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August 1996

Sunday, August 25th - Saturday, August 31st


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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 96 19:20:33 -0500
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 01:17:06 -0400
From: Cmarx@aol.com
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/20/96

I haven't been on this list for long so if I'm repeating something old, just
ignore me and go on with your visiting.  I just wanted to say that if you
want to find out the age of your FW machine call this number 1-800-877-7762.
 Ask for Customer Relations and give them the serial number found somewhere
on your machine.  Mine was made in 1932 (the same year I was born).  I
learned to sew on a FW back in the 40's and somehow I lost track of that
machine, but this one is very nice with a case and the original foot control.
 I also bought a new book that tells the history of the machine plus is also
an operator's manual.  It is in a black case and is probably a 9 as far as
rating it goes.  (To me it is a 10 however).  The serial number is on the top
of the machine.  I won't say where because it is different in some cases.  My
number was on the opposite side of the machine from others.  Clara
(CMarx@Aol.Com)



Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 21:55:48 -0400
From: Clay &Shelly Leihy 
Subject: What machine to take in a fire?

For us, one could grab the FW's (we have two), and the other could grab
the 301A, since she'll come out of the cabinet in a second. I guess the
401A would have to stay behind, since she's mounted in a BIG art-deco
cabinet.

A similar question would be, "What would be the minimum machine
requirement for your perfect sewing room?" For us it would have to be
the 2 FWs (one for each of us), the 301A for everyday sewing, and the
401A for all her fancy stitching capability and sheer speed. We probably
also would have a hard time getting along with the serger, but in a
pinch, the 401 could do overedging.

Clay &Shelly



Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 01:32:22 -0400
From: CyndiJA@aol.com
Subject: 201 SM

Hi --

Today I found what I think is a 201 at a flea market and of course I bought
it--now I need some help.  I will call Singer Monday to get the exact
information but the machine is a full size head, gear driven (no belts at
all), knee control, integrated motor (meant to be electric, not adapted),
bobbin winder like the 301 with the spool pin and tensioner on the bed.  It
appears to me to be early 1930's--the serial number begins with G, the
tension dial is not numbered, the face plate is scrolled, and the stitch
length adjustment is a dial on the bed of the machine.  The machine appears
to be sound mechanically but the external wiring has some problems.  I did
plug it in for a short while and it worked and sounded pretty smooth.  

My son and I spent most of the afternoon cleaning it up--the gold is rubbed
off on the front edge of the bed but all of the other decals are in really
good shape.  We cleaned a mountain of lint out of the workings, scraped lots
of goop out of the gears, and used lots of WD-40 to clean the body.  

Now for the problems--first, no manual.  So, if anyone has a 201 manual, prefe
rably an early one, and would be willing to make me a copy, I would
appreciate it--of course I would pay copying and postage.  Or, if anyone has
a 201 manual for sale, I'm interested.  

Second problem is electrical--the light on the machine was broken and shorted
out.  For safety reasons, I removed what was left of the light and capped the
wires.  Also, the plug for the power cord into the cabinet is broken, but
still usable although unsafe.  It is a wide plug, oval in cross section that
mates with two round prongs on the machine.  The plug is made in two parts
(top and bottom) that are screwed together.  If anyone has any information on
replacement parts for the light or the plug I would greatly appreciate it.

The cabinet for this machine is really neat--I might have even bought it just
for the cabinet.  It has the two part top that folds to either side, one
center tilt out drawer, and a small pull out drawer on the left.  On the
right is what looks like another drawer front but it is hinged instead and
behind it is a metal bracket that looks to me like it would hold an oil can.
  I would sort of describe the overall cabinet style as Mission but I maybe
using that too loosely--the legs are square, slightly tapered, with some
groove work on them, and there is a bottom trestle connecting the legs
together.  All in all, I like the cabinet a lot more than a lot I have seen
and I really like the idea of a place to hold the oil can--now I guess I'll
have to search for the oil can to go there.

At the same flea market I saw an entire Singer box full of cams for series
600 or 603 machines.  Looked to be about 16-20 cams in the box--the box was
divided into sections and there was one cam in each section.  The box
appeared to be in excellent shape.  I think the price on it was about $6.  If
anyone can use these let me know--it was at a permanent vendor there and they
will be open next weekend so I can run back down there to get them,. if they
are still there.

Thanks for any help with this machine--

                                                       Cyndi  (Janesville,
WI)



From: sarah@zephyr.manawatu.planet.co.nz (Sarah Brown)
Subject: 222k dating
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 20:30:00 +1200

Hello fellow fanatics.

I'm interested in the caption for the 222k in the ISMACS manual. It says 
that the 222k was manufactured from 1955 to 1964. I find this interesting 
as my 222k's serial number is EJ268111 which I understand refers to 
1953/54. I can't ring Singer to get an exact date as I don't live in the 
US. Can anyone throw any light on this?
Thanks
Sarah Brown
New Zealand
--



Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 21:07:21 +1100
From: wpang@pcug.org.au (Wendy Pang)
Subject: Opera Singers

I'm so lucky I have a season ticket to the Australian Opera in the Sydney
Opera House, although I live 350k away in Canberra. So I happily beetled
off to see the new Barry Kosky production of The Flying Dutchman yesterday.
His productions are always imaginative and this was no disappointment.
Although the story is about a Dutch captain condemned to sail the seas
until he is saved by true love, and his meeting with a Norwegian captain
whose daughter will be his salvation, there wasn't a ship in sight. The
action took place entirely in an 18th century drawing room complete with
furniture which magically moved to odd angles occasionally. Throw in the
portrait of the Flying Dutchman - which the girl is obsessed with - but
it's a Mondrian portrait of a few black lines on white, and you can see
it's not your average Flying Dutchman.

But it really worked well. Brilliantly, in fact. Using the stuffy drawing
room - the world of women - to contrast with the wild roving life of the
sailors was great.

The famous spinning chorus was transformed. These women weren't just
sitting with spinning wheels. They were doing longstitch embroidery of
nordic heroes on frames, which were then sewn into cushions on banks of
Singer treadle machines! I was totally distracted from the lovely singing
by trying to figure it out. Banks of 4 treadlies ( industrials or model 66
size) were mounted on a combined stand with the Singer legs, and two sets
of treadles. But in fact only one treadle was needed to make them all go.
So when the heroine was being browbeaten to stick to her normal life
instead of crazily going off with a total stranger who was going to die,
she treadled away on one of the banks of Singers, as they spun the whole
thing around.

Well I guess I've got a bit carried away here. But if you are thinking of
coming over for the next Olympics, consider a magical opera in a magical
opera house by the beautiful harbour.

And remember, it ain't over until the fat lady sews.

Cheers from sunny beautiful Canberra



Wendy Pang                       Southern Cross Quilters
wpang@pcug.org.au          Australian-New Zealand Online Quilt Guild
wpang@abare.gov.au



Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 17:03:26 -0700
From: Bobbie 
Subject: True Story from Graham


True stories number twenty-six

We pick our officers for the International Sewing Machine Collectors' Society
with some considerable care.  For example, we obviously need an editor who is
literate, a secretary with organising skills  and a treasurer who knows his way
around figures.
Thus, when the post of chairman came up (the former occupant was retiring
abroad) we cast around for a member with sufficient dignity, composure and
authority  to run our meetings and represent the society to the outside world.
We had the perfect type -- ex-army officer, presently director of a large
communications company and a really keen sewing-machine collector.
I put his name forward, he was elected and only once since then have I doubted
the wisdom  of the choice.
It was at one of our annual conventions --  the North of England spa town of
Harrogate. One of the lady members had devised a cunning competition by putting
a quantity of cotton spools into a large glass jar and challenging  us to guess
the number.
In announcing the winner from the stage I rattled on a little before coming to
the point (why are you not surprised, I wonder). I said that I had tried to
cheat by enveigling the answer out of the  lady organiser.
Getting carried away a little, I said that I'd tried to bribe her with a
five-pound fruit cake. I even suggested, in hushed tones, that I had offered 
her
my body.
At this stage the Chairman could take no more, he leant back in his chair and 
in
a loud stage whisper said :" You might have had more luck with a six-pound 
fruit
cake"
Like I said,  perhaps we might have picked a better man.

Graham Forsdyke

 



Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 09:20:29 -0400
From: Pnwi@aol.com
Subject: Mark Croissant

Mark

I have been trying to email you, but it keeps bouncing back.  I am interested
in the white FW you have for sale.

Paul Newhof



From: BXTJ10A@prodigy.com ( ALTON   DAVIS)
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 08:55:36, -0500
Subject: Misc.

Lydia,
  The ad that uses the term "Featherweight to describe the 221 is a 14X20
color ad dated 1937.  The ad also shows various cabinets, fashion aids,
vacum cleaners, irons, and electric scissors and features a 201 on the
front.

New treadles,
  The new 15-30 being produced is very pretty but appears to be severely
lacking in quality and does have a plastic knob on the bed.  Of course, if
it was built to the same quality as the original it would probably cost
$700 or $800 just for the head in todays economy.

Embroidery foot?,
  Has anyone ever happened across a spring-loaded foot Simanco 86294?  It
attaches to the needle bar in place of the needle clamp instead of on the
presser bar and fits 66, 99, 127, 128 type machines.  It functions exactly
like the modern spring needle.

                               Al in IL



Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 11:10:57 -0400
From: LFisher902@aol.com
Subject: Re:301 Picture

For Nancy B,
  I would love to take you up on your offer to send a picture of the 301, but
have been unable to get to your mailbox. Need to send you my snail mail
address, Thanks, Laura(L Fisher902@AOL.com)



Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 11:18:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: Tom Jaworski 
Subject: that unmistakable aroma...

I've had noticeable results with using that powdered carpet-odor 
"Neutralizer" (Glade, I think) sprinkled liberally in the bottom of FW 
cases.  For the one that wasn't too bad, I powdered the bottom and 
covered it with a layer of paper towels so my FW wasn't sitting right in 
the stuff, then changed the powder after a week or so of sitting in the 
house.  For the one that was *really* bad, I removed the machine and all 
of the stuff from the tray, sprinkled the bottom and the tray, put the 
tray in the case, closed it up and set it in the sun for a couple of days 
(after threatening my human family with longtime suffering if it looked 
like rain while I was at work and they didn't bring the case inside).  Of 
course, this technique doesn't work unless you find carpet-sprinkle with 
a smell you like better than mildew, since some of the scent lingers 
even after vacuuming out the powder...I didn't think I'd like a 
cinnamon-scented FW!   :)

Thanks for the Rubbermaid-case info.  I found one at the local (pricey) 
office-supply store; has a "locking" handle that swings up like those on 
insulated coolers, but  no storage spots in the lid--at least I know it's 
there if I don't come across the other model.

Rita in NE
jaworski@esu9.esu9.k12.ne.us



Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 12:54:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Margaret A. Frick" 
Subject: Singer 1200-1

Needed:  Good home for a commercial Singer 1200-1, a reversable feed 
lockstitch for dressmakers.  It is in a table with a "treadle type" speed 
control (the machine is electric) and has a knee lift.  My DH thought he 
was buying a version of the 201, when he brought home this baby.  He paid 
$25 for it and we will be taking it to Goodwill if no one is interested.  
I live in Northern Va--so if anyone in the DC area needs this machine 
please contact me at mfrick@capaccess.org.  

And on the elusive FW hunt.  Someone in Arlington found a white one 
yesterday as we got to the yard sale too late!  Must have been cheap as 
the owners said it was never used.  oh well.

Margaret Frick in Arlington, Va



Date: 25 Aug 96 13:01:11 EDT
From: John Ordway <100344.2071@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: Having Fun in Russia

Hello FWFans ....

I'm hoping I can get through this week ... anyway, more sleuthing on my 1911 27
or  Singer find in Russia ....

I've talked back and forth with lots of you, but my update is:

The manual is in Russian  for a 27 or 28 vibrating shuttle.  The accessory box,
in English, says for 27 or 28K machines, which means "it" was made in Great
Britain (the K meaning for Great Britian) ... but I still wonder if the machine
was made in the ???plant in Russia before the Revolution.  

I'm going to join up with ISMACS and ask a few questions ... does my serial
number match those made in GB ... or maybe someone has the obscure info about
the Singer plant in Russia .... PLUS ...
there is another digest I'm going to hook into tomorrow (friends of Russia or
something) where I'll ask about the history of the Singer bldg. in St.
Petersburg and someone will eventually answer me.  I've found reference in a
book called "When Miss Emmie Was in Russia" by Harvey Piltcher (about English
nannies working in Russia around the time of the revolution) that the Singer
bldg. in 1916 was called "Singer House" and housed small offices of the English
newspaper, The Daily Telegraph" but it must have had other offices in the 
bldg.,
too.

I'm at a standstill about getting the machine cleaned up for a couple of months
-- everyone is too busy, but then again, so I am . I've sent out copies of
the manual in Russian to about 5 people for their files/archives; if anyone 
else
wants one, speak up.  I'll also eventually get a photo of my machine and send 
it
to some of you for your files.

I managed to get back to the flea market -- both machines that I passed by
because they were too "worn" looking were not there .... I was interested in
looking at them closely this time; too bad.
Maryjo Ordway



Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 12:41:01 -0700
From: Bobbie 
Subject: To FW Digest

True Story #28 from Graham Forsdyke:

Please post to FW Digest for Graham        

 You can blame Fanatic Mary Lehrhoff for this  story. She wrote in FWF a
whiles back asking if I even got to NJ.  Which reminded me of my last visit
to Newark. Maggie and I had been  plane hopping and driving around the
States using the Visit America  scheme whereby you can pre-purchase a book
of tickets at $100 a throw  and use them between any connecting North West
flights.Our last car  hire was in PA and the plan was to drop it off in NYC
and spend a  couple of days catching up with old friends before the trip
home.  Unfortunately, Alamo, the car-hire company I was using, has no
locations in Manhattan and the car had to be dropped off at Newark. I  had
Alamo at Newark phone for a cab to take me into the big city but  when it
arrived we were in for a little shock.  I know that when cars  pass their
use-by date and fail all control tests that, before going  to that great
scrap yard in the sky, they spend a given time as NYC  cabs before their
final demise. But the vehicle that turned up looked  as though it had just
taken part in a demolition derby -- and lost.  One headlamp pointed
aimlessly at the sky. The other had probably  departed at the same time as
the front fender. The roof was dented  (how do you dent a roof?) and the
whole colour scheme was a mottled  grey and red where previous owners had
tried, and failed, to keep rust  at bay. It lurched to a stop and the
driver, (we'll call him Pancho)  got out. So did his wife and his two
children.Clearly P was a family  man and where he went, they all went. Their
dog stayed in the vehicle.  Pancho blanched a little at the number of
suitcases -- we were at the  end of a month-long trip and a couple of the
cases held complete,  stripped-down treadle machines -- and opened the
trunk. There would  have been enough room were it not for the spare wheels.
There were  three of them, each adorned by what had once been tyres but now
as  devoid of patern as those bolted (I hoped) to the corners of our
conveyance. Pancho started to attempt the impossible. He tried every
permutation of case and wheel but two cases still remained. Let me cut  down
on the agony a little.  Maggie rode in the back with two cases  one dog and
one child. I had the front seat (someone had to navigate)  with the other
child and the wife -- did I mention she was eight  months pregnant? Pancho
spoke no English. His wife spoke not at all.  The eldest child, about 10 I
guess, acted as interpreter suffienctly  to translate my left, right,
straight ahead, don't hit that hot-dog  stand etc instructions into whatever
language Pancho understood. We  only used one of the spare wheels -- just
before the Holland Tunnel.  And what a team Mr and Mrs P turned out to be.
Their wheel change  would be the envy of any Indianappolis pit crew. I guess
if you do a  thing enough times you get pretty good at it.... This was
third-world  travel in the middle of the richest country in the world.
America,  you never cease to amaze me.   Graham Forsdyke     True Story from
Graham



Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 17:27:43 -0700
From: "William F. Campbell" 
Subject: another machine

At a flea market the other day we found two FW's.The first is a 1933 or34 
model with the nickel knobs on the foot control,the second is a 
Centennial model.Both machines are 9's,the case for the older machine is 
missing the leather carrying strap. Has tray with attachments,manual,edge 
stitcher,bobbins. Centennial model has the same minus the 
edgestitcher.The case is all there but someone messed up the hinges,but 
they can be replaced. the older case has brass hinges.DH is cleaning and 
oiling them now.Neither were $25. bargains but were much less than I see 
for sale on this list.WE were just in the right place at the right 
time.Where can I get new hinges? I already have a 1935 machine,this is 
similar except the foot control.........Melva



Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 18:14:15 -0400
From: McBrooks@aol.com
Subject: what machine is best?

Hello! I am a quilter, and like many others, am looking for a FW or other
similar small, portable sewing machine to take to classes, on vacation, etc.
I know that FW's are extremely popular, and that price varies acc. to their
condition, accessories available, etc.

I have enjoyed reading this list for the past few days, and would like to
pose a question to you all. Given that I will mainly do piecing, what do you
feel is the LEAST that I should be looking for on an FW -- in terms of
accessories or gadgets -- to make sure it will be able to do what I want? I
don't need, for example, a buttonholer or binder attachment. At least I don't
think that I do!  Is there some routine test or list of things I should look
for if I find one? What I mean is...what would a typical test drive cover?
What "pieces" should I make sure are with or on the machine?

Is there some other type of portable machine that would serve my needs as
well? It can be a little heavier than a FW, I suppose.  While I realize these
machines are cherished for their beauty among other things, and would love to
get a nice one, I am mostly concerned with finding one that is reliable and
doesn't bankrupt me!

Please respond here or email. Thanks in advance for your advice.



Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 19:28:12 -0400
From: Rose525@aol.com
Subject: thread spool holder

Hello! Does anyone have a thread spool holder for the top of the machine. I
have a 201 and just opened it up again and discovered this pin for the spool
holder is missing. I don't know where it could have gone. Does anyone have
one or a source for one? Thanks, Rose525@aol.com



Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 19:41:29 -0400
From: OFFICEMOM@aol.com
Subject: Search for 301 or 301A

OK.  You've all convinced me I have to look for a model 301 or 301A.  I think
the 301A is the machine for me, or a 301 in a cabinet.  But where to find
one?

I've looked at shops, asked questions, gone to garage sales and in the four
months since I started looking I haven't even SEEN one.  I finally found a
picture of one on the net and downloaded it so I'd know what one looks like.
 I have to admit, I also haven't found a FW outside a shop for almost a year.



Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 19:54:07 -0400
From: WRDipple@aol.com
Subject: FW Breakdown

Say, folks!

All my SM's finally got to my best friend.  She broke down this last week and
bought her first FW (which, also, happens to be her first SM).  With a
birthday of 4/10/40 the little gal's a 7.5 to 8.  The case is in good
condition, though it looks like the it may have been painted with a matte
black.  She came with a ruffler and a binding foot plus five bobbins.  Ellen
has named her FW  after her Greatgrand-mother, Rachel.  Being a quilter she's
now looking for just the right pattern with which to initiate her new little
beastie.

Ah-ha we got another one!! -- She'll have more SM's soon, I just know it.

Wanda from Iowa where school starts tomorrow...goodbye summer. :-(  
   



Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 20:38:30 -0400
From: Steve Stromvall 
Subject: Misc.

Hi all!  No luck finding machines this weekend, but no matter, have
plenty of work to do on the machines I found last month!
Did see a Minnesota M head in 7 condition for $15.  Will give details if
anyone wants to pick it up.
Went to a garage sale last weekend.  Asked about a Morse Fotomatic III
4300.  The lady said she didn't even know if it worked and I could have
it if I wanted it!!!!  Fabulous machine ( made by Toyota!) with lots of
chrome and all metal inside and out.  Presser foot tension on top of
machine had been released, so of course it wouldn't sew well!  Works
perfectly now and I will let Girl Scouts use it for their service
project!  Very forgiving machine--good for beginning sewers.  Anyway, it
didn't come with any of it's attachments--does anyone have any for sale? 
Clay and Shelley Leihy-- Are you kidding?  $45 is worth taking a chance
for both machine and cabinet!!
Everyone waiting for requested 127-128 manual and needle threader
manual--DH has scanned them in and prooooo--mises to bring them home
from work tomorrow!  Will send them ASAP!  Also, was not clear on the
Greist attachments.  They are free except postage cost.  Let me know
what you want.
Gosh, I love this site!  Just wish it came earlier in the day!  Happy
hunting to all!  Sue-- in very humid Peachtree City, GA.



Date: Thu, 22 Aug 96 19:08 EST
From: Fred Headley <0002013163@mcimail.com>
Subject: Wanted to buy

I am looking for two 221 manuals and a 301 manual plus any attachments for the
301. I only have the zig zag attachment and one foot. My sister has a 1965
Singer Touch and Sew in a cabinet in a 9 condition with attachments she would



Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 02:47:46 GMT
Subject: Necchi attachments
From: ma@usa.pipeline.com (MA)

Hi to everyone, 
 
This weekend I found a box full of Necchi attachments.Has 7
feet-needles-empty plastic oil container-a dial of somekind-plenty of
bobbins-screwdriver-lint brush and a couple of other things.Box itself is
grey and looks kinda new.Don't know anything more about it.Anyone
interested in it can write me. 
 
Found a few SMs on my hunts this week.A real SM fest you might call it.6
new SMs and running out of hiding places. 
 
Found another Fanatic in NJ whos not online but should be on this digest
for sure.She has 38 SMs and a house full of toys and THE origional OVAL oil
can.Now I finally know what I'm looking for.Real cute.I saw my first model
24 in person also.I liked it. 
Nice and small.She had the most stunning black 301 in mint condition and
they are a very impressive looking SM.Manly if I can say so. 
 
Also saw a well kept blue Sew Handy, 201s,501s, and so many more.I thought
I had a few but she puts me to shame.All displayed very nicely thru out her
home among the picture quilts she designs and makes.I had a ball and bought
a 201,White Rotary and small Climax made by New Home.It looks like the
picture Charles has on his web site.Thread tension on the top of the arm
and very different. 
 
How are the White Rotary SMs dated?It has a serial num. but I can't
remember seeing anything on dating them in the past. 
 
Also picked up a SM that turns out to be a repainted model 15 with a DELUXE
made in Japan logo plate.Lemon yellow and very nice plastic carrying
case.All parts are Simanco so I figure for $5 why not!Runs great and case
is much smaller than all the older style ones.Not too bad to tote
around.But Yellow..............Hmmmm. 
 
Maggie 
-- 
 
Maggie in NY 
ma@pipeline.com



Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:48:46 +1000
From: brenda@ismacs.com.au (Brenda Dean)
Subject: Mr. Singer and other things

G'day to all FWF folks from Brenda in Australia. I'd like to say a big thank
you to all who sent birthday greetings to 'Cyperpops'. He had a wonderful
time at his surprise party and is still recovering.

I'm sure we'll all miss Grahams help whilst he's away on vacation. DH and I
are off on Sept. 5th. but in the meantime I'll help if I can. (I'm just the
apprentice aspiring to journeyman whilst Maggie &Graham are Guild Masters!).

Someone was asking about FW bobbin cases: There's a small supply here in
Australia for $50 (Aus) - $40 US. Rather expensive but maybe there aren't
too many around!

There have also been a few questions about Mr. Singer. Perhaps this "potted
biography" might enlighten and amuse you all.

**************************************************************************
Actor, inventor, super - salesman, lover and sewing machine guru.

Issac Merritt Singer was born in New York in 1811. His ambition was to be an
actor , but his parents were poor German immigrants with a large family and
no money to spare. Singer began his working life as an apprentice to a tool
and machine maker. He left this job to join a travelling theatre group,
which gave him the opportunity to try his hand at acting but failed to make
him rich. The group eventually went broke and a penniless Singer turned to
inventing as a means of earning a living. Whilst working with a tool
manufacturer in Virginia he came across a sewing machine in need of repair.
He studied the machine and considered it clumsy and unreliable. He knew he
could build a better machine himself and after only eleven days Singer
produced his first prototype.

Singer took out his first sewing machine patent in 1851. The Singer
Perpendicular Action Sewing Machine was offered for sale all over America.
Singer was a showman at heart and enjoyed demonstrating his machines at
fairs and circuses all around the country. Within two years he was selling
more machines than any other single manufacturer. This did not impress Elias
Howe who had taken  out the first sewing machine patent in 1846. Singer was
using a mechanism similar to the one used by Howe and Howe demanded payment
from Singer for infringement of his patent. A long legal battle followed and
the press of the day reported on Singer's theatrical performances in court,
but in the end Singer admitted defeat paying Howe $15,000 in settlement of
Royalties.

Over the next twenty years the number of SM manufactures grew from seven to
more than thirty and the sales of sewing machines from 5000 in 1854 to more
than half a million in 1874. (Singer selling more than 50% of these.) His
success wasn't simply due to a better product but because he offered only
one or two models at any one time and adopted a new approach to selling. He
used pretty girls to demonstrate his machines in luxuriously appointed
showrooms. He introduced payment by instalement, gave after sales service
and encouraged his customers to take advantage of generous trade in
allowances. (It's interesting to note that Singer destroyed many good sewing
machines used as trade ins to reduce the number of second- hand machines on
the market.)

Singer did leave some time for other persutes! By 1867 he had fathered 18
children by a variety of wives and mistresses and his conservative business
partner, Edward Clark, became concerened at the effect this immoral
lifestyle could have on the business. Clark presented Singer and his family
with a one way ticket to Europe to avoid any hint of scandle! The family
lived first of all in Paris, France then in Devon, England where Singer died
in 1875 at the age of 63. At the time of his death he had married five times
and fathered 22 children!

After his death the family continued to mingle in the best social circles.
Singer's son Paris had an affair with the famous dancer Isadora Duncan which
resulted in the birth of their son Patrick whilst Singer's widow, Isabella
is reputed to have been Barthold's model for the statue of Liberty.

The Singer company went from strength to strength and by 1891 ten million
Singer sewing machines had been made.......

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This information was taken from numerous sources but mainly from ISMACS News.

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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 22:25:06 -0600
From: MomofWeedy 
Subject: 'drop feed dog' machines

I would like to find a machine that has dropping feed dogs  and with the
power of my 301A, but without the slant needle.  I am using my 222K to
attach the Miracle Stitcher for a lot of couching over yarn, but the bed
size is too small to allow for free movement.  The 301 has a good bed size,
but I can't do the couching because the gizmo won't fit on the slant needle.

Does anyone know if there is a low shank machine on which the feed dogs will
drop?  201? 401? etc.    It doesn't have to be portable.  I would prefer a
straight-stitch machine, but I guess a simple zz would be OK.  You may
e-mail me privately, if you prefer, although others may be interested.

TIA

Kathy  in Calgary
reyden@cadvision.com 



Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 07:52:49 -0400
From: BSawyer631@aol.com
Subject: Post:  Another old handcrank

Had a good time looking around Galveston yesterday with DH.  Lots of stuff -
mostly overpriced.  But did find an old handcrank with a different feed than
my others.  This has a shuttle and bobbin, but the shuttle swings from the
left to the right of the needle, in a straight horizontal line across the
machine bed.  My others swing from front to back in an arc.  This is a
Frister and Rossman, a slightly smaller machine than my others, too.  The
case is a rectangular box with some inlaid work on top.  It is missing the
key. (I have been told there is a place not too far from here that has a lot
of keys, so I guess I will have to make a run over there.  I have 4 cases now
without keys.)
  If anyone has information on this machine, I'd love to hear it!  
  Barb in Texas



Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 08:58:11 -0400
From: SewJude@aol.com
Subject: WD- 40

I've been told NOT to use WD-40 on my sewing machines.  
It's a solvent, and while it may help in getting rusty things unstuck, if
left on it well contribute to the futher rusting of the metal.

BTW this information came from my Cousin Al the "old sewing machine guy"

There are many other things that you can soak your rusty parts in, just take
a trip to the auto store and ask for some advice.

Judy
in West Central Illinois, where school has started once again.



Date: Sun, 25 Aug 1996 21:32:47 -0700
From: The Halls 
Subject: Old Singer

Hi, I found a very old (I think) singer treadle, in deplorable 
condition.  Probably a one.  
	It is for sale near here for $15.  If any one is intrested I can 
pick it up for you.
	It has a wavey bed (like a full figure girl wearing a belt)
bullet shuttle, and the 2 singer wroght iron emblums.  When you 
open the machine, under it is a round plate with a singer plate
under the machine.  (this is in new cond?)
	The machine still has the singer gold? lettering but is 
chipping rusted finish.  She has a colored floral desingn that is 
beautiful in places, I havent seen this before.  The bobbin winder
 is High, and has a nice singer tag.  Shes in terrible shape as 
far as the finish, and of course is all rusted and locked, but If 
your in need of parts or wanted to selvege the singer round things 
on the legs, or needed a shuttle, it looks ok.
	Its so badly rusted I couldnt get a date from the faceplate, 
but the underneath has the round plate under the machine that I think
I have heard mentioned.  
	I absolutely refuse to bring this home, it would put me in 
duch with  DH, but if some one near wants to selvedge a machine for
parts let me know and i'll leave him a $5. deposit for you.
	I've never seen the odd shaped bed, all wavery or the 
colored flowers on her, they are very pretty, and it once was a 
true beauty.  I believe the finishe is rusted underneath the enamel,
but I suspect someone might want the base, or the black emblem under
her.
	Let me know if you want her and I'll leave the guy a few $
and give you directions.  Its so sad to see her in such shape.
*  She is I believe too far gone to restore, but the treadle is 
intact, and you may be able to selvedge a few parts.
	I give her a one, and have no intrest, or culpability,
but if you want the base, or just to see what once was, she
is in mid michigain, about 25 mile from Flint Mi, and 25 mi
from Lansing in Corunna Mi.
	Cheryl in mid Mich,



Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:50:03 -0400
From: JimAlmonte@aol.com
Subject: Recent Find/Request for Help

Hi--

   Well after finally getting through to Singer this morning, I found out
that what I thought was a 201 is actually a 101 made 12/19/21.  I'm going to
the library this morning to do some more reading in Sincere's history to
figure out what is different between the 101 and 201.  The gold work on this
machine is so simple compared to the other machines (127, 128,  and 66) that
I have seen from the 1920's, that I really thought this was from the 1930's.

Anyways, modified request--does anyone have a manual or anything that talks
about 101?  Of coures, I will pay copying and postage costs.

On other topics, this weekend my mom found an old Singer at a flea market for
$95.  She didn't get it but copied the serial number for me to see what I
could find out about it--Singer says it is a "Medium Machine" made Feb. 1873.
  Does anyone know anything about this machine--is it worth following up on? 

Thanks for any help

                                                                  Cyndi 


                                                                 (Janesville,
WI)



Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:50:18 -0400
From: Richard Hyman 
Subject: 1940 Featherweight

I sent this inquiry on Aug 15. Perhaps you didn't receive it.

I have a 1940 Featherweight.I am currently using it to sew silk.
When I sew crepe de chine there is a pucker in the stitch. On 
twill silk, there is a skip stitch which doesnt catch. My local
singer repair man told me that the new needles are shaped 
differently from the old needles, and that is why the stitch is
funny. Could this be true. Currently there is an original needle i
in the machine and the stitch still slips. He uses needles other th
than singer, I think organ is the name. Does anyone have any
information on what kind of needles to use; what can cause the 
slip stitch; and silk sewing tips. Any hapl appreciated. Please
reply att: Roberta at dadhy@erols.com
Thank you



Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 13:37:57 -0400
From: Idoquilts@aol.com
Subject: Finds of the weekend

Hi everybody!

Boy did I have a great weekend of sm hunting.  I went to the flea market and
found a white fw in excellent shape with a Jetsons style buttonholer for
$100.  The case had been wrapped up in grey duct tape.  When I got home I
carefully removed all of the tape and found out that one corner of the case
the dovetails had come apart.  I know a man in town who is going to repair it
for me.

On Sunday I was at loose ends as my husband was in a golf tournement so of
course I grabbed the children and headed for a different flea market.  There
was nothing there but on the way home I stopped by a few antique stores and
found a beautiful black fw in perfect condition for $375 ( I didn't buy it
because I already have two).  I asked the man if he had any other sm's and he
said "Just that old one over there that I got at an estate sale last week.)
 I went searching for it on the floor behind stuff and I couldn't believe it
but it was a 301a!!  No case or accessories but seemed to be in great shape,
just filthy.  He was asking $35 for it but he told me everything in the shop
was 20% off so I practically stole it for $28.

Now I'm hoping for the $28 fw!

I've cleaned up both of my new machines and they look fantastic!  I know its
only monday but I'm already looking forward to next weekends hunting.

Mary D. in hot and humid NC



Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 15:48:58 -0500
From: Rebecca Sunderman 
Subject: Mystery attachments ???

Hello, All !
   I have been digging in my sewing room again and I have come up  with
mysterey SM parts and accessories.  If anyone knows what these will fit, I
will put them with the appropriate machines and promise never to part them
again!
 Singer Zigzagger  #161102
 Singer Zigzagger  #160745
 Singer Zigzagger ( 2 each!) # 121706
 Rufflers $55703 and $$55705
Buttonholers :
     Singer #160506 ( complete with additional templates, in green plastic
snap closure box. SINGER on top)
Black Metal Box with sprial border design and R O T A R Y on top, lined
inside with dark purple velvet. Greist attachments in box - one is a tucker,
another is unknown and impossible to describe, on one side of box,on other
side of box is a holder for 6 attachments - there are  3 various sized
hemmers, and one  binder
    White brand complete with extra templates, in a brown leather or
leatherette case with three snap closures, and a separate, smaller case
inside which holds the extra templates ( I don't have a White machine, so if
any of you do and want this, let's talk!)
   Cardboard box with ROTARY ATTACHMENTS on top ( box is grreen marbled
color). Contents are mostly greist attachments:
       Edge stitcher, ruffler, tucker,a narrow hemmer and 4 graduated larger
hemmers,binder, another odd  looking piece which is quite similar to the
unknown in the ROTARY box, and a tie clasp lloking piece with 1/16" markings
on  it.
  I don't think I will be picking up any  more strange looking boxes with
sewing machines attachments in them that are unknown to me in the future.
 In other words, I won't pick up strangers any more, I promise!
Becky, in Arkansas
 



Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 15:18:05 -0700
From: kbelsky@esu2.esu2.k12.ne.us (Kathy Belsky)
Subject: new finds

Sunday I went to an auction.  They had 2 machines listed an Eldredge "B"
Treadle and a Morse Fotamatic in a cabinet.  They brought $17.50 and $3.00
each.  The treadle was in horrible shape and I wasn't interested in the
other one.  Then     saw a birdseye maple cabinet with a crack from front
to back.  It was a Singer 15-91.  The finish was crazed on the machine
where you grabbed it to pull is out.  Is there any way to fix that?   But
anyway, when I opened it up,(the crack was supposed to be there. It made a
little bit of an extension on the right side of the machine and a larger
extension for fabric on the left side.  I'd never seen one like that)
Inside were a few extar bobbins a foot pedal and a small oval oil can with
a lead cap.  There was a stool underneath and I remember someone mentioning
that there was stuff in there, I opened it up, while no one was looking and
inside was a 15-91 manual in great shape (a 10).  A box with attachments,
but only one screwdriver.  2 of the paper envelopes with needles and
various old papers with straignt pins.   There was also a Singer
Buttonholer templates box.  Box is torn  It has 4 templates  Part # 160506.
There wasn't a buttonholer for these to fit into.  Which one do I need to
be looking for?  Now for the best news I got it all for $10.  It was
towards the end of the sale with furniture.  I sat through the rest of the
sale, thinking maybe I'd see something else I'd like.  Well when I went in
the main auction room, there was another Singer in a base, but no top.  I
assume it should have a bentwood top.  It has green, red and gold designs
on it, from the pictures I think it might be a 66, but I didn't get Singer
called today.  The serial# starts with a G.  If it is a 66 are tops
available anywhere?   I paid $25 for this one.  I was afraid the other one
would sell for too much and I might not get it.  Then I ended up with 2.
Good thing my husband wasn't there for the whole sale.  He thinks I'm nuts.
Are you going to use those???  What do you need them for.  Thanks in
advance   Kathy

Ps  Just looked the templates in the box aren't the same as what's on the
outside.  I'm supopossed to have 3/8  1/2  5/8 keyhole  and 15/16.  I have
5/16    5/8   5/8 keyhole   and 1  1/16 keyhole.



From: mattlan@ix2.ix.netcom.com
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1996 16:58:13 +0000
Subject: To Jan regarding bobbin winding problem

Dear Jan,
My mother once had the same problem with the bobbin not turning, but 
the mechanism did.  She had bought a brand new package of bobbins for 
the FW.  Two of the bobbins wouldn't wind properly.  Finally she 
examined them closely and noticed the hole of the bobbin that goes on 
the winding mechanism was larger than it was supposed to be.  The 
difference is not noticeable at first glance as there is such a 
slight amount of difference in the size of the hole.  She held up another 
bobbin that DID fit to compare the size of the holes.  That's how she found 
out they were different.  The other two worked just fine on the FW.  Evidently 
those two were mixed in the wrong package.  She was stumped for a 
little while because like most people she just took it for granted 
that all of them would fit.  Hope that helps you.  Just remember, not 
everything is as it appears!
Kathleen



Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 23:04:39 GMT
Subject: hand crank and HELP PLEASE
From: ma@usa.pipeline.com (MA)

Hi everybody, 
 
I need some feedback about W+G sms and pricing if you would please.ANYone
w/info please speak up about a reasonable price for these w/no cabinet or
attachments as I have a decision to make and need some help.Saw one fully
loaded for $300 but don't think it a fair price.Know of others in a shop I
have to go see, but want to go there knowing what I'm up against.Supposedly
in 6-7 conditions.priced from $75 and up. 
 
I also picked up a crank for a hand crank if anybody is missing this
part.Figure someone out there might need it and I paid $20. Its yours for
$20 and shipping.Its black w/gold detailing in great shiney shape.Write me
and I'll explain more about attaching it if you need one.Will only fit a
large spoked wheel that was an origional crank.Wish I had one..............

-- 
TIA, Maggie 
 
Maggie in NY 
ma@pipeline.com



Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 20:50:35 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lydia Pratt 
Subject: Stuff


To Judy: You may have a Model 20 chain stitch machine.  I THINK one of the
members of my quilt group also has one of these.  If you can confirm the
model number, e-mail me privately and I'll see if she'll let me make a
copy of the manual for you.

To Chris et al.: The beeswax &orange stuff is from Howard Products, Inc. 
It's called Howard Orange Oil.  They also market a couple of other
cleaners/feeders/waxes.  I know this because a dealer at the Ohio State
Fair had the stuff, and I was able to get less than gallon sizes.  Their
order number is: 1-800-266-9545.

To all: The 401A is cleaned and installed in the table where it fits like
a glove.  I have so far wound a bobbin successfully, and should know some
time tomorrow whether or not it sews.

Last note:  I've recently done business with three of you for attachments.
 In all cases I sent them Priority Mail, and a day or so ago I found out
that the first one I mailed out took (sit down for this one) TWO WEEKS to
get to where it was going.  When we refer to it as "snail mail" apparently
we're not kidding.  If the two remaining individuals have not received
your stuff yet, wait a couple of more days and then let me know.  I'm not
sure what I can do, but I'll work on it.

Lydia in central Ohio, where the cicaedas (sp??) are getting in their last
licks before the start of school.


                                  _   _
Lydia Pratt                      |_|X|_|
Columbus, Ohio                   |X|*|X|
lspratt@freenet.columbus.oh.us   |_|X|_|



Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 19:55:29 -0700
From: peter@evansville.net
Subject: throat plate for model 99-31

Does anyone have a throat plate for a MODEL 99-31 or could direct me to 
a possible source for one?  Thanks.

Peter@evansville.net



Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:38:22 -0500
From: eagle@netusa1.net
Subject: singer 115

Does anyone have an origional manual for a singer 115 that they would like
to sell? 

Also would anyone have any info on this machine

thanks.....
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 07:57:51 PDT
Subject: Old Sewing Machines with No Home

Well Folks,

It has been a hectic couple of weeks with my very time consuming but 
 mildly successful garage sale.  I ridded my self of thousands of yards 
 of fabric and boxes of wool yarn.  I only sold about 1/3 but finally 
 found charitable organizations that would make good use of the rest.  
 I also gave away two sewing machines -- one a real worthless 
 Dressmaker that I bought from WalMart before finding my FW (two weeks 
 after I bought it).  I also gave away one of the 128's in the bentwood 
 case that I have - the electric one.  I kept the two hand crank 128's. 
  Meanwhile a friend of mine is moving out of the area and had two 
 Singers to get rid of.  He couldn't even give them away to the local 
 Volunteers of America as they were cabinet models and they didn't want 
 them!!  I was going to take both of them  (after finding out he was 
 putting them in the trash) and find homes but on second thought 
 decided I would only take one.  The other (sigh, sigh) is in the trash 
 at the front of the house.  It was an old (20's)  "15" in an oak 
 cabinet.  The machine still worked and  was in pretty good condition.  
 I do hope someone rescues it.  I feel downright guilty -- my old New 
 England genes.  I am taking the 15/91 in the cabinet.  It has the 
 original manual in excellent condition, the attachment box was so 
 little used it still has remnants of the paper tape that was used to 
 close the box that says Singer on it.  The cabinet it a really pretty 
 maple cabinet and the machine is in excellent condition.  This I truly 
 rescued from the curb.  What a sin -- especially when compared to  the 
 trash that they call "sm's" at the discount stores.   I know I can 
 find a home for it!!  I have not yet told my DH we are taking it for 
 "foster care".  He is still happy because I got rid of so much stuff 
 at the garage sale - you can see part of the basement floor and the 
 floor of my sewing room again.  He did comment that he thought this 
 was only 10% of my stash however!

Some of you old machine buffs must come to upstate NY so that someone 
 besides me is rescuing old machines.  If anyone is looking for homes 
 for newer models, the local chapter of Cerebral Palsy Association was 
 thrilled to get sewing machines, patterns  and fabric.  They use them 
 with their occupational therapy.  I assume any place that employs 
 occupational therapists would also be happy.  Locally, at least, 
 Goodwill, Volunteers and Salvation Army don't want  cabinet model 
 sewing machines!  

Beth


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Greetings, All!  Now that I have my 7th SM, I need your ideas on
how to explain my fascination with SMs to my DH.  He's threatening to
buy more computers!
     He's really pretty good about this collection, but I'd love to hear
how some of you got your husbands interested enough to actually (gasp!)
be on the lookout for SMs and ----- BUY them for you!! 
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From: Delia Weeder 
Subject: Singer Customer Relations
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I've been reading FWF for a couple of weeks now.  Thanks for the info 
on Singer Customer Relations 800#.  Never thought I'd find out the 
model or year of my Grandmother's old treadle machine--the one she 
used to make all my Mom's baby clothes and school dresses.   
Checked the serial number last night, and this morning I learned from 
Singer that she's a Model 66, "born" on August 11, 1925.   She's 
missing the decorative medal shield, but where it should have been is 
the number "22" imprinted in the metal of the head.  By the time I 
got her, she was in pretty rough shape...spent $300 to have the 
cabinet refinished and get it running again.  She's been moved from 
Alabama to Virginia to Florida, and now resides in Utah.  It's time 
to have her oiled and tuned to make her once again operable.  I 
learned to sew on her (as did my mother), and wouldn't take anything 
for her!    Now if I could just find a featherweight to take with me 
to quilt classes!  

Yesterday I came across an old portable sewing machine in a carrying 
case, and from a distance thought it might be a featherweight.  The 
price on the case said $35, machine included.  My heart almost 
stopped.  When I opened the case, it was a "National" Reversew, about 
the size and weight of a featherweight.  The dealer said she'd come 
down on the price since the "bullet bobbin" part was missing.  Don't 
know anything about National or bullet bobbins...can anyone educate 
me, please?

Graham, I love your true stories!  Keep them coming!

BTW, what is a "godzilla" finish?

Dee (in beautiful almost-Autumn weather in Cache Valley, Utah)


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Subject: rejected postings from FW list

Dear Sue,
I have sent the following post twice to the list - the first time it was
rejected saying:


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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 11:48:51 -0400
To: Featherweight Fanatics 
From: shelley@winthrop.slic.com (Shelley Fracalossi)
Subject: Items for sale


Anyway, my address is NOT shelley@winthrop.slic.com it is shelley@slic.com
and I don't know what is happening here.  I do subscribe to FW Fanatics
list at my correct address and have posted things in the past with no
problem, even last week, but this post keeps getting sent back to me.  If
you could post this for me I would greatly appreciate it - also if you can
shed any light on why I am getting rejected that would be most helpful too
thanks Shelley

Copy of rejected posting is as follows:

Cleaning out to have a yard sale and found the following to sell.

1)  Singer Automatic Zigzagger No.  160986 for Machines of class 301.
That's what the instruction manual says on it.  Very good shape in
cardboard box with "301" on cover of box.  Has three out of three cams with
it.  Manual dated copyright 1954 and 1955.  $30 including shipping.

2)  Singer Straight needle buttonholer, new condition, #489510 in  original
green bullet shaped case and original cardboard box with 4 original cams
and cover plate and screw.  Instruction manual dated 1960  says "is
intended for use on Singer Family Sewing Machines and makes straight and
keyhole buttonholes etc....  In box was original receipt for $10.55 the
person paid to buy the device.  $30 including postage.

3)  Green cardboard box of attachments including small red plastic handle
screw driver, Greist binder attachment, Greist ruffler, Greist hemmer,
Greist narrow hemmer,6 other odd greist feet unknown, 2 bobbins,  and a
couple of packages of Kenmore Rotary Class 25 needles.  $20 including
postage.

4)  2 red work pillow covers circa 1900.  Have red work embroidery of girl
sleeping in bed before an open window with the sun rising and setting and
birds and small angels looking on.  One says Good Morning, One says Good
Night.  (very nice shape with some very light soiling)  $40 for the pair
including postage.

5)  Old brass sewing bird mounted on wood base - condition very good to
excellent.  $50 inc postage.

6)  5 wood, 1 ceramic (with girl painted on it), and one blue and white
plastic sock darners.  $15 all including postage

7)  5 "Join - It Hemstitched Motifs for Crochet" No 1408 Colonial pattern.
These are pieces of yard goods with white on white embroidery on them
attached to papers each 18 inches long with 4 motifs on each sheet.  These
were cut apart by the seamstress and crocheted around to make doilies.
Very attractive.
$20 including postage

8)  Adirondack 9 patch camp quilt circa 1920 with browns, indigos, cadet
blue, tied with lovely paisley setting fabric and backing - twin size or
so.  Some slight wear and soiling $60 inc postage.

9)  Bag of  old miscellaneous sewing items including several paper sewing
needle books, some lace, a black leather sewing case with scissors,
needles, and thimble, a silk needle book etc.  $12 inc postage.

Email shelley@slic.com





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To Rebecca: The #160506 buttonholer fits the FW, as does the #161102 zig-zag
attachment.  I have used both of these many times on my old FW.

To Kathy: See above re: #160506.  The templates you have were the ones which
originally came with the buttonhole attachment.  The extra ones that came
separately are the ones you don't have. They are probably in the original green
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they can be used with buttonholers #160506, 160746, 489500 and 489510.

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Hi All...

For  Margaret  Frick...  Don't be too much in a hurry to dump the 1200-1 as it 
is  very closely related to the 201-2. I think the only discernable difference 
is  that  the  201  has  a  light and a power connector similar to the FW. And 
since  many here think the 201 is the best straight stitch machine Singer ever 
made, you may have gotten yourself quite the bargan!

For Rose... We have spool pins for your #201 - $1 + $0.50 SH...

For  Roberta...  Crepe  de  chine,  as  you  know,  is difficult to sew on any 
machine.  With its wrinkly finish, the feed mechanism has a difficult time. So 
I'd  first  suggest  adjusting the presser foot pressure (increase). Also, are 
you  remembering  to reset the tension on your bobbin case when you adjust the 
needle  tension?  Our  heirloom sewers here at the shop have had great success 
with Schmetz Microtex #60 needles for fine sewing.

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Sue,
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To Kathy:

I'm certainly no mechanic, but don't practically all machines have feed dogs 
that drop? (except the ones like the 24, the chain stitch).  And what is the 
Miracle Stitcher...it sounds something like the Singer Craft...could you 
'splain?  I endeavor to learn everything possible.

To Barb in Texas:

There's someone out there, I think Gene, who has keys.  I've gotten some 
from him and they work great...he probably still has them.

To Judy:

I sometimes VERY JUDICIOUSLY use WD-40.  I'm careful to be sure to clean it 
up totally after applying it, and have observed no rusting or penetration 
anywhere...but what I really like is Simple Green.  It's the best stuff and 
really does the job without seeming to harm anything it touches.   I buy it 
the gallon size concentrate at BJ's (like Sam's, etc.) for about 7-8$.  It 
lasts a long time  and I get a lot out of it.  It's money well spent, 
believe me.

To Cyndi:

Congratulations on your 101.  I've never even seen one, but have been 
looking....I have the 201, 301, 401..but no 101...some day...I'll keep my 
eyes open for a manual.  I can't remember whether or not there are things in 
one of those Singer Student Manuals, not a complete manual, but some 
information.  If I find something, I'll try to remember to bring it in to 
work next week and copy it for you.  At least it would be something til you 
locate a real manual.

To Roberta:

About the silk...a really sharp needle would probably be a prerequisite. 
 Can you put stabilizer on the back of the material?  It seems like it would 
sew better and easier...there are so many types of stabilizer you should be 
able to find one that would be compatible with silk.

To MaryD:

Wow!  $28!  What a find!  You can rest on your laurels, now...congrats.

To Lydia:

I too, recently acquired a 401 and getting ready to give her a go....I had 
to replace the needle plate and am now trying to make sure the needle lines 
up right...it seems to be hitting the plate.  I wonder if that's why the 
original plate was broken--the whole place where the zig zag hole was broken 
away...it's been oiled and dusted and I'm raring to go...the 401 is supposed 
to be such a dynamo I can hardly wait....

To Millie:

It took me awhile to find my Singer Sewing Book with the cover (I have 2 
without)...and YES!  it IS a 301, I concluded.  How eagle Eyed of you to 
discern that....!  WHat a Hunter!

To Maggie:

Where in New Jersey does this Fanatic with 38 machines live....I'm deeply 
curious...between her SM exhibits and quilts...........since I also live in 
New Jeresy...also I used to have a Deluxe many moons ago which was stolen, 
but not the manual...so if any one is interested I'll let you know what the 
model of the manual I have is...I have a couple of weird manuals without the 
machines..I have an old Necchi and something else...
To Graham &Bobbie, re True Story #28:

Since  the Blame me for your Adventure with Pancho is mine, let me first 
inquire what this Unique &Wonderful Transport with Pancho, et al cost you? 
 I'm curious.  The reason being is that my DH has a Limo service and goes to 
all the airports, etc.  So I know what a ride should cost.  The last time I 
had occasion to hire one of these off the street cabbies was such a total 
nightmare (that's a horror story by itself - we were lucky to survive the 
ride!) that I resolved to never again do it.  Either a person known to me 
such as a relative picks me up or I have a limo service.  You were very 
lucky with your odd serivce that nothing more happened than a Strange Ride 
(Grateful Dead?).  Some have not been so lucky.  So since I have to bear the 
Blame for this ride, I would recommend in the future not to do it again...i 
just hope you paid very little for it...but often what seems to be a bargain 
in the long run becomes very expensive....I know of a Japanese person from 
our company who somehow managed to hire a cab to take him to JFK and ended 
up paying over $600!!! He was victimized, that's for sure.  That's why it's 
important to make people realize that there are charlatans out there and be 
careful!  PS:  I wonder what Mrs. P's baby was?  I believe from hearing from 
others who travel around the world that it can be extremely risky to not be 
careful about your transportation....

To OfficeMom:

I too got tired of looking for the elusive 301, having never even set 
eyeballs on one.  So I called up Singer dealers.  The 3rd one I called had 
one, and I ran over and got the little tan beauty.  It was a fair price, 
$130.....and mechanically superb.  No case, no attachments, no manual, but a 
whiz of a machine.  Then I was lucky enough to get a black one from a fellow 
FW (Veronica), also a real beauty.  I haven't seen one since, tho.  I know 
there out there.  That's what half of the fun is tho', looking for them..

A real funny thing about DH's:

I showed mine the Singer Craft I bought on Friday for 10 cents....he asked 
me if I knew how to use it, and I said no.  I wanted to, tho.  He said it 
was a waste of money (!!!!!) to buy it if I didn't know how to use it.  Then 
I recalled all the fancy electronic boat equipment he bought and never 
installed or used or even took out to the boxes.....that cost 
$thousands...and all the boats....imagine, he was complaining about buying a 
"thing"for a dime and not using it....it scares me to think of him 
discovering all the SMs around the house.....he believes you should get rid 
of a book after reading it....Yuk...talk about feeling 
vulnerable....imagine...I remember reading that one "of us" is reported to 
have?  was it 38 or did I remember wrong?  I'm no where near 
that....yet....when I have to start sorting out which ones I want to keep 
and sell, it will probably drive me mad from despair so then I won't have to 
worry about it in the mad house....in my delusion, I'll probably believe I 
have them all...and be happy....could one be buried with dozens of SMs? 
 Seems a bit bizarre, doesn't it?  But, what a way to go...make it like a 
Viking Funeral...pile them all up and be put on top and set a match to the 
whole thing?

Time to get the desk cleaned up....I'll be out of the office til next 
Tuesday, so if anyone wants me, get me at McLehr@AOL.com...have a wonderful 
holiday for those of you who celebrate...I'll also be moving into another 
digit on the age part...every year getting older (better?)...reflectively, 
Mary in Beautiful Gorgeous New Jersey where the sky is blue and the weather 
couldn't be nicer...




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In message , Featherweight Fanatics
 writes
>
>Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 07:52:49 -0400
>From: BSawyer631@aol.com
>Subject: Post:  Another old handcrank
>
>Had a good time looking around Galveston yesterday with DH.  Lots of stuff -
>mostly overpriced.  But did find an old handcrank with a different feed than
>my others.  This has a shuttle and bobbin, but the shuttle swings from the
>left to the right of the needle, in a straight horizontal line across the
>machine bed.  My others swing from front to back in an arc.  This is a
>Frister and Rossman, a slightly smaller machine than my others, too.  The
>case is a rectangular box with some inlaid work on top.  It is missing the
>key. (I have been told there is a place not too far from here that has a lot
>of keys, so I guess I will have to make a run over there.  I have 4 cases now
>without keys.)
>  If anyone has information on this machine, I'd love to hear it!  
>  Barb in Texas
>

Barb

This sounds suspiciously similar to the one my little lad bought at the
fleamarket ten days ago.  A guy called Graham, who appears to be
something of a regular on here :) but is currently on holiday has
promised me some info when he gets back in Sept.  I've given Pete's a
good clean up (required mallet and brass drift to free the stitch length
regulator) and it runs sweet as a nut.  It is _very_ similar in
appearance to one photographed in a book which is dated 1898 - 1901 ish.
I got a couple of spare bobbins for it OK but am having terrible trouble
locating spare needles.  BTW his was a tenner (plus a cab fare back from
town) - how much was yours, if you don't mind me asking?

Anthea

>
>
>Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 08:58:11 -0400
>From: SewJude@aol.com
>Subject: WD- 40
>
>I've been told NOT to use WD-40 on my sewing machines.  
>It's a solvent, and while it may help in getting rusty things unstuck, if
>left on it well contribute to the futher rusting of the metal.

Oh dear.  Funny, I've never heard that one before.  WD40 is a free-
releasing agent which also dispells water.  I've used it along with
Hoppes No 9 on blackpowder pistols for years with no problems.  On the
other hand, sewing machine oil is a little heavy for trigger mechanisms
compared with the real thing, but answers in an emergency.

>
>BTW this information came from my Cousin Al the "old sewing machine guy"
>
>There are many other things that you can soak your rusty parts in,

That's fine provided they can be detached.  How does Al suggest soaking
the entire machine head? :)
> just take
>a trip to the auto store and ask for some advice.

That's where I buy my WD40.  And brake fluid for cleaning model
locomotives....

Please don't take this the wrong way, Judy - I really am intrigued as to
where Al gets his information.  If he's seen it happening I'll take his
word for it.

Anthea
>
>
>Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 10:50:18 -0400
>From: Richard Hyman 
>Subject: 1940 Featherweight
>
>I sent this inquiry on Aug 15. Perhaps you didn't receive it.
>
>I have a 1940 Featherweight.I am currently using it to sew silk.
>When I sew crepe de chine there is a pucker in the stitch. On 
>twill silk, there is a skip stitch which doesnt catch. My local
>singer repair man told me that the new needles are shaped 
>differently from the old needles, and that is why the stitch is
>funny. Could this be true. Currently there is an original needle i
>in the machine and the stitch still slips. He uses needles other th
>than singer, I think organ is the name. Does anyone have any
>information on what kind of needles to use; what can cause the 
>slip stitch; and silk sewing tips. Any hapl appreciated. Please
>reply att: Roberta at dadhy@erols.com
>Thank you
>

Roberta

The problems you describe could be caused by using a damaged or too-
large needle, or thread which is too thick.  The puckering could come
from too long a stitch, too tight a tension or the foot pressure being
too heavy or too light.  The skipped stitch could come from too light a
pressure.

Given the combination things are happening in, I'd be inclined to change
the needle and find a light enough thread.  I'd then try adjusting the
foot pressure, followed by tweeking the stitch length  and needle
tension.  You might need some tissue paper between the feed dog and the
fabric for the fabric to feed evenly (see skipped stitches).

Anthea



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No, it isn't mine, but I'm green with envy!!

I have a friend who just inherited one from her grandmother.  It is complete
with attachments and manual, walnut or walnut finished treadle (two drawers
on each side)  In good condition, but worn.

she would like to know anything about this machine!  i'm not familiar with
the model number.

I gave her the singer phone, and it's birthday is 1914.

respond to me, please, as she is moving this week and is between email (as
well as other ) addresses...

Sherrie Groman
Columbus Mississippi where it's really thundering right now!

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Subject: 222k dating

Sarah Brown wrote:I'm interested in the caption for the 222k in the ISMACS
manual. It says that the 222k was manufactured from 1955 to 1964. I find this
interesting as my 222k's serial number is EJ268111 which I understand refers
to 
1953/54. 

Singer is not willing to just freely give out information, but they will give
"birthdates" of machines when asked. So the dates stated are just the
machines that we know of, most of which the owners have completed the survey
for on Sue's FW page. Yes, your serial number would indicate a late 1953 or
early 1954 date. If someone hasn't already helped you with your exact date, I
can request it from Singer when I send them my monthly batch, if you will
just fill out the survey.  

Thanks for helping us to learn more about our machines!

Happy Featheweigting,
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Greetings!
Just a quick note to let all the "Fanatics" know that Graham and Maggie 
made it to Texas last night and visited Frank Smith and his Sewing 
Machine Museum this morning. I had the pleasure of spending a short time 
with them. After all the warnings to them about Texas weather in August, 
it was in the mid 70s and lightly raining when they arrived at the 
Museum. Frank had arranged for a reporter from the Fort Worth 
Star-Telegram newspaper to be at the Museum to meet Graham and Maggie and 
get some pictures of them touring the Museum and also some information on 
ISMACS. A good time was had by all.
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To Kathy:  The 401 is definitely also a slant needle machine like the 301,
so cross it off of your list.  From what others have said, a 201 is a very
hearty machine, but I'm not sure the feed dogs drop.

To Judy:  Several folks have posted previously about the difference
between WD-40 ( a solvent) and the use of a good sewing machine oil.

Lydia in cooling off central Ohio.

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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 23:16:14 -0600
From: MomofWeedy 
Subject: Re: dropping FD's

Thanks to all who sent info to me re low shank/dropping FD machines.  Here
is a summary for those who may also be interested.  

Several people have recommended both the 201 and the 15-91.  I seems that
they are both gear-driven machines.  The 201 is on my wish list anyway and I
phoned a man tonight who has 3 or 4 for sale.  

Tracy on Bowen Island has also recommended a 191J, but I can't find this
machine in any books.  I guess I will have to wait until Friday when we are
planning to meet south of Vancouver and maybe do a little trading.

Thanks to all this info and the wonderful list, I have discovered that I had
a machine right under my nose -- a 15K88 -- but it is a treadle (1949).  I
guess I could add a motor to it and make it an optional treadle which would
save room and $$.

How does one tell a 15-91 from another model 15 version?  I saw several
machines today that looked to be model 15's.  I went on a search at noon
today because I had a feeling that there was a FW on my route -- and I was
correct, but he was asking $600 (Cdn) for an clean EH and nice box, but
absolutely nothing more.  He said it was worth $1000!  He soon got an earful
from me, but it didn't matter.  He was going to wait for someone to pay $600.

Kathy in Calgary
reyden@cadvision.com 



From: sharon@cvo.oneworld.com
Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 22:50:23 +0000
Subject: 101 and 185j

1.  I saw a 101 at Goodwill, and I can't decide whether to buy it.  
The gold on the front of the bed is completely worn off, and the 
"Singer" on top of the head is pretty worn.  It's in a blonde cabinet 
with a tilt drawer in the middle.  The cabinet needs refinishing 
somewhat.  It needs a new power cord, and some of the wires have 
come loose from the power supply (they seem to just need to be 
put back in place).  It does have the foot controller that fits in the 
inside of the machine.  The wheel does turn.

They're asking $40.  Am I crazy to consider this?  Is the 101 a good 
enough machine to justify taking a risk of the motor being bad?  I 
keep thinking about it, but I don't know if it's worth the money and 
DH annoyance factor.

2.  I am helping a local charity's thrift store with a couple of 
machines to see if they work.  One is a 185j.  It's green and in a 
two-tone green case.  The feed dog doesn't do a very good job of 
feeding the fabric unless I increase the bobbin pressure a bit.  Even 
then, the feeding is so-so.  Does the machine need more adjusting, or 
is this a characteristic of this machine?

Also, it has two speeds - fast and faster.  The foot controller is 
green and the pedal is shaped like a backwards "L".  Is this the 
original?  Do the wires in the controller just need to be adjusted 
a bit?

It doesn't seem to want to leave its case.  Does this model come 
out of the case?

In case the volunteers at the thrift store ask my opinion, what is a 
good price on one of these machines?

Hope I'm not bending anyone's ear for too long.  I will call Singer 
for a copy of the manual, so maybe that will help.

Sharon Reese



Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 01:54:31 -0700
From: Bobbie 
Subject: Buttonholers &misc. attachments

Hiya All...I have a 'bunch' of buttonholers and various attachments for 
Singers.

Buttonholers are all in boxes, with many templates, and manuals, from 1954
forwrd  
and several of the 'older' type, black with white knob with red 'S' on the 
knob.
THEY ARE ALL $9 + postage

I have attachments for many of the Singers....i.e.,  Touch N Sew Model 600,
$9.00 with 
box.

I have a 'SLANT NEEDLE', Singer Walking foot for $15 + postage 

I have a Singer Professional Buttonholer for slant needle $10 + postage (in
box with manual)

There are just too many to list.  I'm keeping them for one more week, and
then they're GONE!
I'm certainly running out of room for anymore of these things.

Anyone interested, email me and help me make room around here (smile)

bobbie 



From: Greta_Hambleton@tvo.org (Greta Hambleton)
Subject: Elna Manual
Date: 28 Aug 1996 12:42:19 GMT

For Joy in IN,
   Have Elna Supermatic that I use ALL the time.  Have been an
Elna fan for decades !  They were way before their time.  I'll copy
my manual if you do not get any response to your request.
   Greta



Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 10:44:35 -0400
From: fs708@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Debra  Roby)
Subject: drawing of knee lever?

Steve (DH) and I were talking last night; I was telling him about the
likely impossibility of finding a replacement for the missing knee lever
on my 192? Singer bentwood case.  He actually agreed with me that the item
shouldn't be too hard to get someone to manufacture (in small quantities)
if we could get a technical drawing of the lever.

Does anyone own such a drawing? Or can someone make one up?  

I understand that there are a couple of different fitting at the box?  But,
I have a box, and can let the guys working up the problem see this and
figure out the right way to make it (our first set of candidates completely
rebuilt the chipping chute on my chipper/shredder so it looks like
new...they did it for fun one day...).  If it works out, and I can get the
details on different fittings...we may be in luck.

Please do not E-mail me if you are interested in one of these new knee
levers.  I am not being mean--I am going to be switching to a "real"
Internet provider in the next few weeks, and don't want to lose the
information.

If indeed we can make some of these replacement knee levers, I will post
requesting that people order one.  I will give specifics at that time.

Now, however, if you can supply the technical drawing, please E-mail me,
and I will send you me snail-mail address so that you can pop the drawing
in the mail to me.


If I can get this machine working in the bentwood case, I can give up on my
search for a treadle table for this machine...this will guarentee that I
find 6 or 7.  :D

Ofcourse, replacing the knee lever isn't the only problem....I will have to
re-wire the machine (the wiring is a hazard).  and the last time I fixed
the wiring on an appliance, it made great coffee...but burned the counter
doing so....

Guess it's good that I know a couple guys on the volunteer fire department 
in my town..

Sorry for rambling so long.


--
deb roby				fs708@cleveland.freenet.edu					




From: EHZG23B@prodigy.com (MRS LISA DUGGAN)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:03:58, -0500
Date: 28 Aug 96
Subject: Embroidered FW Shirts

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Please allow 2-4 weeks for delivery! Thanks in advance! Lisa! (AKA Yo-Yo
)



Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 12:17:02 -0700
From: Bobbie 
Subject: WD-40

>
>I've been told NOT to use WD-40 on my sewing machines.  
>It's a solvent, and while it may help in getting rusty things unstuck, if
>left on it well contribute to the futher rusting of the metal.
>
        Judy, you've only been told half the story.  If you use WD-40 on 
ANYTHNG
and then do not relubricate, or protect, YES the rust will continue,
however, WD-40
DOES NOT CAUSE rust!  Not relubricating, or failing to use a protector will
result
in a recurrence of the rust.   WD-40 simply 'strips', not 'cause' rusting.

        WD-40 removes and strips, it does not cause rusting.

>BTW this information came from my Cousin Al the "old sewing machine guy"
>
>There are many other things that you can soak your rusty parts in, just take
>a trip to the auto store and ask for some advice.

        Well, I take exception with this statement, because the 'modern'
chemicals
        offered at the automotive store, will do major damage to the gold and 
        decorations on the OLD machines.  I say this from experience (sadly).
        This is not a flame reply, just a reply to help everyone 'understand'

Bobbie




Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:03:07 -0500 (CDT)
From: Steve or Terri Carl 
Subject: Funerals and WD-40


Mary Lehrhoff said:

> ...I remember reading that one "of us" is reported to have?  was
> it 38 or did I remember wrong?  I'm no where near that....yet....when I
> have to start sorting out which ones I want to keep and sell, it will
> probably drive me mad from despair so then I won't have to worry about
> it in the mad house....in my delusion, I'll probably believe I have them
> all...and be happy....could one be buried with dozens of SMs? 
> Seems a bit bizarre, doesn't it?  But, what a way to go...make it like a
> Viking Funeral...pile them all up and be put on top and set a match to
> the whole thing?

Mine would be more of a Singer funeral, with some other kinds of machines
thrown in...  But I'm sure there are those who collect Viking machines,
too...  8-D

Judy said:

> I've been told NOT to use WD-40 on my sewing machines.  
> It's a solvent, and while it may help in getting rusty things unstuck,
> if left on it well contribute to the futher rusting of the metal.

> BTW this information came from my Cousin Al the "old sewing machine guy"

> There are many other things that you can soak your rusty parts in, just
> take a trip to the auto store and ask for some advice.

It's true that you shouldn't use WD-40 on your machines *instead of oil*. 
But what you find at the auto parts store to soak rusty parts in has at
least as much solvent (probably more) and if you got some parts cleaners
on the outside of the machine, they might even dissolve some of the
lacquer.  WD-40 has some oil in it (along with the solvent) so one might
be tempted to use it as oil, but I always oil my machines (with machine
oil) after I clean them up.  (I use Liquid Wrench instead of WD-40 -- it's
about the same, but it's also got a little bit of Teflon in it, so it
might cut down on friction inside the machine some.)  I've never had any
trouble with a machine I used WD-40 or Liquid Wrench on -- in fact, I've
even gotten more than one real junker that was frozen solid with rust
stitching like a champ again.  As long as you don't substitute cleaning
the machine with WD-40 for oiling the machine, I dont' see a problem.

Now the sewing machines are coming to me!  The other day, an antique
dealer referred a lady to me who was selling two old machines -- one a 66,
head only, with a working Singer motor &light.  (I've got a portable base
that's made just for it!)  The other was a Dressmaker Special, a Singer
model 15 lookalike.  The gold floral design is pretty -- yellow and gold
flowers, with a really pretty face plate, but the decals on the arm that
say "Dressmaker Special" look pasted on.  It's a portable -- the plate on
the motor is half broken off, so that doesn't give me a clue, but it looks
as if it were made in the US.  There are letters stamped into the base,
and it has a serial number plate that looks identical to Singer's.  (The
serial number is even similar -- starts with a "Y"!)  But it doesn't say
Singer anywhere on it.  It's got to be a clone.  Does anyone know anything
about this machine? 

Have a happy Labor Day weekend!

Terri (in Houston, where we're in the middle of monsoon season)


Steve and Terri Carl
terric@neosoft.com



Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 16:07:53 -0400
From: duck@clark.net (Bob Campbell)
Subject: For Sale-Toy Singer Centennial

Hi:

I have for sale a black Singer Toy Sewing Machine, Model 20-10. This a
Centennial Model manufactured in 1951 and has the Special Anniversary Singer
Emblem on the front.  I would rate the machine a strong 9 and comes in a
2-toned tan carrying case along with a mannikin doll, 2 Special Butterick
Doll Patterns, instruction book, clamp, childs thimble, needles and doll
stand (the scissors are missing).  This machine resembles those that are
pictured in Glenda Thomas' book on pages 164-165, plates 364 and 366.  I
would rate the case a solid 8 ( it's slightly yellowed).  The case is tan
like the one on plate 364 but the machine is a black centennial like plate
366.  I hate to use the term but this one is really "cute" and nearly 100%
complete in great shape.  I will consider offers over $325 (plus shipping).
In this condition this package is as difficult to find as the red and blue
varieties.

Thanks for listening
Bob Campbell
duck@clark.net



Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 14:28:35 +0000
From: Delia Weeder 
Subject: National Reversew

Disregard my questions regarding the National Reversew portable I 
found in a local junk store--on second look, it's much bigger than a 
FW, and weighed 22 pounds.  Has two boxes of attachments with it, but 
again, bullet shuttle mechanism is missing.  If anyone's interested, 
the price is down to $25.

While in the store, I spotted an old machine cabinet being used as a 
di splay for a lamp and some other objects.  Peeked underneath to 
see a little black beauty with SINGER in brilliant gold letters.  
Opened it to discover a 99K; got  the serial # and called Singer for 
the BD:  3/26/57.  It's AT LEAST an 8.5...look's like it's barely 
been used, but know it must have been for the belt was literally worn 
through in places.  Ordered the new belt and the 99K manual this 
morning, and should have her up  and running again in no time.  While 
it's not a FW, it was VERY affordable,   



Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:33:48 -0700
From: Jean Simonski 
Subject: Model 99

Hello, Featherweighters,  I'm on vacation (visiting my family).  Today I 
bought a little green Singer for $15.99.  I have to call Singer to 
get the birth date.  It came with attachments but no book.  I also bought 
a 99 with a bentwood case.  It is in good condition, a few scratches on 
the machine head, gold in good condition but no key.                     
                                                                         
 The man I bought the 99 from has 3 Featherweights for sale.  If anyone 
is interested, please contact him directly.  The usual disclaimers apply, 
 I have no financial interest.  He is the serviceman my mother has used 
for years and is honest and his prices are fair. All of these machines 
have been serviced.                                                      
                                                                         
                       Carl's Sew-Vac Center                             
                       1860 Lockbourne Rd.                               
                       Columbus, OH  43207                               
                       1-614-444-2156                                    
                                                                         
  He said it's okay to post this and he can have the machines shipped if 
anyone is interested.                                                    
                                                                         
      AL947223 no case, no book or attachments $270

      AK109540 some attachments, case with side tray, Singer replacement 
               manual $350

      AH813882 attachments, oil can, original manual, case with lift out
               tray $375                 

Shipping is whatever it costs.  Sorry this is so garbled.  

So far it's been a good vacation and not done yet.  My DH has been very 
patient :-)

Happy Featherweighting!  Janet Yamaguchi  who is using 
her DBIL's email.



Date: Wed, 28 Aug 96 17:48:40 EDT
From: Gene Baker 
Subject: Keys

We have keys for the "Bentwood" and "Featherweight" Cases.  E-mail for
particulars.

--
Gene Baker
You can find us on the World Wide Web at:
http://www.esinet.net/cabg/real_estate/bakerinc.html



From: TSGB45B@prodigy.com (MRS CATHY A SANDHOEFNER)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 17:05:58, -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/25/96

Just can't get that little Spartan off my mind.  Is there a model # for it?
And anyone who has one...do they sew nicely?
  ...c



Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 19:28:19 -0500
From: Diane and James Betz 
Subject: Getting new decals 

My DH found an old New Home at a garage sale for 15 bucks and decided to
strip it since it was really worn.  It was probably made around the turn of
the century
near as the people in Beloit, WI can figure.  He wants to re-decal it.  Is
there anywhere you have heard of that would be able to supply us with any
sort of new 
decals?  He plans on stripping the whole thing since there is no antique
value to it.The schuttle is in good cond with the bobbin intact.  Also, can
we still get "The Book" from Bobbie? Would there be anything about New Home
machines in there?
TIA--- Diane:-)



Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 23:22:05 -0400
From: Larry Doyle 
Subject: 201 for sale

 Hello everyone,I have a 201 from 1950 in perfect condition a 9+ barley
used,a real beauty $250.00
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Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 02:43:41 -2250
From: "Cheryl M. Blachuta" 
Subject: Adlers etc.

Hi folks!  While perusing my local classifieds, I saw an ad for a 
Domestic sewing machine, which, since it didn't state an age, was worth 
a call.  Once I started talking to the owner, I decided it was new 
enough to pass on, but I did mention to the guy that I was a collector 
of old machines.  At that he said, "Well, then you may be more 
interested in another machine I have!  An Adler treadle!"  I thought the 
machine was worth the trip, and it has joined the other machines I own.  

I was really fascinated by this machine: it's an Adler 152, looks to be 
1940's or 1950's and in immaculate shape--there was next to no lint in 
the bobbin compartment.  The treadle mechanism is a very simple one, no 
elaborate cast iron, just a light brown-painted flywheel and a thin 
(sheet metal?) footpedal about 12" by 12".  The machine is a 
straight-stitch with drop feed-dogs labelled with the German equivalents 
of "Sew/Darn": "Nahen/Stopfen" (missing an umlaut or two).  It's a 
pretty light green, and my mind was totally blown when I saw the 
integrated lightswitch, lightbulb, and plug socket for what is 
otherwise, unquestionably a non-electric machine.  There is no motor (I 
looked hard, too) and not even any mounting brackets for a 
once-upon-a-time motor.  It didn't come with any attachments or manual, 
although the seller generously threw in a box of Greist attachments that 
didn't fit any machine he owned.  For $32, I was happy .

Anyone with a 152 manual?  :-)

Also, does anyone have an Elna Supermatic service manual I could have a 
copy of?  My Elna is doing well, but I think it may do better with a few 
tweaks to the motor, like cleaning the brushes, and I don't know how, or 
even how to remove the motor.  Sincere seems to only discuss timing 
matters with regard to the Elna.

And I'm still in search of the elusive $32 FW...

Cheryl in north metro Detroit
...and I finally have my own email address, too! :-)



From: sharon@cvo.oneworld.com
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 20:03:05 +0000
Subject: Need help threading 15 look alike

I'm helping a charity's thrift store by testing a couple of machines 
for them.  Right now, I'm working on a 15 look alike.  It's electric 
and was made in Japan by Precision, but the name across the head 
is Brother.

I am having some trouble figuring out how to thread the machine and 
where to place the wire spring part of the tension that the thread 
bumps up against.  (I hope it's understandable what I'm talking 
about.)  I would appreciate it if someone would describe what to do 
or mail/fax a copy of the page in their manual that shows threading 
and the tension mechanism.

I do know already that the tension mechanism's thumb nut is missing 
its pin.  It will still increase/decrease pressure, but the indicator 
doesn't turn.  Is it hard to find new thumb nuts?

Finally, has anyone heard of Precision/Brother?  There is no manual; 
is there any possibility of the future purchaser finding one?

Sharon



Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:06:27 GMT
Subject: New Home
From: ma@usa.pipeline.com (MA)
 
Hi Folks, 
 
I'll start by saying thank you to all who helped out with the W+G
questions.Helped me to keep my head on straight.I don't want to jump on the
first one I see and will be patient. 
 
          I'm so excited !!Answered an ad in paper yesterday and went to
see an old machine.Turns out to be a New Home in a bentwood case in mint
condition.Didn't see much sewing as there is NO wear anywhere and still
shiney like new.Looks like someone bought it and never used it.Have to wait
for Graham to return to find out age, but Bobbi kindly gave me an
approximate one of 1885-1890. 
 
Has needles w/greyhound mark on them and origional manual.No date on the
manual though.A bed of roses is smack in the middle of the bed and its got
at so many decorations on it.Its my first SM having blues and green
decorations and is quite beautiful.The case has no scratches and I'm happy
to say but for age alone its got to be a 9. 
 All intact and almost new I feel lucky to have found it. 
 
happy hunting to you all!Have a great weekend. 
-- 
 
Maggie in NY 
ma@pipeline.com



Date: 26 Aug 96 11:51:45 EDT
From: Chris Vagtborg <71155.1072@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: post

Hi All...

For   Judy:  What  you  describe  is  a  Singer  Toy  (probably  a  model  50) 
manufactured  in  the  mid-fifties. You are correct in that it's a chainstitch 
machine,  the  lever  is a stitch regulator, and you do thread it in the order 
indicated  1  - 6. Three's a little tricky as you pass the thread down through 
the  oval  hole, then between the metal strips and up across the tension disks 
('4').  The  needle  threads from left to right. Your W&G needles should work, 
but  make  sure  it's  all  the  way in the needle holder. Flat edge of needle 
shank  to  the  right.  The  looper  (the 'two rotating hooks' as you describe 
them)  is  adjustable  in/out.  The  short  sharp part of the hook should just 
clear  the  needle  (and  pick up the thread loop). When set up properly, this 
little  machine  sews a wonderful chainstitch. I will try to get you a copy of 
the  manual,  but  I  sold  it  with  the  machine.  BTW, if it's in excellent 
condition,  it's worth at least $100... PS: we've got needles for your W&G and 
the toy for $1.

For Rita: Flaking Paint is 'nigh unto impossible to restore...

Bye for now, Chris...



Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 12:55:59 -0400
From: Mark &Katy 
Subject: Model 301 and Misc. Attachments for sale

Hi Fellow Fanatics,

I decided to sell one of my 301s. It is the black version with the short bed 
extension, it DOES have the bobbin case, and I can provide a copy of the 
manual but it does not have attachments or a case. I would rate this machine 
as an 8. It is a good strong sewer and a great portable since it only weighs 
in at 16 pounds. It does have an odd scratch here and there but nothing 
major. This is a pretty machine. I am asking $140 plus shipping. 

I also have the following for sale: 

1.  Two Singer Buttonhole attachments in one box, # 121795, photocopy of
manual, one
feed cover plate. Older style that does not use cams. Box  is pretty worn. 
$15

2. Complete set of FW attachments in excellent condition, missing box. 
Includes: ruffler, cloth guide,
multislotted binder, adjustable hemmer, zipper foot, edge stitcher, foot
hemmer. $30

3. Singer Craftguide. Box is worn, photocopy of instructions, razor blade for 
cutting fringe is missing. $14

4. Metal Singer foot pedal from a 99. May work for other models as well, the 
guts look just like those in the black plastic type foot pedal. This same 
style was also used on the Spartans.  Works fine. $9

5. Three wooden Boye needle cases, no needles. All say 16  30-80 on the 
endcap. $5 for all. 

Prices do not include shipping. E-mail if interested. Thanks much and have a
great day,



Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:28:59 -0500
From: Tim and Sherrie 
Subject: Spartans

Cathy,

The Spartan's model number is 192(K)  mine is the 192K, there may be non-K
ones, I don't know!  

mine came without a base, and is now residing in a cabinet.  it does sew,
and my Mother swears by them, she sewed on a Spartan for years!  mine isn't
happy, the motor needs taking apart and I haven't gotten brave enough to do
it yet.

Sherrie Groman

gromant@ebicom.net

Our Home page =http://www.ebicom.net/~gromant

Quilt Page=http://www.ebicom.net/~gromant/tgquilt.htm



Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 20:35:08 GMT
Subject: manual
From: ma@usa.pipeline.com (MA)

 
To     Betty W, 
 
              A big thanks Betty for the copy of the manual for the model
15.I do appreciate your effort. 
 
I'm patiently (yea right) awaiting the arrival of my 2 new Elna SMs.Got the
manuals in the mail today and really am looking forward to looking them
over.Branching out from the singers I've been a bit cautious.Seeing there
are a few of you w/experience around the Elnas out there has made me a bit
more daring in trying them out.If you'd like to write me concerning their
worthiness please do, as I need all the help I can get. 
 
TIA, 
Maggie 
 
Maggie in NY 
ma@pipeline.com



Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:53:46 GMT
Subject: knee lever bars
From: ma@usa.pipeline.com (MA)

Hi, 
 
I was going to answer Deb about the knee bars privately but thought that
everyone might benefit from what I've learned having both types of singer
lever bars. 
 
OK look at the small hole in the front of your base where the lever would
insert into. 
1) Is it just a hollow hole?You can see nothing? 
     Then you would need the flat ended knee bar. 
2) If you look at the hole and see a round metal thingy smack dab in the
center, then you need the rounded kneebar that slips right onto this metal
piece as the bar is inserted. 
 
Hope this helps. 
Maggie 
 
Maggie in NY 
ma@pipeline.com



Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 17:16:37 +0000
From: Ellen Lessmann 
Subject: What is series 15

Sorry if my stupidity is offensive, but I have been reading and 
watching, thinking this question would get answered, and I wouldn't 
have to ask, but I just haven't seen anything that gives me 
understanding.
What does Series 15 refer to?  I have a Sewing Machine Blue Book and I 
can't find any references.  I understand the other Singer Model 
references but this one has me puzzled.  TIA.  Ellen



Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 15:42:44 -0700
From: "Michael R. Hagerty" 
Subject: Wanted

We would like to buy two featherweights. What are the
current selling prices and which are the best models
for quilting. What books do you recommend that would
give us the best info on models and prices?

Thank you
Priscilla and Judy



Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 16:00:31 -0700
From: "Michael R. Hagerty" 
Subject: Wanted

We want to buy two feather weights. Please send info
to this email address:  mrh@azstarnet.com



Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 18:52:25 -0500
From: Carol Austin 
Subject: Singer Neon Sign

Just to announce that I have a beautiful red and white "Singer" sign
on the wall above my fabric shelves in my quilt room.  Thanks to a fellow
FWF who saw it in an antique shop in New London, CT and posted it to the
group.  Looks wonderful and makes a great night light.  However the other
night when I came home I realized that it makes a very bright "red light" in
the window from the outside.  Hope I don't get any unexpected callers!  It's
fun to collect the little things but  big neon signs are fun too.  What a
great group this is and so much fun to read about all the collecting going
on.  Thanks Sue for making this group possible and all you out there who
keep posting.

Carol in Arkansas


Carol McNiece Austin



Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 15:49:06 -0400
From: duck@clark.net (Bob Campbell)

Hi:

On Sunday a mini-meeting of about 30 members of   ISMACS,   FWF and Toy
Stitchers met at the home of Anna and Zach outside of Baltimore, along with
Maggie Snell and Graham who are vacationing thru America.  We had a small
swap meet ( I'm relatively new to collecting TSM's so I was buying only).

Our show-and-tell session  was very interesting.  Krisi  Santilla brought a
FW in the slightly crinkled matte black finish (godzilla as we call it) and
we all got to see and touch the FW "cabinet".   This last item gave us all
something else to look for on our scavenger hunts -- I know I'll find one.
I believe that Krisi and Bob are truly our resident FW experts and I'd like
to remind everyone to please register your FW specs on their database, so
that this historic record will be as complete as possible.  

Another  interesting item that was shown to us was a variation of the Singer
small oval can  -- instead of its spout being in the center of the top, it
was offset about 3/4"  -- something else to look for when rummaging  on our
weekends.

Graham and Maggie also gave a slide  and video presentation  that featured
some really great machines that make up part of Maggie and Graham's
collection of over 600 SM's.  Graham had considerable fun  with how
American's murder the English language -- and we had to remind him of who
lost in 1776.  It was all in jest and we had a good time.

I was amazed by Zach and Anna's collection of toy and full-size machines and
got a personal preview tour on Saturday when I delivered a white FW to their
door; and ended up spending over 3 hours with this very gracious and
hospitable couple -- thanks to both of them for their welcome and their
knowledge and for hosting this very special mini event.

P.S.  A special thank you Clair Toschi, the Editor of Toy Stitchers, who
donated 7 gifts as door prizes -  your generosity was warmly appreciated.

Thanks for listening
Bob Campbell
duck@clark.net



From: "Lori" 
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 18:19:33 -0800
Subject: 401A

Hi All;
I just bought a 401A yesterday.  It came with the five cams listed 
in the book and some attachments.  I got a copy of a manual for a 401 
and it seems that treading the machine is different than the 401A.  
Are there two different manuals?  Also I was wondering if there are 
cams out there for the 401A that are for sale?  Please e-mail me.  
thanks, Lori
Lori Scott
lscott@ddt.net
Red Bluff, Ca.



From: Mary Rothenbuhler 
Subject: RE: Help
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 21:23:11 -0600

Hello,

I am in need of some screws for a couple of my buttonholers, the one that 
screws the feed dog cover down to the machine, and the one that attaches 
the buttonholer to the machine.
Would anyone have any extra for sale, or know of a place that I can order 
them?  I would really appreciate any help and/or information on this.  TIA	
Mary in Idaho



Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 22:38:22 -0500
From: eagle@netusa1.net
Subject: singer 115

Does anyone have an origional manual for a singer 115 that they would like
to sell? 

Also would anyone have any info on this machine

thanks.....
 Randy Martin - Sysop Sudden Impact BBS  317-457-5957  28,800
              - Fax # 317-868-7088
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	      -   Judas Dragon
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From: Featherweight Fanatics 
Subject: FW Fanatics 8/30/96
To: Sue@quilt.com
X-Mailer: LeeMail 2.0.5
Message-Id: 

IMPORTANT ADMINISTRATIVE MESSAGE  - PLEASE READ!!!

Hi Everyone, 

A few important announcements:

1) From tomorrow on, all messages concerning machines or accessories or 
anything else that you have for sale should be sent to FWForSale@ttsw.com.  
These messages will be collected up during the week &will be mailed out to the 
list on Saturdays.  I feel that there are just too many for sale messages in 
the regular postings &I want to separate them from the normal chat of the FW 
Fanatics list.  Any for sale postings coming into the regular list mail box, 
FWFanatics@ttsw.com, will be deleted.

2) Please, send your postings to FWFanatics@ttsw.com and no where else.  I've 
been getting mail sent to lots of other addresses, some very creative, but not 
correct.  And please, do not send postings to the list to my personal address.  
I've been forwarding these to the list, but since I will be away for a week or 
so at the beginning of October, I can't count on my husband &kids to look for 
stray messages.  

3) It looks like hurricane Edquard will be coming close, but we won't be 
getting the worst of the storm here.  But, if the storm does shift to the west 
before it hits land, there may be some interuptions in the FWF.  If you don't 
receive the list on Monday or Tuesday, check the weather report.  If Edquard 
hit Connecticut, you'll know why the list is late in getting to you.

4) Reminder - Our next chat is Sunday, Spet. 1, at 2pm edt.

Thanks and if you have any questions regarding the changes to the list, please 
e-mail me personally, Sue@ttsw.com.

Sue T


Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 08:31:44 -0400
From: BSawyer631@aol.com
Subject: Post Re: Frister &Rossman

To Anthea:  Your son did great getting a pre-1900 Frister &Rossman for $10!
 I paid $70 for mine.  Asking price was $85.  Another collector told me that
she bought one for $100 a couple months back.   Mine does not have
mother-of-pearl on the bed, but 2 collectors said theirs did.  How about
yours?  Any information as it becomes available would be appreciated. 
 
Barb in Texs




From: Jim &Susie Ragan 
Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 8/25/96
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 21:40:45 -0600

A Colorado Springs antique dealer claims that the Singer family usually 
summered there in the Broadmoor area.  Anyone know if it's true, and where 
the Singer estate was located?  Susie in CO



Date: Mon, 26 Aug 1996 23:56:41 -0400
From: Larry Doyle 
Subject: 4-Sale

 Hi Folks,I have 4-sa;e a 99 w/reversein excellent condition w/case and a
185 also like new w/case $50.00 each plus S+H
A Hand Crank Singer 7-8 condition sews well  pretty decal work and Grape and
vine motife on face plate year 1912 $125.00            



Date: Thu, 29 Aug 1996 22:04:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: lynncc@quake.net (Lynn Cope Conroy)
Subject: Elna Supermatic

I just got an Elna Supermatic at a neighbourhood yard sale. I ogled it for
a long time, afraid to ask the price, because no matter how good the price,
I needed another sewing machine like I needed a hole in the head.  The
owner could tell I was truly agonizing here and told me to just take it. I
tried to give her $5 but she said no, I was doing her a favour.

I plugged it in and listened to some funny noises. Then I opened things up
and cleaned it here and there, put it back together and listened to it hum.
Next step is to see if it actually sews.

Does anyone know the vintage of this machine?


Lynn
Half Moon Bay, California



Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 00:14:18 -0700
From: The Dougherty Family 
Subject: 185K

Sharon Reese--I paid $10 for my 185K at an antique shop.  I was able to get
the machine out of the base by unscrewing a single bolt in the middle of the
base bottom.  The tension dial seems to be messed up on my machine, but I
haven't had the time to play with it.  When I first got it, nothing moved,
and I oiled it liberally with Singer SM oil.  Now all the parts move, but
the tension dial only goes halfway.  Once the kids start school, Sept. 3,
I'll have little more time to play!

  
Teri Dougherty
The Back Door, Greenwood, IN
23 Years and Going Strong!



Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 01:34:44 -0400
From: Clay &Shelly Leihy 
Subject: SewHandy bobbin case

Know of someone with the cutest little green Sewhandy who may want to
sell because its missing the bobbin case. Anyone have one? If so, or if
you know where to get it, how much do they go for? I'd much rather see
this machine kept by its current owner, or sold to someone else who
would use it (like me) rather than sold off to be made into a lamp
someplace because its "nonfunctional".

Clay &Shelly



Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 02:00:22 -0700
From: Heidi Sturdivant 
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/27/96

Caution:  LONG POST

I have been reading for a few weeks and just love all the stories.  I am
just a beginner at this, but I can see how this might get out of control :).
It has been a great SM week.

I found a tan 401 at Goodwill (made in Germany) on 8/26 for $10.  I could
hardly believe it.  My mother had one that looked just like it [maybe a
different model # - but also made in Germany], only with the free arm -- a
gift from my dad when she had the fourth and last baby.  Like after she had
four kids in five years she would find any time to sew, NOT.  Anyway she
gave hers to my sister who doesn't sew, so I was tickled to get this one.
Has the case, extension, drawers, five cams, feet, ruffler, rolled hemmer,
etc.  Really a beautiful machine.

Put $$ down on another FW on 8/27 . . . DH doesn't know about the one living
in my "sewing" room already.  The first one is a AE, born in 1936.  My 9yo
son is my colleague in crime.  The new one has an AH serial #, so he said it
should be his since his given name is Adam Hans.   I am not telling my
son that I'm buying it, 'cause 2 FW might create more enthusiasm than he
could contain.  When we went back there looking at some of his wish list
items, the machine was no longer in the display case.  So, he thinks it's
gone.  I do not think I'll be finding any bargain FWs in this neck of the
woods, but I keep looking anyway.

Yesterday, I found a tan 301 (also German made) at a different Goodwill for
$20.  I guess I was trying to be "good", so I left it there.  Then, I came
home and read what you all thought of that machine.  So, today I went back
and got it.  Checked it out mechanically while at the store.  I think
someone had it "repaired" (or tried to do it themselves) and the service
person didn't get the racehook mechanism (?) in right and/or put the wrong
part in, 'cause I can't get the bobbin case to fit in.  I took it to the
Bernina dealer who services my school machines, so I know it will get done
right.  I don't think it will be a big ticket item . . . but this will be
the second time I've spent more on the servicing, than I did on the machine
itself.  I bought a Model 15 (dob 6/12/34) for less than $30 including tax
last Christmas -- my first "antique" machine.  Will get the 401 done soon,
too.  The 301 just purrs! It looks to be in great shape if we can get the
racehook problem corrected.

The hemstitching attachments you all are talking about . . . do they create
those holes for attaching lace edgings, etc?

In the last two weeks:
Saw a Singer handcrank in a wooden case (F1415039) in Buckley, Washington
($$ unknown -- wasn't really thinking of it for me) and a blonde treadle
which looked to be very old, maybe a Vibratory Shuttle #2 - cabinet looks
right, but relatively easy to repair (13098727) in Thorp, Washington for
$195.  Paint was worn on each, but both could be operational.  The treadle
was missing the shuttle, the top sliding plate was a little bent (but I
think it could be fixed) and the middle drawer needed fixing.  The cabinet
needed some refinishing, but it is the kind where the box sits on top.
Another box on top treadle was sighted in Sumner, Washington -- German made,
Afrana (?sp), not as close to being operational, but showed potential,
especially if you know what you're doing.  I also saw a Wheeler and Wilson
(?), extremely old or so they say, in Pullman, Washington.  They could be
all wet, but it was dated 1850s and $750.  If you would like me to hunt down
phone #'s, let me know.  It did look strange.

Sorry, such a long post.  With school starting, I'll be reading mainly.  So,
happy hunting . . . I'll be enjoying it vicariously!

---Heidi
sturdvnt_heidi@halcyon.com



Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 08:09:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: jeanie barnhart 
Subject: for sale/fw controller

        have a new foot pedal with lead-cord for 221, $30.00 includes
        ups shipping. ordered in error found mine! (paid $39.00)
 
        email me if interested.  jeanie  



Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 08:19:48 -0400
From: Larry Doyle 
Subject: 401 for sale

 Hi Folks I have a 401 in condition for sale completley maintained very
little use.with manual $225.00



From: rsmeyer@maxinet.com (Rosemary Teghtmeyer)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 07:19:49 +0000
Subject: 301/301A

To Joy:
>Joy in IN, where the hottest yuckiest weather of the summer is here 
>I haven't seen anyone respond to Wilma's question of 8/17 on the 301 
>bed extensions.  Yes, there are two different size extensions:  one is 
>about 5 and 1/2" long and the other is about 2 and 3/4"  (I don't own a 
>short, so somebody correct me if I'm wrong).  It seems that 301 cabinets 
>take the short beds, but the 301 tables come in both sizes.  Either size 
>can also be used as a portable, of course.

  You're right Joy, from what I've been told. The long extensions 
went in the case, the short went in cabinets. 

   I have 2 short extensions, one bought in the 301 cabinet. I also 
have 2 long extensions in cases. 

  These machines are all the same coco brown. One of the short 
extensions is a 301 while the others are all  301A. What I have noticed 
betweent the 301 &301A is : 
 My 301 is a matt finish of the coco brown. The "Singer" gold decals 
are also different between the 301 &301A. There are also other 
cosmetic differences. 

   Has anyone else noticed the shiny 301A's and the matt finish on 
the 301? Or is this just because I only have 1 301 to compare to.

And Sew It Goes,
Rosemary
rsmeyer@maxinet.com
Chico, Ca



Date:	Fri, 30 Aug 1996 07:55:46 -0700
From:	dstuber@direct.ca (Diane Stuber)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/28/96

Hi Everybody
Have been lurking a long  time I just love this list great people anybody
who loves old sewing machines have to be great. I have 2  FW for sale
probably 8 or better If anybody lives in Washington state ( on the west
side) I live not far from Bellingham . E me and I will give you all the
details about the machines what they have and dont have .I am going sewing
machine hunting next week  I found a good source I hope nobody knows until
after I get there then I will let Tracy From Bowen Island know about it  .

  Diane
E- dstuber@direct.ca
Mt. Lehman B.C.



Date: Tue, 27 Aug 1996 11:37:59 -0500
From: jfisher@sunset.backbone.olemiss.edu (Julie Fisher)
Subject: 222k Dating

Sarah Brown in NZ:

I called Singer today and found out that your 222k was made on November 18, 
1953.  As you've probably seen posted to this list, my machine and 
Jeanette's machine were made on the same day:  March 31, 1954.  I haven't 
seen the ISMACS book, and I can't shed any other light on the date business. 
 Anyone else have any thoughts?

Julie
jfisher@olemiss.edu



Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 11:08:48 -0700
From: Nancy Slater 
Subject: 201 prices?

what is the 'going price' for 201's nowadays? one in good condition,
with case. thanx, please email me at nancy@aspect.com.
thanx!
nancy



Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 11:42:34 -0700
From: derbo@ix.netcom.com (John F Derbyshire)
Subject: new address

Hi everybody,

I have a new address.  I was idoquilts@aol.com now I'm 
derbo@ix.netcom.com

Chris V. in GA, did you receive the sm okay?  Please let me know if all 
is okay.

Thanks, Mary D. in NC



Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 14:07:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: Doreen Foote 
Subject: for sale

 Hi All, I'm up to 44 machines now and 2 more on the way. I have for sale a
201  with accessories $250.00 , excellant condition. A very nice tan 301A
$175.00.    Also buttonholers. I recently bought a singer pinker that clamps
to the table..I'd never seen one. Passed on a Minnesota treadle at an
auction..went over $200.00!
Does anyone know how to date New Home treadles or Domestics? Whites?
New Vassar?
Aren't sewing machines wonderful!! I love them!!!!!!!!!
Take care..Treadlin' Doreen
dfoote@cnmnet.com



Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 17:26:07 -0400
From: JimAlmonte@aol.com
Subject: Singer Monogrammer for sale

Today when my youngest son and I were doing the rounds of the thrift stores,
we found a Singer monogrammer for slant needle zigzag machines, specifically
750 series machines.   It is complete with all 26 cams, instruction manual,
feed dog cover, etc.  I'd like $10 for it plus postage--e-mail me if you are
interested.


                                            Cyndi (Janesville, WI)
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From: Featherweight Fanatics 
Subject: FW Fanatics 8/31/96
To: Sue@quilt.com
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Date: 31 Aug 96 13:50:36 EDT
From: Chris Vagtborg <71155.1072@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: post

Hi All...

Well,  received  the 301a that I mail ordered the other day. As the old saying 
goes,  "Caveat  Emptor".  Gee,  when  one  describes  the  machine as being in 
perfect  mechanical  condition  with  a  little paint bubble on the light, you 
kind  of  expect it to have the carrying handle, no paint bubbling on the bed, 
and  have  the paint intact on the light with no bare metal showing... And the 
green  'grungy'  case  has  the  bottom  falling out and is not even original! 
Arrrgghhh!  Hope I can convince the seller to take it back as having been mis-
represented...  (Hell hath no fury as an Internet geek scorned). BTW, you know 
who you are, so please email me privately, so we can discuss this - OK?

On  a  brighter  note,  found  a  second  301 today! Offered as a 'commercial' 
machine,  I  wasn't really interested in going over to look at it - but glad I 
did!  It's  a  black 301 with the short bed in a cabinet! Gold is intact. It's 
pretty  grungy,  after  sitting  for  30  years,  but  I know it will clean up 
nicely.  I  hadn't  seen  this  cabinet  before:  Uneven  top leaves fold open 
exposing  the  machine.  The  left leaf (the longer one) is supported by a rod 
that  'pops' out as you open the leaf. The right leaf is a lot shorter and has 
no  support.  There  are  three  drawers (empty) on the right side of the knee 
hole.  The  machine  comes up just like a treadle head. The machine is latched 
into  a  carrier  kind  of like the holder for a FW in a FW table. The machine 
unlatches  and  comes  right  out.  Interesting note: The original button foot 
control  is  mounted  behind a faux drawer at the front of the cabinet. A knee 
lever  is  incorporated to interact with the foot control - ingenious! You can 
easily remove machine and control to make it portable! Way cool...

For   Judy:  What  you  describe  is  a  Singer  Toy  (probably  a  model  50) 
manufactured  in  the  mid-fifties. You are correct in that it's a chainstitch 
machine,  the  lever  is a stitch regulator, and you do thread it in the order 
indicated  1  - 6. Three's a little tricky as you pass the thread down through 
the  oval  hole, then between the metal strips and up across the tension disks 
('4').  The  needle  threads from left to right. Your W&G needles should work, 
but  make  sure  it's  all  the  way in the needle holder. Flat edge of needle 
shank  to  the  right.  The  looper  (the 'two rotating hooks' as you describe 
them)  is  adjustable  in/out.  The  short  sharp part of the hook should just 
clear  the  needle  (and  pick up the thread loop). When set up properly, this 
little  machine  sews a wonderful chainstitch. I will try to get you a copy of 
the  manual,  but  I  sold  it  with  the  machine.  BTW, if it's in excellent 
condition,  it's worth at least $100... PS: we've got needles for your W&G and 
the toy for $1.

For  Rita: Flaking Paint is 'nigh unto impossible to restore... (want to buy a 
301a cheap?).



Date: Wed, 28 Aug 96 13:49:55 EDT
From: woodnspl@rma.edu
Subject: Rubbermaid Box

I just found a Rubbermaid black fine box that will hold the featherweight all 
most perfectly.  It was 5.99 at Big Lots.

Ann  in Front Royal VA
woodnspl@rma.edu



From: "Jeffrey E. Froyd" 
Subject: Supermatic Thanks
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 12:23:53 -0500

Just want to say a big THANK YOU to EVERYONE who responded to my request 
for an Elna Supermatic manual.  I started out replying individually, but 
got kind of overwhelmed along the way and I think I've missed a few of you. 
 Everyone was so kind and helpful, loved all the comments on the machine. 
 I do have a copy of a manual on the way now, so thanks again to all of 
you---Featherweight Fanatics are the best!

Joy in IN



From: Ken &Mary Ann Vaughan 
Subject: lubricants, rust, etc
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 10:45:51 -0800

As the technical support (nerd) for the local household fanatic, the =
discussion on WD 40 etc has been carefully pointed out to me.  I have =
worked some as a gunsmith, and lots of maintenance and repair time.
=20
Recent discussions on WD 40 as a solvent and light oil agree with my =
reading of WD40 literature and my experience.  The product has never =
been billed as a long term rust preventer,

There are more current lubricants that are much improved from the =
machine oils of the 20s-30s-40s-50s etc.  There are also some excellent =
products on the market for rust prevention, especially while items are =
in storage.

Molybdenum disulfide lubricants are the minimum standard for most moving =
parts (that is effectiveness standard -- there are some applications =
where it is not the appropriate choice).  There are a number of products =
that go beyond that minimum.  Some of these use teflon in them. =20

I have had excellent success with Breakfree and Tri-flow (both are =
teflon based lubricants.  Brownell sells a two part dry lubricant that =
seems to work well in many high movements situations  (Brownells is a =
gunsmith supply business in Montezuma Iowa 50171 ph 515-623-5401).  =
Brownells also sells small nylon, brass, bronze, steel brushes and other =
cleaning materials.  They charge a few dollars for a catalog, but it has =
lots of different things for machine maintenance hiding in it.  (No =
financial interest there, but have used products from them for years.)

We live in Juneau Alaska in a 100 inch per year precipitation belt, and =
are on the ocean.  The favorite product for corrosion prevention here is =
a product called "Corrosion X".  It is sold through the airplane parts =
counters, and at the boating stores.  The aviation folks use it by the =
gallon to spray the inside tail areas of floatplanes to stop/slow the =
corrosion of salt water.  The avionics (airplane electronics) folks use =
it to stop corrosion of radios and electronics that go into the salt =
water.  Good stuff.  An aerosol can cost a little less than $20 locally. =
 Sprayed on the inside of a sewing machine it will coat and protect from =
rust, and stop existing rust from spreading.  It creaps into the places =
it cannot be sprayed.  Look for it for sewing machines to be stored.  =
The real stuff has a Mil specification number and FAA  approval

LPS also sells a heavy duty product for rust inhibiting, but is more =
suitable for external uses.

The fanatic in the household is looking for "ASK SAM" software -- I have =
not found it in catalogs recently.  She advised that she heard about it =
on this digest.  Would appreciate a lead.

She advises that DH means "darling husband".  I am a little unbelieving =
as I have been called on occasion a "DS" where the D stood for "dumb". 



Date: 31 Aug 96 15:15:46 EDT
From: Chris Vagtborg <71155.1072@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: post

Hi All...

For  Cathy - I'm aware of at least two models of the Spartan. The older, black 
192K3  and a newer 327K. The Spartan is close cousin to the 99 series and mine 
sews very well. I've added a light and a new case.

For  Ellen  -  the  Singer  15  Series refers to the machines that make up the 
model  15. That being, models 15-30, 15-86, 15-87, 15-96, 15-97, 15-88, 15-90, 
15-91 and 15-125. There may be more...

For  All  -  I'm  sorry  I 'dumped' my frustration on you guys over buying the 
301a  that was mis-represented here on FWF. My friend Al (in Illinois) cheered 
me  up  considerably  by reminding me what the machine is worth in parts. Some 
times I get a little short sighted, I guess...

On  an  up  beat  note,  I  did  find  a  FW  today  for  $70 with case, lube, 
attachments,  screw  drivers  (2),  and  even  a  zig  zagger.  That brings me 
currently  up  to  two 221's, a FW table, two 27's, one 127, two 66's, a 99, a 
Spartan,  a  301a, and a black 301 in a 301 cabinet. And they all work! And to 
think that six months ago, I was afraid to clean my wife's Pfaff...

Interesting  phenomena  department:  More  and more people are coming into the 
shop  looking  for  a simple, dependable sewing machine - "nothing fancy, just 
give  me  something  that  sews  a  nice straight stitch and doesn't require a 
college education to use..."

Chris @ Stepping Stones Quilts...



From: Elizabeth Faria 
Subject: New Machine
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 19:39:11 +0000

Last Sunday we (the kids and I) stopped at a local thrift shop to have a
look around.  Found an old black Singer in a bentwood case, looks a lot like
my FW and 301a but a little different.  Very heavy, sign on it said worked,
machine in good shape and case looked good too. Price was $29.99 marked down
from $59.99.  Wanted to buy her but with just spending lots of money on back
to school clothes, the check book was a little skinny.

Stopped back today just to check and see if she was still there and guess
what the price was cut again to $19.99.  Felt that was a sign from on high
that I was ment to buy yet another old Singer machine, so I did.

Serial #  AJ486829, light on back of machine, tension regulator on back of
head back by the presser bar lifter, machine in good shape, maybe an 8 on
the scale.  Can anyone out there tell me what model she is???  And I'd like
to get a copy of a manual when I find out.  Also does the key to the
featherweights fit these old bentwood cases, I guess thats the only wat to
get the top of the case to stay on.  Got a few extra feet but not much else.
Hope someone out there can e-mail me with the model # so I'll know what I've
bought.  Thank you all, I love reading this list every day with all the
stories, I'm glad I can add a little story of my own.

Liz Faria
new e-mail adress -    SilverStar@worldnet.att.net

Friends are our chosen familly.



Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 17:22:17 -0400
From: BSawyer631@aol.com
Subject: Post: More SMs to clean up!

  
   Should be working, but ran out of fabric for a quilt top I am working on,
so my DH and I made a run out.  Of course, we had to stop at am antique shop
we passed and had never gone into.....  I found a brown and tan case in
horrible condition, looked like a SM case.  Opened it to find what I am
pretty sure is a 66 inside. Covered in mud splatters....  She said she would
give me a good price if she didn't have to clean it up (it had just come in).
 I commented that the case was pretty shot.  We plugged it in, the motor was
bound up.  She said the price was getting lower all the time.  I asked DH if
he (an Electrical Engineer) could work on the motor.  Hmmm, maybe.  I asked
what her price was.  $10.  Okay.  This will need work.   She also had a ferw
other machines.  Is anyone familiar with Grister?  It is in a New Home
cabinet.  Also a fine Featherweight.  (She is not eager to sell it.... $500)
   
   Down the road we stopped at a spot where I had seen a 1920  127, electric,
runs fine, has the key to the bentwood case, the shuttle and bobbin, and a
plate to cover the feed dogs, and a ruffler (I think that's what it is, but
will have to check it more closely).  Sphinx decal is in danger of flaking
off  -  and the nachine needs a lot of cleaning.  Case, too.  But for $35 I
brought it home with me.  
   Also saw a Nonpareil machine in a superfine heavily carved oak cabinet.
 Said it had was a working machine, but the treadle belt was in a drawer and
the shuttle and bobbin were missing.  When I inquired, she said, "Well, the,
it doesn't run,"  closed it up and walked off.  Guess she won't be selling it
for $299 real soon.  Anyone know about these machines?
 Yes, I found the fabric and must now get back to work.  Maybe play with the
machines tonight.
  Barb in Texas



Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 18:04:29 -0400
From: BSawyer631@aol.com
Subject: POST:  Correction

Well, it's not a 66, it's a 99K!  Under the mud one can see, very clearly,
the 99K.  Since I have never seen a 66 or a 99 before this, it matters not!
 Now I know!!  Cleaning up well.....
 Barb in Texas, who should be working but is cleaning her machines.....



Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 16:20:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: obasco@ionet.net (ryan humphrey)
Subject: my new featherweight 

hello, this is jerry sue in oklahoma city, ok. i have been seeing your daily
info and waiting to get the info on my fw together to see if someone could
help me date, etc. my little black beauty.  saw 1st one in kansas at singer
store it was a century model and he really did'nt want to sell it, plus he
went up a great deal on price after first quote.  wanted $700.00. wheeeee.
looked when i got back home would you beleive it right away found same
model, i am sure
i paid too much, but not near his price.  its in excell condition case too,
but it came with sales invoice and packing slip all printed in german, price
and all
i have written everything down, including some extra goodies that were in the
case.  its quite a list, should i ask for someone to contact me or go ahead 
with
info? all may not be interested.  let me know.  jerry sue - obasco@ionet.net.
this is my son's spot.  hope to hear from someone soon!



From: Mary Rothenbuhler 
Subject: RE:500 Rocketeer
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 16:35:36 -0600

Hello,

Okay, I need to know if I passed up a great deal, or was I smart to pass it 
by.  I found a great model 500 at a yard sale today, she wanted $85.00 for 
it.  It had all the cams, attachment feet galore, the extra throat plates, 
manual, screw drivers, etc.  I got her down to $75.00, but DH was looking a 
little worried that I was investing more than it was worth.  I have til 
tomorrow afternoon to go back and get it.  It was still there as she was 
closing up for the night.  How about it, was it a good deal, or what?

At another yard sale, I asked where the sm was that had been advertised, 
she said, oh yeah, I forgot I'd put that in the paper, do you want to see 
it?  Of course I did.  It was a 15  in a cabinet, manual, all attachments, 
buttonholer with manual, oil can, lube tubes, extra bobbin belt, and motor 
belts.  But another cabinet?  I looked at DH who shrugged and said offer 
$25.00.  I thought that was a bit insulting, so I looked at the owner and 
said how much would you want for it?  Oh,,,,$15.00!!!!  We then said ok 
sure.  Then had to figure out how to put it in the back of a Taurus sedan, 
what a joke.  We did it, but from now on the Suburban goes with us on all 
saling trips.  DH smugly says, so $25.00 was insulting huh???  I'll have to 
live with that for awhile I guess.

Mary in Idaho



Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 19:41:56 -0400
From: Mark &Katy 
Subject: Dropping Feed dogs

Someone asked about which machines can drop the feed dogs. I know you 
can (I have on mine) on the following models:  Model 15, model 201, 
model 301. You can NOT drop them on the 66, 99, FW (unless a 222). Hope 
this helps. Katy



Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 21:02:40 -0400
From: duck@clark.net (Bob Campbell)

Hi:
For those newcomers to the list -- I'm interested in trading one  (or more)
of my  Singer Featherweights in exchange for some toy sewing machines.  I'm
interested in any of the following toy machines:

"Little Mother" by Artcraft Metal Products

Older Casige models in good shape including  #6; Sunflowers;  Little Red
Riding Hood; Sew-O-Matic;  various Art Deco models.

Genero Machine Works "Gurlee"

Hoge Mfg. Co.  "No 325 - Popular Model-Little Princess"

Made in Germany - Vielfach Geschutz "Liliputian"

Lindstrom Tool &Toy Co. "Little Miss"  Shirley Temple 

F.W. Muller - any models pre WWII. (including toy treadles, Models 16, 18, 21)

Schurhoff and Co. "Gold Rain'

Sears Roebuck Kenmore by National Sewing Machine Co. "bright red" 1930"s and
1940"s

Sotoy "Martha Washington"

Made in Japan "Puppy"

If you have any of these toys or know any serious collectors please let me 
know.

Thanks

Bob C


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