Featherweight Fanatics Archives

August 1996

Sunday, August 18th - Saturday, August 24th

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From: Mary Rothenbuhler 
To: 'Featherweight Fanatics' 
Subject: RE: Average cost of my 301's
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 1996 22:01:44 -0600
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Hello again!

I was rereading the FWF, and caught the post about costs of 301's.  I now 
own 5 of the little honeys, and decided to average out my cost....Would you 
believe $38.30.  But then I remembered that I got a lot of extras with 
them, so I subtracted those from the total cost, and came up with $18.30 
per machine.  I've been really lucky, with the 5, I have gotten 2 zig zag 
attachments, one with a box of extra bights, 4 Buttonholers, 1 with extra 
templates, and 3 full to partial boxes of attachments.  Two came with 
cases, and 1 had a lovely cabinet with bench.
Just thought you might be interested.  I feel like you folks who have been 
collecting FW's long enough to have stories about the $5.00, or $10.00 FW. 

Mary in Idaho...one more time!


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Thanks for the clarification. I had guessed as much, but have learned
not to make assumptions about anything. Now if we could explain why
Featherweights in general command the prices they do, even though
(probably) millions were made, and some "rarer" machines sell for much
less. Perhaps that relates to what one collectible authority told me,
"Don't buy it for its value, buy it because you love it." (And an awful
lot of us really love those Featherweights.) 
An interesting note -- a couple of SM dealers I know refuse to sell FWs
for more than $150 or $200, claiming that's all they're really worth.
One said, "It's you guys on the internet driving up the prices on those
things." I won't argue with him, if only because he's been so good about
digging parts out his warehouse for me that I don't want to get on his
bad side. This man's a real gem, one of the few who would rather spend
an hour talking old machines (one showed me, on his bench, how to set
the timing on most Singers) than trying to sell something new. (I'm
still working up to getting an invitation to that parts warehouse.)

BTW, anyone have a monagrammer for a 401? A lady at a shop showed me the
cardigan she had monagrammed with hers, and its absolutely marvelous.
I'd love to know if any are available, and what kind of experiences
people have had with them.



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To: Featherweight Fanatics 
Subject: Knee Control
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 96 22:19:44 -0800
From: Lorena Scott 
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Hi; I just bought a 99 in a bentwood case  The bentwood case sits in the
table that came with it.  The serial number is AC061234 There is only one
problem it is missing the knee control and I was hoping that someone out
there might have an extra one they would want to sell if so please e-mail my
friend  Rosemary at  rsmeyer@maxinet.com  The reason for e-mailing my friend
is that I just changed servers and am having trouble receiving my mail. 
Thank you      Lori
Lori  lscott@ddt,net


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Hello, I've been lurking for a while and finally have something to post. 
 I bought a 404G at the local Salvation Army store for just under $20 
including tax.  It doesn't have a manual or any attachments but I'm very 
pleased with it.  The feed dogs drop so I want to try machine quilting on 
I also recently bought a rather messed up FW.  The tray on the right side 
that holds attachments has been ripped out, the bobbin casing was 
incorrectly installed and I'm still trying to get it out, the fold out 
extension is cracked and there are a few misc. scratches.  My DH made a 
few remarks about this one.                                              
 I have 5 Featherweights, a White Rotary with godzilla finish, a 1970's 
Kenmore, a newer White and now a 404G.                                   
 Thanks to Sue for doing this, to Bobbi and Graham for the manual and to 
everyone for sharing information and just being nice.  Janet in Northern 


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From: "l.mclaughlin" 
Subject: DH seeks comparisons of 221 vs. 221-1


I'm a DH who purchased two FW's (and other machines) for my wife.  

I purchased a 221-1, vintage 1940-41. I would like to know what the
difference is between this and the 221 (or any other earlier models).

I also purchased a vintage 1964 white 221k.  I would like to know the
differences between this and the 221-1 that I purchased.  I'm given to
understand that this unit uses rubber belts instead of gears and is regarded
as inferior.  What do I know -- I'm a guitar collector!  

Also, does anyone have a list of all the machines Singer made and their

Any info that you could email me would be appreciated.

Thank you,



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From: Graham Forsdyke <100661.3256@CompuServe.COM>
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Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/16/96
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TO AJH in Leeds

Another UK Fanatic. Wow. If you can hold for a month I'll provide information,
manual etc on Frister and R on my return from vacation., To make sure, please
e-mail me first week in September and it'll be on the pile to go when I get

Graham Forsdyke


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Hi everyone!

I've been reading all of the entries for quite some time now and I thought I
would join in.  It's really nice to know that I'm not the only one who has
this crazy hobby of collecting sewing machines.  If any of you are ever in
North Carolina there are tons of wonderful machines everywhere.  I was out
scouting the junk shops yesterday and I came across and old Singer in a
rounded wooden case.  It has a centennial medallion on it.  I don't know a
lot about this type of machine but I told the lady who owns the store that I
would post for her.  The Singer has a dull matte finish all gold work is
perfect.  I have no idea what model number it is but it is in really fabulous
condition.  It just needs dusting and the metal part that covers the bobbin
area was off but it was still with the machine.  The lady wants $75 for it.
 If anyone is interested please call her the name of her shop is Everything
But Grannies Panties located on Guess road in Durham, North Carolina the area
code is (919).  You can email me directly or call longdistance information
for the number.  She also has a Singer 327 for $15 and a Singer 404 with a
cabinet for $45.  I don't work for her I just like to poke around her shop.
 I'm not buying because I already have three fw's, a Bernina 1630, a
beautiful Singer treadle from 1906 in beautiful wood ornate cabinet with
original manual and complete fold out wooden box of all attachments.  I paid
$25 for this machine back in may.  The lady was moving to florida and it was
too heavy to take with her.  So to the person searching for a treadle they
are definately out there.  I saw one in a mahogony case at the flea market in
Raleigh for $125 just last weekend.  So don't lose hope.

I have a Singer 301a that I'm thinking of selling.  If anyone is interested
please email me and I'll give you the particulars.

I really enjoy this forum.  I've learned quite a bit!  Thanks.

Mary Derbyshire in beautiful sunny Durham, NC! 


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From: yes@lansol.net (Rush Wickes)
Subject: Elna Grasshopper

Hi Feathers,

Excitement abounds this morning. Found an Elna Grasshopper at a flea market.
Came home, plugged it in, heard the motor run, then a little "ping" and
nothing. It seems one of the slender little "fingers" or reeds broke off and
now the sweet little thing doesn't work. When the broken reed is depressed
with a Q-tip, it works. DH, former E engineer is studying the problem.
Is this a part that is impossible to get? I will be getting another
Grasshopper next Sunday from another source but I hate to cannibalize
otherwise nice machines for parts.
I am reluctant to approach my Elna dealer for this repair since I don't have
much of a budget for repair bills as I am not working at this time. 

Should I forget this machine and send it to auction? They go for a lot in
the Philadelphia area.

Would anyone have a copy of a manual that I could buy?

I'd appreciate hearing from Grasshopper owners in general,as well. Does
anyone have any experience with broken reed switches?


Nancy Wickes         


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From: Steve or Terri Carl 
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Millie MacKenzie  said:

: Think I'd better read up on Singer's life and wives. Sounds like it 
: could be juicy! I'd be interested in reading the piece you wrote on
: Singer...If not posted, how about a separate email? 

I'd like to see that, too!  

For those of you who haven't yet found a copy of _Singer &the Sewing
Machine: a Capitalist Romance_ by Ruth Brandon, I was told by my bookstore
that a new softcover edition was being released this summer -- should be
in bookstores by now.  I haven't had time to look yet.  Has anyone else
seen it?  

It's a good book, and not just because it's (peripherally) about sewing
machines.  Until I read it, I had no idea of the range of Singer's 
inventive abilities -- looks like he even invented the RV!  (Read the
description of the fabulous canary yellow carriage... it even carried a
small orchestra!)

Terri (suffering in Houston and desperately waiting for fall -- another
good three months away!)

Steve and Terri Carl


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Hi All...

For Jenifer re: 66 slide plate spring. $1 each, + $0.32 for postage.

For  Julie  re:  step  up transformer. Part no. 67-3010, 100watts, $19.95 + SH 
from Hosfelt Electronics, 800-524-6464.

For  Susan re: oil can. The 'coveted' oval oil can says "Singer Sewing Machine 
Oil". It is green with a lead cap and came in two sizes - short or tall.

For  Marilyn  V  re:  221 belts. Thanks for the plug on the lugged belts. I've 
been saying all along that they sew faster. $5 incl. shipping...

Bye  for  now,  Chris  in Sunny St. Simons Is., GA. where it's time to hit the 
pool  and  read  my  new book, "Sewing Machinery, being a practical manual for 
the Sewing Machine" by JW Urquhart, London, 1881...


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I'm posting today for Michele Breault whose email is not getting through
to FWF.  She and her DH found a cabinet he particularly liked and inside
was something called "The National Two-Spool Machine".  Instead of a
bobbin you put a spool of thread into a holder under the machine.  (Sounds
like a good idea. - personal comment.)  There was a bill of sale dated
1925.  Beautiful decals.  No wear.  Greist attachments.  Is this machine
something special?  Does anyone know anything about it?  



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Subject: Jones machines and misc cleaning

To Graham F. and Chris V.,
  Thanks for the warning about Jones and difficulty in replacing missing
shuttles.  I saw another Jones yesterday - lovely handcrank machine said
Family C. S. (no shuttle), bentwood case (no key), said Waterloo House,
Drapers Ltd, Bridgenorth, NR Manchester,  405532.  By the way, the other 1900
competition machine did have a number of 11790 on it, but I do not know if
that meant anything.  Know where they are, but am "walking by," as suggested
by Graham.  I am more interested in the aesthetics of them (they were so
pretty) since I am using them for display pieces, but I have promised myself
I will not buy a machine that will never again work.    

   I have cleaned the shuttle plate slides on the #3 Vibrating Shuttle Singer
and can now read the Patent date 1886.  They must be the softer nickel.
 Still pitted, of course, but thanks to Zud, fine steel wool and elbow
grease, they are not rusty.  I have used Howard's Orange Oil to clean both
the wood and the metal, coated all with Howard's Feed and Wax.  Look nice.  

  Barb in Texas


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From: lisa huening 
Subject: White Fw vs. Black FW

I have both a white and a black featherweight and when I opened up the
bottom of both, the only difference was in the middle shaft that is
connected to the bobbin. Those are still very similar to each other except
for one gear that is flat against the bottom of the black machine and non
existent in the white one. Then the gear at the bottom of the shaft is
bigger on the black machine than the white one. I am not real mechanical so
I hope this helps. They both have belts to control the wheel of course. 

I didn't see any other belts and pulleys on my white FW aside from the
outside wheel belt. 



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Subject: Various things

Thanks to all who volunteered info about the machine needle threader.  Yes,
it does sort of look like a dachshund.  The hook had been broken off.  Only
the part under the screw remained.  I had a spare on the key ring, so I
replaced the broken one.  To do that, I had to marinate both sides of that
screw for 24 hours before I could persuade it to move.

For Nancy Brand: 401, 402, 403.  I have just acquired a 401a and it has
cams-lots of them.


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Hi All...

For  Millie  MacKenzie...  Gee,  I hope you've got time to stop by our shop on 
your  way  to Miami. We're an easy exit off I-95 (exit 8 in GA) and about a 20 
min. drive out here to the island.

For  Treece  RE:  201  Service  Manual. $9 including SH. email me for details. 
Your Western Electric has a 'vibratory shuttle'.

For  Lydia  re:  SM  ad.  Sorry, I don't know where the ad came from, I got it 
from  Al  Davis  in  IL. Maybe he can tell us! PS: I'll send you a copy of the 
401 manual...

For  Barb in Texas re: oscillating shuttle. Sounds like you're talking about a 
Singer  Improved  Family  SM  which  was a fiddle-bed with an OS vs. vibratory 
shuttle,  like  the slightly older New Family... Of course, the 15-30 was also 
available with the cabinet you describe, but it's not a fiddle-bed

For  Karen  re: new treadles. The Lehman cat. says they're made in Taiwan... I 
haven't  really taken a good look at one, 'cause like you, my last trip to the 
store  was  pre-SM  days. I think AL in IL has seen them, perhaps he'd care to 

For  Anne  re:  White vs Black. The 221 is gear driven, that is, the handwheel 
is  attached  to  a metal rod with a gear under the bobbin winder. Take it off 
and  look  at  it.  (Grease it if you haven't for awhile ). You'll see that 
there  is  another  rod  with  gear that mates to this gear. The rod goes down 
under  the  machine.  Take  off  the  bottom cover and see the rod and another 
gear/rod  that  drives  the bobbin. The 221k substitutes a rubber belt for the 
rod that goes down from the hand wheel rod to the bobbin rod. Comprede?

Bye for now! ...Chris


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Subject: 401

Congratulations on the 401. You're going to love it.  Your buy makes my 39.95
look pricey, but I don't regret it for a minute.  Thanks to the generosity of
a FW, and the ultimate discovery of the attachments for my 401a(a week later)
than my original purchase, I have some duplicate cams.  Find the # on the one
you have and then e-mail me.  I'll be glad to pass my duplicates on to you if
you can use them.


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To: Featherweight Fanatics 
From: Diana McAninch 
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Date: Sun, 18 Aug 1996 20:04:54 +0000
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>From: vredevoe@ucla.edu (Lawrence A. Vredevoe MD,PhD)
>Subject: how do you know what sex your machine is?


I usually just use my machines awhile and they show their personality and
give me a general idea of what kind of name to choose.  I have two Berninas:
Bjorn and Belladonna; three FWs:  Fiona, Susan and  Wild Willy (named after
the fellow from whom I bought him -- whose name was probably not Willy); a
White Rotary:  Free Willy (dumb joke, but it's so big!); Singer 15 in
cabinet:  Cynthia; Singer 99K, made in G.B.:  Gillian; Singer 66 treadle:
Madge (after DH's gm).

Diana in Penna.


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Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/17/96

Am interested #5 221AM and #11 221AF, Thanks


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I have a manual for "White Rotary Electric Sewing Machines, Series 77". 
But I have no ideal how old this machine actualy is (SN: 77MG-19688).  It's
Godzilla finish, and I'm guessing sometime in the 40's.  Anyway, I'll be
happy to photocopy the manual and send it to you.  E-mail me your snail mail
address with a note as to WHAT I am copying (occasionally I forget exactly
what it is I've promised to send someone.

To Beth H.

Since your main concern for a machine for your aunt seems to be small
size, you might also want to consider a Model 99 or a Spartan.  Both of
these machine are 3/4 size heads so they are slightly bigger than a FW.
But they are not considered as "collectible" as a FW, and should therefore be
cheaper.  One note: they are both considerable heavier than a FW, so if
your elderly aunt would need to lift/move the machine, then you really do
want a FW.  Second note: a Spartan does NOT come with a light attached.

To Treece:

Your "bobbin case that's shaped like a bullet and slides back and forth
on a crescent track" is called a vibrating shuttle mechanism. 

To Karen:

My Model 127 treadle, BD: 5/17/17, has the Sphynx decals.  Someone had
previously mentioned that this pattern was introduced as a result of the
discovery of King Tut's tomb, but I don't remember the year they cited.

Lydia in central Ohio, who has an entire day to herself since DH and LMTS
both went off to watch more bicycle races!

                                  _   _
Lydia Pratt                      |_|X|_|
Columbus, Ohio                   |X|*|X|
lspratt@freenet.columbus.oh.us   |_|X|_|


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Our $2 328K cleaned up beautifully and runs like a champ. That is to
say, that he makes a beautiful smooth stitch, despite the fact that he
vibrates as if there were a small jackhammer inside. Went to visit our
favorite Singer mechanic and got the 328K a needle clamp screw and
presser foot screw. (As well as a bottom cover for Natalie, our 401A.)
He then pulled out his private stash of Singer goodies (from behind one
of the black and gold scroll Singer wastebaskets) to show us, and we
"Oohhed" and "Ahhed" like children at a fireworks show. Some of the
things he had there were: (none for sale)
	Pinker (big black thing that mounts on the machine)
	Blind hemmer (in original green box)
	Automatatic zigzaggers (with extra cams, in green boxes)
	301A walker foot (as seen in manual, in tissue and green box)
	Several lube tubes (in green boxes)
	Small green box with about 20 Singer needles (in tissue)
	Edgestitcher (in tissue and green box)
	Two little wood Boye needle cases with needles
	Other attachments I forgot
	A baggie full of various medallions (taken from "dead" machines)
	AND about half a dozen oval OIL CANS. One of the short ones and the
rest taller, some older with lead spouts and some newer with plastic
spouts, varying condition. When he saw our jaws gaping, he said (get
this) "Go ahead, take one." He also pulled out a couple of old wooden
spools (American, with black and gold labels) and said, "Thought you
might like these." On the way out, I asked how much I owed him for the
stuff, and he said, "Oh, nothing. It's personal." Needless to say,
Shelly wanted him to adopt her, especially after he told her about his
three or four stained-glass Singer signs. Guess you know who's getting
all of our business from now on. BTW - He says that Singer grease is
great, and at this point, I'm inclined to believe anything he says about
SM repair. After all, this man will replace those nearly impossible to
do Touch-N-Sew gears (the ones on the vertical shaft that take literally
hours of work to do) for a whole $70 or so.

So, total cost so far for the 328K is $2. (I've been told they were
cheap, but this is too good.) His name is Herman -- He's big, he's
green, and he shakes the house when he runs. (But down inside, he's
soft-hearted and gentle.)

Clay &Shelly
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	All  are grey color covers, 4.75" x 8.5" manual
	241-12 (1947)
	List of Parts for Nos. 52-54 &52-74 (Aug. 1918)
	List of Parts for Nos. 251-11 &251-13 (1960)
	List of Parts for Nos. 300w102, 300w202, 300w302 &300w402 ('47-53)
	List of Parts for Nos. 114-32, 114-33, 114-34 &114-35 ('28 &'40)
	List of Parts for Nos. 95-1, 95-2 &95-10 to 95-12
	List of Parts for Nos. 240w1, 240w2 &240w4 (1947-'53 &'54)

The following look the same as above, except covers are white:

	For 241-3 machine (1939, '40 &'41)
	for Machine 71-32 (1942)	
	Singer 175-61 (1940 &'41)
	Singer 31-15 (1936 &'39)

SINGER green cover manuals, 8.5" x 8.25"

	Instruct. &adj. manual for high speed zigzag lock stitching
	sewing machines, 107w1, 107w3 &107w5
	451k21 &451k25 - single rotary thread take up machine
	143w2 &143w3 (1914 thru 1940)
	175-62 and 175-63  (1958)
	246-20 two needles/two looper machine (1954)
	410w10, 410w19, 410w20, 410w110 &410w111 (1915 thru 1949)
	71-30 to 71-47 (1938)
	300w101, 300w201 &300w401 (1938)  (1 copy &1 copy 1958)
           300w103 &300w203 (1958)
	400w11, 400w12, 400w14, 400w15, 400w30, 400w31, 400w35 &400w36
	     (1914 thru 1953)
	Class 241 (1914 thru 1941) says:max. speed of machine is 5000 stitches
	       per minute!!
	11W1, 151w2,&151w3 Unison feed (1914 thru '37)
	Class 240W (1953)
	Class 17 cylinder bed, oscillating long beak shuttle
	114-27 to 114-41 Single thread chain stitch (1936)
	Class 52 single thread chain stitch (1958)		

	Adjusters Manual for Singer 240K12 &24K13 Single thread chainstitch
More Singer Manuals:
	Sionger Fashion Mate Model 360 (1975)
	Stylist Zig Zag Model 513 (2 copies)	 	
	Instruction booklet for Model 247
	Instruction booklet for Model 533 (1976)
	Instruction book for Model 478 (1968)
	Instructions for using Singer SM Model
	#920 (2 copies)

Instructions for Using Singer Sewing Machines
	A Manual of Family Sewing Machines &attachments,
	Specially prepared for students in schools &colleges (1963) 3 copies

Singer Sewing Machine Model 337 (1965)
Singer Touch Mate Model 347 (1967)	
Servicing instructions for machines 251-11, 251-12, 251-13  &251-21
A fold out brochure for 300W101 showing all parts by picture on one 
	side and pn's on the other side (1964)
	MANUALS FOR  "Touch &Sew" Machines:
Model 635 (1968) (2 copies)
Model 645 (1969)
Touch &Sew Deluxe Zig Zag (1964)
Touch &Sew Special ZigZag Model 603 (1963) 2 copies
Touch &Sew Deluxe ZigZag Model 620 (1966)
Touch &Sew Deluxe ZigZag Model 640 (2 copies) (1969)
Touch &Sew Deluxe Zig Zag Model 645 (1969)
Touch &Sew Special ZigZag Model 648 (1969)

Singer Deluxe ZigZag Sewing Machine 680OU (1966) 2 copies
Singer Model 744/764 (1971)

Singer Futura Model 900 (1973)
Singer Futura Model 920 (1974)

Singer Service Manual &Parts List for 451K41, K45 &451K145 (1963)
          (2 copies)

"	"	"		"   for 29k71, k72 &k73 (1957)

Singer Merritt Model 1862
Other Brands:

Consew Model 30
Consew Model 260
Consew Model 220
Consew Model 251 blindstitch machine

Reece Series S2 machine (11/1968)
Reece Series S2 buttonhole machine (11/1952)
Reece S2 (1957)
Reece Series 101 Buttonhole machine (9/1967)

Pegasus Industrial Overlock Machines Model DCR601
Columbia Class 300 Blindstitch Machine
Willcox &Gibbs 500 machine
Willcox &Gibbs New 5463 High Speed double needle chainstitch machine
Willcox &Gibbs Flatlock 1310
"	"     " Superlock 820
"	"     " Serge &Seam 1420
"	"     " Rotalock 1000

Necchi 544
Necchi Julia 534
Necchi 523
Necchi 554
Necchi BF Supernova
Necchi Automatic supernova Ultra
Necchi Lelia 512/513
Necchi automatic supernova ultra, Mark 2
Nelco Model LYRA R-1000
Pfaff 238
Pfaff single needle flat bed &two needle flat bed
     Models 141, 143, 1454, 153, 155, 143-5, 143-5-225
     and Models 142, 144, 146, 148
Morse Fotomatic III ZigZag Model 4300
Morse EUR4
Morse Mudel EUR4 (second one)
Adler 101 automatic
Adler 153
Fleetwood Deluxe
White Model 734
Lemdeko Select &New
J.C. Penney
Emdeko ZigZag	

Chandler Models 401, 461, 471, 472P &475P (VERY OLD MANUAL)

Kenmore Model 71
Lady Kenmore Model 89
How to use Kenmore zig zag attachments
How to use Kenmore attachments
How to use your Kenmore sewing machine
	*NOTE: THESE 5 manuals are quite old; cannot find any 
		dates noted on them
Kenmore Electric Rotary Sewing Machine (also quite old)

Kenmore Model 1320 Machine
Kenore Model 1601 Machine

Kenmore convertible Model 1680

ELNA - this one is OLD!!  First page reads, " from Elna-transforma to the
Elna supermatic...should you desire to do regular or decorative  work with
the greatest of 
ease, have your Elna-Transforma converted into an Elna-Supermatic

Elna Supermatic
Elna Automatic with free-arm and for Elna Plana Automatic (1965)
Elna Supermatic with free-arm and for Elna Plana Supermatic (1966)3 COPIES

"	"	"	"	"	"	"	"        (1981)
"	"	"	"	"	"	"	"         (1960)
"	""	"	"	"	"	"	"         (1962)
Elna discs 5 book (1952)

Vigorelli ZZ/A Robot Model (very old manual)
German Model 190
Riccar Sewing Machine Warranty 1950

JC Penney Penncrest Model 2601
JC Penney Penncrest Model 2200

Borletti Model 1100S, 1101S &1102S (very old manual)

There are more, but I'm tired of typing for now!!


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I finally got to the Ohio State Fair yesterday.  Got some orange oil. 
Thanks, Lydia, for telling me where to find it.  Saw all the quilts.  I
went to the building where they sell advertising and looked for Singer
stuff.  One dealer said he had some Singer ads but someone came in and
bought it all.  O.K.  which one of you guys was it?

Chris, send me your snail mail address.  I want to order the even feed
foot at the special price for us fanatics.



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I found toy sewing machine heaven right here in Oregon!  At the 
Lafayette School House Antique Mall, I saw no fewer than 13 toy 
machines.  They ranged from a somewhat rusted Stitchwell with no 
box for $95 to a Muller Model 8 and some type of Casige for $395 

No, I didn't buy anything because toy SM's aren't my interest, but 
Lafayette would be a good vacation spot for toy SM lovers.  (It's 
also in wine country and close to the coast if you need an excuse to 
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Every Saturday PBS has a show featuring collectors.  One week it was Betty
Boop collectibles, another cowboy collectibles, etc. I keep thinking we
should have a sm collector featured.  So who out there has a great
collection and wants me to send in their name for a future feature?????
Sorry, Graham and Maggie, it is for American collectors only...

At the flea market today I bought a toy Vulcan and passed on a $5 Domestic
portable.  The latter was probably a dumb move, but it was so heavy and I
was so tired!

I did purchase for $2 a silverware tray, plastic.  The kind you put in a
drawer to keep your utensils all organized.  It has the extra sliding piece
on top for greater capacity.  Why did I buy it?  For when I clean machines
and take off parts and screws, etc.  Trying to remember which screw goes
with which part can be a challenge, so this way each will have its own
compartment to wait patiently in!

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Subject: 450 Miles Yard Sale

Hi Guys,

I got to go on a few of the 450 miles of yard sale this weekend.  I was
hoping for a Featherweight, but didn't see one.

However,  did find a Singer treddle.  Both the cabinet and machine looked in
really good shape.  It has a little wheel on the right front (I assume to
fill the bobbin).  The most amazing thing was a presser foot KNEE LIFT.

I thought Bernina had the patten!  Singer had it a long time ago, evidently.

My question is:  What would be a good price for this machine.  There was a
drawer with a tiny little booklet and various spools of thread and
miscellaneous objects.  The cabinet had a drop leaf on the left side.  As I
said, it looked very good.

Beverly in Georgia.


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Subject: toy machines

Hi everyone,

Just a little question.  I was at an antique mall today and saw a Necchi
toy machine.  It was in a green zippered case.  The machine was a crank and
sort of reminded me of the Singer tan machine made in Canada.  The machines
was light green and was pretty heavy.  Does anyone know about these toys?
It was priced at $45 and the leather strap for the case was broken off.
The base of the machine had a few nicks in the paint.  I didn't even notice
if there was a needle in it but the crank worked fine.  Any help would be



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A friend of mine has a FW that has silver decals instead of gold.  It's got
the lift off tray for the box too.  Is this unusual for it to have silver??
 I've never seen one before.

Terri Janson in Michigan


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Hi All!
I guess things are going to get rather dull around here with Graham =
gone.  I do hope he enjoys his visit, and has a Happy Birthday.

To Lydia;
Loved your 401 story.  I tried to e-mail you an epistle concerning the =
401, hate to bore the whole group with my blathering....but it kept =
bouncing.  Please e-mail me at jeloupot@myriad.net, so I can try a =

To Chris:
There is a  treadle machine being sold now as a Model 15 "type" machine =
made in Japan.  Look on the front of the machine....What's that? A =
PLASTIC knob????  It is junk, as is the cabinet.  It would probably make =
a nice window dressing in a fabric shop, but doesn't compare to the old =
ones for sewing on. I would hate for someone who wanted one nice  =
treadle machine for their collection to spend their money on one of =

RE: Which machine to save from the fire;  I've forgotten who posted this =
question; what great fodder for conversation!  If I could only keep one =
machine it would have to be the 401 because it's so versitile, but my =
favorite machine for sewing on is the 301.  I love my FW's, (one pre =
war, one post war and one white) and love to sew on them too, but the =
bulk of my sewing is dresses for little girls and quilts for babies that =
I machine quilt, and I fear burning them up!  I also love my 2 =
handcranks, and love to sew on them too, but I don't want my right arm =
to become larger than my left arm. ( If I had to choose one to take to  =
desert island it would be one of those tho!).....I just don't think it's =
possible to love any one the best... that's why we all have so many!

To Beth with the 80 year old aunt with steep stairs;  why not try to get =
her a 66 or a 301?  Either would be cheaper than a Featherweight, but =
still not take up a lot of space, and would be dependable and make that =
famous Singer stitch.  (Gee, I hope it's ok to say that on this list =
).Unless, of course when your aunt is through with it you want to =
start a museum......(I'm joking).

To Millie;  I hope you allow enough time in your journey to stop at =
every thrift store between Cape Cod and Florida, and I hope your =
daughter has a sense of humor!  Drive carefully.

-Phyllis in Texas


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Happy Birthday to you, happy birthday to you...happy birthday dear Graham, 
happy birthday to you!  And many, many more....(are you a baby 
boomer?)...today is Bill Clinton and Tipper Gore's birthday also, altho' she 
hastened to mention to Bill as she congratulated him that they did NOT share 
the same YEAR!

Hope you have a wonderful day!  Mary from New Jersey, where the weather is 


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thank you for sending me the info.  have 3 featherweights, only one a
bargain.  love them all and have them in use.  a walking foot for the fw.
 how and where can i get one.momlang


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Dear George:

Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you...happy birthday, dear George, 
happy birthday to you!  Boy, 80 years old and on the Net...you are a very 
cool cyberpops!  I've got my mom busy surfing the net too....we'll show all 
those kids whats what!  Keep on surfin'!

Mary Lehrhoff in Summit New Jersey, where it is an absolutely gorgeous 
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Subject: FW take up lever?

Hello Fellow Fanatics,

I have a friend who is trying to locate a take up lever for a FW.  Can anyone
supply me with information on how to locate one?

I went antiquing this weekend.  Forced to go by my 10 year old son who loves
antiques and 'junque'.  I didn't want to go but he moped so much that I
finally gave in.  Boy am I glad!!  I found one of the little oval green
Singer oil cans!.  No dents or rust.  A few nicks  and scratches on the
paint.  And it has the little screw on top!  This one seems smaller than the
previous one I had.  It's only 1 1/3 fl. ounces and the spout is set to one
side at the top.  It seems to be weighted on that side.  Perhaps something to
help the oil come out easier?  Can anyone enlighten me on this little cutie?

Looking forward to your help.

Helen in Maryland who will now let her son drag her to any antique shops.


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l.mclaughlin wrote:
> The local Singer repairman said that the Egyptian decoration
> was in honor of the opening of the Suez canal, but I don't
> think this is correct.  The machine dates from about 1906
> according to its serial number and a friend who is a history
> buff said the canal opened in 1869.  Does anyone know the
> significance of the Egyptian decorations? The machine is a model 27.

I don't know the significance, but I do know that the "Spinx" decoration 
was designed ca. 1900 by Philip Diehl. I assume this is the same 
gentleman whom Singer named their Diehl motor division after. 

Happy Featherweighting,


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I was going to an estate sale with a beautiful big old victorian house that 
I was dying to see and explore, and on the way, I naturally spied a yard 
sale....my brakes skidded to a stop, and I hopped out to go and 
look...pretty house, yukky stuff..until I saw the familiar Singer face...it 
was a nice model 15 in a cabinet with a bench...it was only $30.  (See, 
there are plenty of them around and for reasonable prices!  This was an 8) I 
did not plan nor want to buy another cabinet model and not a 15, but I 
looked in the bench seat, just to see what was there.  It had all the 
attachments (or a lot of them), buttonholer in a black case,  and..........a 
number of the Singer books that I've been lusting for............I took them 
to the Lady of The Sale and asked if she would sell them to me, as they were 
not connected to the machine....she was just about to say yes when a foreign 
speaking lady and her son? said they wanted to buy the machine, and they 
wanted all the stuff that was in the seat (it was hard to understand them.) 
 The lady said she was sorry and put the bookets back in the machine..(the 
manual was in the cabinet, I wasn't bothering with that, it should always go 
with the machine)....I told the people these were extra booklets that were 
not part of the machine, and I collected them...but no dice...they knew I 
wanted them, therefore, it probably made them more valuable to them...I 
asked if they read English...they certainly didn't convince me....oh 
well...I even offered them money to buy just a couple of them, but no, they 
wouldn't go for it....alas is me....it really broke my heart...there were a 
number of those lovely bigger 8 1/2 x 11 sizes of singer booklets....sob, 
sob.  Oh well.  I was kicking myself saying I should have just bought the 
machine and then sold it to the people for less money....I wasn't fast 
enough on the draw, however...

Then I got a call from an old Italian lady in Morris Plains who was moving 
and selling either/or her 403a or Vigorelli (also a Singer- blue).  (She 
said she'd keep the one that didn't sell.)  She wanted $60 for the 403a, and 
I offered $30.  It was about a 6 on the scale with all the attachments....a 
good bit of wear on the bed portion.  The head was in pretty good condition, 
and it sewed like a dynamo...she called me back 2 days later and I trekked 
back to her place to get it...she wanted $10 for the carrying case, so I 
went for it...now the reason I'm going on about this is, I think the main 
reason I wanted it is ........that I Had The Manual already.....(and no 
machine).  She didn't have hers, said if she found it, she would let me 
know...anyway, I had one,so I brought it home to clean up and play with...

It sews very nicely.  The only problem is that I can not get the tension 
(the bottom one) right.  I tinkered and tinkered (turning the screw, etc., 
the number on top,) and it's better, but has a long way to go to be the way 
it should be....the top stitching is so nice it looks almost like a quilting 
stitch.  Really a nice stitch.  Also, the 2 prong plug for the power is a 
bit bent, so it's a little touchy, altho' it works.  The bobbin winder also 
leaves something to be desired.  It requires playing with.  I like to sew 
fast, but this little Adelaide (that was lady's name, I think...her English 
was a trifle hard for me to comprehend) goes about 95 mph..it's hard to slow 
her down.  I would just give up on her and sell her if the stitch wasn't so 
nice....so I'll keep tinkering...til it's in A-1 working order......the 
mania that gets us SM fanatics is sorta awesome, isn't it?  There really 
isn't anyone else other than the FWFs in this digest who seem to truly 
comprehend and understand....I know my personal list of machines is far 
behind.  I have to really bring it up to date, but I guess I'm 
scared.....I'm also waiting for a 401 to arrive from Illinois any minute 
now...a few short years ago, I thought all the models 400 with the pinkish 
tan  colour were absolutely ugly and wouldn't even look at them....now I 
have (almost) the 401, 301, 403a, 431G, and 500a...and this is the machine I 
thought was so ugly!  I remember when I hated the idea of top loading bobbin 
and none of them bother me now (except the funny shuttle bullet type ones). 
  I keep swearing, no more....

I bought this very interesting soft cover book at Barnes &Noble for $14.95 
for repairing sm's.  It was 1st published in 1984 by a guy in Arkansas. 
 It's very interesting and goes into a lot of detail and highlights a number 
of Singer parts and numbers....if anyone is interested, I'll post the 
complete name and author and how to get it...I certainly think it was a good 
investment.  It shows all sorts of parts and numbers, and especially 
singer...these kinds of books are hard to find, and when I find them, I grab 
them up...my copy was the only one the store had...there was a coupon in the 
back tho' indicating they would be very happy to ship to anyone who wanted 

When I got the 403, I got a big box of attachments.  I think some of the 
cams are duplicates, so if anyone would be interested in some cams, let me 
know what you want, and I'll check.

I've sent a 301 to myself from Ohio to New Jersey and insured it, sent it 
priority rather than parcel post.  It cost me $22.00, but I packed it 
myself....so on a comparable level, how much would Mail Boxes charge for 
about the same thing?  I'm wondering for the future of sending, it's such a 
pain to wrap these little babies up, but how much would it cost to have it 
done?  If anyone has any clues as to cost?

To Chris from Stepping Stones:

My "new" 403 needs 4 of those thingys for the feet.  The ones that are on it 
now have leprosy or something...also, the 2 prong thing is fine except that 
the prongs are slightly bent.  Would it be harmful to try and bend them back 
a bit, since it's a trifle tedious to wedge into the holes...mechanically 
and otherwise, the foot pedal is fine except for this...and a price 
question, how much for the feet thingys and in case I need need a new bobbin 
winder, how much would that be?


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From: Mary Rothenbuhler 
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Subject: RE: 66 not a 99
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Just thought you'd like to know that the 99 I thought I bought at the yard 
sale Sat. turned out to be a 1929  66.  So now I have a 66 in my 
collection.  I hauled it out to show DH when he got home Sun. night from 
camping, and saw immediately that it was NOT a 99, my shock at finding a 
black 301 must have caused temporary Brain Malfunction.  So now I have to 
find a 201, for the right price of course.  It's the thrill of the hunt.

Mary in Idaho


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Hi All...

For  Susan  in  Phoenix...  The  'basket  case'  66  is yours for the shipping 
charges.  Figure  on  $25...  I'll include the manuals (IB and Service Manual) 

For  Marilyn...  Snail  Mail  Address:  Chris @ Stepping Stones Quilts, PO Box 
24060, St. Simons Is., GA 31522

Dat's it for now...


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On Thursday I brought home my repaired FW.  I had purchased it for $5
with broken takeup lever, no bobbin case, no face plate and no belt.  I
was able to locate a face plate from a fellow FWF and my repairman was
able to get the rest. I brought it to him on Monday night and and he
said it would be ready in a week.  Well, he called me Wednesday morning
and said it was ready.  I commented on how quick he was and he said he
needed a break and it was more fun to work on those old machines!  I
think I've found a good man.  The machine sews great now.  This is my
first FW and I'm delighted.  It did not come with a case.  He said he
could get me a reproduction case whiech is covered in black vinyl for
abut $35.  Does anyone know anything aout such cases?
  Terri Santa Coloma in New Orleans


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Clay,  I would think that the Vaseline would break down in the heat put 
out by the machine a heck of alot faster than the grease.  Jim uses some 
type of grease that they use on vaccum cleaners.

Debbie at QPs in NJ


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Jim and I were heading home from a loooooong day at the shop, this after 
getting up at 5am to drive to the airport to discover the boys plane was 
delayed three hours . . . . somedays it doesn't pay to get out of bed!, 
anyway, the shop is only 5 minutes from the house and we pass a "junk" 
used furniture store on the way.  Jim is driving and I always look at the 
front of the store just to see what he has piled on the sidewalk, as Jim 
is wizzing by at 40mph, I spy a bentwood case.  "Wait, I yell, thats an 
old sewing machine case!!!  Forget it, theyre closed he says.  Sure 
enough, they are and the case is sitting outside  . . . . . .  I think 
about that stupid machine exposed to the elements all night.  I drive 
back to our shop the next morning, late as usual with just minutes to get 
to the shop and get it opened, and sure enough the case is still there, 
but I don't have time to stop and look.  I call Jim from the shop and 
tell him to run down there and check it out but our 11 year old daughter 
is still sleeping and he won't leave her until she wakes up, she picks 
this of all mornings to sleep till 11:30.   Jim brings the machine to the 
shop at noon, the case won't open he says, no key.  "We don't need a key 
I exclaim, I know from reading FWF you can open it with a screw driver!!! 
Sure enough, the screwdriver works and the beat up case opens to reveal 
what I think is a 127K in pretty good shape, about a 7 or an 8.  No 
throat plate and worse no knee lever.  He paid $10 sight unseen, hes 
getting into these old SMs almost as much as me. 
 Are these the machines you can't get the knee lever for ?????????  He 
has my 66 humming and I would really like to get this one to hum also if 
possible.  He is going to check out his sources tomorrow for the plate 
and the lever but I thought I would check here to see if you all knew 
anything.  I am going to call Singer tomorrow for a birthdate and see if 
they will send me a manual.

Debbie at QPs in NJ


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I have the name and phone number of a gal who is desperately seeking a bobbin
case for her Featherweight.  Please e-mail me directly if you have such since
she does not have an e-mail address and I don't always get to read FWF
everday.   THANKS in advance for your help!      Carol


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Hi everyone,
I just wanted to tell you how much I enjoy reading FWF and although I'm not
yet an owner (I only have a Touch n'Sew), I think I'm hooked.  

Thought you might be interested in knowing that my friend in Resolute Bay NT
Canada has a beautiful black FW.  Check your maps.  Do you think this might
be the most northerly one in the world?  

I discovered it by accident while visiting her - was telling her about my
search for a FW and she said "wait a minute", went into her closet and
pulled out a lovely one, complete with what looked like all the goodies, and
before I could say a word she said   "One like this? ...... NO YOU CANNOT
HAVE IT !"   I could have cried.  There's no sentimental attachment - she
only uses it rarely, when she needs to mend, and got it many years ago
because it was small and wouldn't take up much space.  I didn't get the sex
or serial number.  I know I could give it a more loving home.  

Oh well ....... thanks for listening,
Linda in Yellowknife NT Canada,  where the leaves are beginning to turn
yellow and the cranberries are ripening.


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Dear Maryjo:  it's so exciting to read from someone in Russia.  (My office 
mate next to me here is Russian, her dad was born in Moscow....but she 
speaks no Russian, unfortunately.)

When I saw your serial number, I called up Singer and got through to them. 
 They said there has to be another letter with the A...you said "A1072081." 
 Would you double check and I can find out what it's date of birth was and 
exactly what model it is for you....it sounds very old, with the wooden 
crank...so if you can check on the serial number, very carefully, once it's 
ascertained just what model you have, then the manual can be found.  Singer 
will send you a free manual (copy) of the very old machines.  They are not 
usually that terriffic, but better than nothing...I don't know for sure if 
they will send to Russia, but it's worth a try.   Where you say the manual 
that you have says 27 or 28, it could be 127 or 128...I'm not sure, but I 
looked in this little book I have and it mentions a model 27 but says made 
in USA with a long shuttle, 1899/1913...no mention of 28...so who knows?  I 
have a 128 made 9/22/25...

I think discovering the Internet and all the digests and information is one 
of the greatest things that's ever happened...it seems that anything a 
person could be interested in will show up with other people who are also 
interested.....it's so nice..

I enjoyed your posting very much.  Russia is one of the places I've always 
wanted to go to.  I've always been interested in Russian history, especially 
the Romanovs.  I would love to see the Singer Building in St. Petersburg, 
and even more, see all of St. Petersburg...I'm so glad it's not Leningrad 
anymore...what an ugly name that was...

I post to the Bernina Fan Club, and also cruise the quilt forums 
occassionally on CompuServe, altho' I'm giving it up on the 2nd of 
September, staying with AOL instead (I like theirs better)....I can't do 
them all, even tho' I wish I could....(on AOL which is on home computer, I'm 
McLehr@AOL.com.  You can see my work user id from the header, I assume but 
it's:  mary.lehrhoff@ussu.mhs.ciba.com.

I guess you've picked up on the idiocentric behavior of us SM - FWF's 
regarding sewing machines....it's a strange but fun addiction...I'm not sure 
how many SMs I have at present, but it's inching up close to 30....I have to 
start reducing my collection....I keep saying that...

Definitely get the Nancy Sbero-Johnson book.  And she will have a new one 
coming out in November (so they say....originally, it was due for March, so 
who knows?)  It's an excellent book for FeatherWeight Fanatics, naturally, 
but also good for anyone interested in Singer SMs...there are books out 
there, but you have to search....used book stores, surf the net. and there 
are "book finders" to locate any thing that's locatable..

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Kenmore zigzagg attachment (part #1645) - plastic case, manual, 
edgestitcher.  Made by Greist, but name on attachment is "Kenmore."  
I think this was made in the 40's.  $20 + $3 shipping.

Domestic buttonholer - 5 cams, pink plastic case with crack in lid, 
feed cover + screw, no manual.  Some paint wear on top of 
buttonholer.  Looks like it would fit the same machine that would 
take the zigzagger.  $8 + $3 shipping.

Instructions for rotary hemstitcher for White or similar machines.  I 
think this is from 1947. Also, hemstitcher for White or similar 
machines.  Unfortunately, the instructions are not for this 
hemstitcher because they attach to the machine differently (though I 
think it would work on the same machine shown in the instructions), 
and the hemstitcher doesn't come with the special feed cover plate.  
Will send both for cost of shipping $3.

Sharon Reese


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Help!  My daughter (8) and I share the use of our featherweight.  She
uses it when we are at home and I use it when we travel.  I had a
problem with it on the most recent trip (actually remember the problem
from earlier when I helped her at home).  The problem is with winding
the bobbin.  The bobbin holder goes around, but the bobbin doesn't. 
That means that no thread would wind on the bobbin automatically.  I
ended up balancing the bobbin on the very end of the pin, holding the
thread from the spool between my fingers, talking nicely to the machine,
not moving a muscle, and hoping for the best as I coaxed the thread onto
the bobbin.  There must be an easier way?!  What do I need to do in
order to get the bobbin winder mechanism to work properly?  Help, please
from anyone who knows these machines better that I do, which is
practically everyone out there!  Thanks.



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Jill Long, I am holding the item you asked for.  Please email me asap. 

Sally Ickes, I have been emailing you also and getting no response. Please
email me. 

Thanks. Millie

Millie MacKenzie in CT and Cape Cod, MA

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Hi Everyone, 

Chat tonight, 7pm edt  http://quilt.com/Chat  or Sue@ttsw.com

Sue T

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 21:50:17 -0700
From: vredevoe@ucla.edu (Lawrence A. Vredevoe MD,PhD)
Subject: explaining surplus of machines to DH

To Diana M : Good to hear there is at least one male FW machine out there.
If there are more, it might explain why some FW-ers seem to have
collections that grow by leaps and bounds. Perhaps I need another one...I
could always say my first one was pg when I got her....Her name is Glenda
the Good, btw. Marilyn V

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 00:44:00, -0500
Subject: Singer Store Sign Anyone?

        Found a neat SINGER item Saturday.  If it wasn't so darn BIG, it'd
be in my sewing room now!  Dealer's tag says it was the original sign for
the Singer dealer's store here in South Bend, IN.  It is made of enamelware
-- white background with Large black letters....SINGER.  The sign measures
30" high by 60" wide.  No depth to it, just the enamel "plate".  Asking
$95.00, although shipping the oversize pkg. may add up.  Anyone interested?
 Let me know... Chris Deitchley

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 01:16:14 -0400
From: Clay &Shelly Leihy 
Subject: 401 cams for trade

We have some duplicate cams with our 401A, and would like to know if
anyone in a similar situation would like to trade. They are 1, 4, two
5's, 11, and 16. I think most of these are actually Touch-n-Sew cams, as
they have that extra little round hole (except 11), but they work great
in the 401.

Clay &Shelly
(see our machines at http://www.k2nesoft.com/~clay-l/shelly.html)

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 00:55:22 -0700
From: Bobbie 
Subject: Sewing/FW  Post

Hey ya'll....I don't know if any of you have dealt with or heard of Bette
Feinstein......she's on the
Internet and has a place called "Hard to Find Needlework Books"....her
homepage is at:


anyways...in my last order from her, I see listed:

        Student's Manual of Machine Sewing by Singer, 1939, 60 pages, fully
        Her Order No. for this book is 12083 and price is $20

Usual disclaimer here, just like what the lady offers....

If you want to email your order her address is:  hardtofind@needleworkbooks.com

be sure to tell her "bobbie sent ya".  

I have a couple copies of this book and it's really a neat addition to my
sewing machine

Just thought ya might like to get your own copy too.  I have no idea how
many copies she
has; sometimes she has many, other times, a single copy!

Take care

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 10:41:47 -0400
From: BaldGene@aol.com
Subject: FWFanatics


I'm a new Fanatic.  I enjoy all the news and info very much.  Thanks to
Hickory Hills for sponsoring such an interesting group.

I have 3 FW 221s, '36, '48, &'55 and a Singer FW table in very good
condition excepting the hole cover is missing.  Anyone have an extra hole

I also have a #20toy Singer and a Gateway Jr. #148.  I'm interested in
acquiring other toy Singers.

One of my FW cases has a basd odor from mildew.  I've tried all the usual
treatments but the odor persists.  Any one have a solution?  

Also one of the FW cases has the black paper missing from the bottom.  What
can I get to replace it?

I'll appreciate any help you can give me.

Jean, in Florida Panhandle.  (I use DH's sign on name and AOL address.)

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 11:34:20 -0500
From: puck@midwest.net
Subject: Auction results

I had planned on sending one message to the people who had specific
requests and then after I had time to inventory a pick up bed full of stuff
and junk sned individual messages.  Eventually I was going to post to FWF
and give a summary of fun.  I have now found out that Eudora 1) does not
allow cc: the way I thought it would, 2) pulling a list of messages with
name and net address has it's own way of functioning (not the way I
expected), 3) in my attempts to download I have created some mighty strange
files, 4) the multiple downloads from the Eudora web site has a users
manual that I cannot open without updating and I do not know if I want to
do that, 5) in downloading I lost all the messages including addresses and
could not get the stuff back into address book, and on and on.  I have the
info but had to enter all of it back into system by hand.  Computers are
really great means of saving time.  With the learning curve I have I have
no idea if anything went out to anybody.

Here is a true tale.

Late wed I had a call on my machine from an auctioneer who said there was a
backyard shed full of Singer parts.  He did not know what the family was
going to do with them but they did not want to mess with auctioning all
those small pieces.  "Oh, by the way he inherited the business and had sold
off has store front in 1980 and planned on repairing old machines for
something to do.  He passed away in 1982 and I don't know what is there."
Can you'all imagine what this did to my mind?

To try to be sure I got everyones e-mail I was up until 2a on Saturday.
Slept until 6a and fired up the computer.  Had intended to be gone by 7a
but as usual did not hit the road until 8a for an hour and 15 min drive to
a 9a auction.  Lots of Singer parts and pieces all around the auction but
no shed full of parts.  The auctioneer said the family had sold all that to
the local shop.  Found one of two daughters who told me that in 1980 the
parts inventory was valued at something over $10,000 and had taken $200
because no one seemed interested in the inventory so they had taken what
they could get.  After they picked me up off the ground and found the
smelling salts for me I started talking with them.  I would guess that the
daughters were very involved with the store.  They really understood
repairs and pricing.  I am trying to get in touch with the man who
purchased the inventory to see if he wants to make a quick profit.

The daughters began bringing Singer items out of the house that they had
not planned on selling at auction because they had an idea of the value.  I
did get monogrammers, bags of feet, rufflers, etc.  The only machines were
two 66's, a 99, a Touch n' Sew, and two FW.  The 66's and the 99 were in
consoles.  I got the contents of the drawers.  The two FW's went high for
condition/quality.  For $150 someone got a case with one latch and a head
(no bobbin case, attachments, manual, electric foot feed, and well worn
decals.)  I also got two sewing tables (non FW) and the extension table.
Several manuals and a Singer shipping case are now mine.  I do not know
exactly what I have because I was buying in piles.  Bought two Maxfield
Parrish prints, blue glass, several occupied Japan miniatures.  So now the
fun begins of trying to identify the Griest and Singer bits and pieces.
Also both daughters have promised to contact me with things to good to
throw away that they had taken home.  One is a "really old machine."  I
really want to see that one.

Anyone waiting for e-mail from me telling them if I bought something for
them will have to wait a little longer.  School started this week so I am
helping my spouse get set up.  I drag her around during her summer vacation
so I feel this is pay back.


From: "l.mclaughlin" 
Subject: How Does One Prevent Goldwork Wear on a Collectable Vintage
  Singer Being Used?

My wife has several excellent condition recently acquired Singers and Whites
of the past which may be considered collectable by some.  The problem is:
"how does one use the machine without wearing away the gold decorative
goldwork on the bed of the machine while doing piecing or quilting?
Certainly there is the joy of looking at a pretty machine from the past, but
there is also great pleasure in using it as well.  I am a guitar collector,
so I can empathize with my wife's situation.  

Obviously, one answer is to have a second poor appearance model to use that
functions well mechanically, but does anybody have any ideas as to how to
protect a well-preserved machine from further appearance wear on the goldwork?

I thought of covering the machine's bed with a very thin plastic sheeting of
one sort or another and holding it in place with vinyl sheet refrigerator
magnets, but this has some obvious shortcomings.  For example, the plastic
if left on the machine for awhile might stick to the gold decorations (or
the unit's lacquer/enamel or varnish finish) and peel them off.  I assume
the machines had a layer of clear enamel, lacquer or varnish put on them
after the gold work decals were put into place.  The early machines may have
had a varnish brushed on before spraying finishes became common in
manufacturing. This was true for early automobiles--the paint looked like it
was sprayed on, but actually it was brushed on!!!  Here, this clear lacquer,
enamel or varnish may have worn thin over the years with use, but not so as
to affect goldwork decals yet.

Well, I hope I got the point across. :)  I am sure those of you with very
nice vintage examples might have a similar problem.  If anybody has any
thoughts, I'd appreciate an email from you.

Thank you.


Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 23:43:42 -0400
From: Clay &Shelly Leihy 
Subject: Electrified 66

Just got a 1916 Model 66 ("red-eye") from a local Goodwill. For $25 we
got a 6 or 7 head in a beat-up, fabric covered wood case. Grace has had
an electric motor and light added somewhere along the way (neat one,
with the T-shaped foot pedal), cleaned up and sews beautifully. Question
is, when going at faster speeds, the stitch gets loopy on the bottom.
It's perfect at slower speeds. Is this because she's only designed to go
so fast, or is something wrong? Also, Singer is sending us a free 66-1
manual. Is there any difference?

Clay &Shelly
FWFanatics@ttsw.com - Singer phone # 1-800-877-7762
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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 96 15:22:24 -0500
From: Featherweight Fanatics 
Subject: FW Fanatics 8/21/96
To: Sue@quilt.com
X-Mailer: LeeMail 2.0.5

Date:    96-08-20 17:10:34 EDT
From:    BSawyer631

    Well, I did buy the machine after all.  Said I wouldn't go over $100 for
another machine for a while, but the owner had already dropped from $150 to
$125 for a "Sale" price, and said $115 was as low as he could go.  I wanted
it, so .... it's here!  The manual says it is an I.F.  Oscillating Shuttle
Sewing Machine.  The manual has darkened considerably with age, and is in
fragile condition.  I'd be glad to photocopy if someone needs one. (Printed
1892 -say "For addresses of 534 Branches in Great Britain and Ireland, see
pages 22-25,"  but I have through page 20 only.)  Singer dates the machine
3/19/94, Scotland.
   As far as I can tell, the attachments with it, which are in good and NOT
RUSTY! condition are: 4 hemmers, 1 binder, 1 tuck marker, 1 quilter, 1
braider, 1 straight guide and screw, another large thumb screw, a smaller
thumb screw, 4 extra bobbins (gee - the manual says I should have 5! ), 1
extra thread take-up spring, a green Singer package with 2 needles, and a few
other items I cannot identify.  The cardboard box at one time was white with
a brown top - but it is now in pieces.  Also has a narrow cardboard tube with
fine thread on it, an extra spool holder, and the wooden peg that supports
the machine when tilted back for oiling.
    Have spent considerable time trying to make the blackened Singer logo
look gold, and it is about 90% there.  Howard Feed and Wax seemed to dissolve
the old wax/varnish, a soft toothbrush (child's) with Metal Gleam also helped
some stubborn spots.  The gold decorations are also looking much better.  The
wood table, single drawer, and coffin case top, which I guess is walnut, not
maple after all, were very rough and dry. Orange Oil cleaned the case well.
 The table has had a couple applications of the Feed and Wax, but it will
need several more.
  I'm glad I got it.  It's beginning to really look like something! 
   Barb in Texas

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 09:52:52 -0400
From: QuiltN@aol.com
Subject: a fw for me

I'm driving to Maine this weekend to my Mom's to pick up her sister's
featherweight. Her sister is in her 80's and couldn't find anyone in her
family who wanted the fw(silly people) so my Mom said I would give it a good
home. YES!!! It's at least 60 years old , has a case but no attachments but
it's mine. I'm very excited. My 7yo son said since I was getting a new
machine he thought he should have my big one, A Bernina1260. NOT!! I do have
a 1948 fw that I got from a friend a few years ago for 125$ but the
sentimental value of my Aunt's is neat. My mother had one too but she sold
hers but I know the woman and I know it has a good home. My payment for the
fw is to make a lap quilt with pansies in it for my aunt. What fun!!!  I've
taught my son to sew on the fw and he loves it. Little boys and machines,
what a great combination.
     Got to run!
          Nancy in warm and beautiful Hanover, NH

Subject: Re: FW take up lever
Date: 21 Aug 96 08:50:41 -0500
From: tsanta@nomvs.lsumc.edu

> I have a friend who is trying to locate a take up lever for a FW.  Can anyone
> supply me with information on how to locate one?
Helen, I just had my take up lever on my FW replaced.  My repairman used
one from a 301, he told me that this machine had several components that
are interchangable with FW's.  Hope this helps.
  Terri Santa Coloma in New Orleans

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 18:48:52 -0800
From: corbin 
Subject: toy sm's spotted

For anyone interested in toy sewing machines, heres an address of an 
auction in Va.  It has 4-5 of them listed.  


I have no interest in this company.  For my own information, is saying 
this a requirement?  A rule of "netiquette"?

Sharon in AK

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 22:58:45 -0400
From: Millie MacKenzie 
Subject: misc, and new items for sale

Jill Long, I am holding the item you asked for.  Please email me asap. 

For your shopping pleasure, below are my latest finds.  Prices include
shipping except as indicated otherwise. Please, email me directly. 

Thanks. Millie

C49 - Singer toy machine.  Brown color with gold trademark seal. #29962 -
made in Great Britain.  Hand crank turns but needle bar does not move - it
looks like a rod/??? might be missing. No box or accessories. Good
condition.  Pedestal base is 4.5 x 3 inches.  Pedestal is 2 x 2 and has gold
Singer logo. Machine base is 5.5 x 3. Machine is 4 long,  high and 1.5 wide.
Has a cloth guide w/screw.  Hand crank is tan with black know handle and
lovely swirly, cutout design in wheel. Guess a couple of lbs in weight.
Email me for details.

C50 - Vulcan toy machine, made in England.  No box or manual. Appears quite
old.  Identifying marks: Vulcan label on front center base. Black with gold
stripes on vertical part of arm. Three gold squares touching and on point in
center of arm. Email me for details.

C51 - Old Singer sewing machine bottle - no cork. Empty. About 5 inches
tall. $30 includes shipping.

C52 - Singer thread cutter and threader.  Part # 121634. This is the Swiss
Army Knife-like item recently discussed. $15 includes shipping.

C53 - Package of Rice's pure dye waxed silk for hand sewing.  Size A. White.
Package held 900 yards and most of it is still in the opened package. $12
includes shipping.

C54 - Greist attachments for top-clamping machine. In black metal box with
purple paper lining. Includes 8 attachments as well as cloth guide/screw and
quilting guide. Old manual included but in rough condition; says  'All
machines manufactured since January 1, 1916 take parts illustrated above'.
$12 includes shipping.

C55 - Greist attachments for ROTARY machines, side clamping.  11
attachments, also  quilting guide, cloth guide/screw. Also has rare
'attachment foot' for attachments requiring this device. $20 includes shipping.

C56 - Large silver screwdriver, as in the FW set.  $7 includes shipping. 

C57 - 33 1/3 RPM record in sleeve. Souvenir record of SOMETHING UNIQUE, The
First Annual Sewing Fashion Festival. June 11 - 17, 1956. New York Coliseum.
$15 includes shipping.

C58 - Book by Coonsumer Guide titled MEND IT, SEW IT - Repair and Alter Your
Clothes. 1981. 96 pages. Soft cover, spiral bound. $6 includes shipping.

C59 - Book by Mary Brooks Picken titled SINGER SEWING BOOK, 1953 edition.
250 pages. Is that a 301 machine on the cover? $22 includes shipping.

C60 - Soft cover book by Agnes Frank titled QUILTING FOR BEGINNERS.
Patchwork and applique projects for all ages.  1990. 140 pages. $8 includes

C61 - Soft cover book by Ruby McKim titled 101 PATCHWORK PATTERNS. 1962. 124
pages. $8 includes shipping.

C62 - Magazine ad for Athena 2000 sm by Singer. Free.

C63 - Old needle packets. $3 each, or $2 each for 2 or more, or all 17 for $25.
Choose from:
a-Champion sharps 3/9 (brown PAPER, black label) - Germany, 2 packs
b-John English &co. No 1 sharps (brown, maroon)
c-H. Milward &sons Darners (brown, red) 1857
d-H. Milward &Sons sharps 1 to 5 (brown, white)
e-H. Milward &sons sharps 5/10 (brown, white)
f-J.A.Coates % sons sharps 5/10 (brown, white)
g-Broadway Rhineland large-eyed sharps 5/10 (brown, white)
h-Dix and Rands sharps 3/9 (brown, red/gold)
i-W.Crowley &sons 1873 Lio Brand sharps 4 to 8 (tan, white) paper, no needles
j-W. Crowley &sons Tapestry  19/23 made England (tan, white) needles rusty
k-Piccadilly Rhineland sharps 3/9 (green)
l-Boye Tapestry 18/22 Made in England (white/orange)
m-Woolco sharps 5/10 Made england (red/white)
n-woolco sharps 3/9 Made England
o-Milady's crewel no 4'8. Made in England (navy, white)
p-Celebrated betweens 8's. Made in England. (brown, yellow)

C64 - Two needle threaders.  One silver Singer with 'S' logo, one Prudential
INs Co. advertising. $5 includes postage

Sewing machines for sale:

Singer 503 machine with manual and attachments. Cleaned, nice stitch. $100
plus shipping.  Email for details.  (Note: local shop has same machine for

Singer 66-1, 1929, with attachments, manual, in maroon/cream case similar to
99-31 cases, where top of case fits down over machine and latches at side
bottom. Sew with machine in case base. This is a swan now tho until today
she was an ugly duckling. Lots of elbow grease and 4 hours later, she
shines! Gold trip faded from wear. Machine condition 7-8, case condition 9.
$100 plus shipping.

Thanks for listening.  I will be offline for several days next week, but I
will check email whenever possible.  Thanks. Millie

Millie MacKenzie in CT and Cape Cod, MA

Date: 21 Aug 1996 13:22:23 +0000
From: "Lehrhoff Mary MSM SUPH US" 
Subject: Book

I've been asked about the sewing machine repair book I bought and mentioned 
on the Digest recently, so I'm pasting in the information from another note 
for anyone who might want to get this book...I think it's a bargain, 
especially at the price.  It's not Hi Tech Publishing, (as far as the 
graphics and print quality) but it is adequate, or I wouldn't have bought 

"I consider it $14.95 (plus tax) well spent, it is interesting.  It has some 
separate Singer parts, along with others.  There are very few of these types 
of books around that I have noticed, and I would notice.  I bought it at 
Barnes &Noble in Springfield,NJ....the name of it is:  "How To Repair &
Adjust Your Sewing Machine"  by Arthur W. Smith.  SILVER DOLLAR PRESS, 2301 
Division #712, North Little Rock, Arkansas 72114.  If you can't get it 
locally, you can order it from them, according to the coupon in the back of 
the book...good luck...I think I'll put this up on the digest as others are 
interested, too.."

Does anyone have a service manual for 401 that I could get a copy of? 
 (Bobbie?) I would certainly be glad to reimburse whatever...my new Baby, 
appropriately called Diane (former owner) is a bit arthritic and needs some 
therapy, so the manual would be a big assist.....my wonderful Simple Green 
has totally changed her appearance, so now, it's on to her innards...I've 
always been impressed by the rave reviews of the FWs about this little 
darlin' and have lusting after her....the unfortunate thing was that when 
she finally came, bad luck.  My DH was home and called me at work and wanted 
to know what was in the very heavy box from Illinois...I was hard pressed, 
but basically told the truth....I did say it was a machine and....I said it 
was my mom's...well, it's not a  lie....she WILL use and wanted it 
too....anyway, he made a nasty sounding sound and didn't say anything else. 
 When I got home from work he was out, so I unpacked it and it's now 
assimilated into my "collection!"

I have to admit, my quilting sometimes suffers from my diverted attention to 
the Collection...so many SMs and Quilts....so little time...(it used to be 
MEN!!! - how things change!!)

Love all you guys....toodles for now...

PS:  some time ago, I posted about an Elna Lotus...I was to get it for my 
mom....the guy kept telling me he couldn't get in touch with the owner, then 
finally, he told me she changed her mind and took it back...he seemed to 
think that someone advised it it was too valuable to sell for $150, but I 
always wondered if he sold it to someone else?  I guess I'll never know, and 
mom is heart broken not to have it.  It's such a tiny little thing and would 
be so great for her traveling around to visit all of her children (10 in 
number), grandchildren, greatgrandchildren, and etcetera.  She's pretty 
perky for almost 76, but she's little and I would rather she has a good 
TEENY machine.  This is even smaller than the FW...I never saw the Stella, 
but understand they are about the same size...so I will keep looking.  I do 
have one of the Newer Elnas (circa 79-80) but it's not that light either.

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:26:20 -0700
From: The Dougherty Family 
Subject: SM Repair Book

>From: "Lehrhoff Mary MSM SUPH US" 

I bought this very interesting soft cover book at Barnes &Noble for $14.95 
for repairing sm's.  if anyone is interested, I'll post the 
complete name and author and how to get it.

Mary--Yes!  Yes!  I'm sure many people would like the full title, author,
and publisher!

Teri Dougherty
The Back Door, Greenwood, IN
23 Years and Going Strong!

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:10:42 GMT
Subject: For Sale 
From: ma@usa.pipeline.com(MA) 

Hi all,   
Here are some of my PA finds among others.Mail me for more details.   
1)Brass thimble=size 9, Great shape.$12. plus $2.00 shipping   
2)Sterling Silver thimble=size 10, very pretty w/small engraved star burst 

design around base.$25. plus $2 shipping   
3)Wooden attachment box=green velvet..all pieces in correct order and  
plenty of them.$25 plus $5 shipping.   
4)wooden attachment box=purple velvet, same as above.$25. plus $5 shipping 

5)Singer Buttonholer in dark green plastic case part #160506  
w/4cams/manual/1948 like new.$15. plus $4 shipping.   
6)1 old wooden sock darner....$5. plus $2 shipping   
7) I've got 2 of these.   
Sets of 5 singer feet and attachments.These fit the treadle types.Each  
include:1 quilting foot-1 binder-1 hemmer-1 adjustable hemmer-1  
ruffler.Each set is $10 plus $2.50 shipping.   
Write me if theres any questions.   
Maggie in NY 

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:06:04 -0400
From: shelley@winthrop.slic.com (Shelley Fracalossi)
Subject: Encounter at the airport

Hello all,
No I didn't get to buy another FW !  I saw my 16 year old daughter off last
night to spend a year in France as a Rotary Exchange student.  Her plane
left from Mirabel airport in Montreal Canada and when it got to be around 6
PM (10 minutes before her boarding call) we were sitting by the rest rooms
spending a few last minutes together.  Then this woman came by pushing a
luggage cart and there on the bottom rack sat a FW case with a luggage tag
on it.  She seemed to be looking for someone, but I caught her attention
and it turned out she was looking for her daughter to watch the luggage
cart while she used the facilities.  We expressed interest in what she was
doing with a FW and she told us that a friend had purchased it in France
last year, taken it back to Canada, and then presented it to her as a gift
during her visit.  So now she was taking it back to France again.
Naturally, we kept an eye on it for her while she used the ladies room.
She even let me open the lid, it was a scroll face machine and did have the
oil can and some needles but no attachments.  She said her daughter didn't
want it, but she did, and I asked her if she quilted to which she answered
no.  She was from Paris and spoke little English but it was nice to spot a
fellow Fanatic, however unaware.
My next question of course, is how come this machine was in France, and
will I be able to look for and possibly find same, cheap, when I visit my
daughter in April?
Bon chance a toi...
Shelley in lonely without my daughter, Plattsburgh NY

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 96 17:05:50 EDT
From: Gene Baker 
Subject: Paul W. Newhof (Keys)

If anyone has an e-mail address for Paul W. Newhof of Grand Rapids, Michigan
or if Paul Newhof reads this posting please contact me.
Thank you.

Gene Baker
You can find us on the World Wide Web at:

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 17:14:05 -0400
From: robinson@magicnet.net (Sherry Robinson)
Subject: My new FW

        Hi!  I'm new, so forgive any breach of protocol, etc.!  I recently
purchased my first FW.  It is a 1938.  It came with several attachments.
This little wonder flies when I piece quilts, I can hardly keep up.  I need
two pieces of advice.  Where can I purchase and pressure foot that is 1/4
inch to use for my quilting and I also wonder if there is a walking foot
that will fit a FW?
        Recently I have been having trouble with the tension.  I'm not sure
if it is the bobbin or not.  I have my top tension set on 2 and it seems to
work better but that seems like an awfully low setting to me.  I would
suspect it should be set around five. Also, the tension seems to change
according to the speed that I sew.  Is is usual, or do I need to make some
adjustments?  Thanks for any help you can give me.
        I love reading FW Fanatics each afternoon.  Thanks for all of the
effort that everybody puts into it.

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:40:54 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lydia Pratt 

To Clay &Shelly: The Model 66-1 is the machine with the rear-attaching
feet as opposed to the side-attaching feet.  I think it may have
been the first and last model that did that.  This makes workable
attachments harder to find, so do NOT pass up the chance to acquire anything!

                                  _   _
Lydia Pratt                      |_|X|_|
Columbus, Ohio                   |X|*|X|
lspratt@freenet.columbus.oh.us   |_|X|_|

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 20:50:52 -0400
From: Santilla@aol.com
Subject: Another Singer

     I work at a high school and just couldn't stand to see them throwing a
Singer 717 away, so I rescued it.  I haven't told DH yet, as he will not be
exactly thrilled.  I have to bring it home Monday, and would love to be able
to give it a home that day. It is free to anyone who wants to come over and
pick it up. It is in a table and both are in OK, but being school used
machines are far from perfect. It would be great for a young person to learn
on. I have not tried it out, but everything seems to turn OK. Apparently the
school had 60 or so and has weeded them until they only had a few left and
had kept the best ones until now. There are no attachments, not even a
bobbin, but it is a drop bobbin, so it doesn't need a separate case. If you
are interested let me know and I will write back this weekend when I get back
in town.

Happy Featherweighting,
Krisi in Gaithersburg, Maryland

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:16:48 -0400
From: Cyberjaney@aol.com
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/20/96


Willcox &Gibbs automatic sewing machine (no pedal, sorry), metal box of
accessories, and original manual  --- I have $60 in it so would like at least
that much for it plus UPS.  I am selling it because I am moving so some
things just have to go.


Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:19:54 -0700
From: Scott and Elisa Richardson 
Subject: Sewing machine manuals

Dear Fanatics,
	I belong to the Quiltbee e-guild, and I recently placed a request 
for anyone who may have access or knowledge of a sewing machine manual 
for a Necchi model 521 free-arm that was purchased around 1980.  MANY of 
my fellow QB'ers responded with advice to call upon you because you are 
interested in older model machines.
	Does anyone have this manual or know where I can get it?  I would 
gladly pay or trade for it (or even a photocopy of one).

Thank you in advance, 
Love, Elisa in MA


Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 03:42:36 GMT
Subject: Hudson
From: ma@usa.pipeline.com (MA)

Was wondering if anyone had heard of a Hudson SM.Friend has one and looks
like a singer clone.50s and like the singers black w/gold clover looking
decals.Straight stitch/rotary/and reverse.Nice machine and takes singer
attachments.Says Hudson across the arm in usual place. 
Another I was wondering about was the Greybar.Sold in NY early 1900s. 
Have a friend looking for a Elna SU machine.Its 2 tone, blue on bottom and
white on top.She has cams and manual, just needs the SM. 
Maggie in NY 
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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 17:22:34 -0500
From: Featherweight Fanatics 
Subject: FW Fanatics 8/23/96
To: Sue@quilt.com
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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 00:03:52 -0400
From: Larry Doyle 
Subject: FW milldewed case

Hi Folks,I tried this for a couple of my SM saces that had been in the
basement and got the mildew oder.Let it sit open in the bright sun for a
couple of days,the put in one of those automobile deoterizers and leave
it,It worked great for me.Good luck

From: "Jeffrey E. Froyd" 
Subject: 301 Beds
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 23:19:37 -0500

Hi all

I haven't seen anyone respond to Wilma's question of 8/17 on the 301 bed =
extensions.  Yes, there are two different size extensions:  one is about =
5 and 1/2" long and the other is about 2 and 3/4"  (I don't own a short, =
so somebody correct me if I'm wrong).  It seems that 301 cabinets take =
the short beds, but the 301 tables come in both sizes.  Either size can =
also be used as a portable, of course.

And here's a bit of trivia that Courtney got me started on:  Even for =
the few years they were made, the black 301s have at least two =
variations of the gold decals on the bed.  I recently bought a second =
black one and it is different from my first (but like yours, Courtney).  =
Anybody know of more than two?

Joy in IN, where the hottest yuckiest weather of the summer is here to =
usher in the start of school tomorrow...

From: TQKW64A@prodigy.com (MS MARGO A ROCCONI)
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 01:20:21, -0500
Subject: White FW and Toy Sewhandy

    Dear FWFs:  

     My cousin gave me the Singer Sewhandy Model 50 toy sewing 
machine that I had seen when I visited her in Minnesota!  I told her 
she should keep it, but she mailed it to me after I got back home.  
It's in excellent shape, but the instruction booklet is missing.  
Does anyone out there have one they could photocopy for me?

     Also, I need some advice.  My white featherweight sounds like it 
has a frog in its throat when running at fast speeds, sort of a low 
growl.  I have oiled it and done everything else that I know how.  
Any ideas?

     Thanks, Margo (in Southern California)

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 07:30:04 -0400
From: BSawyer631@aol.com
Subject: Returned mail

Well, I did buy the machine after all.  Said I wouldn't go over $100 for
another machine for a while, but the owner had already dropped from $150 to
$125 for a "Sale" price, and said $115 was as low as he could go.  I wanted
it, so .... it's here!  The manual says it is an I.F.  Oscillating Shuttle
Sewing Machine.  The manual has darkened considerably with age, and is in
fragile condition.  I'd be glad to photocopy if someone needs one. (Printed
1892 -say "For addresses of 534 Branches in Great Britain and Ireland, see
pages 22-25,"  but I have through page 20 only.)  Singer dates the machine
3/19/94, Scotland.
   As far as I can tell, the attachments with it, which are in good and NOT
RUSTY! condition are: 4 hemmers, 1 binder, 1 tuck marker, 1 quilter, 1
braider, 1 straight guide and screw, another large thumb screw, a smaller
thumb screw, 4 extra bobbins (gee - the manual says I should have 5! ), 1
extra thread take-up spring, a green Singer package with 2 needles, and a few
other items I cannot identify.  The cardboard box at one time was white with
a brown top - but it is now in pieces.  Also has a narrow cardboard tube with
fine thread on it, an extra spool holder, and the wooden peg that supports
the machine when tilted back for oiling.
    Have spent considerable time trying to make the blackened Singer logo
look gold, and it is about 90% there.  Howard Feed and Wax seemed to dissolve
the old wax/varnish, a soft toothbrush (child's) with Metal Gleam also helped
some stubborn spots.  The gold decorations are also looking much better.  The
wood table, single drawer, and coffin case top, which I guess is walnut, not
maple after all, were very rough and dry. Orange Oil cleaned the case well.
 The table has had a couple applications of the Feed and Wax, but it will
need several more.
  I'm glad I got it.  It's beginning to really look like something! 
   Barb in Texas

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 09:17:21 -0400
From: joyb@sunflower.sps.mot.com (Joy Bracewell)
Subject: Where in the world is Hickory Hills?

Hi Everyone
Someone please tell me where Hickory Hills Antique Quilts Store is. I am =
new to=20
the Raleigh, NC area. I have never lived this far up the East Coast. =
This sounds=20
like a store I would really enjoy visiting.=20

Date: 22 Aug 1996 14:06:57 +0000
From: "Lehrhoff Mary MSM SUPH US" 
Subject: Stuff


Re:  the Valuable Antique Machine:  my thought is if it's terribly, terribly 
valuable, don't use it.  Otherwise, use it...to me, the value is linked with 
it's utility...I'm not much for valuable chatch ckas sitting around needing 
dusting...it I can't use it, I'd just as soon get the $$$ and get something 
I CAN use...but remember....this is ...the thought of sewing with a 
machine covered with plastic to me is like sitting on plastic seat covers..

The Student Manual that Bobbie mentioned is great...I've had it for years. 
 It's hard to come by any decent literature on our beloved SMs and when ever 
possible to to glom it up, I do it...I don't unfortunately have the Carter 
Bay book, unless anyone has one they don't want and will sell it Very Cheap 
To A Good Home Wherein It Will Be Appreciated And Loved....

To Chris:

Just a question:  how much is a needle plate (ziggag) for the 401?

Well, the weekend is coming up...Estate Sales, Garage Sales, Yard Sales, 
Flee Markets, Rummage Sales, Antique Stores, 2nd Hand Stores....neighbor's 
trash.....have fun, Fellow Feathers and Happy Looking!

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 13:54:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: cibolo@connecti.com
Subject: Model 66

Can anyone give me a value on a Model 66 I found?  I called Singer and they
said it was a model 66 made in ELiz. NJ on January 16, 1911.  I could not
find the model # on the machine.  Singer said no electric made until 1923,
but this is electric, so I guess it was converted.  It is in a bentwood case
that looks like new with gold "singer" on the case. Has the key.  

The machine is heavily embellished with green, red, and gold. Has a gold
medallion.  Bullet type bobbin.  No manual.  About 5 attachments in the
original green/red cardboard box.  It is at least a 9.  Sews perfectly.  Has
a knee operated lever to make it sew.
I need a little help on this if anyone can give me a value.  Should I go
back &get it?

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 13:07:41 -0700
From: Nancy Brown 
Subject: Model 66

Can anyone help me with restoring a model 66 treadle Singer?  It 
was used regularly until about a year ago, but badly needs to be cleaned 

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 17:21:52 -0400
From: Ruth Tozer 
Subject: For Sale:toy Singer

FOR SALE;  toy Singer sewing machine #29962, Chocolate brown, made in Great
Britain.  Best Offer.

Ruth    toz@wincom.net

Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 19:05:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: tmfrazer@netcom.ca (Tracy Maureen Frazer)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/18/96

HI It's Tracy on Bowen Island again.
Last Monday got a return phone message from an estate sale I had called 
on, DH gave it to me with a straight face , (I know he just loved 
doing too!) " YES there is an old Singer SM in the sale, IN A LITTLE 
BLACK BOX" !  Called the man back immediately and felt sure it was a 
FW, he agreed to let me come the night before the sale to see her.  
Then I waited all week loooong, and tried not to think about it or tell 
anyone for fear of it not happening, let me tell you, not telling was 
the hardest thing of all for me!  A real test I guess.  Friday rolled 
around and I took DH cause I was tooo nervous to drive myself.  Arrived 
a few minutes after the appointed time, trying to be cool.... HA!
Case was a very battered, dirty mess, but intact.  Had a complete 
buttonholer set too, all the attachments, bill for a $17, 1971 
servicing and a brown replacement Singer replacement foot pedal.  But 
the case's condition had me worried.  I needn't have, it had done it's 
job very well.  She is an AD born I think in 1934, and is at least an 
8.5, runs like a champ ( at least she did after I hook back in its 
proper position, which is why I don't think she had been used in the 
last 30 years). The price when I first phoned was $30 Canadian, by the 
time I got there they had raised it to $75!  Needless to say once I saw 
her I swallowed my pride and paid anyway...  
So hang in there wanna be FW owners, if I can find TWO FW on Bowen 
Island, BC, Canada, population under 3000 people, in under 2 months 
they can be found anywhere!
Now the problem is knowing when to stop, I am afraid I haven't found 
out how yet.  I now have more SMs than I ever thought possible and I 
KEEP LOOKING FOR MORE, in fact the thought of not looking for more is 
very depressing. I told Maggie from NY, we should have a SMaholics 
You know " my name is Tracy, I'm an SMaholic and I have 14 SMs, Help!"

Thanks for listening and if anyone knows of a cure ( besides selling 
them all or stopping, ) I'm all ears or SMs!

Tracy Frazer on Bowen Island, BC.


Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:51:06 -0400
From: Fritz906@aol.com
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/21/96

 Hi all, I haven't quit you , I just went back to
work, Dietary Production Manager in the School System, gotta feed the kiddy's.
    I have bought several SM in the last mo, a Singer 319, green with several
built in stiches , an old STANDARD treadle head in great shape , another 99
in great shape , today I stopped into a small  junk shop I found on the road,
found an old Singer for $10,00 ,with book &attachments, book says 127-128 on
it but I'm not sure yet if that's what I have , when I told the man I was
looking for a small Singer , he said he could get me several FW's at
auction's for $45.-$50. most of the times , I said I'd take them as soon as
he can come up with them , he said give him a Wk , we'l see, something for me
to hope for , Ha! DH said "like I really need them to add to my collection" I
have 3 now, &umteen other Sm's, but I Love them all. I just need a bigger
house , to put them in , sorry I have'nt been on the chat sessions ,I'll try
again soon. you all take care an keep searchin , there still out there
                              Sandy  .

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 18:15:42 -0700
From: Bobbie 
Subject: for Singer 9900

        Hi Ya'll....today I found the following:

for Singer 9900

        Instruction Manual AND Sew Like a Star Manual

also x-tra cards for the machine.

        Was told that Card 9A is 'rare'; asked what made it rare, and was
told they did 
        not produce as many 9A's as the other cards.
        9-A is 4-Seasons

Other cards:  3-A - Menagarie (animals)
                   5-A - Xmas
                   8-A - Large Script Monograms

Just a note: these cards retailed for $69.95 each back in '90
I'll make whoever wants this entire cache, a fantastic deal
No $$ in it for me, just a good deal for whoever! (smile)

        Besides, they were sitting in a box collecting dust!

If anyone's interested in these....send me email....

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 02:38:22 GMT
Subject: Lancaster
From: ma@usa.pipeline.com (MA)

Hi all, 
          Spent a wonderful time in Lancaster PA over the
weekend.SOOOOOOOOO many shops...so little time.Need a good month to dig
thru  all the great flees and antique shops and do it right.Found many
items interesting items and met some really nice folks while I was at
it.Have to leave the kiddies home next time as they have no patience for
all the things I love to do.I think you all know what I mean. 
Saw a New Willard portable in square wooden case.Interesting but in bad
repair.Gentleman wanted $150 and as I wasn't interested didn't even
haggle.Lots of old 99s among the 66s and model 15s.None in very good shape
and costing a premium price.A painted over bentwood cased 99 was selling
for $70 and was a real mess. 
I did see an interesting treadle though.A 15 in a treadle cabinet that was
an origional electric.Wiring went thru leg to base of treadle and you
pressed treadle foot to operate.Very nice refinished cabinet and head in
great shape...going for $250.serial number put it about 1910 or so.Didn't
know they did treadles that way. 
This would have been my machine of choice if I'd had the room in the
car...maybe I should have bought bus tickets for the family to go home so
I'd have the room.................. 
Bought a wooden fold out attachment box w/almost all of the pieces in their
rightful places.Green velvet lining.Anyone know which head this belongs to?
Would someone know what model very small round shaped bobbins go to
also?Just like the FW but smaller in size.Found a small cardboard singer
needle box full of these but don't know what SM they belong to. Any help
For Sale: 
Anyway now for the treat..I bought some of Wilcox and Gibbs origional
attachments in boxes with manuals and some without.An origional Manual with
instructions on all operations of machine and use of said
attachments.Accessories w/patents from 1872 and 1882.The manual has no copy
date I can find.It is more like a small book and larger in size than singer
manuals.36 pages long and very informative in all aspects of the machine
and attachments.Many illustrations and great reading.I'd sell all as a
group or individually.I did not buy them cheaply but I thought someone
could use them and I've  NEVER seen them anywhere before.Mail me if
Thanks for listening, 
Maggie in NY 

From: sharon@cvo.oneworld.com
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:45:48 +0000
Subject: Need foot control for 301

SM #4 is now hiding under my desk.  Fortunately, DH doesn't go into 
my sewing/cat/exercise room often.  I bought a tan 301 with a short 
bed extension.  She has no manual, no attachments (I have extras), and 
no power cord or foot control, BUT it's in near 9 condition.  I have 
to clean her before I know for sure.  She was marked "for parts" and 
cost $3!  (There is nothing wrong with her.)

I priced a new control and cord for $30, but I was hoping that 
someone would have an extra they'd be willing to sell.  I would be 
surprised to actually find one, but I thought I'd try.  I am 
wondering if it's worth it to buy the new set or look for an old.  
Unless this machine turns out to be better than my black 301a, I 
probably will enjoy it for awhile and then sell it.  Any advice or 

Sharon Reese
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Date: Sat, 24 Aug 96 14:51:35 -0500
From: Featherweight Fanatics 
Subject: FW Fanatics 8/23/96
To: Sue@quilt.com
X-Mailer: LeeMail 2.0.5

Hi Everyone, 

just a reminder.  Next chat at 2pm edt tomorrow.  Questions - http://quilt.com/
Chat or Sue@ttsw.com

Sue T

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 00:05:09 -0400
From: DickDreyer@aol.com
Subject: Hi!

What would you do if you saw a gorgeous Standard treadle machine in a treadle
cabinet in a dark corner of an old hotel?  I even opened up the drawers to
discover bobbins and attachments.  Knowing that the machine will probably
never sew nor even be noticed in a hotel, I wonder 1) should I contact the
owner/manager and see if he/she would sell 2)offer to replace with a
refinished treadle table (no machine) 3) silently remove from cabinet when no
one's looking (just kidding!) or 4)other.

On another note, want to highly recommend "Toy Stitchers" for you out there
like me who know little about toy sewing machines.  For $18 subscription you
get a monthly newsletter with photos.  Each month focuses on a particular
make, i.e. Singer, Vulcan, Piq-Bien, etc.  Read a great article on repairing
cardboard boxes.  To subscribe send $18 to Toy Stitchers, 623 Santa Florita,
Millbrae, CA   94030.  I have no connection, only interest because I felt so
in the dark but interested in toy machines.  Some of the members have
collections of 200-500 machines.  Amazing!

LASTLY, am getting something out of a column that appears in the SF
Chronicle, "Power Sewing," by Sandra Betzina.  She recommends a comfortable
supportive chair, a back-friendly cutting area, a large sewing surface
(plexiglass work area tables great) and ample lighting in sewing, cutting and
pressing areas.  Cute suggestion is to put a few fabrics in basket as
reminders.  If you're like me, I love fabrics and load up every time I go to
the fabric shop!

Want to say big thank you to those on the list who have become good friends,
like Millie MacKenzie and Maggie Arlotta.  I'm anxious to meet you all in
person.  Saturday, I will meet an older woman in a local retirement community
where I ran a one-day ad.  She called to sell her electrified White in a
refinished Martha Washington cabinet.  Although I'm not interested, she's
called twice, and I know how precious machines can be.  She wants $50.  If
anyone IS interested, especially locally, please e-mail me.  --Mari in N. Cal
where we have a GIANT pumpkin on the vine probably weighing in at 150
lbs.--nothing in comparison to those 200 lb. cabbages at the AK State Fair
according to fellow FWF Sharon Corbin.  Cheers to all!  -Mari

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 22:40:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: jdeboer@discover.net (Judy and Anthony)
Subject: Singer 301

Hi all,  I really enjoy the FWFanantics and have managed to obtain 2 FW at 
prices.  Now I'm hooked and neeeeeed a 301.  If anyone has one for sale in 
good condition please let me know.  Also would be interested in approx price 
I should expect to pay for one. 
Thanks for any help you can give me.     Judy D in HOT  California

Date: 	Thu, 22 Aug 1996 19:03:34 -1000
From: "Charles B. Law" 
Subject: Wheeler and Wilson #9

I used to own a portable Wheeler and Wilson #9 machine.  It had the black
"godzilla" finish, a rotary bobbin, and the only decals were the company
name on the arm (in yellow).  The machine was in a fabric covered wood
box, and came with a light bulb in the back and a foot pedal.  The machine
looked like it was manufactured in the 1940s, but the only patent date on
the bobbin cover plate was like 1892, or 1893.  Unfortunately, I sold it
awhile back...

Anyway, my main question is that if Wheeler and Wilson was bought out by
Singer in the early 1900s, and Singer only manufactured them for a few
years after (and I doubt into the 1930s or 40s), where does this machine
fit in?  It came with a motor, but the bracked of the motor was screwed
into two holes drilled into the back of the arm-- there was no place to
attach a motor or handcrank (like later Singer machines).  The same was
true for the light on the back of the arm...

If anyone has any info, please post here...


Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:17:24 +1000 (EST)
From: Jake Jacobs 
Subject: Help

I have a request for help I have been given two treadle machine  and I can't
find any referance to  either of them in the books that I have. the first is 
        New Century Ace made in the USA no. LN56273 it is in a cabinet with
a small extention on the side with another small cupboard and  shelf.There
is no shuttle  so I will be on the look out for one there.
the second is a         
        Berafald Bluie  Bird no. 130927 decorated with little blue birds
this is also in a cabinet with two doors .
 can anyone PLEASE help identify  anything about them  does anyone have a
manual ?????

I read the other day someone refered to the ISMACS book  where do I get one 
Thanks from Ann-Maree in cold  , cold Canberra 

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 22:57:38 -0400
From: Larry Doyle 
Subject: Great Things Do Happen

    Hi Everyone,Great things do really happen.This past weekend I was at a
church sale at a little church near me.There were all kinds of things for
sale,one happened to be a FW.This machine was in pretty good condition,not
great but buyable.Both a lady and I approached it at the same time,she asked
if I were interested in it. I said for her to take a look first.She insisted
that I look first,then I insisted she look first.I finally said that being
this polite would get us no were and that she should take the machine.She
then expresed how badly she felt about my not getting to have my chance at
it so maby we should draw straws.(You all must know how this sort of thing
can go on)I then had the bright idea to call the 800 No.at Singer.The person
whos birthday was closest to the birthday of the machine would get it.Being
early on a Friday the lines were open,so I called.The poor lady had no idea
what I ment.She soon found out that the machine we were looking at was made
on her birthday in 1947.We both got a laugh on that one.I then invited her
to have lunch with me at the fair because this very day we were looking at
the machine at the fair was indeed hers and the machines birthday.Some
evening she will come to my house a see what goes on in the digest. My best
to all

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 07:33:23 +0100
From: terry 
Subject: what are featherweights

Saw your page and I'd like to know more about these apparent little 
machines.  Are they still made?  What is so special about them?  Etc.

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 21:39:38 -0400
From: Kilda@aol.com
Subject: Cams for 401 etc.


i can't seem to e-mail directly to you.  Everytime I try, I get a bounce.
 Anyhow, I have some duplicate cams:  two of #1, 1 each of 2,3,4.  If you or
anyone else needs these, contact me directly.  

Flo  Kilda@aol.com

From: "Jeffrey E. Froyd" 
Subject: Elna Supermatic-Manual??
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 23:03:24 -0500

I had almost given up on my local Goodwill store having anything but =
torn up Kenmores, but today was a feast.  There were two old Singers in =
cabinets sitting out by the drop-off--lots of gold and fair condition.  =
I decided I better see what was for sale inside.  They had two other =
nice cabinet machines I'd never heard of--an Ambassador and an Aldens.  =
Both were older, black, and the Aldens looked almost like a Singer.  =
There was a junky portable of some kind on the floor.

As I was making my final pass around the room, I noted a beige =
crepe-metal case under a table.  It looked nothing like a sm case, but I =
have this reflex that opens anything with a carrying handle.  Inside was =
an Elna Supermatic--I'd never seen anything like it.  It's shaped like a =
beige KitchenAid mixer, and weighs almost as much.  I'm guessing it's =
50s-60s-ish.  It has a knee control and box with some feet, bobbins, =
needles, and about 17 cams.  I got excited when I saw all the patterns I =
don't have on my Bernina.  I played around with it for quite a while, =
but never quite got the cams working, but I plugged it in and the motor =
just purrs.  Oh--this is a freearm, but I finally noticed that the =
unsightly metal case comes apart to become an add-on table.  Way cool.

I never thought I would buy anything older that wasn't Singer, but this =
machine grabbed me.  It's in very nice shape, and I'm confident it can =
do neat things, but I really REALLY need the manual.  I bought it in =
hope and trust that somebody here could provide a manual/copy/number to =
call, etc.  I will gladly cover all costs.  Any other info on this =
machine is also welcome--I know nothing outside the Singer realm!

Joy in IN

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 07:54:01 -0400
From: fs708@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Debra  Roby)
Subject: Two Questions

Good day, all.

I have two questions

	#1.  I own a 1/4" foot that i thought was the original Little Foot.
 It's clear plastic/silicon(?) with markings for 1/4" and 1/8" infront and
behind the needle.  Has a white hook for attaching to my machines.  BUT, it
doesn't line up with the feed dogs on either my 99s or my FW.  IF this
isn't the original Little Foot, is that one guarenteed to line with my feed

	#2.  Not really a question.  More of a repeat from other people. 
But if anyone has a source for the knee control for old bentwood cases, I
would appreciate someone telling me about it.  Or, can one be made?  I have
a friend whose husband owns his own Tool and Die shop...don't know about
asking Doug if he could make a couple replacments.  How many people would
need one?  (and are they all the same"  Can I just say Doug, make me 12 to
work in this case?).  Ok it turned out to be a question...

Gotta go do some quiltin'

deb roby				fs708@cleveland.freenet.edu					

From: EHZG23B@prodigy.com (MRS LISA DUGGAN)
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 00:05:31, -0500
Subject: FW Shirts

There here! You asked for them we got 'em! Embroidered      
shirts showing the featherweight in full detail . If you     
prefer all shirts can be customized with your               
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order to:Pro Oufitters                                      
29 Davin Dr.                                                
Please allow 2-4 weeks for delivery! Thanks in advance! LISA    
(AKA yo-yo)                                                     

Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 20:10:19 -0400
From: Nancy Behrman 
Subject: Featherweight case

Has anyone ever heard of a dapple grey with black specks case for a 
featherweight?  A friend of mine bought her 1950 model and was wondering 
about the authenticity of it.  I'm also looking for an instruction book for 
1890 Singer shuttle tredle machine. I have two featherweights but 
am looking for the elusive bargain free arm.  Thanks for any help you can give 
me on the above requests.--Nancy from Michigan.

From: Laurie Engle 
Subject: Singer iron
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 09:25:50 -0500

Hi all:
I had to go out og town to a union training convention this week, which 
turned out to be a lot of fun.As I was headed home in the old truck (sans 
husband and children) I just got the feeling that there was an old sewing 
machine nearby. Ahhh, yes--there's an antique store......sharp right turn!

All I found  as far as sewing machines was an old White rotary--pretty beat 
up I don't know if it ran--for 35.00. The footpedal was interesting. It was 
shaped like a foot, and had a big circular thing at the toe. I have no 
 idea what it was-some sort of fan maybe?
Also they had a Standard treadle for 110.00. The cabinet was beautiful, but 
I didn't open it up for two reasons: I have NO room for another treadle and 
didn't want to be tempted; and it was being used as a table for dozens of 
miniature glass plates and cups. No way was I going to ask to have all of 
that moved!

I did however find a beautiful Singer iron. Its all chrome with a large 
plastic (bakelite?) handle. It has the older cloth cord which looks like 
new yet. And boy, is this guy heavy! I don't have the faintest idea of how 
old it is--a model B, if that's any help. Has a dial for different types of 
fabric, but no steam.
I thought everyone might find it interesting in light of the discussion 
awhile back of all the various things that Singer manufactured.

Also, I got a note from Katy yesterday directing me to another antique 
store with 2 old Singers in bentwood cases....I just might have to take a 
roadtrip today.......  ;)


From: c541760@muccmail.missouri.edu
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 12:08:15 CST
Subject: What do I have here?

     Hello, my name is Oscar Lin and I was out last weekend rummaging 
     around rummage sales and came up with two old Singer machines.  I've 
     always wanted to learn to sew, so i figured, what the heck, they both 
     worked (the electric motors turned :) so what do I have to lose?
     Well, either only their motors work or I'm threading them wrong 
     (probably the latter scenario).  Anyway, if you could point me in the 
     right direction, I would really appreciate the help.
     From surfing the net, I think the machines are Singer 66's since both 
     of them weigh a ton (apiece :)  The serial numbers are AD494354 and 
     G5723113.  The G5723113 even came with the case, table, and leg 
     attachments.  I'm not an antique collector (unless they're cameras) so 
     if these are valuable enough to sell and buy a new sewing machine, 
     that would also be an option.  They are about a 6.5 out of 10 in 
     overall condition.  I live in Columbia, Missouri if you know of any 
     collectors nearby.
     Your site was an excellent source of info.  Thanks and I hope to hear 
     from you soon.
     Oscar Lin

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 18:34:59 -0400
From: Larry Doyle 
Subject: To Buy:Wanted

 Hello Everyone,If ant one has a 401 for sale please let me know.Thanks

From: "Doug and Sandy VanWiggeren" 
Subject: Standard Treadle
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 17:52:01 -0500

Hi fellow FWF's!

I have been enjoying reading the posts for quite awhile and finally decided
to speak up.  Just recently my stepfather gave me his mother's old Standard
rotary shuttle treadle machine.  It has all the attachments, several
bobbins in the swing out bobbin tray, the instruction book, and even an
original parts list.  It's probably in a 7 condition appearance-wise, but
works like a champ.  The latest patent date on the needle plate is Oct.,
17,1899.  I was wondering if there is a good source from which to find
information on the Standard machines.  I know the company was bought out by
Singer around 1929, but are there any books out there that tell anything

Thanks for any information.  Hope you all have success in your next sewing
machine search!

Sandy VanWiggeren

From: denisej@swbi.net (denisej)
Subject: RE: odds and ends
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 18:59:57 -0500

Went FW hunting today, and found some 128's, one in a cabinet, and two =
with bentwood cases.  One was that godzilla finish, the other a very =
ornate pattern on it (lots of gold and red!!!)  Also found a green 185K. =
 All looked to be in pretty good shape, and needed only a good clean-up. =
 I am wondering if anyone out there is interested in these, and if so, =
what prices they are willing to pay for them.  I have not bought them =
yet, but I can go back for them and dicker prices with the owners.  The =
prices were in the $60. range for all but the red/gold 128, in the =
bentwood case, that one he was asking $85.  I thought that was a bit =

I would appreciate and comments re their value, and/or history on the =
green 185K.  That was a new one to me!

Thanks so much

Denise on Lake Huron, Ontario

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 16:44:22 -0700
From: Bobbie 
Subject: SM Items I found

Just got back from that "warehouse hunt"..what a mess I am.......absolutely
filthy.  But wanted to let you know, all I found worth anything were two Elnas
1 is the Transforma and the other one is a Supermatic.  No Lotus, no Elnetta!

Also an old Treadle head, with Sphinx design...didn't get the Ser.# cause
I wasn't interested.  It's about an 8!

Also a box of Attachmets for the Singer 604 Machine,

 and this ugly green box full of Necchi attachments, cams, and all sorts of
stuff for
and OLD Necchi.  The attachment box is kewl....on the lid it has these
little 'windows'
and you push the thumb-wheel to the stitch you want, and it shows in these
windows the # cam, the tension, SL, SW, etc.  Pretty neat for something this

Anyone interested in any of this stuff, e-mail me

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 20:48:03 -0400
From: Nancy Behrman 


Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 19:26:51 -0700
From: Nancy Brown 
Subject: Model 66=

My model 66 is from an aunt who died recently.  She also had a Model 27
born in 1903, but its case is in need of repair and I don't know about
the machine. I don't think the case had been opened in years.  It went to
my brother-in-law, who is single and will use it only for display.

The model 66 (9/20/21) treadle was used regularly until about a year or
so ago.  It has a box of attachments, some extra bobbins and the original 
owner's handbook, and is embellished with lots of gold, red and green.  
In the drawer there are also a couple of tiny spindle type bobbins with 
thread and what I think is called an oscellating bobbin case?  Does 
anyone know if those are from the older machine, which she used first?  
Both of her machines have large pincushions made to cover what I would 
call the neck of the machine.  I'm guessing that the case is walnut 
veneer.  It is very worn, but has only two small breaks in the veneer.

I would love to know how to restore this machine to its peak beauty and
yet not destroy its value.  (Of course, the sentiment for me is value 
that could never be measured.)

Thanks for any help you can give me!  Nancy

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 19:03:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mark Croissant 
Subject: Re: FW For sale
Hi All,

  I have a 1965 White FW in green case(w/cream trim), the original manual 
and a few attachments plus the screw drives for sale. The machine is 
probably 8.5 runs great and is a really beautiful machine. The case is 
about a 7.5 - 8 with only one blemish on the top near the handle.  I paid 
$250 for this machine and want to sell it for that plus shipping if it is 
needed.  I haven't used this machine and feel pretty guilty for buying it 
since I already have quite a collection of old machines. So if anyone is 
interested or just wants a little info on it you can reach me at 
psu10037@odin.cc.pdx.edu    .   I bought this machine at a singer dealer 
here in Portland, it has been fully serviced and is in great running 
condition.  It just needs a loving home where it will get some use.*).

Thanks for reading,

 Lynn C. In Portland, Or

From: Laurie Engle 
Subject:  Buttonholers for sale and free
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 22:01:53 -0500

I have for sale:

1. "Domestic Magic Key Buttonhole Worker". This is a black buttonholer with 
5 cams,cover plate and screw, and a manual. Comes in a black snapclosing 
leatherette (I'm not sure if it's leather or vinyl :) case. I believe it's 
for a top-clamping machine. That's what it shows in the manual. I don't 
know what machines it will fit however. Good shape $10.00 plus shipping 
from Wisconsin.

2. Free for the shipping---a buttonholer in the green Jetson case.Manual, 5 
cams, cover plate and screw. I don't know if it works, since the part that 
fits over the arm seems very stiff. If you need a good case, cams or 
manual, though; this might be for you. I already have another one just like 

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 21:26:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Zsuxxa 
Subject: Re: FW For Sale

White Featherweight- In excellent condition, stitch great, all 
attachments including oil, screwdriver and needles, original manual, case 
is great too. This is truly one of the better Whites that I've personally 
run across and lately they have been few and far between. $425-because of 
superior condition and $30 for Shipping, Handling, Insurance for amount, 
and extra tracking. Zsuxxa

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 01:32:15 -0400
From: Clay &Shelly Leihy 
Subject: Odds n ends

Saw a machine for sale, thought it was a 201. Until I noticed that it
was a class 15 machine and had the light on the back. Beautiful
condition Centennial model in the original cabinet. Cabinet is also
interesting, as it is an all wood model, obviously made for electrics,
but apparently designed to be reminiscent of the old treadle type. That
is, it has three little drawers on either side, and a spring loaded
metal plate in the rightmost part of the opening, as if to help raise
the machine. The cabinet, as well as the machine looks nearly new. The
motor on the machine kind of sticks out of the back of the head, but is
still built in. Is this a 15-91, and is it worth the $45 asking price?

Also, we have a Greist buttonholer for White rotary for sale. It is in a
green box with "Magic Buttonholer" printed on top, and "Rotary" on the
ends. Buttonholer and box are in excellent condition, and includes feed
cover and all 5 templates. Sorry, no manual, but I know where I can get
one if necessary. $25 takes it, including s&h.

Finally, anyone restoring a water damaged machine might want to check
out the "University of Florida Disaster Handbook Guide - Salvaging
Sewing Machines." Not a lot of info, but kinda neat.

Clay &Shelly

Subject: 99 without knee control
From: im.quiltin@juno.com (Jenifer J Markey)
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 21:08:40 EDT

I had sent a longer message telling about a 99 I had picked up at a flea.
mkt. last weekend, but didn't see it posted here.  Don't know if I missed
it or if it was too long to get posted, so I'll tell the story again in
short version.   :)

I have seen that 2 other people in the past week or so who have picked up
SMs that are missing the knee control also.  I went to s SM shop and the
man there told me it would be nearly impossible to obtain one, so he
suggested wiring it with a foot control.  He sold me one for $12.95 and
sent me next door to the hardware store to get the proper wire.  Spent a
couple bucks on that.  Paid $20 for the machine-- in well used shape, but
I *had* to buy a SM.  I didn't have  a 99 yet, and the bentwood case was
in the best shape of any I've seen so far.  Didn't call Singer for BD
yet, keep forgetting.  It doesn't have reverse and  has scrolled plate on
side.  Decals on base are worn to white in alot of places, almost looks
like someone had tried to scrub something off of it (scratches that run
horiz.).  Looks like it had a couple of long pieces of tape on it for
some reason, that left a permanent residue on the bed finish.  

After I brought it into the house and DH rolled  his eyes completely into
the back of his head, I very nicely asked him to please help me wire it. 
It took us only a few minutes to do it and if I ever get a knee lever I
can *very* easily convert it back.  It runs good!

I think I have motherly instincts for SMs.  I have the urge to have a
bigger family (of SMs).

Jenifer   :)


Does anyone know where I can find a D cam for my Viking H.,  model 21 A? 
This is the one used for the blind hem stitch.  I need it for invisible
machine applique'.

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 09:31:20 -0400
From: Clay &Shelly Leihy 
Subject: Correction

Oops, the Univerisity of Florida's "Salvaging Sewing Machines" correct
URL is http://www.agen.ufl.edu/~foodsaf/he123.html. I left out the "dot"
before html the first time. Its really neat that along with "Avoiding
Frauds and Deception," "Protecting Valuable Records," and "Salvaging
Household Furniture," that they saw fit to include sewing machines.

Clay &Shelly

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 10:08:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Lydia Pratt 

To Tracy on Bowen Island:  I know the feeling.  I think (notice I'm no
longer sure exactly how many machines I own -- this is a BAD sign!) that
the 401A is #10.  In fact, as we were driving back to the house with it DH
looked at me and said "we're into the double digits, aren't we?". One way
to curb you enthusiasm (maybe) is to promise yourself you won't get
anything new until you 've finished the work on your current machine.  I
hope to finish cleaning up the top of the 401A head today, and maybe take
the bottom cover off and clean up the "innards" tomorrow.  I am thus
avoiding going to any garage sales this weekend.  Besides, I'm feeling
guilty about finishing up on the 401 while I've let the treadle languish
for over a month now.

Question: Did someone recently advertise a fold-out box with a green
lining for sale??  If anyone did and it is still available, please e-mail
me directly.

Lydia in central Ohio, where an afternoon of thunder showers is beginning
to sound like a good idea.

                                  _   _
Lydia Pratt                      |_|X|_|
Columbus, Ohio                   |X|*|X|
lspratt@freenet.columbus.oh.us   |_|X|_|

Date: 24 Aug 96 11:23:16 EDT
From: Chris Vagtborg <71155.1072@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: post

Hi All...

For Mary L, re: cost for 401 needle plate - $8 + $1 SH.

For  Wilma  re: "66". Sound like Singer gave you the wrong info, as the 66 has 
a  drop  in  'round' (modern) bobbin. The "bullet" bobbin (as you describe it) 
sounds  like  the  shuttle  typically used in a 127 or 128 "Vibratory Shuttle" 
which  passes  under the needle back and forth in a short arc. As far as value 
is  concerned, I've learned that 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' as far 
as  these old machines go. You'll find them anywhere from $5 to $125 - I know, 
I  have...  If  this  is  your  first "old machine", and since it has the knee 
lever  (hard  to  find  part),  and if it's truly an '8' or a '9', and if it's 
less  than  $75,  go  for it! BTW, we have copies of the Instruction Booklets, 
Service Manuals and parts available for these and other old Singers...

For  Nancy Brown. Do not use ammonia based cleaners (Windex, etc.) or any type 
of  solvent  (alcohol  based,  etc.)  based  cleaners  as they will remove the 
lacquer  from the machine. Most folks here use things like WD-40, Murphy's Oil 
Soap,  or  STP's  'Son  of  a  Gun'  to  clean the grime safely off. Try other 
cleaners  on  an area that's inconspicuous, so it won't show if it damages the 
paint.  Clean  a small area at a time. This is a slow and tedious process, but 
the  results  are  stunning  on a machine in good condition (a '7' or higher). 
Many  here  finish  the  job with a good paste automotive wax. I've heard that 
guitar  wax  is especially effective on the bed as it's hard and makes the bed 
*very*  slippery  (fabric  slides  easily).  The  wood cabinet will respond to 
Murphy's  Soap.  Many here use a orange and bees wax cleaner, but I forget the 
name  as  it's not available here locally. Bobbie K, can you remind me? Nancy, 
we sell parts, including new treadle belts ($5 incl. postage for FWF).

For  All...  I'm  still  lookin' for a shuttle for a Jones Hand Crank with the 
hour-glass shaped bed.

That's  all  for  now! ...Chris on St. Simons Is., GA where I finally went sea 
kayaking yesterday through the marsh and to another island - awesome!

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 18:16:43 -0700
From: Bobbie 
Subject: SM Digest

Millie had a neat idea when she said she bought the silverware thingey.

Thought I would share with ya'll how I do it.  I bought a package (dozen, I
think) of those plastic salsa dishes at Price Club.

When I'm working on a machine, I use those for the screws, washers, parts, 
'cause I can pour the WD-40 into the dish, and while I'm doing other things on 
the machine, the WD-40 is working off all that horrid gunk.  I use a pair of
long tweezers to take the parts out of the solution.

When I work on the needlebar, I make sure the sole/foot, screws, thread cutter,
and all the parts taken off go all in the same dish.

When I work on the bobbin winder, I do the same thing; all those parts go in
one of those dishes.  Sure makes it a lot easier, as Millie said, to keep track
of what goes where when it's time to put everything back to gether again.

AND the plastic salsa dishes do no absorb any smell or the WD-40.  I hit them 
with the Industrial 409 spray, when they're empty, and wash them that way then 
drop them in the dishwasher.

Another great tool for working on these old machines are those great, blue
"shop" papertowels at Sams or Price Club.  Beats rags, which leave lint and

Hi everyone,

Just a little question.  I was at an antique mall today and saw a Necchi
toy machine.  It was in a green zippered case.  The machine was a crank and
sort of reminded me of the Singer tan machine made in Canada.  The machines
was light green and was pretty heavy.  Does anyone know about these toys?

        Betty sounds like the "Necchi Plastic Toy Machine" which was  a
        reproduction  of the new Necchi Supernova in the 50's.  Can you
believe they sold
        for $1.50?
        Today, they're worth between $25 &$35
         Maggie, Graham's SO, is the authority on these toy machines!

A friend of mine has a FW that has silver decals instead of gold.  It's got
the lift off tray for the box too.  Is this unusual for it to have silver??
 I've never seen one before.
Terri Janson in Michigan

        Terri, I've seen this happen when someone tries to clean the head,
        and uses  a modern cleaner, which ends up taking the gold off and
leaving the
        metallic  silver backing.

Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 18:16:38 -0800
From: "James M. Welch" 
Subject: Vaseline
Clay,  I would think that the Vaseline would break down in the heat put 
out by the machine a heck of alot faster than the grease.  Jim uses some 
type of grease that they use on vaccum cleaners.
Debbie at QPs in NJ

        Yes, but I read in one of my 1906 Singer Manuals, that "if you do
         not have the  Singer lubricant, you may use Vaseline with good
results"! And this
         is from the  "horse's mouth" (grin)

ThThTHaaaats all folks!

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 14:54:59 -0700
Subject: WANTED -- 201

I am very interested in purchasing a 201.  I'd prefer one in
excellent condition (an 8 or better).  If anyone has one available,
please e-mail details and price.  Many thanks.


Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 13:22:17 -0700
From: kbelsky@esu2.esu2.k12.ne.us (Kathy Belsky)
Subject: Boye needle case and other finds

This summer I found two of the wooden cylindrical cases for 1.50 each.  One
with a few needles in it for 6.50.  The yesterday, Im found the circular
case attached to a wooden base.  the drawer opens and there is a tray with
a few wooden cases  The top has a thing you can turn to choose the size
needle you want.  There were some cases in there too. Most had needles in
them   Couldn't really tell how many little cases there were.  Some were
stamped with Crowley rather than Boye.  They wanted $98.  Is this a good
price?  The wodden case was in pretty good shape, but the tin circular
thing on top was a little bitscratched.  Not bad, though.

This summer on vacation I found an old machine.  It was in a table, but it
wasn't a card table.  It was only about 15 inches wide and about 36 inches
long.  It looked like a table in a foyer to set mail on when you walk in
the door.  The sewing machine was not a featherwight.  I misplaced the
description I wrote down but the machine was in pretty good shape and so
was the table.  They wanted $200 for it .  I know that without knowing what
kind of machine it is, it's hard to say if a price is fair, but I thought
the table was pretty unique.  I hadn't ever seen one like it.  I believe
there was a drawer on ther left side and it had attachments and a manual in
it.  The cover was missing.  Anybody have any ideas about this machine?

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 16:07:09 -0400
From: McLehr@aol.com
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/23/96

General Information Flash:

Bob, my Singer guy at 908-355-1125 showed me a FeatherWeight, Serial
#AL167148 for sale for $185.  If I weren't so broke, I'd buy it. No case, no
attachments, just the little darlin as she stands.  I would say she's between
7 1/2 and 8...and of course, Bob has her all tuned up...he also has an old
Bernina in the window for $150.  Doesn't know the model, it has a shuttle
hook and the timing is tuned like a race horse, does straight and zig zag and
is excellent with knits....it's one of the smaller heads, so it could make a
good traveler...that's it for now, back to domesticity...laundry, vacuuming,
etc. (UGH!)

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 16:08:01 -0700
Subject: 401A questions=

I just got my second 401A today and see a several differences in the two 
machines. The interior of the cases is different,  SINGER printed in 
different style and color.  The one thing that really jumped out at me 
was the defferent stitch length plates and that the Singer 'shield' on 
one is the old style and the other has the red S with the lady at the 
machine.  I know that one is a 1951.  When did they change over the 
shields?  I have 2 centennials and know about their dates already.  These 
401 A's are really a neat machine!    Taria in Ca.

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 19:03:43, -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/23/96

  Anyone ever hear of a Naumann treadle?  Saw one at a thrift store the
other day.   It was missing the slide deal where the bobbin goes.  The
manual was all written in German.  Didn't appear to have any attachments..
but had some steel rods? in the drawer and some kind of a manual about
knitting w/them??? hmmm...   the cabinet was cool!
  They wanted $129 for it...and I thought that was a bit much since it
wasn't in primo condition, but it was kinda neat!

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 22:01:51 -0400
From: Pnwi@aol.com
Subject: Hinges


Does anyone have a source for a pair of hinges for a treadle head?  I need
the kind that fit into a round hole in the head and are recessed into the
cabinet top.  The head is a White, but i am reasonably sure that most of the
machines used the same the same type of hinge.

Four FWs and a bunch of others and still looking for a 10.

Paul Newhof

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 19:39:12 -0700
From: Judy 
Subject: Miniature Singer

Today I went with my husband to an antique mall and besides several sewing
machines of various condition, there were also two Miniatures.  One was
green, and in pretty rough condition.  The other one was a pretty, little,
black Singer.  It had a centennial emblem on the pedestal so probably about
a 1951 (think that's a pretty good year, since I'm a 1951 also).  There is
no ornate work at all; just the word SINGER (in gold) across the front and
back of the head.  The hand crank is black with a spiral-shaped spoke.  I
think it is a chainstitch machine, as there is no bobbin; just two rotating
hooks, one being wider than the other.  There is no serial number at all on
the machine or any other identification.
        It is 6" high x 6" wide and 3" deep.  There is a lever under the
needle plate (which is all silver); I think that this may be a stitch length
adjustment, but am not sure if there is such a thing on a chain-stitch machine.
        The foot is strange looking.  It is shaped like a long U with the
curved end folded towards the other end (back).  The shape of feet always
has something to do with its function.  This is the only foot that is with
this machine and I have never seen anything like it.  Also, from the thread
spool to the needle is numbered 1 to 6; I assume that this is the order to
thread it.  Problem is, I don't know how the needle should be put in it (the
one on the machine was broken).  Should it be threaded from left-to-right,
right-to-left, or front to back?  I tried using a needle for my Willcox &
Gibbs, since regular needles are too long.
        Does anyone here have any information they can provide on this machine?
Copy of a manual, identity of model, etc?  This is so cute, I would love to
get it to run.
        BTW, it cost more than I was willing to pay for it so I walked away.
But while I was elsewhere in the shop, my DH bought it for me.  Pretty neat,
Thanks in Advance
	E-mail   w567513@televar.com

From: KBEY09A@prodigy.com (MRS RITA R GUNTER)
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 21:37:03, -0500
Subject: Minnesota Treadle

I have found a Minnesota Tredle machine that I would like information 
about.  The only numbers I can find on the machine are Model A, and 
on the throat plate D1657093.  The cabinet is is good shape but the 
paint is flaking badly from the machine itself.  

What causes this paint flaking (it is coming off in flakes about as 
big as my thumbnail) and is there anything I can do to preserve the 
paint that is still on the machine? 

Can anyone tell me a possible date on this machine and how much I 
should pay for it.

Rita Gunter 

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 22:30:47 -0400
From: LFisher902@aol.com
Subject: Re: My 301 Story

Well, I finally have mylast and final  machine -the 301 I have been wanting.
 Had never even seen one til today.  It is quite a story.  Was at my mothers
, about 120 miles from my house and I took my DH to the Nipomo swap meet in
Central Calif.  I was talking about Sm's with another Sm person and he was
going to sell me his 301, which he had stored away for $130.  So I gave him
my phone number.  Another fellow heard us talking and he ran after me, when I
was walking away and said"  What kind of Sm are you looking for ?  And I told
him a 301.  Well he and his wife had one and they were going to sell it the
next day at the San Luis Obispo swap meet for $70.  It was tan and in a nine
condition.  Only problem was, it was with his wife in their trailer about 20
miles north. My Dh said"fine, lets go" So we drove about 20 minutes and we
had to find his wife , who was by the drive in swap meet area and she was in
a trailer with Alaskan liscense plates.  She could have been anywhere in the
city and I know I would have found her for that 301.  Well, we did and I now
have a very nice new family addition.  Thinks she has 12 other brothers and
sisters.  It took me two hours to figure out why my DH was so nice and
cooperative and even happy for me.  Last week , we bought him a new set of
golf clubs(anyone heard of Big Berthas?!)  .  I think I could get a few more
machines out of him for that!  Laura in Southern Calif
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