 weeks later, my husband suggested that since we
didn't have any other plans for Memorial Day Weekend,  we make a quick trip
to the coast  - just the two of us!  I love going to the coast but was
surprised when that ol' Nebraska boy suggested it  (he thinks it "smells")
so of course I said YESSS! and made quick arrangement for our kids.
I had a great time going down, stopping at practically every fabric store
and quilt shop on the way!  When we went to pick up the machine, the cabinet
is  GEORGEOUS!  It is a beautiful red wood (mahogany?) and in practically
perfect condition.  The oval cabinet top lifts completely off and leaves an
oval table with a cut-out for the FW to set down into.  The cabinet doors
are double hinged to fold out of the way and the little shelf  is hinged to
fold up and give your knees more room.  It has two solid trestle-type legs
between the folding doors.    It even came with 3 wooden spools of thread
and a small oval can of  Singer oil in Spanish!   When I set the sewing
machine inside the cabinet on the little shelf , close the doors and replace
the table top - there is absolutely no clue that it is a sewing machine
cabinet - it looks like a lovely end table. The FW turned out to be a
pre-war (AF).  The seller was so surprised, she swore it had been post-war!
She even had to get out the one she was saving to make sure she had the
right one.  It is in good condition, I would say 6-7 on Graham's scale.  BTW
- we gave the father more than $150 because of the good condition - although
I didn't think he would accept it at first.  They seemed truly happy to have
it go to someone who treasured it so much.
The moral of this long story - don't be afraid to tell people about your
obsession!  I know now that no amount of explaining will help the
unbelievers understand and explainations are not necessary to true "fanatics." 
Thanks also for listening - I hope it wasn't boring and does not sound like
I'm bragging.  I feel so lucky and blessed to have an understanding and
supportive husband AND the people on this list to share my good news with.
I know that when I read others stories of wonderful finds, I get a bit
jealous and downhearted.  But, here I am sharing my "good luck" story and
hoping that others will take it in the spirit it is intended - that you will
find your heart's desire someday also.
Kolleen 
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Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 20:04:12 -0400
Subject: Re: Can someone identify this Singer?

DW called Singer yesterday and found out that the "black and chrome" 
Centennial machine is a 15. She's really looking for something more like 
a FW, so we're not taking. But if anyone else is looking for one of 
these, email us, and we'll pass along the seller's #.

But . . . We found a machine service/sales shop that has about 30 301s 
in the warehouse ($100 for a very good one, serviced and warranted - 
with manual and whatever attachments they can find). DW decided, after a 
little research, that one of these could quell her FW lust for a while. 
Wondering if anyone can tell us a bit about living with a 301, as well 
as if the price we're looking at is reasonable?

Thanks all,
Clay &Shelly
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Date: Wed,  5 Jun 1996 06:46:47, -0500
Subject: needle and shuttle tin

>PS:  I also ran accross and old store needle and shuttle storage tin
with > loads of wooden needle cases inside.  It was a relatively uniqe
piece,  >about 18" in diameter and obviously quite old (and expensive).

Hi Barbara -- Does your tin say Boye on it anywhere? I recently
purchased one that does -- at an antique sale -  and I too thought it
was very unique - I had never seen anything like it.  I have since seen
one at the Lancaster Quilt show - one of the vendors had one and I just
had to see how much she was asking for it -- $175.  I was so excited
about it because I had paid $75 for mine.  The woman told me that there
were not that many of them around and that they were used in old
country stores.  How much was the one that you saw?
Jeri
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Subject: Portables for sale in New Zealand
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 23:55:00 +1200

Hi FWFs

A couple of weeks ago I posted about a stash of portables which I found in
a junk shop. Well, I bought one and hope to buy another but the other 
three are going to be auctioned on Saturday 7th June (this will be Friday 
in the US).

The machines are : 

201K EF786632 born 3 May 1950. Centennial model, has pin scratches on arm.
99 EF252524 born 29 July 1949, no throat plate, crazed black paint, worn gilt.
99 EB388820 born 11 June 1937 worn gilt.

Dealer says they all work. I tried out EB388820 and it runs.

I realise these will be expensive with shipping for anyone in the US; but 
thought someone in NZ or Australia might be interested. All are best 
described as "well used". The dealer wants $NZ50.00 for each of them. This
is around US $35.00. (The dealer is going out of business and all his 
stock will be auctioned on Saturday.) Just for the record shipping to the 
US would be around US$112.00 each !!

Sarah B
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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 10:03:23 -0400
Subject: Original FW Card Table

I have an original FW Card Table for sale. It is in good working condition
and has not been repainted or refurbished. I've decided to offer it for $195
without it refurbished or $225 for it refurbished (repainted legs &side
wood, and poly-urethaned coated top). If interested, E-Mail me
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Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 10:05:20 -0500
Subject:  Featherweight List

Greetings to All !!! Sign me up quick !!! I have enjoyed reading the past
postings and I am addicted ..... I have been searching for 221s for the
past 3 or 4 years and I am happy to say that I have found twenty
machines to date. 19 are black machines and one white one. As a male, I
don't sew but I am addicted to flea markets and searching for antiques
and collectibles. I have sold most of the machines that I have found to
women who are in quilting classes in my parent's hometown in Upstate
New York. If I find a machine , I usually sell it for just about what I got it
for but I ask the "new owner" to make me a wall hanging for my
collection. It has been a great way to build my collection of wall hangings
and the "new owners" often get quite a bargain !! The large majority of
the 221s that I have purchased were less than $150 !! I have paid as little
as $5 and up to $200 for a mint shape black machine and the one white
221. If you don't have a 221... keep up the search---they are all over the
place and you don't have to pay an arm and a leg !

Suggestion---- Many people complain about the condition of the cases.
We have had a lot of luck polishing them with "car top polish" for vinyl
car top. (Remember in the cars in the 60s and 70s with black vinyl
tops....) 

Thanks again for signing me up to the list and I am looking forward to
hearing for others.....  E mail address 
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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 09:23:33 -0500
Subject: attatchments in foldout wooden box

    First of all I love FWF!!! I have learned a lot and appreciate all the
letters. I have an old wooden foldout box full of attatchments.Patent date
on it is 1889. Does anyone know what machine they are for? Have a manual
maybe? I have  an 1891 #2 VIBRATING SHUTTLE (SINGER) that I got at the same
household auction,   thought perhaps they went to this machine . Don't know
how to attatch any of   them except ruffler. Perhaps some one can help me
out. Thank you much.......                             Doreen
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Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 11:33:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Spartan Case

First of all - my condolences to Sue and her family  - my thoughts have been 
with you.
And thank you for all the work you do on this list and the KK list.  I 
really missed both of them.

To MaryJo :

Happy belated Birthday!  What a great gift from your son!  I would love some 
more information on the case that came with your Spartan.  I didn't know 
there were cases for them.  What does it look like?

Melodie
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Date: 05 Jun 96 13:28:02 EDT
Subject: Contribution

A couple of years back Maggie, my SO, did a TV programme (English spelling)
called The Secret Life of the Sewing Machine which I believe has run a couple 
of
times on PBS in America.
She's just had another spot in a new series called called Collectomania which 
is
to be run here by the cable companies on The Learning Chanel.
She did great, explaining her obsession with old machines and there are quite a
few very rare items on show. Guess it will get to America in the fall. Don't
miss it.

Graham F
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Date: 05 Jun 96 13:28:08 EDT
Subject: Comtribution

To Susie

The Free SM Co made a Royal machine during the early years of this century and
there was a Royal SMCo in England in the 1870 to 1890 period that made a whole
range of machines under that banner. Also a Japanese company made a Royal in 
the
60s 70s.

To Barbara

Not a bad guess over the 185 K. It was produced between 1958 and 1964.Keep
reading future postings for details of Singer Recognition Manual which should
give quite a lot of information.

To Krisi

My records from Singer in Scotland do not show that the PA series was every
produced there

To all re true stories

Don't quite know what happened to true story no 30 except that it got posted 
out
of sequence and in error. We'll get back on track immediately.

To Sheri
Jappan work is the black paint used to cover the machines. It is, or was,
produced by dipping the entire machine in black enamel and then baking. The 
gold
decoration was applied later and then the whole job given a coat of protective 
.

 To Bobbie

Sorry about the missing page. It's in the post express and you should have it
about now.

To Lois

Your Singer man is not officially correct in calling your 201 a Featherweight.
The 201 was introduced first as a cast-iron machine  (1935 to 1954) and then as
an alluminium framed machine until 1962 but I do not belive that it was ever
marketed under the Featherweight banner which was reserved for the 221 and 222
machines.

Richard.

Your Minnisota machines was made by the Davis SM Co of Dayton Ohio. Brand
introduced in the early years of this centurt. Don't know when the  Minnisota
name was dropped but by 1924 the company was no longer in production.

To Jan

The round belting used on old machines is joined by a wire clip rather like an
elongated letter C or a heavyweight staple. I fashion them from 1/16-inch
mild-steel welding rod.

To David

The machine you have is a Davis Vertical Feed model made in Watertown NY. I 
seem
to have everything in the archive -- including company share certificates ---
but no instruction book -- sorry.
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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 14:11:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 6/1 - 6/4/96

> "no info" answer since they are both 301A's and have the NA serial
numbers.  Should be interesting to see what they say though. 

Why wouldn't Singer have info on Serial numbers with NA?  The woman I 
talked to also said she didn't have it on record but I KNOW the machine 
was bought brand new in 51 or 52.  And she indicated they had records 
through the 60s.  What's up with the 301a's with NA serial numbers and 
where can I go to find when it was made?

Doreen:  I can't tell you much about the 128s except that I have 2 of 
them!  I don't really know any history, one of mine is from 1923 and the 
other is from 1940.  If you have any specific questions about it I can 
try to answer them!!

All:  Has anyone else read "A Capitalist Romance:  Singer and the Sewing 
Machine"?  And what did you think?  He was an interesting and nasty man.

Sheri 
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Date:          Wed, 5 Jun 1996 14:01:56 +0000
Subject:       15s and 201s

Hi All,

Everyone seems to be finding such great deals! Someone asked if a 
15-91 and 201 were the same. They are NOT. They both have the built in 
motors (no belts) but they are different beyond that. The 201 has the 
tension dial in the front and the 15s have them on the face plate. 
They are threaded very differently. Both are great machines but I 
prefer the 201. I think it is quieter and smoother. If you ever see 
one, BUY IT! Of all my machines, this is my favorite to sew on. There 
are prettier ones out there but in my opinion, this is the cadillac 
of old Singers. Enough preaching.

On the subject of 201s, I recently acquired two more. One sews 
beautifully but is cosmetically abused (names engraved in the bed 
:(), the other is pretty good cosmetically but the motor appears 
melted. Has anyone ever swapped motors on these machines with the 
built in motors? Anything I should know before plungeing ahead? 

Sue- Glad you are back. You have been in my thoughts and prayers. 

Take care, Katy
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Date: 05 Jun 96 13:28:19 EDT
Subject: Contribution

T Clay and Shelly,
My guess is that the Californian machine is a 201. We could always open a book
on this -- or is that an English-only expression (means to start wagering).

To Terri

The number one Singer introduced in 1851 used the packing case for the treadle.
In the 1930s a large framed lithograph was given to each main Singer agent for
display in stores. This showed the No One with packing case in use. Size of the
store determined whether it got a coloured or a monochrome version of the
picture.
The pictures are much sought after now by collectors.
The pine plank was part of a standard Singer shipping crate.
Best source book for European machines (although it's a bit superficial) is
Oldtimer Sewing Machines by Otto Landgraf.Available in the original German or 
in
an English translation I did about 10 years back. Deals mostly with German
machines. Good photographs. We're still waiting, and waiting, and waiting for
Maggie Snell's book on English machines.
The Landgraf book is available from Maggie. E-mail 100644.3142@compuserve.com. 
I
have a business interest here.

To Mary 
Re what I fix. Maggie Snell and I co-operate in a business which deals with all
manner of mechanical antiques. That covers music boxes, scientific instruments,
radios (mechanical?), telephones, phonographs etc.
Really not sure which, your brothers or sisters, you'd chose for the desert
island.
I'd go for a mix. Then the men could provide shelter, a water supply, rescue
plans, build a raft etc. All you girls would have to do is sit back and watch
and every so often, gaze adoringly, compliment our achievements and tell us how
wonderful we are. Really, that's all it takes.
Sorry, I forgot. The men would probably expect the ladies to clean up the mess
they made afterwards.
In case anyone hasn't got the message yet, Maggie tells me I'm the original
chauvanist pig -- but an honest one.
Now the flames can start!!!!!!

Carol
Can't help at all with the 9 series Singer. Never sold in this country, at 
least
under that designation.

Sheri
The bubble-up paint problem is caused by damp getting through scratches,
blemishes etc on the paintwork and causeing the cast iron to rust. Metal when 
it
rusts expands to nine times its original size so even a thin firm of rust will
soon push the paint away. Surely there are enough machines out there to give
this one a miss.

Mary 
You noticed the jump from true story 17 to 30.  Truth is that I tend to knock
out half a dozen or so at one time when I'm not to busy and then feed them
downline one at a time later. Only I hit the wrong button and sent 30 in error.
Pity because it refered to an earlier story about Maggie's Rat. But nothing is
lost and I'll get 18 off later this week.

Rosemary
Maggie, like all good antique dealers can turn charm on an off like a tap. 
I'll be in San Francisco late August if plans work out. Have to visit with
Sharon Tedrow our ISMACS American rep who will be either in San Fran or Orcas
Island. Either way I'll probably have to fly into SF.

Lydia
Thanks for putting me on the spot over a fair price for shuttles! You're not
going to get a straight answer, of course. More a senic route than the freeway
drive.
I occasionally have to make shuttles complete for customers with ultra rare
machines. They take me two to three  days of solid work using a lot of 
expensive
equipment. I charge them the hourly rate plus a small premium for access to an
original to copy. Cost is therefore two to three days machine-ship time plus 10
per cent. The customer is happy . He could have a $2000 machine the value of
which has just doubled because now it's complete and working.
On the other hand, a guy need a shuttle for a common Singer or Singer clone. I
dig around in the spare-shuttles box. If he's an ISMACS member usually no money
changes hands. If's he's a stranger, it probably costs him $5 up.
There you are, I just used up 150-odd words and still didn't really answer your
question.

To Mr Grayson.
Sorry that you are having so much difficulty in deciding the NEW price for your
secondhand Singer machine. Gee, you had a lucky escape not selling it too
cheaply at the OLD price.

To Courtney

Get well soon

Best wishes

Graham F
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Date: 5 Jun 1996 19:17:14 +0000

If anyone has tried to get me on AOL lately, my home computer is at the 
hospital, where it's been off and on for awhile.  Meanwhile, Monday through 
Thursday, I'm able to get FWF stuff here at work...Friday, Saturday, &
Sunday will be FEATHERLESS unless my PC comes home tomorrow!   Anyway, my 
AOL is McLehr@AOL.com and Compuserve is 103452,560@Compuserve (incase anyone 
has an overwhelming desire to write to me there!)

To Suzie :

I agree about the phone qualification, but my best buy was where a guy had 
an old beat up 127/8, I think he wanted 50-60$ for and, oh yeah, behind the 
couch, there was an old little one in a box...that's the one I got for $15 
and it was a centennial model I discovered later!!!  Your 500 should be a 
real dynamo...the Rocketeer.  I saw one in a yuukky old vacumm repair place 
about a 7, and dirty looking and they were asking $290!  (mine is a 9 1/2 
and it was $20...so go figure!)  I love the way it sews, a real quality 
machine, great stitching.  So good luck with it.  My sister Gina who is an 
artist said all these old machines with these types of geometrics in the 
design (like cadillacs &chevies with fins) will be sought after and 
collected...besides being an artist, she is a dealer, specializing in 
vintage clothing, jewlery, and STUFF, and is very knowledgeable for one so 
young (39).  A fews ago, I would have looked at the 500 and went.....YUK! 
 Double YUK!  Now, it looks COOL!

To James 

Where is Lucasville?  I'm from Stark County and have been away for 
awhile...sounds like a fun flea market...terriffffic luck on getting two 
301's....all I have is the instruction manual that came as a bonus with my 
last FW...so at least I know what it looks like....

I have a couple different Singer Student manuals and some other 
titles...I'll have to check and make a list.  I love them for all the 
information they have and I bet others would too...you just gave me the 
idea........

To Clay :

I had to call Singer anyway, so I asked about your machine, which is model 
15, made 7/16/51...the 15 is a good machine.....you said it came with a case 
and stand....what kind of stand?  Would it be a table like for the FW?  (you 
can always call the 800-877-7762 - it's in Edison.  Sometimes it takes 
awhile to get through, but they are always nice in my experience and very 
helpful, and the price is right!

To Rosemary 

I like your idea of having a FW Class.  My dealer's husband is a SM genius, 
does all the work at her shop (Quilter's Corner in Avenel--totally great 
place, service, classes, personnel, etc.) for Berninas, Vikings, and most 
others....I'll mention this to him, it might be something he would like to 
do, and then again, who knows.......I feel I could almost do it, I've spent 
so much time on a variety of machines, including my 6 FWs...not really, but 
it takes time and effort and the desire to learn.  It's not just the money 
saved by doing it yourself, I think it's fun and makes you feel good to 
maintain your machine.

I find it particularly humorous to note that when they first introduced SM's 
back in the 1800's, around 1860 more or less...they had to adverstise that 
they were so EASY to use, even a  could operate them so that WOMEN 
would think that they  could operate these MACHINES....women were 
trained to believe that they were not capable of operating machines......big 
joke, isn't it?  I remember reading the 1st SM inventor,  a Frenchman in or 
about 1790 invented one and his shop was stormed and burned and the SM was 
destroyed.  All the garment workers (I don't know what else to call them for 
back then) were scared and terrified they would lose their jobs...things 
haven't changed much 206 years later......we've been downsized 2X and are 
waiting for another 10,000 jobs to hit the pavement in our company....but 
anyway, I digress..

Once again, I have to hand it to you, Sue for all your fine work &
dedication in maintaining this digest....I'm going to have to start a 
support group called FWFA...FeatherWeightFanatics Anonymous....(for when 
ever I don't get my "fix" for whatever reason)...Hi, my  name is Mary, and 
I'm a FWF....I'm going to start working on the 12 rules or whatever they are 
called....eg, 1.  I admit I am powerless over a FeatherWeight..., etc. 
 Yuk...I'm really losing it, I better send this off and work my buns off to 
compensate.  It's a good thing, I'm FAST!!!  Bye to all of you out in FW 
land ....and happy, happy, happy hunting.  Friday is only 2 days away...who 
knows what the Estate Sales will hold?

Mary,
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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 12:47:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: FW 's For Sale

  These are the FW's I currently have for sale.

AE  Machine is in excellent condition, scrolled faceplate, attachments, 
case in good condition, copy of the manual. $550.
AG  Case, copy of manual,  a few attachments, $360. There is wear on this 
machine.
AJ $450 Case, Manual, good condition, even wear, attachments.
AL $450 Case, Manual, good condition but does have wear, attachments.
AM $550 Superior Condition, Case great, case, manual, attachments.

Shipping and handling is $30 to include, shipping, packing, insurance, 
and tracking. If you need further infor e or call me
Zsuxxa
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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 16:17:22 -0400
Subject: Want To Buy, Etc.

Welcome home, Sue ! You were missed and in our thoughts and prayers.

I just acquired another FW and the case is in need of new latches.One was
broken when I got it, the other broke when DH decided to have a look- My dear
husband has decided that he can make cases and trays for FW's, since he's a
master  with wood, and has stripped the black covering off one of my cases (
while I sat there, grimacing the whole time!) to "see how it's made, and to
refinish the wood underneath" - 
I will keep you all informed as to the progress of the process -   

 Also just acquired a Singer 101 in need of a foot pedal, and ( I know this a
LONG SHOT) a case.

Want To Buy:  Singer Model 66 - my collection is coming along nicely, but
doesn't include one of these yet.  Also looking for other older Singer
portables.

 If any of you have or know of any of these,please e-mail privately - Thanks.

I also just acquired a Singer 457, and it's a bit too new for me. If anyone
is interested in purchasing it, it's up for grabs.

The old saying holds true - "You don't appreciate what you have until you
don't have it" -
we are so happy to see FWF again in our mailbox, and to read of everyone's
adventures.
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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 19:00:21 -0400
Subject: Griest Tucker

Welcome back, Sue.  You were really missed.

I have seen a couple of questions about this attachment lately.  Although I
have the Singer tucker to fit my FWs, I much prefer the Griest version.  I
find it better and a lot easier to use.  If you need a copy of the
directions, e-mail me privately with an address and I'll send you a
photocopy.

If you don't have a Griest tucker, and have a chance to acquire one, do so.
 You will really be pleased with it.

Flo
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Date: Wed, 05 Jun 1996 20:30:20 GMT

Hi, everyone..glad to see the list back again. It's my favorite, and I look
forward to it eagerly!!
There's going to be an auction this weekend near my home. Listed for sale are: 
a
Singer Slant-o-matic ( I'm assuming this is a 401) and a " Singer Homemaker"
sewing machine. Could anyone tell me what type of machine this might be? and
whether it might be a worthwhile purchase?
Also, I posted awhile back about a toy machine I'd found. It's a
Hamilton-Ross-maybe 40 years old. Would anyone know of a source for needles? 
The
one (very dull) needle I have is 1 1/4" long. 

TIA,

Laurie
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 00:35:10 GMT
Subject: FW for Sale

AF874615 (DOB 4-1-41). Scrolled face plate.  Has 3 attachments (tucker foot,
binder &adjustable hemmer) 4 bobbins, lube tube, oil can (red,white &
green) &black felt circle.  New cord (wiring) &manual.  Some of the nickel
plating in front is worn.  Has a few small scratches near the needle plate.
Good stitching - serviced 5/96.  Small shelf on side of case. Rating 7.
This FW need another loving home!  $360 plus shipping. 
E-mail to:   JP
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Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 22:32:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Howe

I'd love to be able to say I got the bargain FW, but I didn't!

I did get a 301a (tan) in wonderful condition (actually, my friend found 
it for me) for $25.  Did I do good?  Does anyone know where I could get a 
replacement rubber grommet for the bottom of the machine?  It came with 
attachments and a *red* plastic case with the buttonholer.  I have never 
seen mention of a red case -- is this unusual, or just with the 301.  I 
am really looking forward to trying this one.  Can someone tell me the 
difference between a 301 and 301a?

My last question -- does anyone know anything about a Howe machine?  We 
just found the head (it looks like it sat out for a long time, but my 
husband is trying to clean it up.  It does have a pulley wheel (under the 
bed) that looks like it would have been a treadle machine.  It is *very, 
very* heavy - and at the moment in pieces.  I would appreciate any 
information on this machine.  It has a serial number 371587 and Patent 
dates of September 10, 1846, August 24, 1856, and April 2, 1867.  

Thanks in advance for any information or advice you can give me.

Pat 
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 08:30:56 -0400
Subject: Twins?

To Regina S:
I have two AKs:  one is 417805 (05/10/51) and the other is AK 614189
(10/31/51) according to Singer..>>>
I just read this posting.  I have a Featherweight AK608927 which Singer told
me was "born" on 10/31/51.  Does this sound possible to you?  Let me hear
what anyone thinks about this?
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Subject: Re: Secret Life of Sewing Machines
Date: 06 Jun 96 09:35:48 -0500

The Secret Life of Machines program aired here in the US a couple of
years ago.  It was a great series.  I loved the one on the sewing
machine.  They demonstrated how a sewing machine operates by having
people perform as a "human sewing machine".
  Terri
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Date: 3 Jun 1996 14:45:43 +0000
Subject: Stuff

Greetings, fellow FWFs....boy, when you don't have something you've become 
so used to, you then realize what it means to you....not having my FWF fix 
really put me off my feed.  I found my self pacing around, knowing there was 
something missing....actually, it was a dual missing.  I had put my PC back 
in the shop (AGAIN!) cause it wasn't doing good stuff since I've had the 
CD-ROM my DH bought for me installed.  FIgured as long as there was no FWF 
news, might as well bite the bullet all the way!

Sue, take it from me.....your hard work and dedication in maintaining this 
digest/mail/FWFings, is incredibly valuable and dear to my heart.  I know 
when I say this that I....AM....NOT....AL0NE!!!!  FWFs of the World, let us 
Salute Sue!

General:

I know I promised myself, NO MORE SMs unless FWs....well, I saw a 99 in a 
cabinet on Friday at a garage sale.  (My mom wanted to buy it on the spot, 
no dickering...she's a good one to have along to help me resist, isn't 
she??) Made an offer (of $25), was refused, wanted $39 they paid to have it 
serviced some years ago; gave to daughter who never used...  Left my phone 
number, in case.......well, on Saturday morning, as soon as I opened my 
eyes, the image of that machine popped into my brain...and would not 
leave...this was 8:00 AM, and sale didn't open til 9:00AM....I paced around 
my kitchen, drank coffee, puttered and watch the clock tick by til it got to 
8:45 AM....left a note for mom and took off.  My plan was to drive by and 
see if it was still there....it was.  A  young couple were carefully 
inspecting it...I went to the woman and offered $35.00.  She called the 
owner, they agreed, but she said she had to wait to see what the young 
couple would offer.  So...I gave her $40.00 (actually paid $1 more than she 
asked, which is a First for me!) because at that point, I was determined to 
have it!!!  For my mom (Yeah!)...I told the young couple about another 
machine nearby, a Standard they could get for $15-20 and sent them on their 
way...this way I didn't feel guilty.  I raced home (after stopping at only 
one estate estate sale and buying a nice little pile of fabric for a 
pittance) and showed mom.  Took it to her room (she didn't name it yet) and 
got her up &running and clean, after a quick stop to Singer to pick up some 
bobbins.

It sews like a dream (looks SO much like an FW).  The only problem I have is 
that I have two 99 books...but they are both so old (1930 and 1920?) they 
don't resemble the one I have, with an AM serial# --I am even now in the 
process of TRYING to get through to Singer for birthday.  But I know it's 
about a 1956 or so....what I need is a copy of a recent 99 book, although if 
there is a real manual out there, I would rather have it, but the copy would 
be good, also.  Please let me know if you have, I would be very glad to send 
you the postage and cost of copying, as you request...

In the interlude, I worked feverishly all day on my latest quilt, which I 
have to get finished ASAP, as the baby is due on the 9th and my DH who saw 
the mother-to-be yesterday said I better sew all day and night and take it 
to work....I wish I could...but until I win the lottery, I have to work  in 
order to have money to buy SMs, etc. and food...and the other stuff..

Bye for now...I can't wait to hear from the bunch of you out there...

Mary
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Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 11:03:47 -0700
Subject: Singer 201

Dear fw fans,
I've been trying to catch up my reading of the list, little by little.
I was able to visit our Katy last week or so, her 201 is a major mistake
I made a few weeks ago on the net.
	A california antique dealer offered it to me for $35.00 as a
working machine.  It showed up with a wire cut at the neck so that 
when you plugged it it it would elotrocute you.  (not that I would 
have minded after sending this guy 68.00)  No foot pedal, thats what
was missing. and of course the motor was mealted together, a few 
parts here and there gone ect.  In any case he  was not in any way
affiliated with this list.
 I first told him if I wasnt able to buy it I would post it here for him. 
 Well Harold R. I'm posting the machine now.  If anyone is offered 
a machine for sale from a guy named Harold R. in califorina make 
certain you send a check you can stop payment on.  I felt no one 
would want to be nationaly known as dishonest, but  apparently it 
was worth at least $35. to good old harold.
	Sorry, if you want the guys E mail address you can ask to 
make sure, I really should post it.
	In any case, a few of the parts were worth someting to our 
Katy, and feeling sorry for me she sold me a wonderful machine at 
cost.  So the story has a very happy ending.  I love this 15 more than 
any I have, even more than the FW.
	It hums so quietly you cant tell the moter is engaged.  I feel 
terribly guilty, because I know Katy could have sold it for much 
much more, so thank you again Katy.  Its prettier than a 99, is 
quieter than my Phaff, and best of all I dont have to look at harolds
work and feel like a chump!
	In addition to this I had found an old White portable with
lovely scrollwork, and she had exactly the right attachments. And 
she coppied a manual for it for me at no charge. 
	I also found  our Katy in a magazine called Patchwork
&Quilting  Ideas.  She wrote a terrific article called "Traditional
Values" and pictured are 2 of her quilts, with patterns.  Its
the summer issue 1996, so if you quilt don't miss it.  
	In addition to taking advantage of Katy, I found a darling
little machine in lapeer called a Singer sewhandy electric.  Its the 
worst orange, you know the 60's neon acid orange!  Its a great little
machine, and so outragious I love it.  In addition, a little Katyeet
or something, a cute little german made toy with a wooden base and 
the paint  is in  great shape.
	I was pretty down about getting caught up with my stuff, and
feeling pretty dumb for sending my buddy harold a money order instead 
of a check, So Katy sells me a beautiful 15, provides a manual and 
attachments for the older white, and I find these two wonderful toys.
	I think the score is 1 for the harolds of the world's, and 
about 100 for the rest of the Katies out there.  
	So if your discouraged about not finding an affordable FW 
right away, consider one of the other singers.  It would probably
be Katies model 15 that I would keep if I had to choose only 1
singer to keep.  My Fw is really cute, but it isnt nearly as 
quiet and smooth as my 15.
	Oh, and Katy S, thank you so much for making lemonaid out
of old harolds lemon for me.  This little 15 is much nicer than the
machine I tried to buy!
Huggs, (()) Cheryl
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Date: Thu,  6 Jun 1996 07:22:00 -0700
Subject: Singer 66

          I have just come across a Singer Model 66 which Singer tells
          me was "born" July 20, 1917.  It is in pretty fair shape,
          probably a 5 or 6, but is missing the throat plate.  I
          really don't know anything about machines other than FWs and
          would like to throw out a couple of questions to those more
          knowledgeable:  where could I buy the missing piece and
          approximately how much is this machine worth?  Thanks for
          any help you can offer.

          Barbara W
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:37:33 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 6/5/96

Hello everyone, hope someone can answer a couple of questions about an old
hand-crank Singer I saw.  Went to a swap meet last weekend and was drawn to
this hand-crank Singer with beautiful flowers all over it.  It had a bentwood
cover and a partial box of attachments.  I really loved the floral decoration
on the machine and the decoration looked like it was in good condition.  But,
it was pretty dirty.  My question is how would something like this clean up?
 I would hate to rub the decoration off!  As you can see, I don't know very
much about old machines.  The dealer wanted $300 firm.  I've been thinking
about this all week and don't know what to do.  $300 is a lot of money!  Does
anyone have a guess at what model this is?  

Also, at the same swap meet, a man had many sewing machines and attachments
for sale.  He had boxes of loose attachments, but I didn't have time to
really go through and look for parts #s.  If anyone is looking for misc.
feet, etc.  let me know and I will look next time I go.  He also had some old
Singers, but being unfamiliar with anything except the FW, I don't know the
models.  They were reasonable though, one was $l00 in a cabinet (it was a
centennial-recognized the medallion) and one a small, almost featherweight
sized machine was $50.  I really can't wait to get my copy of Graham's
booklet.  Claire F
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 09:51:22 +0000
Subject: RE: This/That

For All FW Fanatics,
> "Attention Singer Featherweight Owners!  Register your treasure in
> the new, Singer-approved 221 Club Registry.  Includes certificate.
>  SASEto 221 Club, 880 Valley Creek Rd., W Chester, PA 19380"
   Karan: Thanks for bring this to our attention. I'd got my book the 
other day but hadn't gone through it yet. 
   I talked to Bev, the supervisor at Singer Customer Relations 
yesterday morning and she had not heard of this. She took the address 
etc and is going to investigate it. She said she'd contact the 
Marketing Department first. 
   She said she'd contact me with what she finds out. I'll then post 
to the list. Unless someone receives info before I do. 

For: Grayson
>Subject: posting for g.s.
> I would like some Imput.   Its serial number is AK489093.
>as if it were brand new!.     Can anyone enlighten my on its worth?
   While I was on the phone yesterday morning with Singer, I asked 
about this serial number.
   Per Singer: This is a class 15 machine , made 25 July 1951, in the 
US and 50,000 were made. 

My OOPs,
   My sewing machine guru was only with Singer 20 yrs. The FW didn't 
come in a cabinet but Singer made a cabinet for the FW, as they did 
the table. 
   While at Jim's yesterday, he showed me a brochure, original, for 
the FW which shows the FW, the tables, and the cabinet! I'm going to 
get a copy of this. The cabinet has a oval top. It's very 
interesting. Jim showed it to me so I'd know what to look for. 
   I keep at him for things he must have from his time as not only 
working sales and service but management! He must be going through 
closets. He comes out with a little here and there.
   He has 2 of the newer buttonhole attachments. He has a small 
Singer bottle, jar that he's suppose to bring in for me to look at. 
  
Now, do I want to buy this old treadle I've been swooning over or 
take advantage of the deal my son told me for Memory for my computer? 
Oh, my, can I do both. Why do I have to have expensive hobbies!

And Sew it Goes,

Rosemary
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Subject: Escalating Prices
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 22:22:51 -0500

To Mary and all,
Just thought I'd add my latest two cents on escalating FW prices.  Last 
week at a sm shop in Indianapolis I saw a centennial FW, well-used, 
probably a 6, don't know if it had any *extras*.  Asking price was $450. 
 Now that price didn't shock me, but the trying-too-hard-to-impress-me 
sales guy says, "You know, these are selling for $1000 down in Texas!"  
How about it, Texan FWFanatics, anyone picked up a $1000 fw lately?  Or 
is that the model that comes with its own oil well???

Same shop, same guy brought out from the back room the SORRIEST-looking 
301 I have seen and said he'd "have to have $225 for it".  He didn't say 
whether that was before or after overhaul, and I didn't ask.  He 
informed me that was what I would pay if I bought one from a shop 
(please don't tell my local shop that...).

This list makes us informed consumers!  Thanks, everybody, for all the 
great information here!

Glad to be back, though server's down so this may not get through for 
awhile...arrrgghh!
Joy 
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Subject: Pinch me, I must be dreaming!
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 1996 23:59:36 -0500

Hi all,
I used to drive down this one street with a row of tidy little houses, 
and couldn't help but think that it looked like a place where a fw would 
live.  So last Friday when one house there was having a yard sale, I 
decided to stop there early on my circuit.

There was a ton of stuff, but I quickly spied two small cases sitting 
together, neither of which Iooked like any sm case I had seen before, 
but one had a Singer buttonholer and edgestitcher resting on top.  My 
heart skipped as I knelt down and saw Singer on the handle of the other 
case. I lifted the Singer-handled top (tan linen and burgundy), to 
reveal a beautiful 99K, the first I'd ever seen.  Now with my growing 
sewing machine collection taking over the house, I wasn't really in the 
market for a 99K, but it was so pretty and... what was the 
price?....$5!!!  That settled that.  Still a bit dazed by this sudden 
fortune (I've been to a lot of dud sales), I remember there's another 
case still sitting there unopened.  This one is a  nice two-tone beige 
and I really don't have a clue as to what's inside...a featherweight!  I 
lifted it out to be sure it wasn't one of those knock-offs.  YES!!!  
It's an AE, well-used, but looks cared-for, also has a disintegrating 
box with attachments and a taped up manual.  I already know I'm buying 
this one too, but hadn't even noticed the price tag...hold on to your 
hats...$8!!!  And that includes the buttonholer and the edgestitcher!  I 
am totally numb at this point, my only thought being, grab these, pay 
for them, and get them to your van, NOW.  After securely locking them 
in, it dawned on me that I hadn't thought to ask about a table  (how 
long can this go on, anyway?), so I went back.  No, the owner had never 
had the table, but I did learn that she is a quilter and the SIL of one 
of my DH's co-workers.  Why she wanted to give up the fw is beyond me, 
though she did say it needed "adjusting", and commented on her 
arthritis.  The 99K belonged to her daughter, who apparently doesn't 
share her mother's love of sewing, as that machine is an 8+.

Once I got home and really looked at my treasures, I discovered the 99K 
has no attachments or manual (I really need that threading diagram...), 
BUT I looked under the lid and there is an oval oil can!  The fw case 
puzzles me.  This is a black machine, is this two-tone case for a tan 
fw?  It doesn't match the white case in Nancy S-J's book.  Other goodies 
with the fw included two pair of embroidery scissors (one old?), a 
neat-o nested screwdriver, and the extra set of cams for the 
buttonholer.  I cleaned some lint out of the fw and oiled it, seems to 
run nicely.  My daughter is quite taken with it, saying, "Is this one 
for ME?"  My thought exactly.

I know, I know, I'll stop gushing now!  I just can't believe all 
this---It's really wonderful to have understanding hearts to share with 
(thanks, Jean!).  Thanks for listening everybody...

Still floating,
Joy
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Date: 6 Jun 1996 18:31:02 +0000
Subject: Stuff (Response to 6/5/96)

I called up about a "singer in a cabinet" for $35....they didn't know the 
model #, said they would call me back...they had a lot of calls, because 
they were also selling Air Condition, tables, chairs, furniture and 
stuff...and the husband said as I was talking to the wife (in the 
background, but I heard him...) and there's some kinda portable in a case 
under all the clothes....so I said (CASUALLY...because if they were selling 
a Cabinet number for $35, what would they want for the yukky portable 
?????????????????????)..."is it a sorta ugly black case"....and he said 
YES.....I said (casually) "well, I would be interested in that, too....so 
they are supposed to go over to the mother's house, where all this stuff is 
and look for the serial numbers and call me back on the two machines.....

So, the morale of this story is as has been told before:  take time to ask 
questions, look around.........and the other thing;  both the mom &dad BOTH 
had worked many years for.......................SINGER, right in 
Elizabeth!!!  So I said...look around and see if there's any of the old 
singer stuff, books, attachments, oil (cans) and whatever, that I would be 
interested....so, I'm holding my breath here at work, watching the phone to 
see if it will ring and it will be them......I'm out of 
here.................it's probably too good to be true, but I sure am 
excited at the prospect...it makes the adrenaline FLOW............ 


To  Kolleen 

Don't feel bad, I have...gulp...25 so far....and am running out at lunch 
time to an estate sale...I figger it beats drugs and alcohol and 
indiscriminate affairs....those little things just have a thing about them 
that makes me want them...I'm so happy to learn that I'm not alone!!!! 
 Fabric---well, my mom moved in with me, with HER fabric....oh my!  I don't 
have the foggiest where we will put it all....but we will, somehow...just 
like the Collier Brothers........I am so enthralled with the story of your 
new acquisition....you are so-o-o--o lucky....Enjoy...that's not at all 
bragging....that's sharing your joy!!!!  Makes it more enjoyable, at least 
that's how I see it; of course, my DH wouldn't agree, I'm sure--

Just got back from a mad, mad run... the traffic around here is not . 
 All they had was a very venerable old, old Commodore, which is a new one on 
me.  Since they wanted a dollar for a paperback, I didn't bother, plus I 
could live without it...

To Clay &Shelly  

I shouldn't ask, but can't resist, of course....asking you about where is 
the machine/service shop that has the 30 301's in the warehouse for about 
$100....to me, that sounds good.  I am definitely (altho' of course, I 
shouldn't be) interested.  After all, I DO have the manual ...so if you 
could be so kind as to let me know....

To Bob S 

I really loved your posting.....I'm a quilter and would definitely be 
interested in discussing a deal for FW....I am hoping to get:  one that is 
AM, AN? or so...the statistics say they were made until 1964....so why can't 
anyone come up with one from the 60's?  Also one of the 68-70 models, white, 
or greenish white, whatever, and a free arm (but have little hope in getting 
that) and a FW table....I would be very pleased to work out a deal involving 
wall hanging(s) made either to your specs or mine, whichever lights your 
fire...where in Upstate NY are you?  I live in New Jersey but am not 
terribly familiar with a lot of New York, beyond NYC (+bouroughs), West 
Point, Poughkipsie, &Somers...(quilt shows, etc.)

To Graham:

Ask your beloved to let us know, if she is informed, of the next airing of 
"The Secret Life of The Sewing Machine" and "Collectomania" so we (I) can 
watch &tape them...are you &Maggie in it?  So we can actually see our 
Muse?  And....we (I) are waiting now for #19, since we have learned that you 
ACTUALLY HAVE AT LEAST UP TO 30 COMPLETED!!!..."You keep me hangin' 
on.........." dum-dum, de-dum.

Til the next time, Mary
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:14:18 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: "Singer Approved"

Hi All!
	I was intrigued by the "Singer-approved 221 Club Registry" that 
Karan mentioned was advertised in Keepsake Quilting's newsletter. 
	I called Singer and was refered to Maher Husseini who is in 
Sales/Advertising. He was very interested in finding out more about the 
advertisement, and told me he had no knowledge about it. He did inform me 
that if "Singer-approved" was used without authorization, that it would 
be a violation of trademark. "221" and "Featherweight" must not be 
copyrighted because he didn't seem to have a problem with their use.
	He then refered me to Evelyn Sepulveda who is in Education and 
Training. She assured me that the only club Singer is associated with is 
Singer's own club for Singer dealers, and that there would be no other 
Singer site or division that could have approved it, and that she 
would be aware of any club approved by Singer. But of course, the 
cliche about the right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing is 
often true, and not to doubt Mr. Husseini or Ms. Sepulveda, but you never 
know...  Anyway, I would think that if an organization was approved, that 
at least customer service would have knowledge of it so that they could 
pass information along.
	Ms. S asked for a copy of the ad and told me she would 
let me know if there is any other information she can give me on it.
	I hope this 221 Club registry isn't just a way of getting 
people's money, or of finding out where the machines are! 

Happy Featherweighting,	
Krisi S
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:26:00 -0400
Subject: What the Heck did I Buy?  And Why?

I've been reading this list for a couple of months now and have been drooling
over everyone's acquisitions.  Sunday morning I woke up at 5:30 to make it to
our local flea market where  I talked myself out of buying a Davis treadle,
an old Singer treadle (cabinet not the best) and a White Rotary without a
case.  Exhausted from all this struggling, I finally spent my birthday money
and bought an old Singer in a cabinet.  I guess I had woken up too early,
because after I got home I realized that the cord to the foot pedal was cut!
 Funny thing, too -- the dealer had assured me that they had tried it out and
it worked perfectly ;)

Since I couldn't figure out how to thread the machine and the cord would have
to be repaired professionally (and I was pretty disgusted with myself and
wanted it out of  sight), I dropped it off on Monday at the local repair
shop.  This fellow doesn't have a real good record of returning things in a
timely manner; in fact, if he doesn't fix my machine promptly, DH is
threatening to load all my other machines into the pickup and take them over
to him, too (figures it's a cheap storage solution).  

Can someone give me an idea as to what model of machine this might be?  It is
a black, full-sized, heavy machine with some gold decoration.  The face plate
is striated like the later FWs, but there were no increments on the throat
plate.  The handwheel wasn't chromed.  The tension system was behind the head
rather than in the front like a Featherweight.  The SN was on a plate at the
front, like the old treadles.  Aside from the cut cord and missing spool pin,
the machine seemed to be in pretty good shape.  Does this sound like a model
that's worth repairing?  On the plus side, I can put another sewing machine
on the cabinet and it came with a like-new buttonholer in the green plastic
case (complete with manual).

Much thanks for any help.  I think I'll try drinking coffee to wake me up
before I go flea-marketing again!

Diana 
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Date: 06 Jun 96 19:30:11 EDT
Subject: Contribution 18

True story number eighteen

A great friend has just died.
He lived in NYC and I first met him 25 years ago when, after a minor heart
attack he decided to sell his typewriter collection , not wishing his wife to be
faced with the prospect of dealing with it on his eventual death.
Ours was a business deal conducted in a business-like manner and our handshake
would have been the end of our relationship had it not have been for the less
than generous antics of another New Yorker.
This second guy was a sewing-machine collector who had told me of the wonders of
Brimfield Antique Show. He invited me over, would pick me up at JFK Airport and
transport me to his brother's house in Mass which would be our headquarters for
the three-day adventure.
I arrived at the airport feeling like hell after an eight-hour flight but could
not find my buddy. After an hour I rang his home. No answer. I tried his office.
He was there and simply told me that he didn't think he'd be able to make the
trip after all.
So there I was, no driving licence and unable to hire a car. What to do?
I phoned the only other guy I knew in the Big Apple -- the ex-typewriter
collector, explained my problem and asked if he happened to be going to
Brimfield. 
"I am now", he  said.
Half an hour later he arrived at the airport and we were off.
It was only years into a wonderful friendship that I discovered that for a
relative-stranger he'd shut up his shop for three days, cancelled a visit from
his children, an anniversary dinner and a theater trip.
He was that kinda guy.
Since then we've met at least twice a year, sometimes in London, sometimes in
New York. I almost turned him from a Democrat to a Republican --  but not quite.
He almost turned me from an agnostic to a Christian -- but not quite.
And then a phone call to tell me he had died.
Forgive me for wanting to share my grief. I've lost family members, of course,
but somehow this is more of a wrench. I guess you chose close friends but family
comes with the territory. 
I'm beginning to ramble now, but it hurts.
His wife is coming over to see us very soon. I going to take her to his
favourite restaurant, sit her at his favourite table, re-live all the good times
and toast, with his favourite drink, the memory of a real American gentleman.

Graham F
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Subject: needles for singer toy machines

Just wanted to let everyone know that this machine will use a 24x1 class
needle. The Hamilton Ross also uses the same needle.

I really have enjoyed reading the news letter. I just searched my basement
and found I have the following machines. a 99k, 185k, 2-201's, 2-15's, 3-66's
beige sgr. toy mach. 127, 27, and a 128.

Mike 
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Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 21:17:53 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/25 &5/26/96

I didn't realize how much I missed this newsletter ! : )

Memorial Day in St.Louis is Gypsy Caravan day.  I guess you would call it St.
Louis' answer to Brimfield (?)  It's the annual fund raiser for the Symphony.
 I saw two FWs one at $300, and the other at $350.  Both were in 9+ condition
and came with case.  The second one also had the accessory box and manual.
 Also saw my first 301, so now I know what you're talking about ; )  Also saw
a Putnam Dye cabinet from the 20's.  I was headed back to get that when I
found this cute little machine.  I have seen them before but never in this
good of condition!  It's one of those tiny little hand crank Singers.  It's
about 6 inches (15 cm) tall and the same wide.   It's a squared "C" shape
with a single pedestal foot.  The chrome "table" is 3"x 3" (7.5 cm x 7.5 cm).
 With a screw on seam guide.  On the front is the name "Singer" and on the
back is the logo, not an attached one, but a decal.  It came in a round blue
leatherette case.  I stopped in at the Costume shop where I do part time
work.  Our "Font of Wisdom" thought it might be from the 20's because of the
design of the logo.  There was a big discussion as to whether the case was
really for the machine or not, but the lining fabric is a 20's calico.  It
fits in it like dream and has a flat side that the pedestal foot fits right
onto.  There are also some loops on the inside of the lid, that at one time
might have held some extras.  One other person said that she had one like it
at her parents, that had belonged to her Grandmother, and that one is in the
original cardboard box.  The threading is easy to figure out because the
holes are numbered.  I seem to be missing the tension gauge, there's a
threaded part that definitely need something on it.  I'm also missing the
clamp that would hold it to the table.   The only number I can find on it is
on the chain stitching hook.  SIMAMCO 29945 USA.  Anyone have any info on
this baby??

OK here's quiz question!!  How many Mother/Daughter (or Sons, or Fathers or
whatever other combination you can think of) members are there?  I know
there's me and mine and Sherrie (who should be in Mississippi) and her mom
Jean. 

Judy 
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Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 21:21:47 -0500
Subject: 301's

To Clay and Shelly,  I bought a 301 in a cabinet about a  month ago in
almost perfect condition, black, so streamlined and pretty.  It sews very
nicely and I'm so pleased with it that I've had it open ever since so I
could admire it as I walked through my sewing room.  It was at a flea market
and the asking price was $120 and I paid $90. so it looks like the price he
is asking is pretty fair but others might have different opinions.  Mine had
no manual or attachments or warranty so you have a better deal. Carol


Carol
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Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 20:51:31 PST
Subject: 99k; ISMACS

Well, today was a good day.  Made a stop at the Salvation Army 
store enroute to buy binding for a graduation quilt and walked out 
with a sweet little 99K for $39.  A 6 due to rust spots on the gold 
paint, the fabric had been stripped from its lovely wooden cabinet.  
While I'd never be tempted to undress my FW, now that I see the 
wood beneath the fabric, it really is lovely.  The serial number 
begins EL so I presume it's 1956 or so, and made in GB.  I assume 
it's been used here, so I'll plug it in, even though the round plug 
does't look quite usual.  Some Salvation Army store now have 
separate sections they call "Boutiques."  This is where I found the 
99k (as well as a 99 or 66 with its knee crank in the wooden 
domed box that I didn't buy because I already have one).  In San 
Diego the Boutique is a separate building and had several early 
treadle and portables at good prices.  Their conditions were not 
that great, however.

As an aside, you Nordstrom types will realize how serious the 
sewing machine fever has become when I tell you that I got to the 
Spring sale by 8:30 a.m. but when I got home I lined the new 
clothes up and decided to return a lot of them because I kept 
thinking, "Yes, I'll wear this for a year or two, but what sewing 
machine that I'll enjoy for many more years could I buy for that 
price??"  

Then, when I got home, I found my ISMACS material and 
immediately sat down to read cover to cover.  The journal comes 
with a color photo attached to the cover....a great idea...and the 
personalities of Graham and Maggie really come through.  But 
they are also in the photos of the group activities so I was able to 
put faces to the wonderful stories Graham writes for us.  No photo 
of Dizzie Dog in the numbers I saw, however. 

Reading about the adventures (an outing to Torquay to see the 
Singer Mansion, for example, sans Basil Fawlty it appears) of the 
ISMACS family makes me envious of the opportunities (and the 
fun) I'm missing.  The auction report proved surprisingly 
interesting, because of the picture it gives of prices collectors 
actually pay.  It confirms my suspicion that machines (both toy 
and regular) in shops in California, at least, are scarce, of poor 
quality, and optimistically but ignorantly overpriced.  But then, 
most shops sell treadles as decorator furniture items.  And if you 
think we have wonderful tales to tell of $10 FWs, one collector 
(who apparently lives in the next city from me) found an old barn 
with 300 old sewing machines and bought 30 of them.

Anyway, if you've been thinking about joining ISMACS, I 
encourage you to try it.

A very good day indeed.

Sandy W
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 00:10:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Models 301 and 15

First of all, let me say thanks to all of you who responded to my earlier 
post about a Model 15-91 I was considering.  You saved me from making a 
BIG mistake (Maggie, Rosemary, Karen &Ingrid).

On to the 301.  This seems like old news now, but it's really less than 
two weeks since I found her -- my two tone oyster white/beige 301A.  I'd 
never even laid eyes on one before, but thanks to this list I was 
primed.  It's truly in fantastic shape, looks like it was hardly used and 
I was able to sit down and try it right in the middle of a flea market 
before I bought it.  It's a two cord model with the shorter extension 
bed.  It came with a bentwood case, but unfortunately no attachments or 
manual.  I've since gotten a copy of the manual -- thanks Chris -- and 
can't wait to find one of every original attachment.  This $40 machine 
may end up costing hundreds!  This guy has another 301A which is missing 
its foot pedal (single plug type) and I'm considering it as well.

It's even inspired me to get busy on a few quilt projects.  The quality 
of the stitch is terrific and it just hums along.  The funny part is when 
I received the copy of the manual, I discovered the bobbin was threaded 
slightly wrong.  It still sewed a near perfect stitch and much better 
than my "modern" Singer.

So anyone got any spare 301 parts taking up space they want to get rid 
of?  Let me hear from you!

Joan
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 22:52:40 -0600
Subject: FWF Anonymous

Mary wrote:
>...I'm going to have to start a support group called
FWFA...FeatherWeightFanatics >Anonymous...,  Friday is only 2 days away...

Sign me up for this group .. FW#6 came home today (EF probably 1949) with
even keys! ($150 Cdn).  At another place, I got my first FW table in great
condition ($75 Cdn).  I think both were deals as far as I am concerned.

Why wait for the weekend.  I have better luck on the phone at noon hour.  I
am waiting for the arrival of #7, and they are mostly from phone home repair
shops or the local 'Bargain Finder'.

Plus the FW's, I have acquired in the last two months another 99 (really bad
condition, but nice cabinet for $35); a Spartan, my favourite to use (bad
cabinet, but really nice machine for $35)and I put the Spartan in the good
99 cabinet; a 15K88 1949 treadle in a great cabinet with drawers ($100 and
probably too much for this, but Graham says that a machine is worth what you
want to pay and I wanted this machine).

Yesterday, I brought home the really small Elna Lotus.  This model has only
zigzag and buttonhole built in (no cams), but it is really small, like an
old portable radio.  I sews pretty well, but I want a short-shank zigzag to
attach the 'Miracle Stitcher' from the Sears 100 that is going to my
daughter.  The Lotus doesn't like the clear plastic thread that I use to
make banners for my Rotary Club.

By the way, if there is anyone on this list coming to the world Rotary
convention in Calgary this June (a few weeks away), let me know.  I would
like to meet up with another FWF and I may even be persuaded to part with a
machine or two to a loved home -- even a white one.

Kathy
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 06:31:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: ANOTHER FW

I was such a bad girl yesterday - there was another auction with a "small
sewing machine in a case" and of course I went to check it out. All the
while, I'm telling myself that I won't buy it if it's just another fw or
unless it goes really cheaply, but then when I saw it, I had to have it.
It's a later one (AL) with the less fancy gold trim, black band around the
Singer label, and came with a tube of lubricant and oil can that looked
untouched, a box of attachments in the best condition I've seen (the box
that is), a new looking manual that's different from the usual green ones,
AND a brand new zigzagger (like the one I just found for the 301). The case
is also in good shape, once I can figure out how to get the mildew cleaned
off it - why did so many people store their fws in damp basements?? Anyways,
I ended up paying $200 once again and now have 8 of these dears!! It really
is a disease and I think I need help, but there's always just that something
different that makes me not able to resist. If anyone out there lives in the
Albany, NY area, I think auctions are the place to go to find fws - I sure
do see a lot of them, and I have to stop buying SOMEDAY! Sue M.
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Subject: Photo in ad of White Singer
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:11:13 -0400

In the latest issue of Better Homes &Gardes, "American Patchwork &
Quilting" there is an ad on page 7 that shows a really nice White Singer 
sewing machine.  Does anyone know what model it is?  It is so BEAUTIFUL!

I saw a black Singer SM in the window of a newly opened fabric store in 
a nearby  small town.  It belongs to the antique store two doors down 
and is for sale.  I find myself thinking about it a lot.  I visited a 
site in the Internet that has photos of antique Singer SMs and it may be 
a model 201.  It is in good condition, has a beautiful domed wooden case 
and also has its buttonholer sitting next to it (I didn't try it out 
yet). The serial number begins with "AL" so I believe it is from the 
1950's.  The asking price is $75.   I have trouble knowing what to pay 
for antique SMs.  What do you all think?  I'd appreciate any advice 
given.   I enjoy reading everyone's postings.  
Jill W
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 08:02:44 -0500
Subject: need part for standard sewhandy

      Hi,
I am trying to find the hook for a standard sewhandy machine, it holds the
bobbin case. If anyone has one or knows where I can find one please e-mail
me. Also I'm trying to find the covers for 2 fiddle base treadles. Thank you
,   any help is appreciated.
Doreen
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 09:05:48 -0500
Subject: Graham's true story #18

Graham,

I've always said that 'true' sisters or brothers are chosen, not the ones
you are born with/to (sorry for the grammer).

What a great , touching story.  Hope you had a wonderful time, I'm sure he
was right there with you!

Smiling through the tears,

Sherrie
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Date: 07 Jun 96 11:39:36 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To Rosemary re FW brochure.

Would like a copy to help illustrate  FW articles in ISMACS News if that's
possible.

TIA

To Mary 

Don't have any dates for the next screening of Secret Life of the Sewing 
Machine
on TV. This was a part of a series dealing with various household appliances.
Maggie featured with a selection of her collection.The company which made it
sold it to Channel 4 -- our off-beat channel who then sold it to Discovery in
American As far as I know it's been shown about 5 times on Discovery and PSB 
(or
is it PBS).
The new show is called Collectormania and features various odd ball collections
including Maggie's sewing machines. It's due to be shown here later this mopnth
and the producers tell me that its been sold to a company that sells on to
America but that's all I know. I don't get to appear, only Maggie which is as 
it
should be -- it's really her collection, started by her mom.


To Judy

Your toy is a Singer 20, first made 1917 and thru to the 1930s. The fact that 
it
has the numbered key for threading makes it one of the later varieties. Have
only seen them in printed cardboard boxes and one in a Singer "Steamer Trunk"
box with lots of accessories that's in the MS collection.


To Sandy

Welcome to ISMACS, the new magazine should get posted out within 10 days -- I'm
working on it now. You'll enjoy CY's article on coloured Feratherweights.
As you say, knowledge of what the real collector world is paying for machines 
is
the only true source of information over prices.
Your 99K was made in 1956 -- the EL series was used all that year.

TO ALL 
I've just come back from Newark Showground in the centre of England. It's the
largest antique show in the world with 6000 plus dealers with outside and 
inside
pitches.
Only one really rare sewing machine turned up. It was a Judkins from 1865-70.
Chas Tiot Judkins was an enterprsing American who bought the British rights to 
a
chain-stitch patent from New Englander Chas Raymond. Judkins produced very few
machines in this country before Raymond went to Canada, started a factory, and
via a British Member of Parliamnet, James Weir, who set up as an importer,
flooded the market with cheap machines.
Thus, today, Weir machines are easily found but Judkins are a real rarity.
Plenty of later (1900 to 1950) machines at Newark. One dealer specialises in 
the
Model 12, 15, 27 type machines and in the many clones that were produced in
Germany. Prices for 8 condition machines were 15 pounds (that around $24) for
anything in a  bent-wood case and 12 pounds ($19) for square fabric-cased
models.
Had a word with him at the end of the show. He sold about 25 -- probably a 
third
of what he'd brought along. Most went to the Continent and Japan as decorator
pieces. He told me he buys them at yard sales etc for a max of five pounds ($
12).
Only buys clean ones as he doesn't even dust them and can only sell what he
called "perfect examples".
I also saw a few what are "middle of the road" machines here including Willcox
and Gibbs in 4 to 6 condition . All priced 'way too high at over 90 pounds
($150) and not sold.
There were probably 20 dedicated collectors and dealers looking for rare sewing
machines and I was lucky to get the Judkins first hand for 50 pounds ($80). Had
it passed through a couple of dealers before getting to us the price would have
multiplied a few times.
You don't have to win them all -- just the ones that count.
Maggie sells her mechanical antiques at Newark and at times her pitch looks 
like
a miniature ISMACS meeting with all the collectors gathering to moan at finding
nothing or to display the latest aquisition.
Newark is held every two months . If anyone is planning a vacation in the UK it
would be worth making it so as to match with Newark dates. Newark is only a
couple of hours from London.. If I can help with dates or other information let
me know.

Graham F
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 13:37:40 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 6/7/96

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    I need help.  I have found a treadle machine in
a local thrift store.  It does sew.  The machine itself looks to be in fairly
good condition...few scratches, lots of color.  The cabinet was in fair
condition, except the veneer was missing off of the very top piece that folds
back when the machine is up.  They want $125 for it. The registration number
is  G5529257.   Is this a good deal.  I would like to know right away, so
that if it is a good deal, that I won't miss a bargain.  Thanks for any and
all help that you can give!!!

Marci
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 13:44:57 -0400
Subject: Re:

Sorry,  also they had an old Singer that the man called a 3/4 machine.  It
was about the size of a featherweight, but is looked like it belonged in a
cabinet.  The serial code was AK528205.  He wanted $30 for it.  If anyone is
interested let me know and I will go back and get it.  Thanks again!!!
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 13:52:22 -0400
Subject: Re: Singer phone number

Does anyone have the 1-800 number for Singer?  If you could pass it on I
would appreciate it.  Thanks!

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Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 08:42:27 -0700
Subject: Subscribe, Wanted

Cleaning and reorganizing my fabric stash, I came across an old curved 
wooden box that was very heavy.  My mom left it there when she moved into 
her new house.  It wouldn't open but good ole organized mom had the key. 
 It was her mother's sewing machine.  I don't know if it qualifies as a 
FW but it is a 1926 Singer with a hand crank.  It is black, has wonderful 
shiny plates with grape vines and and ornate painted decor.  I turned the 
handle and it ran without a creak.  It has a very stange bobbin and a box 
of attachments, but unfortunately, no manual.  Is it possible to find one 
out there?
Please sign me up for the digest.  I have been receiving the BFC Digest 
and loving every minute!  Thank you you wonderful people!
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:20:12 -0400
Subject: Singer oil cans &needles

I'm curious.  I'd love to know what the Singer oil cans look like.  I have
one from a '25 99-13.  3 1/2 inches tall, grey metal, round base, engraved
Singer.  What do the others look like?  How many different ones?  Would love
to have one for my '50 FW.  Has clamp in case but no oil can.  Also, with
regards to needles.  I have several packages of Singer needles.  Two are in
green paper with big red S for Singer.  One, I believe is in a beige paper.
 And then I just ordered &received some 24X1 from Singer.  They are Singer
needles.  Question:  does Singer still make needles?  I bought a beautiful
99-13 '28 for $35 with so many goodies inside.  Even has a Singer light bulb.
 Thought that must be old.  Anyone out there an expert who would share your
knowledge?  Thanks!!  Mari in N. Cal. where my weekend project is to make a
patchwork picnic tablecloth for my son's 2nd grade teacher--a good-bye gift
for the best teacher a kid could hope for.  Class is giving a weekend in
Carmel, money for lunch or dinner and a picnic basket loaded with goodies.
 Thought that was a nice gift!
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Subject: 1887 Singer
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 16:08:29 -0400

I need some expert advice from all you "antique SM" buffs.  09
I just went to my local junque store and ther was this "old" Singer, 
bentwood case, the usual gold scroll work and lettering  but red work as 
well.  The serial # is 7621803.  I called Singer and was told that this 
is a Singer "New Family", born on July 13, 1887.20
The machine has a hand crank and not in mint condition (I wouldn't be 
either if I was that old). 20
Betty R. suggested to me that this could be a chain stitch machine.   
Since I  have never seen a SM like this before, I am really dumbfounded. 
 It has two throat plate covers exactly where a bobbin would go.  
Can anyone offer some insight regarding this machine?  I have to run 
back to the store now to put a deposit on it.   Many thanks, Lois W 
 
(Before I  linked up with FWF's in April, I never thought I would be 
interested in old SMs.  My life has changed!!  Of course, my DH things I 
have totally and completely lost my head.  H collects new lawnmowers.)
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Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 19:37:54 -0500
Subject: Computer or Treadle?

Rosemary, no contest, put the treadle on layaway and pay for your computer
memory.  That sewing machine will only get better while it sits and you can
take advantage of the computer.  My computer just went out for a faster
modem and bigger hard drive.  I would like a copy of the bro chure on the
cabinets for FW's if you would do so.  Just email and tell me how much.  Carol 
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Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 19:54:25 -0500
Subject: Texas Prices

I was in Houston not too long ago and saw several FW's in a Singer shop.
When I asked the price he assured me that none of them were for sale but if
they were then the price would be right at $1000!  Maybe your guy was in the
same shop Jeff.


Carol
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 20:53:42 -0400 (EDT)

To Joy: OK, you win!  The $8 FW story even beats the previous one about
buying one for $10 at a garage sale from a bunch of nuns (I swear this is
in the archives somewhere)!  BTW, the one and only tan FW I'v ever seen
did come in a beige and tan case.

A favor: well, I'm not exactly infecting my quilt group with the FW bug (a
couple of us have them already, so maybe the rest of them have picked up
some kind of "immunity"), but I do have two members taking newfound
interest in their treadles.  Which brings me to the point: can anyone
provide an approximate date for a White treadle, SN  FR2620432??  This
one's in a nice 4-drawer cabinet and has one of those neat rulers inlaid
on the top.  The other individual has a New Royal.  I didn't get the SN
because the machine was turned the other way.  I'm trying to get her to at
least quit feeding her cats on top of it.

Re: Martha Washington cabinet.  If you check page 102 of the July issue of
"Country Living", in the lower right corner there appears the left half
of what is described as "a c.1810 lyre-base worktable."   You can just see
the two drawer pulls on the front, and a pull located at the side.  This
strikes me as very closely resembling what has been described as a "Martha
Washington" sewing cabinet.  Check it out!

Re: Shuttles -- ok, Graham.  Based on your sound professional advice I
will (someday) be pricing my extra shuttles somewhere between $5 and $2000
!

To Courtney: Please take care of yourself, and allow yourself time to
heal!  I'll be keeping you in my thoughts.

Lydia
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Date: Fri,  7 Jun 1996 21:55:53, -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/25 &5/26/96

Hi everyone!  I have been reading messages for about a month and find
everything very interesting.  My DH recently purchased a 1948 FW at a
garage sale for $200 with a table and oil can.  The only problem is that it
has not been opened for a long time and has a terrible mildew smell as does
the table.  Any suggestions?  I have another 1948 FW.  Both begin with AH
serial number but one has fancy scrollwork on the end and one has the
plainer scrollwork on the end.  Why would that be?
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Subject: Re: Machine Parts
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 96 18:37:47 -0700

Hi FWF's!
  I've been enjoying reading your posts the last 3-4 weeks. Now I have a 
couple questions to post as well.
  The handle to my FW case is in poor shape. Is it possible to obtain 
another one short of taking the case to a shoe/suitcase repair place? My 
FW also has a badly frayed cord. Anyone know of a place that could sell 
me a new one? I'm afraid to use it right now since I'm deathly afraid of 
sparks and fires and explosions and such.  : )
  A couple years back I was teaching some students how to sew and somehow 
my 319W we were using jammed solid. The teacher whose room I was using 
and a student dismantled the mechanism that holds the bobbin and bobbin 
case and everything got un-jammed, but somehow the part that holds the 
bobbin case won't turn smoothly anymore. My dad worked on it during a 
visit, and he said something must have gotten bent and I should purchase 
another part. Except Singer says that part isn't made anymore and the 
repair person in the next town down the highway says I won't be able to 
obtain one for less that $300.00. Any resource suggestions on how to fix 
this poor machine would be greatly appreciated. 
  I saw a couple posts about having treadle machines with no treadle. I 
have the iron works to a treadle but there wasn't a machine when I 
purchased it (about 7 years ago in another state) and when my DH 
attempted to refinish the woodwork, it fell apart. (He also disposed of 
the pieces.) Unfortunately, the frame doesn't seem to be a Singer one, 
but the foot pedal is made of small octogons that from a distance look 
like circles and the sides have metalwork in the shape of ovals. I now 
have 2 other treadles in a very small house, so I'm sure DH would not 
feel sad if anyone happens need that specific part....
  About the first post I received had Graham's explanation on why he 
doesn't give out prices. I can see his point, but I also just came back 
from 2 months of settling my grandmother's estate in Tennessee. The gal 
who did the sale used the identification/price guides extensively. We 
knew the book prices were inflated and generally marked things at least 
half of the listed dealer price, but at least it gave us a point of 
reference--and we sure needed one! When my dad is standing there saying 
its junk--haul it to Goodwill and the books indicate a dealer price of 
$100, its nice to know that $25-50 would be a fair price. If you really 
want to confuse the sewing machine market, Graham should write his book 
and lower the prices by half! At least then I could afford that ellusive 
white FW!  (teehee)
  Finally to Doreen about the folding wooden box with machine 
assessories. I too got an assessory box with my #2 Vibrating Shuttle. I'm 
fairly certain they belong together. Haven't had a chance to play with 
all of them, but everything in time.

Juanita C
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Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:26:49 -0400
Subject: 301 to the rescue

I'm just back from a quilt camp called Pines &Needles, held in the Sierra
foothills.  I had a wonderful time. (Camp sponsored by Fabrications of Grass
Valley, CA)

I took along one of my Featheweights, and a backup machine -- my cocoa 301A.
 Good thing I did.  The FW acted up on the second day, lots of loops
underneath and screwy tension.  I tried to fix it, but I had miles of sewing
to do and couldn't waste time.  Pulled out my trusty 301A and it sewed like a
dream.  Thank goodness I brought it.

A fellow quilt camper brought her 301A.  She said she had purchased it new
and it keeps on going.  She does not have another machine.  There were five
or six other FWs there and they all looked so cute.

I really, really want another 301.  I would perfer a black one.  If anyone
has one to sell in good condition, please let me know.

Christine T.
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 00:54:12 +1200 (NZST)
Subject: My new family folk-story....

Hi Folks, boy do I have a tale for you! I haven't posted about my FW 
ramblings/searches since late last year when I finally found my 
Eithne-Holly (EH 1951), remember that? I awoke early one morning to hear 
a guy advertising a small light sm on the radiostation garage sale! 
Forty minutes later (the time it took me to jump out of bed, ring and 
shout in his ear DON'T SELL IT I'm on my way, get dressed and drive 
there!) she was all mine for $NZ120 ($US80). A month or so before that I 
had picked up my first bargain at a school fair for $5 thinking it might 
be a FW, at this stage I had only vaguely heard tell of FW's but hadn't 
taken much notice. This one turned out to be a 99k and after cleaning 
her up found she was a little beauty, named her Francine-May (after the 
Francie who rang Singer for me and the month she was born, ER-May 60).
Anyway, at present we have son #4 staying with us until July so I don't 
have room for too many sm's so haven't been looking (much). Yesterday I 
was idly looking through the local advertising paper under Sewing &
Knitting, wasn't taking much notice as after ringing up dozens of ads 
for weeks and weeks looking for FW's I'd really given up, when I nearly 
fell over, an ad for a 222k would you believe! The paper was two days 
old so my heart sank when I thought oh heck it'll be gone by now, BUT I 
rang anyway - ever the optimist, and left a message on the answerphone. 
To cut a long story short the outcome was as of 9am this morning I'm the 
new proud owner of a 222k featherweight convertible portable Singer 
sewing machine, about a 7.5 on the Forsdyke scale but definately a 10 on 
mine! She's an EL so what better name to call her than Elle? It's her 
40th birthday this year I would say, is there anyone out there who is 
about to ring Singer for a birthday that wouldn't mind asking about mine 
too please? Her SN is: EL 182834 - made in Great Britain.
And I won't hold you in suspense any longer, I AM going to tell you how 
much I paid, even though I've noticed there's a LOT of people on this 
list who don't ever mention it, is that an American thing, is it crass 
to talk about money or something? I HATE it when we get all these lovely 
stories about bargains and wonderful finds and they don't tell you how 
much they paid for their treasures! Enough, enough - turn on your 'green 
with envy' looks - she wanted $NZ120 but I managed to beat her down to 
$NZ100 because she'd lost/misplaced the box of attachments and there's 
a tiny screw missing in the bobbin case base! None of your $1500 here, 
$NZ100  $US68, which included a worse for wear manual, a singer oil can 
and needles, two bobbins, two small screw-drivers and one key for the 
case, and the very BEST thing of all, a 1/4" seam mark!!!
Actually it only cost me $95, I found a $5 note sitting on my front lawn 
the same day :), I think I'm on a roll, I'm off to the local Sunday 
fleamarket tomorrow morning.......nope make that THIS morning, I need to 
get some sleep but I'm too excited!
(Contrary to what the time in the header says it IS 1am at the moment!)
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Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 07:44:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 5/20/96

I need help identifying and finding a base for a small Singer.

I know it is not a Featherweight because the bed does not fold.  It is quite
light tho, maybe it is the wood base which makes the others heavier 

It's base is 12" long and 6 1/2" wide--I think it came in a wood base, have
seem some similar-- it has what looks like a brass foot. it has a slightly
fatter bobin than a featherwieght--the motor is in the back of the machine
and the light has a completly round holder, the metal cover over the thread
takeup is the fancy like the older featherweights  there are no numbers on
the thread tension and no stich length lever.

If anyone knows the number of this little gal and knows where I could get a
"case" for it so I can use it--as it sits the gears hit the table.

Thanks
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Date: Sat, 08 Jun 1996 12:54:36 -0400
Subject: Survey

Dear Friend,

     Next week I will be on a panel at the American Booksellers
Association convention in Chicago.  The topic is Bookselling in
the 21st century.  

     I want to base my comments on your opinions.  You can help
me answering this question and including any other advice
you think booksellers and publishers should know.
     
Why do you decide to buy a book?  Please rank from 1 (first) to 8 (last).

___ad in a magazine
___author
___graphic on the web
___recommendation by a friend
___review by a magazine
___seeing the book in person
___technique
___title
*  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *
*  *  *  *	Featured in Newsweek Magazine, June 10, page 86.
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Subject: New Old Treasure
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 15:30:09 -0400

Yesterday I wrote about a new find - an 1887 Singer, hand crank sm. 20

I was so excited at seeing such an old machine I just rushed home and 
asked FWFs if they had any information on it.  Well, I went back today 
to double check it out (and it was still there).  I gave the wrong 
seriel # in my excitement yesterday.   The nunmber is C7621803.    The 
machine does have bobbins.  They are about l l/8" long and fit into a 
bullet-type of holder.  Actually they look like a very small spool of 
Gutterman thread. There is a bobbin winder The  stitch plates (two) are 
nickle-plated and more rectangular than square.  One pulls out from the 
front and the other from the back.The red decoration is floral.
The bottom part of the bentwood case is old but in good condition.  The 
top needs some work and in one place the veneer is pulling apart, 
probably from moisture.  The big problem with the top is NO KEY.  On the 
right  side the top "hinges" into open brackets and on the left a key is 
required to lock the connection.  The clerk said she did not have a key 
but would ask the owner. 20
I plan on going back on Monday.   I feel that if this treasure is still 
there (I pushed it way back under the shelf) then I guess it's meant to 
be for me. 20
Would a Singer repair shop have a key or could I buy one through FWF???
All in all, I thing this is the most interesting machine I have ever 
seenThe ask is $85.00 and in one day they have come down to $75.00.  I 
hope nobody buys it!  I'm open to suggestions, answers and opinions.  
Lois 
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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 05:33:34 +1000 (EST)
Subject: Featherweights in Australia!


	Sue,

	Hello from Australia, where my patchwork friend and I have
	become Featherweight owners!

	I have a 222K model EK327443 A. and Cheryl has an EL681869 SI.

	How can we find out more about these models?

	Look forward to hearing from you.

	Sincerely,

	Becky P
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Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 15:45:41 -0400
Subject: Western Electric

Does anyone have a manual for an Art Deco-design 1930-ish Western Electric
machine with foot pedal?  Also interested in knowing anything about
it--company, parts (bobbins, etc.), compatible with any other machine?  I
called General Electric and got nowhere.  It's a gorgeous machine but needs
TLC.  S#A95594   Thank you!  --Mari
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Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 17:17:08 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: 10/31/51, Spartan, old SM needles

Hello, all...and welcome back, Sue --

My 221  AK609819 was born 10/31/51, Singer tells me.  They may not be 
giving us the *real* dates, but this seems consistent with the last two 
babies mentioned with that date.  We've named her "Samantha" (as 
in "Bewitched") ...wanted something sort of related to the Halloween date 
but decided "Spook" was a name we didn't want her to live up to.  :D

Anybody have any comments on a Spartan I might be able to pick up for $35 
or so?  The same guy has a 128 with no base or anything, just a naked 
machine, for the same price.  I didn't even check to see what kind of 
bobbin or anything it had, since it looked to me like the 128 wouldn't 
actually run without a case or cabinet to set it into.  I think I 
remember the Spartan had a base under it, and now I know from FWF that 
Spartans didn't have actual cases.  Any input is appreciated...the price 
doesn't seem all that outrageous to me.  

Still haven't found a "bargain" FW.  A friend's DH called over to her 
from the other side of the Goodwill store the other day, did she wanna 
come look at a little old sewing machine.  Sure enough, a Centennial FW, 
lots of accessories, nice case... $25.  Arrggghhhh.  Obviously my 
sporadic visits once a week or so haven't been enough...rats.  I'd found 
another one, an AG with *everything* except the oil can, $395 in an 
antique shop.  Wrestled with it (don't really *need* another pricey 
one!), went back 3 days later...she's gone.  To Colorado, they said.

I still have about 6 boxes of old SM needles, some of them curved ones.  
If anyone's interested, send a note.  I'm willing to trade.  Some of them 
are in old Singer boxes, smaller than matchboxes, and really cute.

Gordy is teaching a FW maintenance workshop at QuiltNebraska next month.  
I'm *so* excited that I got into it!  Let me know if there are any 
specific questions I should ask, while I've got him there in person.

Anybody have an e-mail address for A Stitch Back in Time?  The address I 
got from somewhere was incomplete.  Thanks!

Thanks also to Sue for keeping up such a great list, and to everyone who 
posts the wonderful info  (and stories!)  we anticipate each day.

Rita
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Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 20:27:50 -0400
Subject: you've got a keeper

Dear Joy  Read your post to FWF and I am happy to tell you that you have
joined a VERY small club - owners of the 99-31.  That's right 99-31.  This
*portable singer* (but she's a hernia-inducing-lady) was made in the early
50s.  It sits on two back hinges in its boxy tan base.  The boxy cover in
maroon and tan with saddle stitching attaches with two brass latches on each
end.  The gold decorations are very similar to the FW's. Mine also has a gold
and black Singer Medallion, under that an oval that says (99-  ) and on the
base the machine # AM053717.  Have you lifted the machine up yet?  That's
where the manual and attachments might be.  If not I will xerox my manual for
you.  This is a sweetheart of a machine, hums right along.  I am passionate
about her. This is the machine my Granny bought for me for 7th grade in 1955.
 Later DH traded it in but I finally found one again two months ago so I am a
happy lady.  Every time I see that cover I smile!  You can tell I'm excited
about your find, I think you will love her!  Henrietta 
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Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 22:28:09 -0400
Subject: Model 66 manual, etc.

Hi all - Today a nice antiques dealer gave me an original manual for a
Singer model #66.  In another antiques store I bought a  Singer buttonhole
attachment (1960) in a very funny oval pink plastic case (a flying saucer
lookalike).  Are these cases extremely common?  I have sewed  for 37 years,
am a flea market queen and have never seen one of these. My other Singer
buttonhole attachment came in a cardboard box.
Thanks to this list I found out the birthdate of my new FW - May 24, 1938.      
The marketing rep at  the Singer 800 number also told me that she had never
heard of a registry for FWs. 
I  have read posts that describe the condition of FWs on a scale of 1-10.
Could anyone give me any specifics of what constitutes a  5 and a 7 just as
examples?
This is a wonderful list and I have learned a tremendous amount in the short
time that I've been reading it.   

Nancy


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