Featherweight Fanatics Archives

June 1996

Sunday, June 23rd - Saturday, June 29th


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Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 04:43:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Another Singer

I had to tell you all about the latest member of my Singer family of sewing
machines - a model 206. It was made in Scotland probably in 1953 and has a
dial zigzag mechanism on the front - I imagine it was one of the earliest
zigzag machines made by Singer. It came in a lovely Queen Anne cabinet (why
were ALL of the old machines in cabinets??) with matching stool and included
a full set of attachments (including the binder and ruffler in a separate
paper bag (marked "Set of Parts-206K 43 Machine"), manual and a booklet I've
never seen. It's called "Singer Sewing Skills Reference Book", dated 1954,
and says the procedures covered "coincide with those taught in the Singer
Sewing Skills course, which is given without charge, to all new Singer
owners". Do you suppose they gave something similar to everyone that bought
a Singer and took the course? It seems like I would have come across one
before if that were the case (considering how many machines I now own!).
It's really interesting - covers sewing machine principles, stitching
methods and fashion details, sewing machine attachments, fashion stitches,
zipper closures, and hems and hem finishes. Quite thorough for a 52 page
booklet. Something else for all of you out there to be on the lookout for -
too bad Singer made so many neat products! Anyways, it looks like a neat
machine and of course I'm only too happy to add it to my ever growing
collection. Fortunately my daughter is moving to an apartment so I will have
a room to store my machines in soon! As if one room will be enough!! I saw a
lovely green Elna in a metal case at a yard sale today, but when I rushed
with it to ask the price, was told it was already sold - yard sales can be
SO frustrating!! Happy hunting to all of you. Sue M.



Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 09:24:05, -0500
Subject: Differences Between 301 and 301A

Hi All,
  I've only seen 2 301's and 3 301A's but it seems that some parts may not
be interchangable between 301's and 301A's. The arm shaft is a slightly
smaller diameter on the 301 so you cannot interchange the hand wheel,
washer, or nut.
                      Al in IL



Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 09:47:39 -0400
Subject: 99K

Fritz906
6-23-96
OK                  I finnally have something to TALK about, I went into my
favorite thrift shop  an wandered around for 30min, started to leave an low
an behold I stubbled upon a small Singer sitting in the floo,r was I ever
supprised my husband said "lets go " I grabbed the little thing up an
wouldn't let go, it had $29.00 on it I ran up to the sales lady an asked to
plug it in, sews great, said I'd take it , got to looking at it as I grew a
crowd,! it has a tiny 99K  on the front of it , I couldn't believe I had
found one. the # is EL597739
it's in a brown &tan case handle has a plastic insert with SINGER on it, has
a few feet &a tiny brush no manual .under side says SIMACO -33681   10> its
in great shape a 9 on Graham's chart. I held the little thing all the way
home everytime my husband looked at me I had this big grin on my face. Can
you imagine , I had all but given up on finding a 99. where can I get more
info on this lille darling? and a manual?
                       Estatic Sandy



Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 09:02:49 -0400
Subject: "White Attachment"

Hello to everybody!

Does anyone know what an attachment that I have does?  It apparently was sold
for a white brand machine...separetly from the regular attachment stuff.  It
came in it's own little box with a light orange label.  Label says it was
made expressly and only for the White.  It's called "White Arrasene
Attachment.  On the other side of the label it says:  The White Is King.
 Thought that was kinda funny.  How in the heck does this thing work??
 Anyone know?

Thanks    Terri Janson
Hey, it was down right chilly here last night in Michigan and we just got a
window A/C
go figure...



Subject: ID reference book
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 10:41:01 -0400

I was wondering if there is a reference book for identifying not only FWs
but other Singers.  If so, where can I purchase it?	
I am enjoying myself - bent on a mission to find the impossible a FW.  So
far I've only turned up Singers in cabinets but as far as I'm concerned
they are just as wonderful.  I have spotted a few toy machines.  Since I
don't know if the asking price is reasonable, I post to inquire.	
Many, many thanks to all of you  who have supplied me with information and
helful clues.  I now keep a screwdriver in my pocket and intend to buy a
small flashlight as some of these stores are dark.  I have put the word
out to sever people attending auctions that I am interested in all these
beauties.
Someday I hope to find a good treadle.  An antique dealer in another town
said he will be getting in a treadle with a box on top.  Is this a 
worthwhile addition to my collection (if the price is right and the
condition good).  Any suggestions for reading material??	
I will be happy to look for the toy machines for you collectors .  I'm not
going into the SM business just having fun.  Lois Whelan
(lojowhln@sover.net)



Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 10:42:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Notes and treadles


To Tracy:
  
I'm not sure of the US/Canadian exchange rate, but from what I've been
reading $500 US for a good working 222 is at the low end of the scale. 
Hints: make sure all the "mechanicals" are working, i.e., everything moves
smoothly when you turn the balance wheel.  Also, check to see if the
bobbin case holder is still there -- these are expensive to replace.  Try
to plug it in and make sure the motor works without blowing a fuse or
generating smoke.  General dirt and grime are not a problem, these can be
removed with WD-40 or a number of other easily available cleaning agents. 
Make sure the removable bed seats firmly when you have it in place -- you
don't want the machine turning into a freearm at its own whim.  As far as
the cosmetic appearance goes, that's up to you.  Thus endeth the lecture
of the day.

To Becky:  I don't understand the reference to "three legs" for the Model
66.  As far as attachments go, I believe that MOST of the general purpose
attachments are interchangeable between MOST singer machines.  The only
problem you might have is if this machine is a Model 66-1.  On this
machine, the attachments screw in from the rear of the presser foot bar
rather than from the side.  I think this was the only Singer machine that
ever did that, so rear-clamping attachments are harder to find.  If the
machine works well, I thing $35.00 is a very good price.

To BBuchan7125: Page down to the end of this Digest and you will find the
Singer phone number!

To Betty: One can theoretically open a Bentwood case with the blade of a
small screwdriver.  IF you can get the lock to disengage, you need to pull
the top up and toward you slightly to get the hooking mechanism on the
other end of the case to release.  On the other hand, if the entire case
is "mushed" out of shape (don't you just love technical terms...) and
parts of the machine are indeed sticking out, you may have no choice but
to start disassembling wooden parts.  If you absolutely have to do this,
see if you can get one of the end pieces off in one piece.  Then you can see
into the interior and try to figure out what's stuck where.  Failing all
that, I recall that someone else on this list needs/needed a new lock for
her case, and you have my sympathies...

To Graham:  Is there a US contact for ISMACS?  I may have a local dealer
who is a potential member for you.

To Judy: The "K" on your 201K stands for the Kilbowie Factory near
Clydebank, Scotland, which is where your machine was made.  If you had a
201J, that would indicate manufacture in St. Johns, Quebec.  The 201 is a
very good machine, gear driven instead of belt driven.  $35.00 is a good
price for this machine in my book, assuming everything's working OK (see
To Tracy, above).

Stuff: I went cruising in a series of shops I hadn't been to for a while,
and was amazed to run across no fewer than FIVE treadles.  Here are
descriptions and prices, for references purposes:

Wheeler and Wilson No. 8: $335.00 - working ok, no books or attachments,
cabinet in fair condition.

Princess: $120.00 - vibrating shuttle in 4-drawer refinised cabinet, original
book and attachments.  I think the head on this one could use a little more
cleaning.

Standard: $155.00 - rotary machine in 4-drawer refinished cabinet, no book
or attachments.  I also think the head on this one could use a little more
de-gunking.

Queen: $85.00 - don't remember sitch mechanism type (sorry!) in 4-drawer
refinished cabinet.  No book or attachments.  This head had a lot of wear
on the goldwork.  Has the box on top that covers up the machine head (NO
fold-down machanism).

White: $225.00 - rotary machine in refinished 6-drawer cabinet.  She has
the attachment set but is keeping it separate from the machine.

Empty refinished treadle cabinet: $95.00 (nice job on the wood).

I had a nice conversation with the owner of the shop which had the last
four treadles plus the cabinet.  She's the ONLY shop owner I've talked
with so far that said "Oh we LIKE treadles!" rather than the "turn them
down all the time....no market" speech I usually get.  She does not,
however, handle portables.  Except that I promised to get her some book
titles for references, and I think I better clue her in on FWs in case
someone ever offers her one.  In one other shop I found one stray treadle
drawer.  After I (literally) growled at the owner, he hastened to explain
that he NEVER takes tables apart, and that he had found just the one
drawer -- really.  Unfortunately, it did not occur to me to get the
dimensions of the drawer.  If any of you are still looking for stray
drawers, e-mail me the dimensions privately and I'll go back and look at
this one (doesn't take much these days to get me out hunting on Saturday
mornings...) and post the dimensions to the Digest.

And if any of you are interested in any of the treadles above, let me know
and I'll get you the name and phone number of the shop.  No financial
interest here.

Lydia in central Ohio, who intends to spend this hot sunny day "playing in
the dirt", i.e. doing yard work. 


                                  _   _
Lydia Pratt                      |_|X|_|
Columbus, Ohio                   |X|*|X|
lspratt@freenet.columbus.oh.us   |_|X|_|



Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 10:40:08 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 6/14/96

Hi all.. I'm still looking for info on the following, can anyone help??
 It is a Wheeler &Wilson MFG  model D-9, no. 2706991 Bridgeport Conn. 
>and I have a new one to research.
My sister called with the news her DH just came home with a little lost
treadle and asked if he could keep it??
 NO not realy. What happened is there was an estate sale two doors down and
Tom (the DH) told Katherine (the sister) there was a singer treadle for sale
for $150. and did she want it???YES! So he went back and brought it home
for$75...
 It has lost of red, green and gold on it and looks like it was used alot.
Maybe a 6/7 there are two numbers on it.  G5707444 where you can see it and
underneath 15232.  It's in a full cabnet and has lots of feet. no book. I'm
going to call Singer Mon. and see what they can tell me..

Now, anyone have any ideas on these two machines?  I'm looking for needles,
books, anything on both.  On wed. I'm going to a Bonsai convention in D.C.
and will see her then, so any help would be very thankful..

Graham, what do you think..

Sue, thanks for letting me run on, and for doing such a great job...


Mary-Ruth L. Flores aagarita@txdirect.net
Quilting forever, housework whenever



Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1996 12:57:54 -0700
Subject: Re: Free Mast Cat

To: Bobbie Kopf

I've lost your email address! But want you to know Mom said YES about the
copying. Please email me for details.

To: All

I've been enjoying reading Mom's past issues of ISMACS News. They are full
of Graham's writings and pictures of machines to make you drool! There are
also lots of antique adverts that are so neat to read. I've even caught a
glimpse of Maggie (pretty!) Snell and Graham (longhair) Forsdyke at ISMACS
conventions, which look and sound like a huge amount of fun. Haven't caught
sight of Dizzy Dog yet. Those of you who are getting seriously into
collecting these wonderful old sewing machines would be doing yourself a
real favor to join ISMACS. Gotta get back to my reading. Mom wants these
back soon!

Gretchen in windy, warm Benicia, CA



"Life is a search for the peace you felt in your Mother's womb."
Lwoxanna Troy - DS9



Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 15:43:23 -0700
Subject: Featherweight

I am writing this for my sister in law.  She owns a featherweight that 
was purchased new by her mother in either 50 or 51.  The machine is in 
excellent condition and has less than 50 hours of sewing on it.  She may 
be interested in selling it depending on the value. The serial # is 
AJ783479...And the inscription on the bottom reads Simanco USA 45713.

Any information on the approximate value would be appreciated

Thank you, 
Donna Long

PS. The case is not in as good of shape as the machine, but is in tact 
and useable.



Date: 23 Jun 96 19:13:22 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To all 
Nothing confirmed yet but there's the chance of a meeting of sewing machine
collectors at an ISMACS member's house in Baltimore MD.
Date is Sunday Aug 25. 
Maggie and I are going to try to make it over and give a slide show of some of
the more exotic machines in her collection.
If you live in the area and could be interested please e-mail me .
No need to be an ISMACS member to attend -- just to have an interest in old
machines.

Graham Forsdyke 



Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:28:03 -0400
Subject: FW Motors

FWFanatics. - Help!
I'm looking for your tired, worn out, broken, dead FW motors &even the
armatures of these motors. I need a few internal parts of motors in order to
get some other motors performing again. I'l pay a reasonable price depending
what is wrong with the bad motor. If you have had to replace a motor, did you
keep it or throw it away? If it is of no value to you, then maybe you can
sell it for a price which may offset your loss. Please E-mail me with what
type, Great Britain 240 volts, Great Britain white (Mint green) 221K,
American or Canadian motors. Some are similiar &some are not. Let me know.
Thanks!  Glenn Williams gwillie37@aol.com



Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:39:40, -0500
Subject: Singer treadle

My Dh and I went to a new antique mall today.  We found a Singer treadle
with a rather ornate cabinet.  It has the books that say it is a 66 and the
bill of sale for $3 on Aug. 1, 1900.  The cabinet is in very good condition
and the machine is about a 6 or 7 on Graham's scale.  The asking price is
$210.  Is this a good price.  I offered $150 and the guy is to call me back
tomorrow when he comes in.  Any immediate help would be appreciated.  Also
my DH came back from a yard sale with a Beautyfold sewing table fo $5.
Does anyone know anything about that?  It is rectangular in shape with a
cutout similar the the FW table but the cutout is larger than any of my
collection of portables.  In the cutout fits another rectagular that folds
out to be a chair(no back) to sit on.  Kind of neat looking.
Thanks to Sue for all your work and I really enjoy all the input.  I
download twice a week and just read and read and read. Sandie in middle PA
where it is sunny and humid and I can't complain because I swore I wouldn't
in the middle of last winter!



Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 22:45:13 -0400
Subject: Treadle For Sale/My Good Luck

This is my first time to write to you all, so I must tell you how much I
enjoy the list, and how much I have learned from everyone.  A special thank
you to Sue for all her effort.
  
I subscibed to the list because I had decided there had to be a Featherweight
out there for me--and the time had come to get serious about finding it.
 Lady Luck smiled on me yesterday morning, as was going over the ads for
Saturday.  There it was--Feather Wait for sale--I didn't let the spelling
bother me.  I quickly got the particulars over the phone, but couldn't see it
until the owner got off work at noon--And I had to take daughter #3 to the
airport for a 1:50 flight.  I enlisted daughter #1 as back up, in case I
couldn't get to the airport and anxiously waited until I could go see what I
was sure was my Featherweight.  It must have been meant for me, as I now have
what I think is a Centennial model.  The logo on the machine is like the
usual Singer logo,  except it is gold with blue, and across the top it says
 and across the bottom <1858-1951>.  I haven't
been able to call for a birthday yet, but it is an AK.   

Now, the person selling MY Featherweight also has a Singer Treadle for sale
$75.  It is a Model 66 I think, and has not one but 2 manuals, is in a
structurally sound cabinet (3 drawers on each side-quite plain) and has a
serial # AA743575.  If anyone is interested, E-mail me, and I will help you
get in touch with the owner.

I am very interested in anything anyone can tell me about the Featherweight I
bought--I would love to hear from you.

Ellen in Omaha, where the thunder and lightening have been fierce!
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 20:30:12 -0500
Subject: FW Fanatics 6/24/96
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Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 07:10:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Another fw

I went to a wonderful antique show yesterday and saw lots of great sewing
machines - and am proud to report I didn't buy a thing (probably has
something to do with the two machines I'd already bought this weekend!!) but
I did want to let you all know about something I saw.  The fws were
interesting. One was in pretty good shape, but priced at $475. Another was
in the worst shape I'd ever seen - hardly any gold left on it - and he was
asking $350 for it. But then I saw one in pristine condition - a newer model
like the last one I bought from 1955 - and it came with its table, in
equally good condition. He was only asking $345 for them, but now that I own
8 fws, and two tables, I just couldn't buy another. I did get his name so if
anyone's interested they could get in touch with him, but I don't know if
he'll still have it by then - thought it might be worth a try if you're
interested. The info is: Michael A. O'Connor, Rd 3, Scott Rd., Homer, NY
13077, phone 607-749-4666. I didn't check with him about posting the info
here, but hope he wouldn't mind if he wants to sell it. Hope this helps
someone - I feel like I should be in the business of locating fws for people
- I come across so many and it's so hard for me to resist when they're
priced so low. Sue M.



Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:38:12 -0800
Subject: New Williard

I have one of these also.  Mine is missing one of the throat plates and 
DH hasn't had time to service it, I'm too lazy! VBG, but he did clean up 
the outside and it is on display in our quilt shop.  We get alot of 
compliments and is it for sale?  I have shelves that I am displaying my 
collection (I have two so far!!) of old machines on and if I could ever 
get out of the shop to go looking, I would have more!!

We got an FW in last week, and sold it a few days later, that the switch 
for the machine didnt work.  The lady who bought it didn't want to wait 
for it to be fixed, said she would just unplug it from the wall each 
time.  This lady had FW fever bad . . . . .

Anyone who comes across old Elnas, keep me in mind?  I am trying to find 
old ones for my display area.

Debbie at QPs in NJ



Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 09:44:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FW is ill

Hi everyone.  I haven't posted lately due to only being able to send 
messages from work.  Some of you may remember that I posted a couple of 
months  ago about finding two FW's - an AD and an AK.  (I have since found 
and bought about four more machines in cabinets and one more portable in 
Bentwood case!!)  Well to try to make this brief - while planning for a ten 
day camping trip which will start this Thursday of course the first thing to 
do was to get my quilting projects lined up and I wanted to take my AK with 
me instead of the AD.  The AD works fine but is in pretty rough shape and I 
have been anxious to use the AK which is in great shape (cosmetically at 
least!).  The AK did not come with a motor and not wanting to attach the 
universal motor they gave me with it which doesn't fit (and would need 
special brackets mounted to it), my SO other switched the motor from the AD 
to the AK.  Well the AK might look great but it doesn't work great!  It will 
pick up the bobbin thread when turning the wheel but will not sew a stitch. 
 I know that this isn't a very technical description but has anyone else had 
this problem before?  If so any hints for novices trying to fix it?  I might 
have to take it to the repair shop if we can't figure it out but of course 
that will mean that I won't have either of my FW to take camping with me! 
 All because I wanted to use the "prettier one"!!  I guess this should teach 
me to appreciate the AD because its not always looks that count!!  I suppose 
we could always switch the motor back but I don't want to give up on getting 
the AK to work.  I really enjoy reading everyone's messages and hopefully 
will find some time soon to tell you about all the other machines I have 
found!  I have to quit buying machines in cabinets!! Luckily I have a big 
house!  But one of my sons keeps saying everytime I buy a new (old) machine 
 - "but mom you already have four machines why do you need another one?"  For 
some reason the number "four" never changes in his question - if he only 
realized we are probably up to about "fourteen" now!!  Thanks in advance for 
any hints anyone can give me.

To Chris at Stepping Stone quilts - I would like a copy of your newsletter - 
thanks!  Also in case you are wondering we are using the service manual you 
sent me for the FW to try to fix our problem but still haven't figured it 
out and due to lack of time was hoping that maybe someone would have 
experienced this problem and have some hints as to what might cause it which 
would speed up the process for us - since we are very new to sewing machine 
repair!

Melodie



Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 08:56:22 -0600
Subject:  to Ecstatic Sandy

Congrats on your 99K!!  I've had mine for a little over
20 years and absolutely love it!!  Mine was born in
1955.  Although I now have 5 sewing machines (all
newer than the 99K), my little 99K baby is by far my
favorite.  I don't know much about them, but I will tell
you it sews great and you will love it!!

Darlene in Iowa



Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 10:11:08 EDT
Subject: Threading New England type SM

Graham : Threading New England type SM

Thanks for your help, but now I'm REALLY confused.  You refer to the bobbin
in your message.  My machine does a chain stitch.  It has no bobbin, only
a top thread.  Are you talking about a machine of the sort pictured at the
bottom of page 132 of Carter Bays' book?

Betsy Szymanski
ems@fame.com



Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 00:23:41 +1000 (EST)
Subject: USA trip

Well I am finally back from USA having had the most incredible time , we
went to the American History Smithsonian in Washington only saw two machine
one Issac Howe and one Singer but worth the trip.I really didn't see that
many machines whilst in the states however did find an absolutley
magnificent Issac Howe in an antique shop in Denver Col if I could have just
worked out how to get it back to Australia I would have bought it however
talked my sisters DH into buying it for her for Mothers Day  it was an
absolute bargain at $188  it had a two draw treadle cabinet with a spring
loaded side table in perfect working condition  on Grahams scale at least a
81/2-9 . I looked everywhere for books on machines even the Tattered Cover
in Denver which has to be the  best book shop I have ever been in  four
floors and really terrific couldn't help me however at an antique show  was
really luck to buy Otto Landgraf Oldtimer Sewing Machine which by the way
Grahame Fosdyke translated. It is very good  with great illustrations on
needles, how stitches where made   and short bios on several of the
inventors with some fabulous photos. It certainly wasn't cheap  at $50 but I
am VERY happy with it . I was lucky to pick up a Greist Buttonholer complete
with all dyes and manual for $4 at a quilt show. Ann-Maree in cold cold
Canberra Aust



Date: 24 Jun 96 11:35:53 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To Lydia

The International Sewing Machine Collectors' Society's American representative
is Sharon Tedrow, POB 336 Orcas Washington 98280 Tel/fax (360) 376 2829

To Mary Ruth re Wheeler and Wilson 9

This model was introduced in the late 1980s and won the only "Grand Prize" at
the 1889 Paris Exposition.
Company was bought out by Singer in 1905 but W&W machines continued to be
produced.
Part of the factory building is still standing in Bridgeport Conn and, last 
time
I was there, was being used by a Juke-box salesman
The Singer dates 1885 from the SN (always ignore the lower of the two numbers
found on these machines).
Probably can provide a copy manual for the W&W and the Singer .

To Gretchen
Glad you are enjoying the ISMACS News back issues. Sadly the long hair is gone.
I finally agreed to have it trimmed from longer-than-shoulder to collar-length
in honour of the ISMACS Convention. Maggie didn't like the job and took me 
along
to her "stylist" who practically shaved my head. I'm a hippy at heart and now I
feel naked.

Graham Forsdyke ISMACS London



Date:     Mon, 24 Jun 96 11:41:38 EDT
Subject:  repro-FW table? &Threads

Hi all:  I haven't written to this list in months and am not sure the address 
is correct, but here goes....

Chris:  What was the price of the repro table for the FW?  The features
sound great.  

Charlene:  Contact your local library for their back issues of Threads.  I 
don't
know how long they keep them on the shelves, but they have to do something with 
them after the normal stack time.  Our library system here is very big, with
lots of branches.  I will check here if you are still interested.  Just email
me directly.

I got my second FW!!!!  My step mother in law was on the look out for me.  The 
price was $210.00.  I haven't seen the machine.  The find was at a yard sale.
The seller said the machine belonged to her mother (who just passed).  I didn't
negotiate on the price.  The machine sounds old by description.  It has the
older style case and button holer.  The only questionable thing was the 
manual.  The seller said the pages were sticking.  It has the oil can and 
bobbin case.  If it is a 9+, I'll post again.  

				gyleen
				fitz-pryde@earthlink.net



Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 12:22:59 -0700
Subject:

WANTED:  FEATHERWEIGHT MACHINES, SEND RESPONSES TO lafre@nauticom.net OR 
INFORMATION 
ABOUT THE MACHINE YOU ARE SELLING TO C.S.S., RD 1, BOX 99A, HOPWOOD, PA 15445



Date: Mon, 24 Jun 96 14:48 EDT
Subject: hand crank machine

Hi -
     I am primarily a quilter who owns a FW and wanted to learn more about
it, which is why I joined this group.  I have learned alot, especially that
old SMs are of value, other than a FW of course.  
     This morning I went to The Perkiomen Sale, a local flea market that I
only get to about once a year because it is early Monday morning, and saw my
first hand crank machine.  It was either a Reliant or Reliance - my
knowledge of SM makers is very small.  I was impressed with what I saw -
beautiful curved case, pretty head.  The dealer pointed out that it had a
bobbin case - worth $40 or $50 by itself - and a bobbin.  It seemed in good
appearance, and the wheel turned.  Couldn't look much for rust because of
sun glare and his pushiness.  Is there a basic price range for hand crank
machines?  I realize condition, attachments, whether it works, etc., all
affect the price, but a range would be helpful to novices like me.
     Well, the machine cost $150, and I didn't buy it due to lack of
knowledge about such a large outlay of cash and a daughter who graduated
from high school on last Friday night and for whom the college bills are
just beginning!  But, I would like to know from a collection standpoint,
should I have gotten it?  Are you saying, boy I wish I had seen that
machine?  Since I am a quilter I already have one costly addiction, so must
move slowly into another one, but would like to learn about machines and
their values, so I will know whether I should have bought that machine.
     Thanks for your help and willingness to share your knowledge.   Barb 


Bill Garrett                 Barb Garrett
RV-6A airplane builder       Quilter and Quilt Historian
bgarrett@fast.net            Pottstown, PA



Subject: RE: FW FAnatics 6/23/96
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 13:49:43 -0500

Hi all:=20

This is my first post to the list, and what has happened to me Friday =
night has prompted me to join this list.  I've only received one so far =
but I know I'll enjoy being part of the group.

Just bought an old sewing machine at an auction last night.  It is a
Singer in a brown wooden carrying case.  It is portable, yet electric
with a medallion on it which says "1851-1951 Century of Sewing
Service".  It has model no. JC354014.  The left side plate where the
thread thingy that goes up and down is, is very ornate, silvery
grapevine pattern all over it. I believe this is called the 'face
plate').  It is very pretty.    There is a riveted plate at the back of =
the machine which is also same grapevine pattern, which is shaped liked =
an upside down pear.=20
(The bobbins are very small, long spindle
types.  There are a couple of wheels (like a clock mechanicsm) which
moves the thread from left to right when filling your bobbins.  Inside
the wood case there's a little slot that holds a little cardboard box
full of attachments, ie. ruffler, zipper foot, rolled hemmer, piping
foot, bias tape foot, and one foot I have no idea what it is for!!!
There are two throat plates, that open one toward front and the other
towards the back.  The bobbin oscilattes in there in a half circle
motion.  There is no stitch length guage, but there is a knob which
turns just above the medialion at about '2 o'clock'.  There is also a
riveted plate just to the right and above the tension dials which
houses a very large screw.  On the right hand side of the machine base
is a little black plate (like a lid) which is screwed down and there
is a hole drilled just in the front of the base at this point where I
can stick my finger in!  Don't know what that section is for.  It has
a good deal of scrolling pattern all around the base of it in gold,
and also a bit at the top near the wheel.  The initials "M.R." are
also written just below the medallion and under the word "Singer" at
the front centre.  The machine is made in Canada.

Now for my question.  Is this a featherweight!!!!??? Any information
you might give me regarding this machine, would be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks so much!

Denise



Date: 24 Jun 1996 21:12:20 +0000
Subject: Stuf


General:

I called about a tan/white (canadian) FW...they said it was born 
between....1961 to 1966?  It is definitely light tan, SN#JE161374, made in 
St. Johns, they said....would this be correct?  Another SN#AM399681, they 
gave a spread of 2/27/56 TO...61?  Then I got 2/27/56 for another 
AM407667...I'm confused.  Is this correct or would it be what is expected, a 
flucuation of dates?  It's seems a bit erratic to me.

Graham:  I'm interested in the August 25 ISMAC meeting in Maryand...could 
you please send details?

Have you ever seen a 500 series SM with a free arm - Singer, made in 
Germany?  I saw one and it looks like my Rocketeer, 500A that I got for 
$20...so I'm wondering what I might have to pay for this one...the dealer 
said $150...I feel I'm getting in over my head...I'm not clear if this would 
be a reasonable figure for it?

Also, he has a Singer 24 Chain Stitch, which looks like it hasn't seen the 
light of day for many and many a year...but looks reasonable under all the 
dirt...are these rare?  Would it be difficult to get working? Could you 
suggest a ballpark figure?  If it's that there is no real line for this 
model, then  I could just make an offer--?  I hope I'm not asking for too 
much...the value thing doesn't bother me so much as paying too much 
does.....

To Bobbie:

I personally think you are a rare and unique person, to be able to so 
eloquently express yourself the way you did in your 6/18 post...I think you 
are an absolutely terrrrrriffffic person to extend yourself so much for 
"strangers."  We are a group of people with common interests who have moved 
beyond the Stranger Borders and have had the smarts, luck, good taste, ? to 
become friends....it IS unique and wonderful, but that's what makes it so 
special...to be able to recognize good and not be afraid of it...in today's 
world, so many of us have been alienated by negative experiences and not 
able to be open to the Real Thing when it appears....not in FWF, it seems, 
thank god.

Bye the way, without meaning to, I refer to the FWFs frequently as the 
"FeatherNet" which just popped out of my lips when speaking to DH or Mom re: 
digest...they think it's cute...so do I...so.......Happy FeatherNetting!

So, now I'm hot for the following:  a AM FW, a 500 ish freearm, a 24, and 
the Elna Lotus, unless someone else gets it first...it's so cute, they're 
all cute, and I'm crazy...it's like Booze &Drugs...who'd ever think to get 
hooked Big Time on Old SMs....oh-h-h-h--h-h....I guess it's part of the road 
to Twilight Acres....but it IS fun!  All I neednow is money....I'm going to 
have to sell my OTHER stuff to support this "Habit."

Toodles and....happy FeatherNetting....Mary in Beautiful New Jersey...



Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 17:01:49 -0700
Subject: New Reader, New Featherweight

Greetings!
I've been reading along about everyones finds and bargains (and not so 
bargains).This is probably the most fun list I've read, and thanks to all 
who so generously share all their knowledge, and to Sue for keeping it 
all together. 
I found my first Featherweight last year in Florida at the deliciously 
low price of $50. Of course, having no wisdom whatsoever, I neglected to 
look for the bobbin case so added $65. to my cost. The machine is an AG 
serial number which Singer says was made in 1946. The condition was fair, 
but it sews well and I was happy......well, almost happy.
What I really wanted was a AH made in 1948 which is also my birth year. 
I've been browsing some of the local Flea Markets and Antique Malls with 
absolutely no luck, not even a sighting of a Featherweight. Last Saturday 
I made one last stop at a Flea Market in Fort Worth, and found my AH in 
great condition, with a case with working latches, ALL accessories, lots 
of bobbins, a manual. Only thing missing was the oil can. I paid $250. 
which was more than I wanted, but this one was darn near perfect. 
Glad to be a part of the Featherweight Fanatics, 
Carol Sanders



Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:39:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Treadle $$$

To Sandra:

My immediate reaction to the Singer 66 is that your offer of $150.00
sounds about the top of what you should pay for a treadle.  $210 strikes
me as a bit much -- there's one here in Columbus that I passed up priced
at $129.00 (although after we had chatted the owner told me if I was
really interested she thought she could "do better").  Your problem may be
that the cabinet is in "good condition" because it has been refinished by
the dealer.  If that is the case, s/he may not be inclined to come down
much because of the personal time and effort that has been invested.  Once
I really started looking I came across numerous treadles (see yesterday's
Digest), so if you don't get this one it isn't the end of the world.  On
the other hand, if you REALLY REALLY want one and can come to an agreement
on price with the dealer, there's no reason not to.

A Request: can someone tell me exactly what attachments came as Attachment
Set 160481 in the green &red cardboard box??

Lydia in central Ohio, where we've had alternating sunshine and brief but
heavy downpours all day.


                                  _   _
Lydia Pratt                      |_|X|_|
Columbus, Ohio                   |X|*|X|
lspratt@freenet.columbus.oh.us   |_|X|_|



Date: 24 Jun 96 19:55:35 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To all.

Just found the following in my returned mail box. Aplogies for lateness.If
anyone e-mail;s me I reckon to get a reply out in 48 hours max. If you don't 
get
a reply in that toime please try again. I'm sure the 'puter eats mail
occassionally.
//////
To Shirley re BSM machines and keys
Thanks for asking, the 'puter is back in business. Seems the motherboard was
sending spikes into the hard disc and eating it but who knows. No-one actually
repairs 'puters any more than they do electronic sewing machines. Answer to
every problem is "change the circuit board".
Back to business. I'm interested in why you say the BSM machine is British,
please reveal.
I know of no reproductions of old machines except for the FW and a Muller
children's toy so I guess it's original.
My guess is that, whatever it says, it isn't British at all but German. From
1880 to 1914 scores of German manufacturers flooded the European, British and
American markets with Singer clone machines and tried everything, including
lies, to convince the public that they were not of German manufacturer ( 
Germany
at this time was not highly regarded as a manufacturing country).
In London there was an "American Sewing Machine Company" that sold German
machines with names like Lincoln, Victoria, Washington etc.
If you want to send me a pic I'll identify it. Will end my snail address by
direct e-mail.
As to the resason machine boxes had keys. Purely a sales ploy. Something as
valuable and desirable as the XXXX sewing machine would be kept in a LOCKED 
box.
Salesmen would make a great show of unlocking the box to reveal the treasure
beneath the lid.

To Sarah re Jones CS

Can't date this from the Sn. When Brother took over the British company in 
1968,
they trashed all the historical records.
However I can tell you that the CS was introduced in 1894 .
Jones was one of the earliest British companies being formed in 1859.
As far as your problem goes, it's very unusual for a shuttle to be "damaged".
Are you sure your guy is threading it properly snd taking the thread through 
the
tension system. Later CS machines had a screw on the shuttle for adjusting
tension.
Sounds like the electric motor is an after market add on.

To Rosemary re mystery machine.
Jim's got this one wrong. Willcox and Gibbs never made a domestic lock stitch
machine. Whilst your description is well detailed  I can't pin it down. However
the lack of any SN or brand name would make me suspect that  it's German (see
above). If you want to mail me a pic, I'll identify.
It does not have to take a round-shank needle. One with a flat will fit just as
well -- and might locate properly.

To Jim re Peacock

Faudels was a large-scale importer of Singer clones made in Germany during the
1890s to 1910 period. No spares available but some parts from a Singer New
Family (No2 in the USA) might fit. Not common but not collected.

Graham Forsdyke  Lopndon  



Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 21:41:41 -0400
Subject: Featherweight Attachments

Hi fanatics.  I called (for the first time) a Singer dealer in another small
town nearby looking for some attachments for my FW.  I wasn't really looking
for them to use on my FW, but thought having some of the orginal attachments
would be interesting.  Anyway, the man at the store said that I shouldn't use
any zigzag type attachments on my FW since they could do damage to the hook
mechanism and cause real damage to a great little machine (his words ).
 Does anyone else have any knowledge of attachments doing damage to our
machines?  He basically said that zigzag attachments should not be used on
any straight stitch machines.  He alarmed me a little since I was getting
ready to try out some attachments that I have accumulated on my FW.  I talked
to him for a few minutes and he seemed very knowledgeable.  He actually
sounded like Graham's little, old Singer repairman who brings treasures out
of his workroom.  His shop has been in business since the l940's.  Yes, I do
plan on driving out there this week!  Has anyone really used these
attachments and have you had any problems with your machines?  Thanks in
advance.  Claire Fukuda (soko1@valleynet.com)
____________________________________
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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 08:28:02 -0500
Subject: FW Fanatics 6/25/96
To: Sue@quilt.com
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Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:18:32 GMT
Subject: Re: "QB" Featherweight info needed

Folks, do you think we can help this person out??


>To: bern vugrin 
>Subject: Re: "QB" Featherweight info needed
>
>At 01:18 AM 6/25/96 +0000, bern vugrin wrote:
>>Hi QBer's,
>>I'm hoping someone can give me some general information about Featherweights.
>>I'm a dental hygienist and last week one of my patients told me she worked
>>in a local church "opportunity shop". She was the manager at age 85!! I
>>asked if old sewing machines came thru the doors and did anyone who worked
>>there know a good machine when they saw one?I was particularly looking for a
>>Featherweight. She said sometimes she sees them and she would keep an eye
>>out for me.  
>>Well she called today. One came to the shop on Saturday and she and one of
>>the other works looked it over and thought it was in real good shape. They
>>are asking $100 for it.I'm going to look(buy?) tomorrow at 2PM and thought
>>that any info would help. 
>>Are someFW's better than others in their value, how they work? What should
>>be included in the price. I know to get a pedal as I remember someone else
>>in QB asking for a source of one. What else should I look for? are parts
>>hard to find?
>>Any info you have that might be helpful I'd appreciate, just send it
before 2PM
>>Eastern Standard time. Thanks for your help
>>Janet in a very,very very wet and wind blown Md, where trees and power lines
>>are down everywhere!!!.  
>>
>>
Rayna

Rayna Gillman
RG2@worldnet.att.net
in Livingston, NJ



Date: 25 Jun 1996 12:07:52 +0000
Subject: Elna Lotus

To Anyone Who Might Have Inquired About the Elna Lotus I posted about:

I goofed:

 I should not have jumped in with the Lotus information  until I checked it 
out more thoroughly first............And, there are 2 very valid reasons: 
 First, the dealer isn't even sure it's available, and he has to check with 
the owner (he did tell me this when I inquired, but I conveniently forgot!) 
and Secondly and Even MoreSo is that my Mom wants it!  (We have another 
Elna, and a fondness for them).  So I must regretfully withdraw the offer 
and apologize for getting anyone's hope up......I got a bunch of messages at 
home on my AOL but before I could answer them they were stupidly deleted and 
gone before I could do anything about recalling them...so anyone who posted 
to me, I apologize for not answering you individually.  Especially the 
Person who was the one who first mentioned it on FWFs.  Please send me 
another note and I promise to watch for you in the future.  But this is the 
only Lotus I have seen except one owned by a quilter at a  quilt show and 
hers was borrowed.....

If the person who said they are an Elna dealer and sent me a note will get 
in touch me, I know the dealer does have an old green Elna with the knee bar 
you might be interested in, and possibly others....he has a LOT of machines 
and I didn't look at everything, even tho' I wanted to...maybe when I go 
back on Friday as I AM interested in purchasing from him, eg, a Singer 24, a 
FW, the Lotus, and a weird one called a 431G..with a free arm....so I will 
be totally tapped out unless I can sell some of my stash to make 
room......and raise some $$$.



Subject: 401 manual

For Phyllis in Texas who needs a manual for a 401

My daughter is coming from SC in three weeks for family reunion.  She =
has my 401 (she thinks it is HERS -- ha! am trying to think how to =
tactfully get it back) and could bring the manual for copying; if you =
don't get one somewhere before July 12 or so, let me know.  In fact, =
maybe I'll have her bring it anyway and then I'll have a =
copy..............



Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 08:07:45 PST

     I am new to your group, and I just wanted to say that you are all a 
     plethora of information!
     
     Let me tell you about how I came to "inherit" my Featherweight.  My 
     mother used to own a small neighborhood grocery store, and one day a 
     woman came in who wanted to buy a couple of six packs and some 
     cigarettes.  She had no money to pay for these items, but offered to 
     give my mother her sewing machine instead.  My mother accepted.  At 
     the time, my mother also was a seamstress and thus had an industrial 
     machine.  When we were children, she let both my sister and I "sew" 
     using the featherweight (without the machine being threaded).  One 
     day, while "sewing" on the machine, I suddenly got up while somehow 
     getting caught in the powercord.  Needless to say, when I took a 
     couple of steps the machine came crashing down onto the linoleum 
     floor.  When the machine fell to the floor, the bobbin winder piece 
     broke off and I guess some of the innards of the machine got jammed, 
     because it never worked right after that.  So, my mother left it in 
     her basement, untouched.  That happened about 22 years ago. 
     
     I got interested in the machine after I had purchased a 201 with table 
     at a garage sale for $40 and had no clue about a machine that old.  
     So, off to the Net I went, where I stumbled upon the Featherweight 
     home pages. My interest was piqued, and it was then the I asked my 
     mother for the machine.  She had no use for it, and thus had no 
     problem at all giving it to me.  Of course, it was still 
     malfunctioning, and I just recently brought it into a local repair 
     shop here in the city.  That was about a month ago.  The man who fixed 
     my machine had a bit of a problem finding a new bobbin winder piece, 
     but was eventually able to do so.  Anyway, I just picked up the 
     machine and it seems to be working fine, with the exception of the 
     bobbin winder.  And it could be user error, because I am by no stretch 
     of the imagination an expert with these machines.  Anyway, when I wind 
     the bobbins, they just don't seem to wind evenly.  Does anyone have 
     any suggestions as to how this problem can be fixed?  



Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 11:53:26 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: Singer Oil Can

I finally found a Singer oil can!  It's rusty--and slightly dented--but 
it's mine, all mine!  It still has the original orange top.  DH thinks he 
can clean it up a tad.  Yes, I'm very happy with my $3.00 purchase!

Mary Jane in Abilene



Date: Tue, 25 Jun 96 14:02:18 +0100
Subject: Re: FW FAnatics 6/23/96

OK, I give up.  I've been reading this newsgroup for about 2-3 months and
can't figure out what 'ISMACS' means.


Insatiable Sages and Machine Activists and Crazy Salvagers?? 

International Society for Machines Abandoned for Condition and Safety??

Impulsive Sacrifice for Machines And Compulsive Sewers??

I Sacrifice for Machines And Covet Singers??


What is the truth about this organization and why are some of you members,
is there a magazine, and what are the fees and method of joining?

Jan  Drechsler  (not Bob)

 



Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 21:09:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: felt pad

    I am learning so much from this list, but there are lots of things you
all seem to know and I am in the dark.  So I'll go ahead and ask.  Forgive
me if my ignorance annoys.  Is there a FAQ available?
    My FW was born on January 7, 1941.  She came with attachments and manual
and had been very tenderly cared for.  I cleaned her up and she sews like a
champ.  

Here are my questions:

    What is Graham's manual?
    What is the little grey felt disc with a hole in it?  I thought it was a
"washer" for the plate at the bottom of my FW, because I discovered it on
the table after taking the wing nut off the bottom.  Am I wrong?
    I'm using standard Singer needles and gettting good results.  Should I
be using something else?
    
Thanks so much for all of the shared enthusiasm and information.

Sharon
    



Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 18:12:21
Subject: Just 1 FW

     Hi, My name is Terri and I live in Eastern WA. Since I love 
to sew anything sewing related catches my eye. Once I found the 
FWF list I started taking notes and reading everything I could 
find on FW I thought I'd really like to have just ONE older 
machine like the FW that I'd use (along with my Bernina 1030 and 
New Home 9000) for quilting classes.Well I love mystrey and 
detective storys, so along with my love of shopping and bargain 
hunting I was off on my 1st mission.......
     Week 1-  One Domestic treadle in excellent condition,book a  
              and attachments  ( have no idea what year I bought  
              the price was right and it is beautiful!)
              One 15-91 in bentwood case that sat in closet for   
              47 years! All original attachments + book.

     Week 2-  One FW  AF in GREAT condition original case all in  
              tact just a couple of scuffs.  I asked this lady if 
              she had any sewing machines for sale since it was a 
              moving sale and there was alot of fabric, she said  
              no just a little black Singer in case she thought   
              she'd sale! My pulse quickened when she went to fi
              nd it. YEP!! You guessed it a FW, and when she saw
              my poker face she went back for the card table that 
              went with it!! HONEST not one scratch on top just   
              around the edges. I offered 200.00 Her face lit up
              sold! After I left I realized I could have got it   
              for less but I was so surprized I found one in such 
              good condition so soon!

     Week 3-  At a yard sale one block from house I found a old b 
              beat-up sewing machine case, looked and found what  
              looked like a FW. This time I did'nt want to appear 
              too interested so I asked how much she said 20.00 I 
              smiled gave it to her and I now have a 301A in Gr   
              eat shape!!

              My DH who week one keep asking Why???? has bought 
              99k and a 128 in bentwood case!!! Total investment
              450.00  How are we doing?? I thought I could count 
              on him to keep me in control, now I'm worried about 
              him! All this for just 1 FW!!! Who knows what's     
              next!!!! MAYBE A WHITE FW!!!!!!
              
              
              



Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 17:52:49 -0400
Subject: Re: FW FAnatics 6/23/96

In a message dated 96-06-24 08:58:51 EDT, you write:

>Is there a US contact for ISMACS?  

In Toy Stitchers Newsletter:  ISMACS stands for International Sewing Machine
Collectors' Society. For more information Toy Stitchers can contact Maggie
Snell at 48 Nightingale House, Thomas More Street, London E1 9UB. England
OR Sharon Tedrow, PO Box 336, Orcas Island, WA 98280 in the USA
OR Brenda Dean, PO Box 105, Tyabb, Victoria 3913, Australia.

Toy Stitchers (for toy sewing machine collectors) subscription is $18 USA &
Canada, $24.00 Airmail all others. Remit to Toy Stitchers, 623 Santa Florita,
Millbrae, CA 94030



Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 15:25:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Jones brand machine with cabinet

Hello all....I just subscribed to this newsgroup and I have learned SO 
much in just a few days!!!!  Thank you SO much, Sue, for your generous 
time and effort given to all of us!!!!

I have a question I would like answered ASAP...  I was in an antique 
store the other day and saw a sewing machine table (one small side 
drawer) with a bentwood case covering the treadle machine.  When I took off 
the case I saw a breathtaking Jones sewing machine with gold, red and green 
embellishments!!!  I had NEVER heard of this brand (I've been sewing for 
30 years--since I was 6-- on Necchi, White, Universal, Bernina and 
Featherweight), and I realize from reading on this newsgroup that there is 
SO much I have to learn about antique machines.  

Can someone let me know about these machines, quality etc..?  Also, what 
do you think of a price of $250 for the machine and table/cabinet?  I 
havent gone back, but will as soon as I hear from any of you.  Thank you 
so much in advance!!!!

Bye for now,  Diana
(e-mail me at:   dforhun@ucdavis.edu )



Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:22:29 -0400
Subject: Treadle Machine

Hi all, 
I hope that I can "pick" your brains a little, everyone has 
such good advice! I have decided to look for a treadle machine
and would like to know if anyone has ideas on what to look for 
in a machine. I  want this to sew with so I am looking for ease 
of use instead of beauty (not that being pretty wouldn't be a plus)
I am hoping to go looking at garage sales starting this weekend.
Wish me luck, and thank you for all your advice!
Happy Featherweighting,
Desiree Gosson
____________________________________
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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 08:37:20 -0500
Subject: FW Fanatics 6/26/96
To: Sue@quilt.com
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Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:30:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: I'm famous! (USNews out today...)

(Posted to Quiltnet, Quiltbee, FFW, and Wearable Arts List)

What fun I had today!  My sister from California called to say she had
just run out to buy the US News &World Report issue that I was
interviewed for...and there I was!  So, of course, I ran over to the 7-11
myself and made the poor clerk rip open three bundles of magazines that
hadn't been put on display yet.  And there I am on page 59 of the July 1
issue!  Here's what it says next to the photo of me surrounded by my
quilts: 

"Barb Tricarico, 48.  A quilting teacher, Tricarico joins four online
discussion groups about...what else?...quilting.  In round-robin fashion,
the Vienna, Va. resident corresponds with her far-flung friends for the
latest tips on, say basting a quilt.  It beats a textbook, she says." 

I did mention the four on-line lists by name, but sorry, guys, no mention 
of any by name.  

I'm enjoying my 15 minutes of fame!  By the way, why me?  it's just who
you know.  USNews got my name from a fellow quilter, who got her name from
an editor, who's also a quilter.  (Networking?) I'm still shaking my head
because this article is entitled "Welcome, women...these nifty sites show
why more women are frequenting the Internet."  I've subscribe to a freenet
(Capaccess) for two years...no WWW, no graphics, no bells and
whistles...just text.  They kick me off after one hour but I keep
re-dialing until I'm back on.  I love it.  Not only does it beat a
textbook, but I've made some neat friends online, too! 

Barb Tricarico
Vienna Virginia
Btricari@capaccess.org



Date: Tue, 25 Jun 1996 22:39:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Stems and pieces

To Debbie:

How "old" does an "old Elna" have to be?  I ran into one dealer who has
what I thought was a really strange looking green Elna.  I swear it almost
looked like boxy letter "C" but backwards.  Unfortunately #1, I didn't get
the model number OR the price, and unfortunately #2, I don't think I'll be
seeing this fellow again until fall.  However if you will post more
details, I'll keep my eyes open.

To Melodie:

Two hints: 1) make sure the needle is in correctly, i.e., seated all the
way up to the stop and with the flat side toward the LEFT.  2) When you
thread up the machine, make sure the thread is firmly seated all the way
between the tension disks.  I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "will
not sew a stitch", but these were problems for me when I first started
working with my FW.

Graham: Thanks for the address.  I'll be passing it along on Saturday.

Lydia in central Ohio, where the weather has cooled off a bit and we are
looking forward to sleeping with windows open in fresh air again!


                                  _   _
Lydia Pratt                      |_|X|_|
Columbus, Ohio                   |X|*|X|
lspratt@freenet.columbus.oh.us   |_|X|_|



Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:21:02 -0400
Subject: White

Fritz906
6-26-96
Okla                    
    Hi all well good things come in 3's, I need one more, I just found a
White Treadle in a beautiful oak cabinet ,looks like a nice piece of
furniture , can't tell it's a SM till you open it up. it has White Rotary
made in USA on Arm with lots of flowers, on back of SM it has 814 l <0> , it
was soooo!! dirty and some rust, I cleanned it up and oiled it good, and
bought new belt &needles , it runs great now, never misses a stitch , never
breaks the thread just keeps on sewing a beautiful stitch.It has a manual an
lots of attachments. I know I will injoy this one for some time,
 Dad &I are going Searching this wk end, as Dad is really getting into
helping me with my machines ,it's addicting you know.
He also looks for guns. Will probably go to Ark ,looking. Any  ideas???
   I saw a 99 at my local SM store it;s like mine, only no K, it is in a
brown leather &oil cloth, case , no manual, she wants $300. for it , feel
it's worth it,  but I have mine so will keep looking. My house is begining to
look like a SM museum , don't know where I'm going to put anymore SM, but I
have't started putting them under the beds yet, HA!! 
      Searching , Searching  Sandy:):)



Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:22:19 -0400
Subject: Cinderella Sewing Machine

Hi FWF,
Can anyone tell me who made the "Cinderella" Sewing Machine. I know it was
made in Japan, but that is about it. It is a small, smaller than a 3/4 head,
black and very ornate.
A friend has it and would like to know more about it. It was made possibly in
the 50's.
Thanks!  Glenn  gwillie37@aol.com



Subject: Needle Thanks!
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:38:34 -0500

To all who responded to my request for info on my serger needles.   I =
appreciate, and have saved all of the answers for future use.  I did =
find some in a Singer store in a bigger town. =20

Barbara in Deep East Texas where everything is out of business except =
Wally World!



Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:23:41 -0700
Subject: Elna Lotus

To Mary Lehrhoff:I read your comments ref the Elna Lotus and tried to get
back to you,however our machines don,t seem to want to talk to each other so
I thought you may see this thru FWF.I,ve got a Lotus complete with
manual,some attachments,carrying case and all in excellant original
condition.I would say a definite 8 or 8+.My problem is that I can,t come up
with a fair (repeat fair) price on it although I,ve tried every source I can
think of.Anyways I,ve got one and will part with it eventually.I don,t wish
to gouge anyone,on the other hand I,d like to get full value for this little
sweetheart.
Don from Campbell River
British Columbia Canada 
The Salmon Fishing Capital of the World where we have finally got sunshine.



Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 08:34:53 PDT
Subject: Bobbin Winder unevenness and Women's Institute

To the woman with the bobbin winder unevenness.  I had a similar 
 problem very recently with my 128 and found with a little 
 experimentation what I think the problem was.  I was winding a whole 
 series of bobbins.  I was using different leftover spools of thread.  
 One was the good Coats and Clark poly wrapped cotton.  One was a 
 cheaper polyester and the third was a really cheap thread.  You 
 guessed it.  The good thread wound really evenly; the cheaper thread 
 wound a little unevenly but okay.  The really cheap thread just got 
 stuck at one end and then pushed itself off the end of the bobbin - I 
 never could get it to even wind..  This may be your problem.  There 
 just wasn't polyester stretchy thread back in those days!!

Re Women's Art Institute:  It seems everytime I read something on this 
 digest, I come upon something related two days later!!  I was in a 
 book shop looking for Singer books (found one), asked the guy if he 
 had any advertising stuff.  As I was looking through the stuff and 
 went back to counter, he had a pile of eight other sewing books.  One 
 was original edition of Kretzinger and Hall quilting book ($8 needless 
 to say I bought).  Another was Vol. 1 of Women's Institue Sewing 
 series by Mary Picken.  It was only $8.50, so I bought also.  I was 
 going to just pass it along, but it is a wonderful, wonderful book if 
 you are interested in fabrics etc.  and I am not able to let go of it 
 at this time.   It has pages of tables of different types of fabrics, 
 cost, characteristics, how to differentiate using many different 
 tests.  It also has chapters on different kinds of lace with pictures 
 to identify both machine and hand made.    The book was published in 
 1923 and said that the Women's Institute was a mail order sewing 
 source.  It was run by Mary Picken.  As the Singer book published in 
 1949 was also by her, she was one prolific lady and for a long time.  
 The Singer book said she was the author of 91 sewing books.!  There is 
 a featherweight pictured in the Singer book and a lot of great 
 attachment stuff.

Sorry for the long posting.  Will be on vacation for two weeks and will 
 really miss.



Date: 26 Jun 96 11:24:04 EDT
Subject: post

For  Melodie.  re:  picks  up the bobbin thread, but won't sew. Make sure that 
the  bobbin  case  holder's postition finger, aka "tongue", is situated in the 
notch  of the postition plate under the throat plate. Refer to fig. 34 on page 
18  of  your  service  manual.  Also  check  to  make sure your the needle bar 
bushing  and  postition  hook  is  timed properly - again refer to the service 
manual, pages 9 and 10. Good luck and enjoy your camping trip...

For  Denise...  Sounds like you have a centennial model 128 vibratory shuttle. 
You  can call Singer @ 1-800-877-7762 and give them the serial no. and they'll 
tell  you  the  model no. and the birthdate of the machine. BTW, the "hole" in 
the  base is for the power cord if the head was mounted in a cabinet... PS: we 
sell parts and manuals for these machines (blatant commercial plug).

For  Anne... The bobbin winding thread guide on the base in front of the light 
switch  is  adjustable  - left to right. Play with the adjustment to help even 
out  the  thread being wound onto the bobbin. Also, make sure you have a spool 
pin  spring  on  the  spool  pin  to  minimize spool rattle and fluctuation of 
thread tension while bobbin winding. 

For  Sharon...  The 'little grey felt disk with a hole in it' is a spool felt. 
It  may  be  grey  now,  but  originally,  it was black. The FW uses two spool 
felts,  one  on  the  spool  pin and one on the stud that the knurled nut goes 
onto  to hold the bottom pan on. The felt prevents the nut from scratching the 
pan.  I  prefer  Schmetz  needles, primarily for their sharpness and the handy 
needle  cases  they  come in. And of course, (blatant commercial plug) we just 
happen  to  sell  the felts and needles and a whole bunch of other goodies for 
the FW... Email me for a price list!

For  all...  Come  visit  our  quilt  shop's  home page and our sewing machine 
pages! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/webspinner/quilts.htm



Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:56:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Quick update - FW has recovered

Hi - just a quick note to let everyone know that even before anyone had a 
chance to respond to my request for help on repairing my FW - I was able to 
heal it!   It is now working fine and can go camping with me tomorrow. 
(actually it is the only thing that is packed and ready to go - we have to 
have our priorities of course)  It really is a great feeling to fix one of 
your old machines and get it working right.  I remember when all I had was 
my Mom's old Kenmore and and would get really frustrated with it when it 
wouldn't work right and all I would think was that I had to get a fancy new 
machine (I never would think that all it needed was oiling and a little 
TLC). After buying a Pfaff (hobby model - nothing fancy) and then getting 
hooked on FW and old Singers now I enjoy cleaning and oiling them and the 
gratification you get when they work!!

To Terri in Eastern WA - I relate completely to your post!  All I wanted was 
one FW - now two FW's and about 10 various Singers later....  And also my SO 
caught the bug as he has bought at least four of the Singers himself!!

Well I am off on my camping vacation tomorrow and I will miss reading all of 
your posts but I will have them to look forward to when I return to work (at 
least that should help ease the return to work blues)

Melodie in upstate NY (praying for not too much rain in the next week!)



Date: 26 Jun 96 12:58:09 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To Betty re threading New England machines

What we have here, Betty, is a terminology problem.When I use the word bobbin
I'm meaning something with thread wound on it -- in this case the "spool" or
"reel" of cotton as bought in the shop.
This bobbin/spool/reel fits atop the needle bar and, as you say is the only one
as the machine makes a simple chain stitch via the looper patented by Chas
Raymond in 1861.
Sorry for the confusion. Had it been a lock-stitch machine I'd have been 
talking
about the upper and lower bobbins. What do you guys call, what I call the upper
bobbin?

To Ann Marie in Australia and other visiting Washington

Glad you enjoyed the US trip.. There are literally hundreds of early machines
and patent models hidden away in the vaults under the Smithsonian. Problem is
that the curator, a lovely lady called Barbara Janssen has little time. If you
are planning a trip and want to see more than the couple of machines on display
it's worth writing ahead of time to Barbara whose title is Curator of Textiles
and saying that you would like to be shown some of the stored machines. Works
most of the time if Barbara is available.
Glad you like the Landgraf book. Many of the pictures are from the original
Maggie Snell collection which we sold off 20 years ago and started all over
again. Wouldn't like to try that again now.

To Barb in Pottstown

The machine sounds expensive to me and the saleman far too pushy and totally
wrong about the value of the shuttle.
Suggest you get over to Kutztown and Adamstown during one of the Extravaganza
weekends -- there will be plenty of handcranks to pick from. Think the next
weekend is towards the end of September.
If Bill has a moment of spare time I'd love to know what a RV-6A is.

To Mary re free-arm 500s

Will forward details of the ISMACS meeting by private e-mail.

There were quite a few free-arm 500s including the 522 (free-arm version of the
502), 533 (513), 534 (514), 538 (518). Note, all of the above have 20 added 
onto
the type number for the free-arm, version.

Singer 24 has me guessing unless it's the American designation for the
"Automatic" built around the turn of the century to rival the Willcox and 
Gibbs.
Should be very pretty with floral decoration all over and a small flywheel with
scollops all round the edge. If hand crank should have geared up drive wheel.

Only other chain-stitch (apart from toys) was the 30 with virtually no decor at
all and sitting on four  self-contained cast iron feet.

The "24" if complete with crank would be a fair buy at between $50 and $200
depending on condition. That Condition rating 4 to 9 respectively. Don't bother
with it if it is less than a 4.
There should be no trouble getting it to work but make sure the tension
mechanism is all there and the hook under the clloth plate that makes the 
stitch
hasn't gone walkabout.

Graham Forsdyke in London, surrounded by maps and trying to work out the
logistics of a US trip.  



Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 10:43:56 -0700
Subject: Mint Green Featherweight

Hi Graham, I have just bought my FIRST FW.  Could you help me find a set 
of attachments and exactly what should I be looking for to go with this 
machine?  A little about the machine:  it is mint green with no scroll 
work whatsoever.  The model number is 221K and made in Great Britain.  
The foot control is wired directly into the machine.  All I got was the 
machine, case and three extra bobbins.  The machine stitches great!  I 
would rate it's condition between your 8 &9.  It has a wear spot on top 
of the motor in the paint.  The case is in very good condition.  The only 
wear on it is a tiny spot on one corner of the lid and inside on the 
bottom panet where the FW's four little feet sit.  I would very much like 
to make this machine complete with all it's attachments and also an 
instruction manual.  If you have any suggestions please e-mail me.  
Thanks Sue Green-Baker  suegb@community.net



Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:55:31 -0400
Subject: Treadle Find--You want?


I was at one of my favorite used furniture stores yesterday (i am looking
for a treadle table, to I can convert my motorized 192?? 99K to a treadle
machine--maybe for display, maybe to use.  The wiring on the motor is bad,
and the electronics in the oak carrying case look suspect, and I do not
have the knee bar that should be in the case...)

I didn't find my table (but they get them on a regular basis, and I DO
check in with them every couple of weeks)...but they did have this
wonderful find (and marvelously priced)...

Thought somebody might be interested.  (How to get it is another
question...)

There was a Singer treadle machine.  From what I could read it looks like
it is a model #: 3I-15.  It definately appears to be an industrial machine.
SN: G4264202...I think, it was hard to read the first couple numbers and
the last 2 was 1/2 space lower than the rest of the numbers...

The plate says that is was patented Feb.21, 1899.

The head shows wear--paint worn completely off where the fabric would rub
against it, and some scratches..but the gold where fabric, etc. wouldn't
rub is still intact.  The head is quite long...about a 15" space from the
needle to the mechanical works...and nice and high.  If someone wanted to
do machine quilting with a treadle, you could probably fit a queen size
quilt in here...

The table top appears to be oak, is about 20" deep, with an 8" dropleaf
extension off the back.  It is about 3'-3.5' long.

Cast iron treadleworks base in good condition.  A good leather belt.

The table has a manual tensioner for the belt, a spindle near the righthand
back that looks like it would hold large spools or thread, and one or two
other gadgets (these are not in my notes, and my memory for these kinds of
details sometimes fails...).  I think you could wind bobbins while
stitching..

There was fabric in the machine to show the quality of the stitches--quite
good.  Itvfelt as if it had a rotary bobbin (but it was jammed in with a 
lot ofvother things, and not easy to reach.  I could play with most of it 
from the back of the table, but I couldn't remove the bobbin to look at it.

Anyway,  i didn't want it, but told them I would post this information to
the net. (It might help them remember that I am looking for a Singer
table)..

Important information here:  they are asking $75.  (That is a U-Haul-It
Away-Price).

These same people regularly sell 99Ks and other cabinet machines for
$25-35.  The highest price I saw on a treadle machine (now I really wish I
had bought it)..was $85.  It was a Jones?, from about 1900 I think.  They
weren't sure if it worked, because it was missing a belt.

If you are interested in this machine, please call:

	THE MISCELLANEOUS BARN
	(216)354-5289 (business phone)
	(216)354-4238 (home number)

The owner is named Bob Welch.

They are located in Painesville, Ohio (east of Cleveland).


--
deb roby				fs708@cleveland.freenet.edu					




Date: 26 Jun 96 14:26:00 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To Mary Ruth

The e-mail address for your sister is not valid. Hope you pick this up. No
charge for the manual. Just confirm whether fiddle-shape or rectangular base 
and
send snail address

Graham F

To Jan re ISMACS
Shame on you.
International Sewing Machine Collectors' Society but I like your alternatives
and will use them in the next magazine.. I will send you private e-mail with a
little about the group.American representative etc.

To Sharon

The SRM (Singer Recognition Manual) was a publication from 1982  with pictures
of all Singer machines sold in the UK. It was aimed at Singer dealers so that
they knew what they were talking about. It's being reprinted for research
purposes for FWFs. Watch for postings from Bobbie Kopf who has taken on the job
of distribution.

Yes the silly felt washer goes on the tray stud between the tray and the nut.

Re needles: If it works, don't fix it.

To Diana re Jones.

Jones was the largest English manufacturer, starting in the 1850s and 
continuing
in production until the early 1960s when bought out by Brother who promptly
trashed all the company archives.
Good quality machines, by appointment to the Royal Family., Rare in USA, common
in the UK. Would really need to know the model to guide you on the price. $250
would be very expensive for some models but just about OK for the rarer ones.

To all

A posting yesterday could give the impression that ISMACS is only for Toy
Collectors. Not so. We have a toy section withing the 48-page magazine (plus a
Featherweight section) but most of it is dedicated to normal domestic machines. 

Graham Forsdyke  London



Date: 26 Jun 96 15:26:59 EDT
Subject: Contribution

To Mary Lehrhoff re ISMACS meeting

Mary, I've tried every variation of your address but all keep coming back. 
Would
you please e-mail me direct?

Graham Forsdyke	



Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 01:26:51 -0700
Subject: felt disk

Sharon, my FW came with a red felt disk.  It goes on the thread holder and I
assume it is for making the spool of thread turn more smoothly.

If the needles you are using for your FW are working fine, I could see no
reason for looking for a different brand.  You know that old saying "if it
ain't broke, don't fix it."



Viola on Whidbey Island, Washington




Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 20:35:44 GMT
Subject: 27

Hi everyone, 
            I finally went back to a local shop and bought my new model 27,
BD 6-10-01. When I got it home and began to really go over her I noticed
that a machine in this good condition was either never used or it had been
repainted by a professional. Didn't I read that Singer still repaints their
old machines?I only ask that because the medallion has also been painted
over, probably because getting it off would probably damaged it.On close
inspection the gold is beautifully done so it must have been an expert who
did this. I'm happy to have found this machine. When trying to use it the
first time I was suprised by the powerful speed it has. None of my other
machines can even sew half this fast. Its like a runaway train at top
speed.Must have a larger motor, more for comercial usage than home. 
           The best is it came with 3 bullet shaped bobbin cases. Only all
3 are different from eachother.I'm going to study my manuals and see which
ones fit which machines and then what I don't need I'll post here for
sale.They each have their own little bobbin too. Anyone interested can mail
me privately. 
 
To Terri in WV :  I envy those bentwwod case machines you've been running
into, no such luck here.Congratulations! 
 
To Diana: Most dealers I've seen do sell well kept treadles in that price
range.If you can be patient you will surely do better cost wise, but if the
machine has your name written all over it and may be the only treadle you
buy, indulge. Just remember its habit forming and you might buy at least 6
or more machines at that total cost. 
 
to Desiree: Try and stick with a well known brand name treadle so that
parts etc. can be readily had if necessary. The best approach would be to
buy one intact maybe just replacing the always needed new belt.You can mail
me if you like for more info. 
 
To my friend Sue: So happy to have helped you out with your new toy.But
I'll leave you to tell your own good news. 
 
To All:  
        This may sound a bit fluffy, but I do appreciate this digest and
the new found friends I've made.Aside from learning so much over the past
few months I honestly can say that this is the nicest group of people I've
EVER  had the pleasure of dealing with. I only hope for all of us that it
can go on for a very long time, and Sue I give you an honorary medal for
putting us all together in a very pleasant place!!!!!!! 
               Reguards to you all 
                                            Maggie in NY



Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:37:14 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 6/25/96

I'm trying to find the tention assembly for a Singer #20.  My local guy
looked and found nothing in his "stash."  Who was it that had the FW case
keys?

thanks

Judy - in West Central Illinois



Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 16:52:42 -0400
Subject: 127/128 hiccup;  Kenmore 49; rufflers;  301 attaachments; manuals

For those of us with the hiccup in the needle bar on the 127/128 
machines...I have been told by two repair persons that this was the 
design of the machine to do that.  This was supposedly the only way to 
get the machines to pick up the thread properly with those shuttle 
bobbin cases.

My aunt bought a Kenmore Model 49 machine.  It is a straight stitch 
only.  Forward and reverse.  Rotary hook under the bed.  It takes FW 
size bobbins.  It does not take the FW bobbin case.  It has a friction 
feed motor.  Top clamping feet.  It has the straight stitch foot and I 
have a gatherer/tuck foot that should fit it.  It is a portable in 
what is similar to the bottom of a Singer bentwood case.  It is 
carried in a large suitcase like case.  Larger than any Singer case 
I've seen.  It does sew and actually makes a good stitch.  I don't 
know anything about how old it is but it was pre-1968 as it is listed 
in the Sincere book.  She (my aunt) gave it to me...I have no need for 
it and don't particularly want to keep it.  It is really quite a large 
case and would be a pain to ship but if anyone in the northern 
Kentucky area is interested let me know.  (Cincinnati, Louisville, 
Lexington, maybe Columbus as I need to make a trip up there 
anyway--Lydia???  :) )

I have two Singer rufflers for low shank machines.  On my FW and on my 
128s there is very little clearance between the bottom of the ruffler 
and the bed of the machine.  And on the FW if I turn the hand wheel to 
the point that the feed dogs are up to grab the fabric the presser bar 
will actually trip and the lever will fall of it's own accord.  Is 
there some adjustment that needs to be made with the presserbars?  Are 
they too low?  (Seem fine with other attachments.)  Or are the 
rufflers supposed to be that close to the bed of the machine?

Does anyone have any extra 301 attachments?  I have only the straight 
stitch feet and of course the buttonholer and zigzag attachments...but 
how about what came with the machine?  Contact me via private email 
and we can talk price.

I just found a shope that has some few original manuals.  I got an 
original for my Model 15-91.  She had one for a 221 (221-1 I think).  
It did not appear dog-eared or anything...just the usual wear that is 
associated with use (ie the cover looked like it had been abraded 
(sp)).  She also had another original for a 15-91 that was in worse 
shape.  The cover was there but it was worn into two pieces at the 
seam.  They will be 13 bucks each plus tax and shipping.  First to 
reply via private email will get them (or it).  She did have some 
other manuals for later models.  No 301 though.  I can check for 
particulars if anyone is interested.

Jim
-- 
James L. Wilson

jwilson@uky.campus.mci.net
http://www.geocities.com/soho/2755
http://www.geocities.com/soho/2755/sewing.html



Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:09:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Jones treadle

Hi again...I hope I didn't appear rude or pushy when I asked for "ASAP" info 
and opinion on the price of a beautiful Jones machine I found in an antique 
store.  If it is a good price then I would need to go back soon...if not, 
then I'll take my time.
Thank you so much for any information.  You are all a GREAT group of 
people with such great stories! 
Bye for now....Diana



Date: Wed, 26 Jun 96 14:19 PDT
Subject: Loving this List

I'm a new subscriber and enjoy all the postings.  I found my FW in my attic!
After getting into quilting I thought that my grandmother's old machine
might look "cute" as an antique perched on a shelf.  I'd remembered putting
it away years ago, but I didn't know if it even worked or that they were so
coveted.  Had it oiled and cleaned for $30 and it's hummed along great these
past 7 years.  My quilting sister &I have "shared" it and I just took it to
a great class, where we cleaned, oiled and lubed it.  The  $12 class was
held in a wonderful antique shop 30 minutes from Portland, OR where the
proprieter handles FW in the $375 range.  That evening a white one was
brought in that had never been sewn on!  A neighboring antique dealer had
just acquired it and it was sold for only $265!  How I wish I had gotten in
on that deal!  My FW's serial no. is AD 785617 and was born on Nov. 27, 1934
(a non-quilting sister's birth date).  My best friend just bought an AL
model (a 9 on Graham's scale) for $495 (ouch!) at a local antique store.
The case is absolutely pristine but there was no manual and not all of the
attachments were there (although she did get the buttonholer with box &
manual with it).  I hope to find another FW as a gift to my sister.

A question:  Are the interior pads (part #45800) to absorb the oil still
available?  I just ordered the rubber feet from the Singer dealer in
Bellvue, WA. and he didn't have any. 

Karen Popma, Portland OR
 



Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 14:51:51 -0600
Subject: Questions

Greetings all! I've got a mystery part her that I thought I had figured 
out but alas! It is a semi-circular (approx. 2" dia.) flat piece that 
seems to fit (hook) over the throat plate covering up the feed dogs. I 
has a small hole in the center for the needle to fit through. There is a 
convexed concentric circle around the hole raising the part's height. (I 
sure hope this makes sense to someone.) On the under side is printed 
Simanco USA 32622. I had thought this was some kind of feed dog cover 
that I could use for free quilting however I can't seem to get a stitch. 
 I've lowered and raised the presserbar both with and without the foot 
on and no stitch forms. What is this part and how do you use it. I was 
trying it out on my model 66 if that matters. TIA
  Another question, please.  Over the weekend I purchased a 1940 model 
128. She has the Godzilla finish and is just beautiful. Her throat 
plates are the blue/black metal which makes her so mysterious looking.  
I really like her.  She's a keeper for sure.  My question: The front 
throat plate slides easily to expose her shuttle but the rear throat 
plate does not budge. Should it move, is is necessary for it to move?
Any help on either or both of my questions I would greatly appreciate. 
Again, thanks. Jacque in Boise.
BTW, Glenn, I have a motor from a model 15 you are welcome to if you can 
use it.
All: I have a few extra buttonhole cams in the freebie box if interested 
e-mail what you want and I'll send off if I have it.



Date: Wed, 26 Jun 1996 18:58:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Stems and pieces

To Barbara:  Exactly what has "tact" got to do with getting your machine
back.  After all, it's YOUR machine, isn't it??  You just lock you
daughter in the basement until she promises in writing to give it back to
you right???

To Jan (not Bob): Right on all counts, I think!

To Sharon: If you're using regular needles and have no problem, don't
change anything.

Hint: For those of you who have a magnetic seam guide -- the next time you
have to take any screws out of your machine, turn the seam guide upside
down and let it "hold" the screws until you're ready to put them back. 
Works like a charm!

Cases: I went to the Wal-Mart near work today and looked at the camcorder
case that someone recommended.  It is fairly well padded and I think it
would do just fine.  One note: it's only 10 inches deep.  I measured
because I was wondering if a Spartan would fit in it (the answer is no, a
Spartan needs 12" of "headroom" [pun fully intended]).  Loads of
pockets, too.  Anyway, as long as the 10" is enough, I think a FW would be
very comfy in there.  BTW, the cases are back in Electronics with the
camcorders and CD players.

Have to go.  Quilting is at MY house tonight!

Lydia in cool and sunny central Ohio, where it's supposed to go back up to
90 in a couple of days (rats!!)

                                  _   _
Lydia Pratt                      |_|X|_|
Columbus, Ohio                   |X|*|X|
lspratt@freenet.columbus.oh.us   |_|X|_|



Date:	Wed, 26 Jun 1996 13:20:07 -1000
Subject: RE: Sphinx - Memphis

To: Lehrhoff Mary MSM SUPH US 
Subject: RE: Sphinx - Memphis

Thanks for the note.  BTW, I've tried to email a reply to your account but
they kept "bouncing" back.  Anyway, I'd be interested in getting info on 
any of the other machines you're considering selling.

Thanks,
Charles.

On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Lehrhoff Mary MSM SUPH US wrote:

> 
I'll try to get more details on the aforementioned Memphis and a bit more on 
any others I might part with....I'm running out of room...wait until I tell 
you all the salient details and we'll try to work out a price....I hadn't 
really thought of a proper figure....

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 96 15:25:02 -0500
Subject: FW Fanatics 6/27/96
To: Sue@quilt.com
X-Mailer: LeeMail 2.0.5
Message-Id: 

ATTENTION - ON LINE "REAL" TIME CHAT INFORMATION

For those of you interested in "real" time chatting, we are going to be running 
our first trial on Saturday (tomorrow) afternoon 3pm to 6 pm Eastern Daylight 
Time.  (Though we'll keep the server running longer if we're having too much 
fun to stop )  You will need to download the graphical interface software 
from http://www.thepalace.com/   

The address to connect to is:  204.249.204.11  

The port number is 9998

Since this is our first attempt at hosting a real time chat, I am inviting 
members from all 3 mailing lists.  if this works out, we will schedule specific 
times for each list &open times for everyone.  Hope to see you there.  Please 
e-mail me if you have any questions.

Thanks, 
Sue T



Subject: 221 Club

For anyone who may be interested:  I sent off to get the LOW down on the 221 
Club.....I only have a few minutes, so I can't type the letter or scan it 
in, but in essence it offers you a 221 Club Registry (!!!) for:  25$ 
registration, then $5 for EACH additional (!) machine, with the the 
Quarterly Newletter being $15.00.

For this you get:  The Honor of belonging, a "Handsome" Ownership 
Certification (verifying entry of your machine(s) in the registry..); 
transfer instructions (????) in the event your FW changes ownership; the 
Quarterly Newletter (which costs 15$) providing Free Ads for Members (They 
WANT to hear from you!); Forum to exchange info &experiences - Look for 
them at the larger quilt shows...they hope to be (more) national next year!

1st newsletter is going out in September.  It will contain more (!) details 
on the Registry and an update (???) on the NEW Nancy Johnson-Srebro (isn't 
it Srebo-Johnson?) book.  (PS:  I called her and spoke to her husband who 
said the EARLIEST the book is coming out is November......)

They included a photocopy of the registration application that tells you 
your membership "kit" contains a "handsome" certificate, transfer 
INSTRUCTIONS (!) SERVICE DISCOUNTS,....and ;MORE...

All the power to them.

We have FWFs.  We have no membership fees.  We have registration, no fees. 
 we have DAILY, if not HOURLY reports from the membership.  We can get 
DIGESTS of information.  I think we all know HOW to "transfer" a FW to 
another person.....we post ads when we want to; we get advice from the whole 
world of FWs....for free...we get caring and understanding and like the song 
goes:  "A Whole lotta love...." at least that's how I feel.

AND........we have Sue!  How can anyone else top the Wealth of Riches we 
FWFs have in the FWFanatics.

PS:  I think it's interesting but not surprising that there are enterprising 
folks looking to make a buck....I'm not knocking that, it's just not (to me) 
delivering anything special at all, far beneath the quality of us spoiled 
FWFs... oh well, free enterprize....I have to run off to an all day class 
now and won't be able to check in til tonight at home!!!!

Goodbye for now, dear FWFs...you &Sue have changed my life!  I love you 
all.

Mary in Gorgeous New Jersey where the weather is even better than TEN!!!! 
 It should always be so gorgeous!!!



Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 21:15:14 -0400
Subject: hand crank prices

Regarding Barb's query of yesterday,

I have purchased 2 hand cranks so far.  My German made one is probably an 8
on Graham's scale.  It turned like a hot knife through butter the very first
time I tried the wheel.  Also included were a half dozen feet.  Marked price
was $135 at an antique shop, and I asked for and received a 10% discount.
Total with tax was $126 and change.

The second (which a friend now owns) was also at an antique shop.  This was
a Singer with the egyptian decals.  She needed a little more tlc than the
Veritas.  Also was missing one of the two throat plates.  I don't remember,
but there may have been a couple of extra feet.  I believe they were asking
$80 and I asked if this was firm and got it for $70.

I haven't seen any others yet, but from what I've read I think that $150 is
on the high end of what people are asking for and $70 is low.

For my money, I want a machine that I can sew on.  If it needs work or parts
it had best be a lower price.  But as with all sm's, if it's calling your
name you'll probably own it.

Susan
Arlington, Va



Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 09:48:22 -0400
Subject: buttonholer for sale

Hello all,
Just love hearing all about everyone's terrific finds and all of the lovely
machines out there.  I am still looking for a 301 but haven't found one
yet.
I did find a Singer buttonholer attachment recently and am offering it for
sale.  It is part #160506.  It is in a rectangular green plastic box and
has the manual dated 9/51, 6 cams and the throat plate cover.  The
buttonholer itself is black metal and marked Simanco.  I am asking $20
including postage.
I also have a baggie full of miscellaneous feet including a zigzagger (no
box or instructions), ruffler, zipper foot, and a few others including an
original Singer screw driver marked Simanco #25537 (all metal with loop
handle) First $10 takes it (postage included).
Just recently I got a zigzagger for my featherweight and had such fun
trying it out.  It works best on the smallest zigzag setting and the
stitches look really good.  I am taking a David Walker Workshop at QBL and
he says to bring a sewing machine with at least zig zag capability.  Won't
everyone be amazed at what my little machine can do?
Well, I am off now to do more "lucrative" work.
Shelley (Shelley@cencom.net) in 60 degrees overcast Plattsburgh NY



Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 08:02:14 -0700
Subject: Repairing Singer SMs

I,ve been in the sewing machine repair business for a long time(maybe to
long)and on the verge of retirement.The problem is I really enjoy fixing
sewing machines,especially Singer.Maybe its the expression of relief I see
on a ladies face when she finds out that the only  reason her machine skips
stitches is that she has the needle in backwards or some other simple
problem such as that.
What I would really enjoy is if there are any SM repair people out there who
would like to exchange ideas or war(chuckle)stories about the business I
sure would like to hear from you.I hope FWFers don,t mind me posting this
but I guess I have sewing machine oil in my blood and this forum sure is a
great transfusion.
Don Jerowsky
Campbell River 
British Columbia(Vancover Island)
Canada\where the salmon fishing is still great.



Date: Thu, 27 Jun 96 20:09:31 PDT
Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 6/26/96 

Re: Women's Institute.  The Women's Institute was the 
forerunner of the Internation Correspondence Schools.  It 
was founded during WWI and grew rapidly.  By the early 
1920's they offered classes by mail in all the domestic arts 
and in various business subjects.  Sets of books were 
written for each subject and they are beautiful as well as 
exhaustive.  I've seen the sets on cooking (13 vols.) and 
running a restaurant (8 vols, I think).  The building which 
housed the Women's Institute is now the Scranton Preparatory 
School.  In the late 40's the Women's Institute became ICS 
which is still located in Scranton. Cinda
-------------------------------------
Name: John &Cinda Cawley
E-mail: cawley@epix.net
Date: 6/27/96
Time: 8:09:31 PM

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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:17:05 -0400
Subject: 503 manual

   Hi Folks,
It's been a long time since I have been able to write in with anything,0r
just to listen in on all the good finds you people are getting arounn to.I
finally got my on PC and it took a lot longer than I anticipatted to get set
up.So now I am back in the saddle.
Can any one help me with a manual for a 503.I picked one up at a church yard
sale and it is in very good condition.The machine came with a large supply
of attachments and cams.I am looking forward to using it.If you all can help
I would greatly appriciate it.
My kindest regards to all,
Larry



Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 23:17:45 -0500
Subject: info on FW

Wanted: Information on FREQUENCY OF/REASONS FOR flat matte gray-black finish
on FW with slighty rough, textured metal surface including end-plate, no
decoration on the end plate. Birthdate 12/5/39 according to the singer 800
number.  Three striations (or grooves) run along the front and back of the
work surface(instead of gold trim) and down the center of the end where the
plate usually goes.  The bobbin winder arm and balance wheel rim is chrome.
The word "Singer" in gold appears on the top surface of the lamp cover, not
on the side which faces the user.  IS this an unusual form? The original
owner claimed that in 1939 material for shiny finishes was reserved for
automobiles only!(?)  I would appreciat any info you may  have , please feel
free to e-mail me at eagle@netusa1.net...thanks....
 Randy Martin - Sysop Sudden Impact BBS  317-457-5957  28,800
              - Fax # 317-868-7088
              - EMAIL eagle@netusa1.net
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Subject: FW Fanatics 6/28/96
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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 01:06:18 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Help with FW

Hi Everyone,
Today my dad bought a FW for me at a garage sale for $40. It looks really
good except he did not notice the bobbin case holder had the little arm
broken off next to the screw and the screw is also missing. This is the
first time he found a FW so he really did not know to check the bobbin
area. It is a centennial machine with the oval that says 1851-1951. Does
anyone know if this part can be found and where? It is the part that you
fit the bobbin case in to. There is a number on the broken piece of the
arm. The little broken part was taped right on top of the machine but he
didn't notice that either. The original receipt was with the machine, a
buttonholer and  other attachments. I really hope I can salvage this
beautiful machine and find replacement parts. Also the regular FW foot is
in two parts, the pin that holds them together is missing. Is there anyway
to fix this. I can use a little foot otherwise, I have had good luck sewing
with one on my other FW. Please E-mail me with any info or put information
on the list. I have received answers to every question or problem I have
had with a FW, so thank you so much for such a great and interesting list
of FW material.
Sue



Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:50:30 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 6/25/96

Hi all!

Had a couple of requests for picture(s) of our new family member, Norma,
aka 301A, SN NB081758. So I put one up on the homepage 
http://www.k2nesoft.com/~clay-l. (If you want to see more, let me know 
and I can zap a shot or two with the cap card.) Hope nobody minds that 
I also swiped a copy of the pic of Sue's Featherweight. 
If anyone's looking for a 301A, I can get a black one, NA, shipped to 
you for $150. That covers $99 for the sewing machine guy (who doesn't 
want net publicity, fraid he'll get flooded with requests for old 
machines), shipping, and a little for our trouble. That machine has no 
table, but does have the tray to mount in one. Cosmetically, she's a 7-8 
(normal wear scratches on base, faded "SINGER" on head, 1/4" screwdriver 
gouge on top -ouch, perfect scrollwork on base, beautiful badges.) 
Mechanically, I'd give her a 9 or 10, even the bobbin case looks like 
new, sews great. If we could afford it, we'd keep her ourselves. BTW - 
If anyone wants to trade for a FW, we'll cover shipping both ways. 

Clay

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 16:55:21 +1000
Subject: Model identification help needed

Hi all,

I've recently bought a really pretty treadle Singer and I'm not sure what
model it is or it's age so I hope someone can help.  Also a copy of a manual
would be useful although I have got it up and running.  Here is a long
description.

Serial No. 8373299  Base 14" by 8" fiddle back shape  Lower bobbin is round
in an oscillating case which is vertical and spring loaded so that the case
must be opened to get the bobbin out.  Slide has patent dates from Oct 8,
1878 to May 20 1883.  Tension is to the rear of the face plate and has no
numbering.  Stitch length mechanism is a screw which moves vertically
through 3/4", no reverse.  Bobbin winder is attached to the belt cover and
engages with the belt.  A boomerang shaped piece comes off the back to
reveal all of the drive shaft.
Under the base it says The Singer Mfg Co. N.Y. with the shuttle and crossed
needles trade mark.  This is the same design as the badge.
Decoration is delicate flowers on leaved stems in cream, green adn red with
gold highlights all over including the face plate.  Writing is Singer and
The Singer Manufacturing Co. in gold.
Table has 3 drawers.  The side two have ring pulls with Singer Mfg. Co. adn
the centre is pull out with three compartments.  Ther is a flap to the left
with a cast iron support bracket.  There is a wooden peg to the rear of the
table to support the machine head when it is tilted back.  Rectangular
wooden cover has a decorative panel on the front.
Cast iron base has The Singer Mfg. Co. Trade Mark on both sides and patent
date Jan 4, 1887.
This is a really pretty machine and sews with a slightly wobbly stitch
compared with the vibrating shuttle hand cranks which I have.

Thanks for the invaluable help this list provides, and Sue I love your new
photos

Jeanette shivering in Melbourne, Australia.
 



Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 03:01:06 -0400
Subject: PS

PS to my last message:
When Shelly called Singer to date our 301, they said it wasn't in their
book, so they couldn't help. Well, we found a SM guy who looked it up in
his "big old bible" (a huge looseleaf affair which appeared to be filled
with yellow pages copied from old typewritten sheets) and came up with
1958-59 for NB. Anyone else heard of such a book? Must be related to the
Necromonicon. (Lovecraft reference, for those of you not into old horror
fiction.)

Clay



Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 18:59:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Notes and Stuff


To Jacque:  Yes, the rear slide plate is supposed to come off as well as
the front one.  I had the same problem on the treadle.  What I did was
spray the edges of the plate repeatedly with WD-40 and gently push and
pull until I could see slight movement.  Then I got a hammer (please read
all the way to the end of this sentence BEFORE you all panic) and a small
piece of scrap lumber.  I placed one edge of the piece of wood against the
inner edge of the slide plate (the end towards the presser foot) and 
***>VERY GENTLY<*** tapped just one with the hammer.  The plate dislodged
immediately, and I then used the business end of a large quilter's
straight pin to scrape the solidified gunk out of the bed slots where the
plate slides in.

Lydia in central Ohio, where the AC is back on again.

                                  _   _
Lydia Pratt                      |_|X|_|
Columbus, Ohio                   |X|*|X|
lspratt@freenet.columbus.oh.us   |_|X|_|



Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:55:28 -0700
Subject: Manual Copies sent

        Well............they're in the mail!!!!!!!!!! (Big Sigh)....there
was one "glitch", but not to worry....

        When the postmistress gave me the Total for mailing, I came up $400
short.....well.....needless to say,
I went into Panic Mode.  

        To make a long story very short, somewhere.........I made a mistake
in my figures when I initially 
came up with the cost.  I had "planned" to send the manuals Priority Mail
(to USA addresses).  That was
$3 each.  Well....as I said, I messed up somewhere.......and didn't have
enough money to mail these Priority.....
I do think that the error was compounded by the person in the post office
with her quote...but that's water 
under the bridge.....at any rate.....each of you who ordered a
manual.....it's in the mail and on its way to you.

The second mailing will be going out approximately the week of July 15th!

        I am so very sorry there was this mistake.....and feel terrible
about it.  Had I found an extra $400 somewhere
in my stash, I would have gone ahead and paid for the mistake myself,
but.......as most of you know.....being 
on a "fixed" income, it is and was unlikely that I would have found a
windfall of $400.

The 4 mailings to Canada are also on their way, and one to Australia.  No
matter how they were sent, the cost
was covered ok on those.

I thank each and everyone of you for understanding, that you need patience
with me....cause God isn't finished
with me yet! (smile)
-----------------------=Bobbie=--------------------------------



Date: 27 Jun 96 17:40:18 EDT
Subject: Contribution 21

True stories number twenty-one

I'm not one for name dropping, of course, but did I tell you about my recent
correspondence with the Queen of England.
Feeling that she needed a distraction from her recent family problems, I wrote
to HRH at Buckingham Palace to ask what had happened to her grandmother's 
sewing
machine.
The Royal family were given a machine each year around the turn of the century
by the Jones Company which could thus proudly boast "By appointment to Queen
Victoria, King Edward, King George etc."
My clear thinking  deduced that there was obviously a room set aside at
Buckingham Palace, Windsor Castle or one of the other four official residences
kindly provided by the British taxpayer, where the machines were stored just
waiting for a collector like me to clear away.
Just think what they would be worth. Jackie O's baubles would be cheap by
comparison.
I was even mentally writting the advertisements: "Jones Family CS Model as used
by HRH to run up the coronation gown" or As new Jones Model A, one carefull
Royal owner, some small tiara scratches".
The reply took about two months which disappointed me a little as I had
contributed to the wedding costs for all her children and am soon to be hit in
the pocket again for a couple more divorces.
And I know that you are going to find this difficult to believe, but the reply
came not from the Queen herself but from "a lady in waiting". I hesitated over
'phoning HRH and pointing out that I'd been the one doing the waiting but felt,
on reflection, that a sense of humour was sadly lacking at Buck House.
The reply was less than satisfactory. It told me that a search of the contents
of all Royal residences had been made without turning up a single sewing
machine. However, it pointed out that, if I knew the inventory numbers for the
machines, a more-thorough investigation might be made.
I can't help thinking I've been fobbed off a little here and now I'm going to
defect.
I've just remembered that in 1885 peasants in a small Russian province 
presented
Czarinna Romanoff with a jewell-encrusted sewing machine.
Working on the theory that this was rescued from the Winter Palace, it's
probably knocking about the Kremlin somewhere being used as a door-stop.


Dear Commrade      

I'm wondering if, during your strolls around the Kremlin, you have happened to
have noticed............

This one, I tell you, is going to work.

Graham Forsdyke 

 



Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 08:33:44 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: FW For Sale

	This is the current update of FW's I have for sale. Thirty 
dollars added for shipping, handling, tracking and insurance, except for 
the Sew Handy.

Sew Handy - Hand Crank from the 50's, mint condition, case, seam guide, 
manual, and clamp. $200.

AE  Mint Condition, case, attachments, copy of manual, early tension knob,
$550.
AG  Case, copy of manual, a few attachments, wear on machine $360.
AJ  Case, Manual, attachments, good condition, even wear, $450
AL  Same as above
AM  Superior Condition, Case great, manual, attachments $550.

Please feel free to call @ 619-753-5418 or e for further info. Zsux



Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 19:10:24 GMT
Subject: SM sale

Hi everyone, 
             
              I've decided to downscale my collection to make room for
more. This isn't an easy decision to make but I figured I've had such
wonderful good luck finding so many machines that I need to move some to
new homes.No, I'm sorry I've got only my one FW and that stays forever.  
              I have to start making room because my machines are all on
display with none really hidden. I figure why own one if I can't look at
it. This justifies selling some to look for others, this way I don't ever
have to stop or put them under beds. 
All of my machines work. They are all cosmetically very appealing. Some in
cabinets, some portables. Most did not come with attachments but some have
origional manuals that I've purchased for them, or singer copies.All but 1
are singers and none born after 1927. I've gotten them reasonably and would
like to pass on the savings knowing that shipping can be expensive.I have a
packing and shipping business 3 blocks from me so its not too inconvenient.

I'd be willing to sell the cabinet models out of the cabinets if need
be.I'd list here but  I don't want to take up too much space so e-mail me
for the particulars if interested.I have no 301sor 201s. or handcranks yet
but I'm on the lookout. I've made another wonder ful conection, the kind
I've been only dreaming of.This man is one of those who sell to dealers
only and not the general public,doesn't have the time.I've an appointment
tomorrow afterneen to see some SM and put down a deposit on the ones I
want. Hopefully I'll go home with a smile on my face. 
         Feel free to mail me. Happy hunting, Maggie in NY
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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 96 12:55:56 -0500
Subject: FW Fanatics 6/29/96
To: Sue@quilt.com
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Online Chat -  I Made a Big Mistake

Hi Everyone, 

I'm so embarassed.  I sent out the WRONG address for the online chat yesterday.  
(I didn't have my helper, Josh, age 11 &palace wizard) check it before I sent 
it.  Anyway, we had 5 persistant fanatics make it &those who were there had a 
good time.  I will be trying again this week and the correct address is: 

204.249.244.11  Port 9998

I'm very sorry for any trouble this may have caused and we will be trying again 
this week.

Thanks, 
Sue T


Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 14:33:44 -0400
Subject: Road to Recovery

Thanks to all for your good wishes.  My very very DH brought them to the
hospital along with the daily FWF printouts.  Unfortunately I don't remember
hearing them read to me at the hospital (I'm told that I enjoyed them) but I
am enjoying them now reading them again.  
For those of you that want to know I was riding in a car with 3 other people
that was struck by a Cadillac driven by an 18 year old who had stolen the car
and was being chased by police.  The police had boken off the pursuit because
he was in a residential neighborhood (housing project) but they were still
behind him.  He apparently got out of the car after the impact and was struck
by a police car.  I don't remember the accident or much of the next 10 days
in the hospital but I feel very lucky that a full recovery is expected and
the other three in the car were not as badly injured.  I ended up with two
pelvis fractures, a broken rib and clavical, a collapsed lung and temporary
double vision.  Time will heal.
I've been printing off FWF every day since I got home from the hospital.  I
look forward to it every day.  The last couple days I've actually been able
to sit at the computer and read it (I think the pelvis is healing fast
because the breaks are right where I sit).  
Thanks again to all who sent good wishes.  And a Special Thanks to Julia E.
for sending me the Get Well miniature quilt and Sarah  B. for the neat
fabrics.
Courtney
P.S. I'm waiting until I'm recovered enough to go antiquing with my mom.  She
talked me into buying my first FW at an auction.  We couldn't plug it in to
see if it worked but she didn't care because whe wanted it for parts for her
FW.  $65 later it worked and luckily hers is still running.  She bought hers
used right after she got married and its the machine I learned to sew on so
I'm an FWF from way back:-)



Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 16:26:31 -0400
Subject: misc.

Eventually, I'd like to see FWF get together for a two-day affair.  Perhaps
have people with mint condition FWs, one for each year produced could exhibit
their machines and extras.  And perhaps we could have other machine types on
display.  Of course, there would be a nice dinner perhaps with Graham as
and/or Nancy Srebro-Johnson as key speakers.  Just a fantasy I'd like to see
come true.  I'd even be willing to help bring it together.  Napa Valley would
be nice in N. Cal, but heaven knows there are oodles of other wonderful
locations across the country.  Cape Cod, Salt Lake City, D.C. ...  Food for
thought.

Switching gears ... help!  My Western Electric is giving me problems.  Top
stitch looks great.  Big loops underneath on bottom stitch.  I've played with
tension and with threading the machine.  And reinserted the bobbin case.  Any
other suggestions.  Threading diagram would be most appreciated.  Copy of
manual even better.

I've been checking my mail box religiously hoping to find Graham's pictures
via Bobby Kopf.  Nothing yet.

One last plea before I take off on vacation, I'll be in south-central, rural
Missouri in mid-July.  Flying into Kansas City (here I come).  Any suggestion
as to shops (antique, etc.) that I should brake for?  Looking for handcrank,
treadle, FW(!), other.  Destination Greenfield, MO. (family reunion).

Thanks and have a great week.  --Mari in N. Cal.



Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 17:40:59 -0500
Subject: for sale

    I have a model 66 Singer and a model 27 Singer (egyptian sphynx design)
I'd  like to sell to someone who loves machines as much as I. Also have an
Olympia     and possibly MIGHT ..... sell my 301A (black). All of these
machines sew and are in very good condition. If anyone is interested e-mail
me and make an offer and we'll go from there. I have25 machines and have 2
of the 66 and 27's. If I sell these I can get some more that I don't have
any like. I would love to exchange pictures and info with other old sewing
machine lovers. I LOVE FWF! The best group of people I"ve ever met and
Sue..You are the GREATEST! I tried to get in to the chat but didn't know
what to download nor how to get there.... Help!!!     I want in on it!!!
Sincerely, Doreen
dfoote@cnmnet.com



Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 20:56:33 -0700
Subject: Garage sales

This was a bad garage sale week! Nothing interesting,the only sewing 
machine we saw was a newer Singer,asking $50.00 lady said machine 
belonged to her daughter who didn't like to sew.These newer machines 
aren't worth much and don't appeal to me as much as the antique 
machines.Tomorrow is a flea market day,We are going to try one about 40 
miles from here,we are searching for a hand crank model,maybe tomorrow 
will be the day.Melva 


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