Featherweight Fanatics Archives

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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 00:10:10 -0700
Subject: Needles

Marge asked:
> My question is: where do you get the old needles that some of
>these require?  Are there needles today that will work on the old White
>machines?  We have a rotary from the 20's, and a vibrating shuttle from
>the 1890's.

My White Rotary takes standard modern needles; some older machines like my
Jones CS and the newer of my model 12'a can take modern serger/overlock
needles (my older model 12 and my German 12 clone take a straight shaft
needle with absolutely no flare at the top- a royal pain to find).  If you
have a needle that works in the machine, take it to a good sewing machine
repair/service place and see if they have that size.


Kathleen asked about a "plug " of felt or something in the bobbin area of a
Singer 99K:

I don't have a 99, but I do have an English- made Jones CS that has a
tapered hole at the front of the shuttle race (this is a long bobbin
machine, like the Singer 27).  According to the manual, this hole is
supposed to be filled with cotton, which is to be oiled an a regular basis.
The cotton releases the oil a little at a time, and lubricates the shuttle
race without leaking everywhere.  Is it possible that your 99K has a
similar bobbin lubrication system?

Katrina
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Subject: New Postings
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 13:35:07 -0700

Hi;

Posted two new Singer items to Sewing III page... a Singer stained
glass window and a Singer employee association medal.

Captain Dick
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 22:12:20 -0400
Subject: Finally an Auction with a Featherweight!!

DW and I have been averaged about 1 1/2 auctions a week since March, the
last time we saw (and bought) a FW at an auction.  Today was our lucky
day.  Went to an auction that was advertised in a major paper in about a
1 inch ad - a lot of fine furniture.  Hidden out by the garden tools was
the now familiar black box.  We got there early and scoped it out before
others.

We spotted a 1957 FW which was as close to a nine as we have seen in our
short collecting careers.  Looked like it had hardly been used at all. 
The perfect condition case didn't even have a bad smell!!  The
accessories box still had the tissue around the attachments.  Contained
a godzilla green case with a button holer.  Also had a tube of lubricant
but no oil can, manual or key.  Had a receipt in it - sold on March 3,
1958 for $119.50.

We searched the surrounding box lots and, in another row, came across
some sewing items that contained 4 bobbins and 2 keys to the case.  We
got that first for $5 before the FW was auctioned.

When the auctioneer finally came to it, started the bidding at $25.  We
rapidly got to $100, then the only other person bidding dropped out when
we hit $130.

Bought it home, serviced and cleaned it and it is running great!!  Will
keep us going to auctions for another 6-7 months.  There is hope!!

Chuck
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Subject: Changed it a little bit...
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 18:39:18 -0500

Hello All!
Just thought I'd let you know that I've changed my web page
a little bit.  Come on by and see if you like the changes.  
Lots of featherweight information on the web site!

Eya later!
Gail
http://www.icsi.net/~pickens
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:59:10 -0700
Subject: New Home

Was just at antique show and saw a New Home similiar to GT #325.  The
machine and decals were in beautiful shape although the paint was missing
from a spot about the size of a dime on the wooder knob of the handwheel.
It also came with a little wodden box about 2"x3" (just guessing size) that
had about a dozen tiny little bobbins, an embroidery attachment, a seam
guage and some Singer needles.  Also had the directions.  The dealer is
asking $290 for it.  Seems a little high to me; Glenda's book says $150.
This is in really nice shape and I can't stop thinking about it.  I checked
and the bobbin shuttle was there also.  
        Please respond back to me personally regarding the asking price?  I
walked away from it (he wouldn't take $200), but if the price is reasonable,
I could go back (40 Miles) tomorrow before the show closes.
        Thanks in advance,              
Judy 
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 22:46:13 -0400
Subject: 

Graham wrote: I'm not at all happy with this talk of 222K Centenial Singers.
The 222 was introduced in 1955 and took over the assembly line previously
used for the black 221. The white/green 221 was introduced at the same
time.I would be very suspicious of any 222 with a centenial badge. Let's
face it, these badges can be easily removed and swaped about from machine to
machine.

   I'm sorry, Graham, but your information is incorrect. I have to believe
the official Singer photos I have seen over whatever documentation you have.
Singer's information given out by their customer service might not be 100%
correct, but I guarantee the internal documentation I have seen (circulars,
incoming, incorporation records, stock records, financial records,
letterbooks, patent files, editorial dept photos, prototype drawings, etc.)
has been extremely thorough and exacting. In particular, every one of the
surviving editorial department photos I have seen are systematically
numbered and dated. Why would Singer take a photo of a 222k with a
centennial medallion and date it 8/12/52, unless that was the correct date?
And we all know Singer didn't use the Centennial medallion in 1951 only. So
why do you find it so hard to believe? I have seen some things that would
knock your socks off. But I'm sure you would consider them all a hoax also.

At this point I believe:
Black British 221K's were in production at least from 1947 to 1961
Black British 222K's were in production at least from 1952 to 1961
Tan British 221K's were in production at least during 1961. (But to give you
credit for moving the date up by a few years, these tan machines were on the
drawing board as early as 1954. Malcolm Park who was an extremely futuristic
designer, and designed the "Jetson" buttonholer case and the 40K toy, had
some bizarre ideas of his own about how the 221 should look and some of his
ideas seem to have been scaled down and incorporated into the tan 221 of 1961) 
White/Green British 221K's were in production from 1963 to 1968, and
possibly later.

Black 222's did *not* take over the 221 production line. They were most
definitely in production at the same time for approximately 9 years. I have
owned at least 10 222K's, and many of them had serial numbers much earlier
than black 221K's I have had. It is likely, however, that the tan took over
the black 221 assembly line. And the white/green most likely took over the
tan assembly line. 

Please understand I am just trying to get the facts straight. Please don't
take this as a personal criticism.

Krisi
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Subject: case mold
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 19:54:44 -0500

 Hi all, My sewing machine repair person said it is usually the GLUE that
holds the covering on is what is molding.  This is for the cases that after
wiping down the inside and out with Clorox there is still an allergy
reaction.  He said that several things can mold, surface, glue and wood, and
if the mold has gotten to the glue or wood and you cannot stand it to get
another one or to strip the one you have, wipe down with Clorox until you do
not have a problem, let dry in sun along time and them refinish it any way
you want.   Also that the glue used was usually organic, like horse hooves,
and his wife (who is allergic to horses) cant handle the cases for long.  I
was luck, just wiping down the surfaces and drying in the sun took care of
my problem.

Mary-Ruth
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Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:40:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/9/97

To HOPE:  FW bobbins can be purchased from Glenn Williams (Gwillie37@aol.com)
or Chris at Stepping Stones Quilts.

To KATHLEEN: Re:99K - Like you, I just bought a 99K and thought there was a
lot of red lint in the bobbin case area.  No amount of tugging would remove
it.  Then I spotted the spring and thought I'd better read my manual.  Sure
enough, that red you see is a trangular shaped felt oiling wick.  The red
felt you see is supposed to be oiled.  If you have a manual, it's described
in there.

To EVERYONE:  I just acquired a FW throatcover plate (no. 121309).  Is this
attached to the bed with a special screw?  Mine came with none.  Also, why
would they make this attachment when you can't lower the feed dogs or do free
motion quilting?  The plate cover is amoeba shaped :>)  Thanks for any info.

Diane 
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Date: Fri, 11 Oct 1996 22:19:59 -0400
Subject: Deluxe

Hello everyone,

DH surprised me and brought home a sewing machine today.  Now, keep in mind that
this man knows absolutely NOTHING about sewing machines.  He just knows I like
them.  When he said there was a machine out on the porch for me I took one look
at the rather pathetic case and smiled feebly at him.  The case is probably a 4,
maybe a 5 if you stretch a bit.  Well, did I get the surprise of my life when I
opened up the case.  In it sat the cleanest machine I have ever come across!
Even the undersides and insides are spotless!

The machine he brought home says Deluxe Sewing Machine, made in Japan on the
badge on the front of it and on the arm, in gold, it says John G. Myers Co.  Its
somewhere between an 8 and a 9 using Graham's scale.  The only marks on it are a
couple light pin scratches to the black paint on the bed and one spot about 1/2"
long and 1/16" wide that is gouged out right down to bare metal (wonder how they
did that!)  Otherwise, the gold doesnt have any wear at all.  It looks like a
pleated ribbon all the way around the base.  All the shiney parts are
immaculate!  The end of the arm is really pretty silver filigree and the same
filigree silver covers an opening in the back of the machine just above the
motor. The motor says Delco Appliance Division, General Motors Corp, Rochester
NY, made in USA on it and there is a service number 5047431 on it.  Did this
company have the machines made in Japan and then have the motors put on in the
US?  The bobbin loads in the same way a featherweight does.  The machine looks a
lot like an undecorated 201 (other than the name John G Myers Co, there is no
gold except going around the outside edge of the bed and a small amount of the
same design near the fly wheel) only with the light in the back like a 99.  The
only number I can find on it is on the underside and that is JF5471.

Does anyone have a manual that I could get a photocopy of if I paid for the
copies and postage?  If not, can anyone tell me anything about this machine?
Any clue how old it is?  How to thread it?  Any attachments that can be used
with it?  What bobbin it uses (has the thingy the bobbin goes in, but no bobbin
in it)?  BTW, it weighs a TON!  I mean really, really heavy!  Not something you
are going to carry to a class and Dh got it for $15.  Supposedly, the man he got
it from is liquidating a few estates and has a bunch of treadle machines, too.
DH didnt realize he was supposed to find out about them for me, so I know
nothing about them.....yet.

Sorry for the long post.  I just knew you guys would understand.  My entire
family thinks I misplaced a few of my marbles.  And I only have 4 machines!  Not
one of which is a Singer! LOL

Grins,

Theresa
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 12:22:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 99k manual

Hi all,
I am looking for a copy of a manual for a 99k from the early 60s.  Does
anyone have one they wouldn't mind sharing.  I will gladly pay copying and
shipping costs.  Thanks,

Pat (duck hunter's widow)
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Subject: godzilla finish
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 09:32:00 -0700

Friday I went to my favorite thrift store, and the manager asked me to 
identify an old Singer.  The poor thing is a 27 from 1902 that someone has 
refinished with the godzilla/crinkle finish.  They even "painted" the 
stitch length indicator!  The finish went all the way to the handwheel, 
which looked too small for the machine.  The godzilla finish was the most 
godzilla-like I have ever seen - very rough.  They had painted "Singer" 
back onto the arm in the style that Singer used when they came out with 
that finish.

The machine had also been electrified with a generic motor, which leads me 
to think a SM store did this.  One thing that puzzled me is that the bobbin 
winder was still on the arm just over the bed. It was in a great place if 
you have a treadle belt going down the length of the machine, but with the 
electric motor on the back and its belt going no where NEAR the bobbin 
winder, how would someone have wound their bobbins?

Oh, yes.  The case didn't even fit the poor thing, and the front slide 
plate was black instead of silver like the rest of the machine.  Needless 
to say, it didn't come home with me.

Sharon 
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:39:11 -0400
Subject: Thanks!

Thanks to all for the great suggestions for packing my machines.
Hopefully they will arrive in Paris unscathed. 

I will miss this list greatly but it is "Goodby for now". Once I get
settled, I will sign up again and will finally get my ISMACS
subscription sent in. Living in Paris, I am just too close to miss that
convention in London next spring. I will do my best to bring home "The
Prize FW"  :).  

Take care, Katy
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:53:38 -0400
Subject: Should I or shouldn't I?

    I was cruising the antique stores this weekend and spotted a strange
little machine.  It resembled a hand crank meat grinder, but the vendor
tag said it was a pinker.  It was black with some gold line decorations,
and a "built-in" table clamp (i.e. the clamp was part of the pinker).
The name stamped on it was something like Jos. Schul and Sons (don't
quote me on the spelling); there was some surface rust on the bright
metal parts, but in nice shape overall.  The asking price was $49.  I'm
half tempted to go back and get it, since I don't have a pinker in my
collection, but was wondering whether I'd be better off waiting for a
Singer pinker.  Opinions, anyone?

Thanks,

Susan.
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 18:55:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Bernina 1001

Thank you all for you help in my finding a Bernina.  I was looking for a
1000 but was led to a 1001 which was what I wanted after all.  I did want
the knee lever. Enjoy this fall.  

        My kind regards, to all.   Larry
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 16:04:36 -0800
Subject: Re: additions to website

Hi fellow fanatics,

Just a note to invite everyone to visit my website. I've added a few things
to my sewing machine pages. There's a new toy that taught me a lesson and a
new "For Sale" page to help my Mom recycle her sewing machine collection.
For now there are 3 toy sewing machines and 2 Featherweights. If this works
out well there will be more to come. She has a HUGE collection! All
comments and suggestions are welcome. Come and visit!

Happy hunting!

Gretchen
http://www.concentric.net/~gqmingal/gmcweb/index.html
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Subject: W&G
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 07:47:58 -0400

I hate to dispute Graham since he's been around these old machines far
longer than I, but after reading his note about there only being one "l" in
the name didn't sound right to me. I checked all my reference books AND the
three machines themselves and there ARE two "lls" in the word, HONEST!! So
the correct spelling is Willcox and Gibbs - unless the manufacturer got it
wrong, too!! Sue 
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Subject: Prices, yet again!
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:03:39 -0400

I enjoyed the recent note about the free enterprise system! I'm a BIG fan
of garage sales and thrift shops so really can identify with that concept.
I don't think most people will put something out for sale unless they've
already decided it's something they can live without and the matter of
pricing is really nothing more than a guessing game - no one can be experts
on EVERYTHING! A lot of us are more familiar with the "value" of old sewing
machines these days, but bet even WE couldn't agree on what a fair price
for a given machine would be - just too many variables!

Having recently had my OWN garage sale, I thought I'd share my experiences
as a SELLER! One thing I decided to sell was an old sewing basket - I'd had
it for years, but never could find a place for it, so decided to get rid of
it. I visit enough antique shops to know that it could probably bring at
least $25 -$30 at one of them (again it's all guess work!), but decided to
ask $5 for it. I was REALLY annoyed by an early shopper (obviously a dealer
from some of her other shopping practices!) who tried to get me to take
less than that for it, since I kind of had an idea what it was worth, so
turned down her offer. Not long after, someone else brought it up to me and
was just thrilled to be getting something like that for such a good price -
I was GLAD to sell it to her! 

There's obviously no right answer to all of this - don't think any of us
would want to cheat an elderly person out of their retirement income or
anything - but it's mostly just an example of one person's trash being
someone else's treasure. We're just doing some recycling - and having a
good time, too! I say keep looking for those bargain machines - it's much
more fun than paying full price! Sue
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Subject: Just one more thought on pricing!
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:57:17 -0400

 I just saw the following in a note from Bob Campbell in his TSM digest and
thought others might also enjoy it (who aren't members of that great
group!). He was talking about reproduction machines, but think his comment
could apply to all kinds of collecting!

"I often am able to "steal" a TSM for a very
low price and just as often I'm the one who is "taken" by paying a lot
as the result of my frenzied exuberance."

Enough from me on the topic - maybe it all evens out in the end?? Sue
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:30:47 -0700
Subject: no more musty cases

I think I have the solution to the musty case syndrome!  

Last Wednesday was my birthday and I decided that I would spend the day
doing what I wanted to do. Thought about it and, and it being a
marvelous Indian Summer day, my choice was to spend the afternoon out on
my deck cleaning up some FW's and cases.  I mean, what better way could
I spend a birthday???

I took 4 cases, lined them up outside on the deck for cleaning. Now, in
the house they had been giving off musty fumes for weeks/months while
waiting for me to pay them some attention. Anyway, I first liberally
sprayed them with DIAL Anti-Bacterial Spray Cleaner. Let that set, wiped
them down, let them dry in the sun. Later I sprayed them (again
liberally) with an aerosol silicone spray and, with a cloth, spread the
silicone around to be sure all spots were covered. Not only do the cases
NOT smell any more, but the silicone gives such a wonderful shine and
luster to the cases that they look wonderful (and any flaws are
diminished).  Bottom line is that the cases are back in the house and it
has been 5 days and still no musty odor!!

I hope this works as well for you if you decide to give this a try!

Millie 
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Date: 13 Oct 1997 11:20:42 EDT
Subject: 1891 VS2 &surprise

Hi Feathers,  I know it hasn't been long since we posted, but just had
to write and let you know about our latest find.  Last Friday went to an
auction (I'm an auction junkie) and bought an 1891 VS2, that had not
been stored in a barn for a change.  The decals are almost perfect, the
machine isn't frozen up, treadle works nicely, has the belt, and not too
dirty.  There is a little of the veneer that has been lost, but not
much.  The best part I think is that the puzzle box (full and in nice
condition) was in the drawer along with the instructions for it, the
attachments, and the machine.  ALSO a working buttonhole attachment
(last patent date12-13-1887 w/ other patents pending) It was in it's own
dovetailed wooden box w/ lid.  Stamped on the BH  were the
countries:France, Canada,Belgium,Germany,England, and United States.
Also stamped elsewhere :Singer VS2, and THE PEERLESS BUTTONHOLE
ATTACHMENT.  I had no idea they made buttonholers that far back, and
couldn't believe my eyes when we got it home and started looking at
everything.  Do you believe this?!!!!!  Doing an old lady's sm dance .  Marge  P.S.  No instructions for the buttonholer.
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 08:23:46 -0700 (MST)

Okay, help me, guys!  What do I have here?  I have a Singer sewing machine
that is obviously (?) a toy.  Base is approx 3.25" by 4.5" -- serial no. on
base is 29962.  It is a hand crank, there is a hole on the wheel where
therre should be a handle to turn the wheel.  There is a gear in the wheel
that the very strange looking bobbin thing turns on.  Of course, it's filthy
and doesn't turn very much -- I can't even turn the wheel all the way around...
the thread path is numbered.  It says " Made in Great Britain" on the front.
Has the little gold logo plate right in the center of the front bottom.

My husband bought the machine (by accident) at an auction in a border town
in Mexico. It was included in a bin of nuts and bolts and metal junk that he
bought for a song.  He likes the little machine so much that he won't give
it to me -- he will let me put it out so we can all see it, but I can't
'have' it!  

So, does this little thing have a name?  It has a lot of sentimental value
to us -- and if I would take it to my sewing machine mechanic he probably
knows right off, but I thought I would try all of you guys first.  

Thanks for you help --
Karen 
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:02:23 -0700
Subject: misc

I've never seen a $5 FW, but I came close Saturday. Went to a tag sale
and asked about sewing machines, was told that an antique was sold
earlier in the day for $10. The young daughter interjected, no, the
woman offered to pay $5 and she accepted it. Now, on one hand I'd like
to think  that some lucky FWF was the one who found this 'steal', but on
the other hand I'd HATE to think that some lucky FWF bargained a FW from
$10 to $5. Especially after the wonderful story a few weeks back about
the DH who paid 10-fold asking price of $35!!

After that near-miss, I went to an antique show where I was one of only
a handful of browsers. (Indian Summer at Cape Cod and no one wanted to
stay indoors!) A dealer friend dragged me over to a vendor where there
was a tsm/box on the shelf - well, it was gone!  It seems one of the few
people at the show must have been a tsm affectionato!! Hope it was a
fellow FWF!!

Millie 
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:59:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/11/97

In having a conversation with my dear stepfather, I found out how the
treadles were electrified. He did it! He said that when he was younger, he
would go up and down the street knocking on doors and asking if they wanted
their machine electrified. Then he would add a little motor to the back. If
anyone wants more information from this walking history book, I can ask.

Hugs from a lurker,

Ellen
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:11:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Singer and Pfaff attachments

Hi FWFs!  I have 2 attachment questions I hope someone can answer for me.  I
have a Singer attachment that looks like it may be a darning foot (but not
for the 222K).  It is curved with a hole in the center and has a little
spring attached.  Also has a little screw knob similar to a needle holder
clamp.  The number on it is Simanco 86294.  Does anyone know what this foot
is and what Singer machine it was intended for?

I also have a Pfaff Darning Foot (no. 46266) for my MIL's Pfaff 130-6.
 However, according to the manual, to use this foot you need an extra part
which I will attempt to describe.  It's about a 3 to 4" long silver rod.  The
bottom has a 1/2" curved C hook that slips over the machine thumb screw.  The
top part of this rod is straight with a 90 degree bend that goes in a hole on
the side of the machine.  Does anyone out there recognize what this part is?
 Does someone have one they are willing to sell or exchange for a Pfaff
darning foot?  My MIL's rod is broken in 2. I have 2 darning feet but no long
hook rod.

Thanks in advance for any help or info on the above 2 attachments.
Diane
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Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/10/97
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 21:23:05 +0100

To all (especially Willlllllcox and Gibbs fans

Big, big whoops from me. Got on my soapbox and told the world that Willcox
had one "l".

Now, on a slightly higher soapbox, I'm sayinmg it's got two.

Sorry folks.

The big ISMACS Contest

After much heartsearching and taking advice from many folk we've decided to
widen the scope of the contest to be held as part of next year's giant
ISMACS Convention.
Prize is the ultimate Featherweight, chosen from litterally hundreds
checked out around the world. This one will be as near perfect as it's
possible to get with every possible add-on. It will come with a brass
plaque (hung by a chain) stating it was first prize in the ISMACS
competition.
The competition will be open to any form of sewing machine craft -- quilt,
miniature quilt, machine embroidery etc with a bonus mark system if the
entry has an ISMACS/vintage sewing-machine theme.
Entries must be submitted at the ISMACS convention in London so, yes, it is
limited to those attending and we will assume permission for photographs to
be used in various publications, television etc.

If you need to know more e-mail me.


To Bob re bobbin and hook

This was not a Singer patent and by the time the FW came along the idea was
very long in the tooth.

Graham 
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 13:40:32 -0700
Subject: problems

Hi, I used to belong to your group (about a year ago), but had to stop
because of lack of time.  Now I need some help.  Do I need to subscribe for
this or can you put me in touch with someone who can help?

I have a FW A6619197 in perfect condition that I love.  Today I gave it a
complete oil job, but when I put it back together something went wrong. (I
used Nancy Johnson-Srebro's FW bible as my guide)  Everything looks like
it's working fine, but when I try to sew, the fabric does not move.  The
feed dogs are moving, just the fabric stays in one place.  Ofcourse then
the thread gets tangled up and jumps out of the top thread guide.  I've
tried adjusting the tension and turning a few other knobs but all that's
done is screw up the bobin tension.  At no time did I touch the needle
thread tension other than normal adjustment.

I'm desperate to get this fixed as I leave on Wednesday night for a
conference and I need my baby to work.  HELP  HELP  HELP!!!!

Tricia
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 21:45:37 +0000
Subject: ID Machine Please

A visitor to my web site has a machine she would like indentified. 
The maker's name has been worn off. It looks to be a clone of the 
Singer 27 but has a wheatsheaf or fleur-de-lis logo. 

I have put a jpg and a more detailed description on:

http://www.meiboku.demon.co.uk/sewmach/myst/

Thanks for any light you can throw on this.

Alan
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Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 20:40:27 -0700
Subject: 10/5/97 FWF

Ellen, I also have one of the little 100-needle Singer boxes as you
described. Full of needles, tho I have not confirmed that all 100 are
there.  Millie
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Subject: challenge quilts
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 09:57:01 -0700

I am going to enter one quilt by the November 1 deadline.  I have another 
one I've just barely started that I can finish by the quilt show in 
Indianapolis.  So count me as having two for the show.

Sharon
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:57:19 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Question on oil can

G'mornin', Feathers,

Sat. at an estate sale I passed on two Singer 101s with cabinets, manuals and
attachments and a little round oil can.  I could have had all of it for $25
but I didn't want the machines.  And I knew if I bought them, I wouldn't have
the heart to throw them out.  One of the 101s worked (well, at least you
could plug it in and get light, I didn't try the knee pedal out).

The oil can was silver, round and looked like something Dorothy would have
used on the Tin Man.  About 3 inches high, maybe?  It didn't say "Singer" on
it and for some reason I thought it should.  I also didn't see any part
number or ID on it.  Can someone describe the early oil cans for me?

The machine that wasn't plugged in (and from the looks of the cord I know
why!) was in a cute little cabinet with 3 drawers and fancy legs.  It looked
like an end table.  There were 3 drawers in front--the center one was about
8" wide, the left one was about 4"x4" and the one on the right was the same
size.  But when you opened it up, instead of a drawer it was a door that
opened up.  There was a little metal ring inside where the oil can would fit
and that was it.  

That little oil can is haunting me and I think I should have grabbed it.
 But, oh, well, I didn't!

Karen 
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Subject: Sincere serial # lists
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 21:30:56 -0400

I've put those serial number lists from Sincere's History of the Sewing Machine on our website. If you missed my previous post, they are tables of serial#'s and dates for older American machines (Grover & Baker, Wilcox & Gibbs, Wheeler & Wilson, and older White) taken from the book.  Most of the info is originally from the Smithsonian bulletin 254, by Grace Rogers Cooper. BTW - I'd be interested if anyone has the second printing of the Smithsonian book, c.1976, for sale. (Though I guess I could go to DC and read it in their library . . .)

Clay 
http://www.k2nesoft.com/~clay-l/fancy.htm
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:39:30 -0700
Subject: WILLCOX & GIBBS

For Graham:

I think I've got it figured out! WILCOX is the English spelling and
WILLCOX is the American spelling!!

I got out my WILLCOX & GIBBS instruction manual and, sure enough,
WILLCOX has 2 L's just as surely as GIBBS has 2 B's!!!

What say you???

Millie 
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 23:07:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Treadle Machine 1902

I have had a treadle machine as a gift from a friend whose parents died and
still had his grandmothers machine.  It is a 1902 Singer.  Is there any
material I can get to use for an instruction book...Any sources?  I did get a
new belt for it but want to oil and lube. it properly...it has all the
attachments and I would really like to try it out.
Any ideas or comments are most welcome.  Thank you
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Subject: needles
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:06:21 -0400

I bought a small red plastic matchbook-style box of needles, and I'm
wondering which machines they might fit:

The box is labeled: Excelsior Struck Groove, The Torrington Company,
Torrington, Conn. The needles themselves have cylindrical, not
flat-sided shanks as in "regular" needles.

Total length: 1 1/4". The groove begins about 11/16" from the top.
The needles also have "Torrington" and "16" engraved on the shanks.
 
Lois 
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 00:21:11 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tredles

The question about about why we went to electric instead of tredle was
retorical everyone!!!!  I  had a blast on the tredle I had just finished
cleaning and started sewing on a quilt block.  I was like a kid in a candy
shop....but when it is time for a serious repair or alteration I am back to
my 500A.

From the fun my Dachshunds had with the tredle footpiece I know why you took
the belt off the wheel even if you do not drop the head into the cabinet.
 Since it was not near a wall a grand time was had dashing across the
footpiece and barking at the spinning wheel.  With four of them it got to be
quite a racket.  

On the Mundolos machine, what I thought was a maple leaf is just a design not
a leaf.  Have not worked on it but it is different.

Got my ISMACS magazine today and was very pleased.  Good job Graham.  This is
my second issue since I joined and it was full of great facts.

Blessed Be
Moonsage
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Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/11/97
Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 21:23:16 +0100

To Patty re veneer

Use a modern PVA glue . Wax the top of the veneer first, Clamp up and then
release to wipe the surplus away. Re clamp with a sheet of polythene
between the veneer and the clamping board. When set the remaining  surplus
will just lift away.

Graham 
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 16:43:36 -0400
Subject: Thanks

I want to thank everyone who replyed to my call for help on getting a
zig-zag cam for my singer touch and jam (I mean sew) Thanks you guys
your great!! And thanks to you Sue for all your hard work to keep the
list going what a great group of people!!!frish
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Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:36:04 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re:Request for address of maker for FW cases

Hi, Sorry but somehow I deleted your message before I could send a reply.  If
you would send another e-mail I will be glad to oblige with Andy Fields'
address.  Thank you KnitQ
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:23:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Sewing Machines

Hello Everyone,  Have been catching up on reading lists and buying machines.
 I just realized that since joining this very informative list in July that I
have meet some very nice FWF's.   One I met in person as she lives near me in
Lansing, Mi and so we arranged to meet at Country Stitches.  Where else but a
quilt store....We had lunch and then went to visit her collection of machines
or rather she and her DH.  What an eye opening experience that was.  Ruby and
Gene have so many machines that it was mind boggling.  I later bought a 201
(AH627263) 1947? model, in desk (with ink well) from them, and it is a
beauty.  But, they introducted me to the 301 and I knew I had to have one,
(maybe two?) finally got one from Shelley in Northern California.  It is a
black short bed portable in suit case (NA059210) 1951?.   I have a hard time
deciding which one I like best so I use them all. 
 This meeting in Lansing started because I had found a FW, a real nice black
beauty that I had just purchase from Joanne in Iowa (AG874606)1946? and was
taking it to Lansing to show off to Ruby and Gene.  It is in really nice
condition, 8+.  It is now the mate to my White/Mint FW (EV967348) that I have
had and used well for the past 10 years.
Have met via e-mail so many other wonderful, helpful people with manuals,
comments, etc.  that I needed and information on my treadle machines.  this
is really a wonderful list....Thanks Sue...
My 221 seems to have a some black side attachments and one of its bobbins is
black.  The hand wheel is black and the thread cutter is black.  The face
plate is the older Egyptian style and the decals are the older style.  The
301 that I have also has some blackside parts.  Black screw holds the
pressure foot, the needle clamp, tension bracket on bobbin winder and the
thread cutter and it came with 1 black metal bobbin.  I have compared this
with another 301 and all of the parts I mentioned are silver color.
 Interesting.....Just wanted to pass this on  for any comments.....
I did find a Web Site, Gaileee's that had some interesting information on
Model 301 vs 301a that sounds like there is no difference, only maybe the 301
made first and then Singer came out with the 301a with no changes.? ? ? ? 

That's it for tonight, I know, I made this very long, sorry about that.

Pat
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 07:35:29 +0400
Subject: Houston Int'l Show

Hi, Fellow Feathers - Along with others who will be vending at the
Houston Quilt Festival, let me add my invite to visit Legacy Quilts, in
booths 1813-15, 1912-14 (to the right as you enter the hall, look for
Aisle 19 sign overhead, go down the aisle to the first cross aisle).

We will have our usual fine antique quilts, tops, blocks, vintage
yardage and cut pieces, and a LOT of Singer stuff.  Among the
collectibles are about a dozen oil cans, tall, short, dome top, and two
1-pint rectangular, one with a yellow label (unusual).  Also a
Singercraft Guide with extra size logo end, with a logo for the Chicago
Centennial as well as for Singer (in souvenir box), and other
attachments.  We also have original manuals for Singer 15-86,15-91,
128-23, 66, 66-16, 99, 101-3 & 101-11, 201-2, 404, 110 series
industrial.  And of course we have 221s in black, white, and tan,
centennial and regular (no freearms!) - as much of our inventory as will
fit in the car!

We would love to put faces to the names from FWF, so stop by.  Bring
this post and receive a free fat quarter of vintage fabric!
Xenia,
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:52:48 EDT
Subject: Instruction Booklet

Through my request for a 301 folding table in FWF, I recently was able to meet
two other Kentucky Feathers.  We met at a half-way spot and had a great time
trading SMs, tables, attachments and quilting fabric, in a parking lot!  We did
get some stares from other folk using the lot, but didn't we have fun?!  Now
I'd like an instruction booklet to go with the 301 tucker in original box that
I acquired along with the table - can anyone help me??
Sheila and Vern, really enjoyed meeting you and thanks for your help.     See
you in Paducah next April (unless we can come up with more swapworthy stuff). .
.
Connie 
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 08:56:29 -0400
Subject: The Challenge

Hi all!
I apologize for being unreachable the last few days/weeks.  I'm in
charge of a Fair this coming weekend and it's eating up all my time.
Just wanted to remind you all that the challenge guidelines are still
posted to the FWFanatics homepage and the deadline for submitting photos
of your entry and machine used is Nov. 1st.  

I'm sure you have read the invitation posted by Xenia Cord for our
entries to be shown at Quilt America in May, so lets get to work!
I'm hoping to get to this show and see them in person - you never know!
My challenge nears completion, but I'm getting nervous....better go! : )

Linda 
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 09:37:32 -0500
Subject: Houston and FWFs

OK, did I miss the notice of when and where FWFs are going to meet during
the Houston Festival?  Maybe sometime late Friday afternoon or early
evening?  I'll be wearing a feather on my lapel....

Sharon
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Subject: 99k
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 97 09:46:00 PDT

Captain Dick, your e-mail is bouncing. If anyone can help me out, please do!

Went for a road trip this weekend north of Los Angeles to Morro Bay. Didn't
find any treadles, but did find a 99k portable. Didn't buy it (yet) as I
felt I needed some expert advise. The machine is in about a 7- 8 condition.
Gold is intact, everything is shiny and clean. It is an EK (?) serial
number, which would be in the mid fifties? Had a little metal 99k under the
Singer emblem.

The case is intact, show normal wear and tear for a machine that age. The
footpedal looks just like the one on my FW and the light is in a plastic
thing on the back of the machine. The machine runs (has no attachments or
extra bobbins or instruction book.)

When the machine sews, it appears that the bobbin tension need some
adjustment, and the machine seems sluggish. The asking price was $65.00, but 

the lady said she would let it go for $50.00 as it needs some adjustment.

Is this machine one that I could get some use out of? Could I quilt on it?
Do the feed dogs lower?  Are there a lot of these around or is it considered 
a collectible?

Also, same shop had a "Compaq" sewing machine for sale for $15.00. It had
 no footpedal, and I don't know if there is a source for these. It was
interesting looking as it was all silverand kind of sleek looking.
Years ago, in the fifties, my mother had a "Compaq" canister vacuum cleaner. 

It was also silver (very heavy) was a strange shape and made a lot of noise. 

What about this one? Have you ever heard of it and how hard would it be to
find a foot pedal?

Thanks,
Nancy
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 13:29:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: "Smelly" FW and box

I have purchased a 1946 FW recently, and from the time I unpacked  it --it
has been giving off a terrible odor....musty, mildewey, moldy,  I don't know
which, but I have tried every remedy listed on these lists to no avail.  The
problem is not only with the FW box, but with the FW itself.  I have cleaned
it all out inside and of course the outside, and can't figure out where the
odor could be "clinging" in the machine itself.  It hasn't been inside the
box for a long time now, and it still is very offensive.  I too have the
allergy problem I have seen discussed on the list, and can't really stand to
be in the same room with my little FW for any length of time.  It is a shame,
cause it is a very nice looking and sews very well.  So if anyone has any
suggestions about how to get rid of the odor of the machine itself.  It
smells just like the box.  Has anyone else ever had this problem?  I have
heard complaints about the box smell but no one has ever said their FW
smelled too.
It really "reeks" and I am getting very frustrated, cause when I go sit down
in the room with it, my nose immediately gets all stuffy and my chest feels
heavy, ---- I love this little machine, just am having trouble living with
it..
Any new suggestions will be greatly appreciated.  I have even sprayed the
inside of the machine with a spray designed to eliminate the odor of mildew
that sometimes gets into the Air Conditioning vents of cars, so when you turn
on the AC you get that bad smell.  This spray worked on the vents in my car,
but not on this litle FW!  I am getting desperate. Help!!
Laura
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Subject: off line, and other news
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 16:58:34 -0400

Hi,

Well, our dear son installed a screen saver for me 10 days ago, and
although it worked beautifully, it blew my internet connection and another
program.  It has taken until today to figure out how to get me back on
line.

The big news is that our son and DIL out there in the wilds Colorado have
made us grandparents -- our first!  On 10/11 at 4:11 PM Sophia Paxton Grow
was born, 4 weeks early, weighing 5lbs, 12 ounces, 19 1/2 inches long.  My
dear husband's first comment was that if she stays as long and skinny
throughout her life, she'll have a great runway career!  We are so pleased.
 

There was much concern because Momma has been having contractions for at
least three months and was on heavy duty medication to stop them.  Last
week she spent an overnight in the hospital, but they gave her a heavier
dose and sent her home again, hopefully to be able to wait 2 more weeks
before delivering.  But Sophia, was anxious to be born, and just wouldn't
wait.  She was also a stubborn kid, and when the doctors tried to turn her
from the breech position a month or so ago, she wouldn't budge.  So
Saturday morning, when Momma started contracting strongly again, they
decided to take Sophia out by C-Section.  Mother, Baby, and Daddy left the
hospital this morning, only 72 hours after delivery.

I have a quilt made especially for Sophia, and only have to finish quilting
in her birth date in big block letters in the border.  There was space for
38 numbers, so I quilted in the three most  important phone numbers --
theirs, and the two grandparents' -- and her entire birth date.

Last night while on the phone with them I thought of a great present, but
Daddy will have to do the research.  I told them I'd pay for a week of
dinners, catered and delivered to their door.  Who wants to cook when there
is such a sweet thing wanting to be cuddled.

We won't get to see Sophia until Christmas vacation, when they will all
come East to spend a week with us.  Sophia is lucky in that she has 4
great-grandmothers, but one, with terminal cancer has been just hanging on
to see her born, so it is probably a good thing that she came early.  They
plan to travel the 6 hours to Alberquerque next weekend so she can meet her
first great-granddaughter.

Well, I've been off line so long that there were over 100 messages waiting
for me.  I'd better get to them.

Judy
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:01:28 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/11/97

Hello gang, 
I spotted another recent advertisement with a white FW in it.  Received
a Northwest Fabrics flyer for a sale from Octobe 2-11 and lo and behold,
there she is- on Page 6, left hand side, center.  With the presser foot
down on a quilt- pretending to do stippling! But it's definitely a white
FW.  

I know- I should know this.  I've been sewing quite some time with my FW
and never broken a needle.  But now I can tell the one I'm using has
worn it's point.  What needles should I be using???
Thanks for your help.
Kathleen
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:48:43 -0400
Subject: well its awfull.

Dear feathers; it is awfull, had a serious hardcore crash whatever hit the
earth and burned. Lost all my records, all my emails addresses, etc and
several deals that were in the making.  To the lady, who needed 206k parts
just got a lovely cond 9 206k can now try 306 parts and will also sell the
mint 206k. 
To all the folks interested in the Book, still mailing out copies now have
a loaner computer and am recieving email, need info on this great reference
book e mail me.

To Larry i , got a low price fw in, e mail me, got one more nice fw
today a 51 in cond 8.5, in case cond 9 with original book mint and original
attachments in mint box.  Also bought a 411G today, in cond 8 and also
bought a complete anniv 51 15-88 treadle. its a hopping, going to need to
sell all this stuff to pay for the new computer. Yes my old one in dead. 

To all the other folks that regulary converse with me, send me a message so
I can refull my directory. Thank you mike.
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:32:33 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 

Hello again,

Well a fanatic I am.  Thanks to all who have responded about the red oil
wick.  I'm sure glad I didn't pick it out!  I thought something might be
up when it was too hard to get out.

Why a fanatic?  Well this summer, my 21 year old was home working and
decided we had to do a quilt project together, thinking this will be her
last lengthy stay at home.  She made a beautiful barn raising log cabin
with Aunt Gracies and we had it machine quilted.  It was delivered to us
when I went to the Fargo ND quilt convention.  Beautiful.  (She was sick
of it by then and didn't want to hand quilt it!) But, when I saw the
quilt, I decided it needed an old wrought iron bed!  So auction hunting
we will go, and I did.  Sunday, drove 1 1/2 hours to the auction. 
Waited 7 hours.....(was dozing by 2:00 pm) but by 7:00 pm a couple of
the auctioneer's helpers were carring trunks up front so the next time
they came back for more, out of the side of my mouth I said, "Take the
bed, the bed, TAKE THE BED"  and they did!  After waiting this long, my
SIL said, "we're not going home with an empty pickup- even if I did grow
up on those things and they bring back cold memories.  Ya know" she
said, "we used to stick our gum on the bed at night and pick one off in
the morning along with a little paint probably, who knows whose gum we
got!" ;-D  (They had 13 kids, several to a bed!)  Well I got my bed,
for  a price more than I wanted to pay, but she was right, after driving
that far, waiting that long, I wasn't going to do it 1 or 2 or 3 or 4
more times, waiting for a better deal.  Come on, my time is worth
something.  So- I've already rounded up someone to sandblast it, and a
company that builds and paints machinery is going to do a new heat paint
deal on it (white) and by Christmas, my daughter will have a bed for her
quilt.  Okay, so this doesn't have to do with FW's exactly.  But thought
you might like to hear my story.  

She has taken one of my black FW to college and is finishing up a single
irish chain which she says she'll hand quilt this time.  See- FW's are
still going to college.  She's so proud of it.  And so am I.  The bug
has bit.  

Ta ta.  Kathleen
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Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/12/97 - Resend
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 19:37:24 -0500

To Kathleen, 
I checked my 99 K and it also has a small red plug of felt or
something beside the bobbin. As the machine  was in great shape
when  purchased and required no repairs I assume the above is 
for a purpose. 
To anyone reading this post I would be most interested in finding
a manual for the 99K. Would be interested in purchasing book or copy of
same.
Thanks In Advance   Please E-mail me with the cost
Pat 
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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 20:43:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Tension lost!

Hi Fwfer's

I finally have had some time to mess around with my Florence treadle that I
purchased this summer.  To my horror...I have discovered that the entire
tension assembly is GONE!  This is the back feed 1870 machine.  Can anyone
email or send me a close up picture of what it is suppose to look like?  I
found a large gear-like wheel that seems to fit on the post where the tension
is suppose to go.  It has gear-like teeth in the center where the 2 halves
match up.  Could this be part of the tension?  I don't see any disks like
other machine tensions have or the adjustment nut.  I really wanted to say my
Florence could sew.  Does anyone have ideas on how to make a new tension
assembly?  I wonder if I could use parts from another sewing machine head.
 Any help will be very much appreciated!

Another problem I encounted is with my Singer 500A "Rocketeer".  I was using
this machine to do some machine applique using the satan stitch.  Just before
finishing I heard the foot pedal sound like pop corn.  Also it felt quite
warm.  I let the machine cool off and finished up my project.  I hope this
does'nt mean something is going wrong with the foot pedal.  I have alreadly
burned up my 1934 featherweight's pedal not realizing I should'nt use it for
continued use (gathering yards and yards of lace for curtains).  Help!

P.S.  I need the porcelin part for my FW foot pedal.  Can anyone supply it?

Thanks so much for listening

Terri
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Subject: Strange Happenings
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 18:09:59 -0700

Hi, all

Well, all clear came a bit ago.   A nice young policeman... in combat
dress wearing a pistol and two grenades (presumably gas) and carrying
an assault rifle rang our doorbell and said we could go out now.  

We watched the news right after that and they covered the 4 hour
standoff.   Seems someone in the house 2 doors up went berserk, beat
up his housemated, took one hostage, or at any rate wouldn't let him
out.  The other housemate got out, badly beaten, and a neighbor
called 911 for him, instituting the stand off.   Cops didn't know if
the guy was armed or not, so took no chances.   Appears he wasn't. 
They finally talked him out of the house.]

I would have to say that the police were impressive, and apparently
did a very good job.

Now we can relax.   Certainly one of the more bizarre days in our
recent lives.   And full moon isn't until tomorrow night!

Captain Dick
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Subject: Amoeba shaped plate --
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 21:02:37 -0500

Diane  wrote:
>To EVERYONE:  I just acquired a FW throatcover plate (no. 121309).  Is
this
>attached to the bed with a special screw?  Mine came with none.  Also, why
>would they make this attachment when you can't lower the feed dogs or do
free
>motion quilting?  The plate cover is amoeba shaped :>)  Thanks for any
info.

This cover plate was BECAUSE you can't lower the feed dogs.  With it
installed you can do free motion stitching.  Seems to me it was described
in Mary Brooks Pickens book but don't hold me to it.  I got mine when I
took the free course offered with my FW in 1955.  Can't recall what screw
was used, but it seems to me you used one from something else.........  The
cover plate to the buttonholer works for this same purpose... Covering the
feed dogs.  I have two modern era machines -- the 920 Futura II and the
6268 which have cover plates because the feed dogs on these do not lower
either.

Barbara 
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 09:56:48 -0400
Subject: Need info on 15-91

Hello,

I'm hoping to get some information on a machine I just picked up.
According to Singer, it is a 15-91 and it is a Centennial.  This machine is
a condition 8 or possibly a 7 since it has some minor chips in one small
area.  I think the cabinet is a No. 72 and it has it's bench with the
attachments and original lube inside.  The woman I got it from didn't have
the foot pedal and cord, or couldn't find it. She may be calling me.  We
tested it using the hand wheel and it makes a perfect stitch.  Can I take
the pedal/cord from my FW and plug it in?

What I would like to know is...was this a good machine?  I'm still learning
about the old ones so I value all your advice.  I paid $35 for it and I
think the machine is beautiful.

My Singer inventory now consists of two FW's, one 1955 and one CENTENNIAL
that I got a week ago(Condition 8!! and the case is not stinky!) ...two
Centennial models in two weeks!?  A treadle, a 1927 99, a 66 Red Eye and a
301A.  Phew!  I didn't think I was a collector...

A review of the 15-91 would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Lisa
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 12:02:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: ARGHHH!

Went cruising garage sales last weekend, we won't have many more
opportunities here in Canada once the smow flies!  Driving through a nice
old neighbourhood (yeah, maybe they're cleaning out Grannie's attic?),
spotted a sale, spotted a 301 case, drew to a discreetly screeching halt
(you know what I mean).  Sauntered up the driveway, checked a few old
books first, quietly opened the case.

Went to the home owner and asked, "Where's the sewing machine that used to
be in that case?""Oh, that's gone" he says "Did you see what I have in there?"

Yes, my husband's version of a favorite boatanchor (he has two plus): a
Commodor 64

Sigh.

Judith 
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 15:04:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Restoration or repair manual?

Hello,
Can anyone suggest a good repair manual for the Singer FW?  Also, is their
some kind of reference I could find referring to restoration or manufacturing
practices of this same FW?  
Thank you,
Janice
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 13:07:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/12/97 - Resend

For all you SM fanatics, CLOTILDE notions catalog (FREE) has 11 small
cloisonne sewing machine pins at about $5 each.  No FW but all are cute.
 Call 1-800-772-2891 for catalog. Love the newsletter.    Pat
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 17:41:14 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Restoring FW Case

Hello Feathers!

I would like to restore a FW case.  Have any of you tried this before, and if
so, could you offer any suggestions?  I'm particularly interested in what
fabrics or material you used for replacing the covering, and what glue would
be best.  I need something that would be forgiving, and allow me to move the
material around until perfectly positioned, then have it dry hard, permanent
and smooth, without bubbles and bumps.

My case has the stitched on handle, so carefully cutting around this seems
the method most suited to removing the outer skin.  Also, the paper hinge on
the inside is tearing and losing it's capacity to support the lid.  Any
suggestions about replacement material for that?

Thankyou,
Janice 
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Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 21:01:34 -0700 (MST)
Subject: Thanks to a Feather

Hi Fellow Feathers.....Just want to let this group know that it has hepled
me with that large toy fire truck.  Thanks to  FWF  Bev in Calif, the
firetruck is safe  in Calif.  Bev drove here to Tucson to visit her
daughter, (and to do some quit and fabric shopping), and was so kind to take
this huge toy truck back with her to my friends in Calif who had bought it
from a store here.

Thanks to all the rest of you who responded to  my call for help in shipping
this item.  I have lost out on sewing machines because people are unwilling
to ship large items. Now I know why.  Shipping is a real problem.

Anyway, just thought I would encourage others to ask for help in
transporting items.  Since we all seem to travel a lot, it is nice to have
some one lend a helping hand. Who knows, maybe someday we will have our own
Sewing Machine Underground Railroad system.

Many thanks,

Priscilla 
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 07:01:54 +0000
Subject: Auction Story

I went to an uncatalogued auction yesterday and after viewing decided 
to go after an ED 99K. Nothing special but very nice condition. 

Entered the auction room to bid a few lots before my machine 
was due to come up. 

Just making my way through the small crowd when I hear the 
auctioneer say: "Lot number...(didn't catch which)....a Singer 
Featherweight Freearm compact sewing machine...." 

WHAT!! How did I miss viewing THAT!!!
 
"...There are book bids on this. Starting the bidding at 20 pounds"
(32 dollars US)

Keep calm, try to get a look at the machine. The porter is pointing 
underneath a table. Ah! that explains it, it must have been hidden 
out of sight under there.

 "..20..22..24..26..28......28......28 at the back...30 anywhere?" 

Down comes the gavel. 

YES!!! A Freearm! :))...made in 1994:((........in Taiwan :(((

Forgot to bid on the 99K.  Oh well, chin up, there is always the 
antiques auction tomorrow.....

Alan 
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 05:10:16 -0500 (CDT)\
Subject: Refinishing cases

First of all, thanks to those who responded to my query about the bobbins.
Your answers were kindly and helpful to a newbie.

Now I have another question and I thank you in advance for any advice you
could share.

My FW case is not very attractive.   The outside of the case has been well
used, to understate it greatly. The fabric covering has worn through on the
corners and the wood that is showing through looks somewhat chewed up.  The
handle is okay but looks ragged and chewed also; the latches close nicely
and look fine.

The inside is covered with a type of embossed black vinyl which is in very
good shape and cleaned up very nicely.  The smell cleaned up, too, although
after reading a number of posts I realize that the musty smell, which was
not overpowering,  could come back. I put a bag of coffee and some fabric
softener sheets inside.  (I did want to share that charcoal, vanilla, and
lots of sunshine eventually got the sour milk smell out of a car trunk in
which I had forgotten a gallon of milk for three days, so the combination
might work on a musty FW case! The milk had not only soured but had burst
out of the top of the jug, so it was pretty nasty . . .)

My question is -- since the FW case is functional, would I hurt the value of
the machine and case combination if I refinished it?  And if it would not be
heresy to refinish it, have any of you done so or know of someone who has?  

Another option would be to buy another case of some kind to take to
workshops and such -- I've gathered from your posts that there are new cases
of some kind that might be available (?), and to put this one away and leave
it alone.

I would appreciate your input and suggestions.

Hope
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Subject: Singer 200
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:24:05 +1000


 I am interested in purchasing a Singer Featherweight and was wondering
if the 200 is a Featherweight. I have just learnt that my aunt owns a
Singer 200.  Can you please give me some information on this machine.  I
have not seen the machine but I know it needs a new belt.  Can you also
let me know where I can purchase one from.

Thank you.

Lesley
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:30:45 +0000
Subject: WANTED

I am looking for a sewing table to go with an antique Marguerite sewing
machine.  This machine was made by the Household Sewing Machine Co.

TIA,
Ida
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:16:14 EDT
Subject: 14th Annual American Quilter's Society Quilt Show & Contest

Above show will be April 23 - 26, 1998, in Paducah, KY.  Workshop registration
information will become available November 1st.  Send name & address, plus $1
to:  Workshop Information;  AQS; PO Box 3290; Paducah, KY  42002-3290.  I
understand there's no accommodations, or very little, left in Paducah; however,
the Paducah Tourist Board will send a listing of hotels, motels and B&B in
surrounding towns, plus information about airports, etc.  - 1-800-723-8224.
See you there.
Connie
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 13:53:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Needles & Shuttles

Hello,

Was poking around in an antique shop and found some baggies with Boye wooden
needle cases and shuttle cases.  I spent the 2.00 and brought a large bag
home with me.  I now have a large assortment of needles, in many sizes and
shapes that I will probably never figure out what they go to, but I also have
6 shuttles, none of which are the same as my Eldredge treadle or my Minnesota
A treadle.  2 have no markings on them and on the others I have a #22, #13,
one just marked boye, and 2 #25 and 2 #15's.  

Does anyone have any idea what these shuttles might fit? Maybe I need to buy
some more machines

In the wooden tube with one of the shuttles was some very old paper crumbled
in the bottem, I fished it out very carefully and it was an advertisement for
Boye.  On one side it advertised the Boye Needle threader and the other side
stated "This is a Perfect Shuttle"  The thread is passing over the shuttle
and gathers oil, and cheap oil turns the tread yellow & stains the garment.
 If you use "Boye" oil it will not discolor either the thread or the garment.
 Makes the machine run light & quiet and prevents rust.    Save work - keep
an assortment of bobbins for different sewing and colors of thread. 
  Now where can I found some old bobbins, so I can save work?
Hope this is not to boring but I thought it was interesting "for the price of
$2.00"

By for now,

Pat 
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Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/13/97
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:04:43 +0100

To Karen re oil cans

The earliest  Singer oil cans are the standard  "half sphere" design and I
believe all had the Singer name  embosed on them. Theye are not silver but
nickle-plated steel.

To Clay re Smithsonian book

Maggie Snell often has  copies of the Grace Rogers Cooper book , second
edition which was much enlarged over the original- but be warned they are
collectors' items in their own right and tend to be expensive. Contact her
at maggie@ismacs.u-net-com  I declare a bisiness interest here.


Re Willlllllcox and Gibbs

Boy am I taking a pasting over this one.....

Did no-one tell you guys that I'm sensitive....?


To Nan

Contact the Singer number at the bottom of this digest with the serial
number. They will tell you the model and perhaps provide a manual. If they
can't mail me.


Graham
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 19:52:38 -0500
Subject: International Quilt Festival in Houston

This is an invitation for any Fanatics who want to meet during the
festival to come to an informal gathering at my house on Friday, Oct.
24th.  (If you aren't going to the Festival, but still want to meet
other collectors, you're invited, too!)  Starting time is 6:30 PM, but
feel free to come by any time after that -- I know it will be difficult
for some participants to get away that soon.

I'll have some things to munch on at hand, so you don't have to stop for
dinner ahead of time.  If you have machines or any other treasures you
want to show off, feel free to bring them!

If you have any questions, or you need the address/directions to my
house, you can e-mail me at terric@neosoft.com, or call me (713)
660-7529.  I've been out a lot recently (my father-in-law is in the
hospital, but is getting better) so if you leave a message, be patient
-- I'll get back to you as soon as I can!

Hope to see you there!

Terri
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:14:21 -0400
Subject: December Mini-Convention

Hi:

Just a second request for those of you who want to attend the DECEMBER 6
mini convention / party.  In August I indicated that my wife and I would
be hosting a Swap Meet/Party/Mini-Convention in December and we received
enough positive indications from you to plunge forward. So here are some
details:

Date: Saturday, December 6, 1997
Time:  11:00 A.M. 'til early evening
Place: About 4 miles North of Annapolis, Maryland 
Food: We'll provide all the goodies
Open to: Little Stitchers, Featherweight Fanatics, Toy Stitchers, ISMACS
members
Please bring:  Machines and accessories for sale and show 'n tell  or
simply show up for a good time.

We live near historic Annapolis and the U.S. Naval Academy, and are
about 30 minutes from Baltimore's Harbor Place and of course about 40
minutes from Washington D.C. so you can plan some side trips as well.

If you have not already done so, please email me confirming your intent
to come, number in your party, how much table space you'll need, etc.
and I'll send you detailed directions as well as the location and
reservation phone numbers of a few nearby hotels if that is part of your
plans.

Talk to you soon.
-- 
Bob
http://www.erols.com/quilts/index.htm
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Subject: White/Tan/Green/Mint
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 17:50:11 -0500

Help me here folks -- I see all these descriptions used, and I suspect some
of them are the same thing.  I have seen what I consider to be a "mint
green" FW, and a "coffee with cream" tan one.  Is this all there is except
black, or are is there an honest to goodness white one and another shade of
green????  Also note that the ISMACS recognition manual they describe FW's
as black, and turquoise.

Barbara 
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 20:22:14 -0700
Subject: What Machine is this????

Hi, Feathers,
   One of my sister guild members wrote to me yesterday with the
following - if anyone has any ideas for her, please let her know, as I
don't have a clue! Thanks - 
Becky 
I have a question about a weird old treddle I saw yesterday. Its not 
a singer, or  a white or national or anything else I know. It has a 
lot of orange striped decals and says in big letters on the machine 
that say  "vertical  feed"  The  feed dogs are on the top of the 
presser foot (looks sort of like a walking foot but the footprint is 
oval shaped)  and it has 2 pressure devices on the presser foot for 
different thickness of fabric I guess.  No feed dogs on the bottom at 
all. 

Its accessories attach by a cone shaped thing, that looks exactly 
like a Bernina. Oh and it has a long bobbin.

The cabinet is unusually curvy for a treddle.

Any idea who made it? Surely "vertical feed" wasn't a brand name. 

Any info greatly appreciated!!!
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Subject: Greist attachments
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:15:09 -0500

Dear FWF's:

Yesterday, I was given a Greist buttonholer in original box -- all
templates, parts and the instruction book.  The manual was printed in 1956.
The box is brown cardboard and the only writing is on top:  GREIST Products,
Rotary Buttonholer.  There is a little light rust on the bottom of the
buttonholer and it definitely needs oiled.  What is the best way to remove
rust from this? Are all  Greist parts/attachments usable on a Featherweight?
What is the history behind Greist? Were they just an attachment making company?

  I also received with the above, in no box and with no instructions -- four
other attachments --with no part #'s on them at all, but I do recognize
them.  There is a seam guide, a ruffler, a pleater and a one inch hemmer.
The ruffler has a little rust too, but  will probably clean up easily.
Could these be made by Greist too?  They look like the Singer attachments
I've seen, but no Simanco is anywhere to be found on them.  Where can I find
instructions to use these attachments?

I was at Zeporah's Quilting Seminar this week (held at Cedar Lakes Confernce
Center, Ripley, W.Va.)  I know that there were at least 50+ FW's in running
condition there.  If there was a wrtten form for Santilla's survey I would
have handed them out!  I noticed in the survey results that there were not
very many from W.Va. -- they are out there!  

Patti 
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 00:52:03 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 10/14/97

Hey, Feathers--
On 10/14/97, Terri  wrote:

"Another problem I encounted is with my Singer 500A "Rocketeer".  I was using
this machine to do some machine applique using the satan stitch.  Just before
finishing I heard the foot pedal sound like pop corn.  Also it felt quite
warm.  I let the machine cool off and finished up my project." 

I think that anytime one uses the "satan stitch," one can expect the whole
works to run hotter than, uh, well--you-know-where!  :-)


Terri, thanks for providing my laugh of the day!

Regards, 
Mary Ann
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 08:30:43 EDT
Subject: NOTE 10-17-97 08:27:47 AM

Remember our recent discussions of the toilet tissue TV commercials showing
women using knitting needles to quilt the tissu?.  Welllll, last evening I was
watching the corrected version where they are quilting with regular needles
when it dawned on me that whomever designed the revision evidently was
determined to keep the knitting needles in - the middle lady is wearing them in
her hair!
Connie i
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 17:21:10 -0700
Subject: case cleaning, clarification

Just to clarify about my FW carry case cleaning:

I do inside and outside both with the Dial and Silicone. And the Dial is
not hand soap but rather a fairly new Fantaskik-type cleaner. Sorry if
earlier post was vague ..Millie
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Subject: Fun Project
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 22:39:09 -0700

Hi, all

did a fun thing today.   As the result of several requests re wiring
of SM's, I have written up a pamphlet on the subject, complete with
diagrams.   Eventually it will be incorporated into a revised update
of the Field Guide, but that's a ways off, so I'll do a pamphlet in
the meantime.   However, I wanted to check all the various diagrams
for different ways that different machines are, or can be, wired.  
So I made up a demonstration board.   I mounted a motor, a
controller, a light, an on/off switch, and a cord with a wall plug on
a board.   Then I installed wiring posts by each component and made
up a set of connecting wires, so that anything can be wired to
anything.   Finally, in the middle, I put three posts just like the
standard Singer three prong plug.   Now I can test and/or demonstrate
all aspects of SM wiring to groups or whatever.  Or talk someone
through the actual process by having them connect the wires and see
what happens.    Also, before I commit to the pamphlet, I can test
each diagram fully, so no gremlins creep in.  A real fun deal.   I
can't actually complete the work and testing as I have a housefull of
guests starting to arrive for the annual ventriloquism group meeting
here.   Our 13th year.   We have vents from as far as Tennessee,
California and British Columbia, plus many from Oregon and
Washington.

I'll finish the wiring project next week, and then let you know about
the availability of the pamphlets.

Captain Dick
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 21:11:00 -0400
Subject: Standard Sewhandy

Hi Everyone:

Just this past weekend I picked up a beautiful Standard Sewhandy
(predecessor to the FW), black with all attachments in perfect black
case.  My question concerns the stamping on the lower front center of
machine which says: "Manufactured by the Osann Corporation, New York,
NY   Successors to the Standard Sewing Machine Company". The manual has
a date of 10-24-34 on the back cover.  I thought that Standard sold the
rights to the machine to the Singer Company in 1929 (per FW Book) - so
how does Osann Corporation get involved in 1934?  Anyone know???
Thanks, 
Janet
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:57:11 -0400
Subject: singer oil can

i noticed on the post  someone was saying that the yellow oil can was
unusal.i got one at a garage sale on sat. it was in a box of junk
perfect condition and never opened.it is the 40z.one with a price of
39cents stamped in brown.i guess i will be looking in all the junk boxes
after this.our garage sale season is about over as the weather is
turning
cold.                                                             
evelene
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Subject: Hi
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 06:53:17 PDT

To Nancy the 99 is a very nice sturdy machine, but the feed dogs do not 
go down. It would be great with a walking foot ding staightline wuilting 
or if you have a feed dog cover simular to the one found with the 
buttonholer you may be able to fee mothion quilt (I have not tried that) 
To Laura The smelly Machine is quite common especially if it has been 
setting in a smelly box. There are a couple of things that may help rid 
at least your machine of the smell. On the bottom of your FW there is a 
screw unloosen this and take bottom off, there is a flet pad that fits 
in the bootom, get some new felt (regular, sold any fabric store) 
andreplace that offending felt piece, nest all the felt pads that are on 
the machine either cut new round pads for the screw on the bottom and 
the spool holders or go to your local sm place and buy some. Now the 
case clean well with a solution of mild bleach and water, repeat severa 
times, air for several days in the open air, stick an Dr Scholls foot 
odor pad in it and see if that helps.
To Kathleen use 15X1 needles 
Have not found any FW lately but have just aquired a Singer 24 handcrank 
in excellent condition. Fall and the end to garage sa=es has come upon 
us very quickly but have been enjoing the riot of color as we travel to 
do our workshops on FW care. There is still time to sign up for 
workshops in Benton Harbor, Kalamazoo, Plymouth, and Flushing  all in 
Mi. Check out our web page for further info or contact me privately. Off 
to Quilt retreat for the weekend. Ta Da. Nancy 
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Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 17:05:43 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Do I own a centennial model?

Model #JBO38874
With blue & gold plate "1851-1951"
Burbundy and "wicker" colored tan case

any info would be great.
Tony
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Subject: 99 Book
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 22:32:04 -0700
 
Exenia,

You say you have an original book for the model 99 (electric?). How
much is it? I haven't been able to e-mail you at your address on several tries, so I am trying through FWF.

Bill
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Subject: First Treadle Adopted.......(long)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 09:55:22 -0500

Having looked and looked at the garage, estate and flea market sales here
abouts, I finally ran an ad in the paper for old machines, and also
advertised on a radio program.   The radio brought more results than the
paper -- I am beginning to suspect that this is a non-sewing machine area!!
I already told you about the 9 treadle machines in such sorry shape; since
then have viewed a number of others in similar condition.  I am just not
into that much veneer work (read that as DH is not going to do that much
veneer work )

Last weekend two women called back to back with machines and we went Sunday
after church to see them.  They were even in the same part of the county! 
Both turned out to be 127's and the one I brought home was the better of
the two, has lots of attachments and the cabinet is not TOO bad and was
half the price.  DH said buy it, you gotta start somewhere.  The gold work
is shot, so I'd have to rate it a 3 on Graham's scale.  I am calling it my
"training wheels" project.

The machine had been in the same family all its life, belonged to the
mother-in-law of the lady I bought it from.  Said lady's name was Pearl, so
of course the machine is now "Pitiful Pearl" with hopes of looking much
better soon.  Singer gives her birthday as 7/20/1917.  

I only found one totally restored machine in an antique place in another
town and considering the work in this one, I probably should have bought
it, but as I said, we need the learning experience.... and yes, the DH is
starting to get intrigued with the old machines.  Wondered if he would!! 
So the quest goes on for old machines.

Barbara  

PS:  Only two callers admitted to having FW's.  One had given hers to her
daughter who she said never uses it and what would I pay for it (sight
unseen, mind you).  Said she'd talk to her DD and call back.  Has not done
so.  Another lady has two and is planning to make her retirement nest egg
off them. 
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Subject: Collecting
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 06:19:51 -0400

I think I've come to the conclusion that there are two sorts of collectors:
those who actually plan on USING their machines and those who really only
want them to admire on a shelf or resell someday! I'm not sure just where I
fit in: I DO love to sew and frequently use my old machines for that, but
have so many now that I can't possibly get to them all! Which brings me to
the REAL point of this note.

I recently was THRILLED to purchase a really lovely model 500a (the
Rocketeer - my very favorite Singer!) at an estate sale - only to discover
when I got it home that it was frozen solid inside!! After a WD40 soak
followed by an oil bath, it's now running all right, but I'm afraid this is
an example of beauty being only skin deep! I also have another machine that
I was using today: a model 401 that I bought only because I loved the art
deco cabinet it came in. This machine has obviously been WELL used (lots of
the gold work has rubbed off so you can hardly read some of the letters!),
but it runs better than many of my more "beautiful" machines! 

So I think if one is a sewer, you really do have to look at these machines
from the perspective of more than just appearance. I know many say that you
can usually fix the ones that don't run, but this experience has made me
wonder just how good it is for machines to just sit there and not be used?
I'm in BIG trouble if it's NOT good for them because I have too many to sew
on them all the time! I've also heard people speak of not wanting to USE
their pretty machines for fear of lowering their "value" - but then what
are these machines really FOR?? I don't think a machine that looks nice,
but doesn't sew well is really "worth" as much to me as one that I can use!
But then that's only MY perspective! Sue 
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 11:49:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Trade cards spotted

Hi!
	If you are in the market for Singer bird tradecards go to
http://home1.gte.net/bmcpeak/gallery.htm where you'll find a guy with 20
sets of the 1927 version for only $16 per set. That's only $1 a card so
you can't beat the price.  No affiliation!

Happy collecting!
Krisi 
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 16:44:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: mystery machine

Hi everyone, I purchased this sewing machine the other week and I can't find
anything about it anywhere.  It's obviously made in Germany, this is the
thinest sewing machine I've ever seen and packs up real nice into it's own
case.  Some things that may help with the identification is that the hook
and bobbin assembly is the same as the 221/222/301.  The women who I
purchased this machine from had circa 1930 on the tag but really I think she
was also guessing.

This machine sat for well over a year in her antique shop and I'm beginning
to think maybe I should have left it there, AH" but what the hey, that's
what collecting is all about-taking chances!

Now I have asked previously about this machine and it was manufactured a
little to late for my regular guys and gals which all are experts in earlier
sewing machines and can't help me with this one :-( If this interests you or
you think maybe you can attach some history to this machine head on over to
my webpage where I have some images posted.  When you get over select
"Mystery Machines" from the index and this will take you over.

Like always, thanks to all for the kind words and help I receive.

Bob
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:50:12 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Smelly FW-Lora 2U

Hi FWF,
I'm new to this group so what advice I can give to Laura may be old news.  If
it is I apologize, only trying to help.  I have come across several stinky
221's.  I went to Wal-Mart & in the dept. where the moth balls, clother
hangers, etc. I found a product called "DI-GAS".  I put it & the machine in
the box & leave it.  When you go back to it a week or so later BE CAREFUL to
NOT inhale--the fumes are really strong & can overtake you.  It has worked
for me.  I leave the little bag of di-gas in the box when I have my machine
in it's table.  I hope this helps you Laura.  
Joy
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 20:34:18 -0400
Subject: FW 221-

I recently bought my one and only Singer Featherweight 221- to take to
quilting classes.  According to your guidelines, I would say it is an
8+.  My husband took it apart and cleaned and oiled it, but a friend
told me I should use lubricant on it.  Last Monday, I drove 50 miles to
a shop in Dayton that services FWs, and the man who does the servicing
wasn't there, but the lady I spoke to said he doesn't use lubricant
anymore, just oil.  My question is whether I should bother looking for
lubricant or just be happy with regular sewing machine oil.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Sharon 
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:05:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Drawer pull for a Model 15???

Hi all,

I need a drawer pull for my Model 15,  It is an oak cabinet from 1902.  One
of the drawers is missing the pull and hardware.  Anyone out there have any
idea's on where to find a replacement...or what to do?  Also I would love to
know what is suggested to clean and restore the oak...The coffin type box on
top also has a few spilts...anyone know what to do for it?  Thank you, thank
you, thank you for all your help.  A friend gave this to me  (it was his
grandmothers) and I would love to restore it as best as possible and
hopefully run it.
Nancy
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 16:15:55 +0100
Subject: FW case replacement

Thanks to everyone who cares for this list!
For a temporary case for your FW check out the hard plastic file cases.
Easily found at Office Depot or Target/Walmart stores.  The FW fits
perfectly.  Personally I don't trust the plastic handle but it would be a
snap to fashion a web-strap or a canvas bag (Moonsages' idea!) to make it
safe.  I too would love to find a carrying case but have heard they are as
rare as hens teeth.... Any information about the "new" cases?  Anyone have
one, do you like it? 

  Just a few questions:  How many FW were made?  Do I stand a chance of
finding even one more, with all the "lucky finds" I read about on this
page? How many SM can you own before you are considered a COLLECTOR, (I
heard 6 of anything and your a collector)?  Is it ok to cut my own little
piece of red felt for the spool "thing", and pretend?  Does anyone else
have names for their FW?  

Lin 
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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:39:23 -0700
Subject: queries

Hello all,
   A friend bought a beautiful FW the other day.  It came with just about
everything ever made for a singer, including a key #124428.  Does anyone
know what this key fits?
  Also, I am in need of a bottom plate for a 222K.  Cardboard just doesn't
do the machine justice.  I anyone has one that can be spared, let me know
and perhaps we can reach a mutually satisfactory agreement.
  Thanks.
Rick
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Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 18:50:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: latest sightings


I was in an antique shop yesterday and saw my first Willcox and Gibbs.  (2
l's and 2 b's).  It had a motor on the right side of the base.  The motor
seemed very large compared to the machine. The tag said 1871 sewing machine.  
I know the dealer probably got the date from a patent date.  Does anyone
know exactly when they started putting electric motors on sms?  BTW the
price was $279.

The DD picked up a 306 for us and is bringing it up tonight.

I was talking to my insurance agent today about my homeowners insurance
and mentioned the sewing machines.  I told her I knew they would be
covered by my contents insurance but would anyone believe that I have 27. 
She said, yes, she would believe me because it's too fantastic for anyone
to make up.  Well, she made a note that I have a collection.  Now I want
to get busy soon and make a list of what I have.  

Happy FW hunting.

Marilyn
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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:40:23 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Freearm

In a message dated 97-10-17 18:56:36 EDT, Alan writes:

>> Keep calm, try to get a look at the machine. The porter is pointing 
 underneath a table. Ah! that explains it, it must have been hidden 
 out of sight under there.
 
  "..20..22..24..26..28......28......28 at the back...30 anywhere?" 
 
 Down comes the gavel. 
 
 YES!!! A Freearm! :))...made in 1994:((........in Taiwan :(((
  >>

Alan, what a roller-coaster ride of emotions!!!! I'm sorry that it wasn't
what you expected but I enjoyed this story.  I've never had anything this
disappointing happen to me at auctions but there have been similar cases of
my bidding on something that I had not really looked at and then the reality
was a bitter pill to swallow.  

Good luck at your next auction!!!

Judy
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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:12:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Identification of White FW

Last weekend I had an opportunity to add a new white FW to my collection.
 When we called Singer on Tuesday for the "born on date", the woman insisted
that what we really have is a 99K.  Are these two models so similiar that I
could have mistaken one for the other, or is this just another case of
possible misinformation?  The machine has a Serial #EV869804, and on the base
to the right side of the light switch has printed 221K  The Singer Company
 made in Great Britain.  It came in the standard little green and white box,
etc.  Also, the machine was in filthy condition.  After cleaning it up and
picking chunks of heavy grease out of the feed dogs anda ball of thread from
the bobbin case area, it runs very well, however I do notice an odor coming
fron the vents of the motor when it is sewing.  It doesn't smell like a
burning odor, more like an oil or grease smell.  I will be taking it in for
service as soon as I can get back down to the New Holland area (about three -
four hours away) but wonder if I will damage it if I use it before then?  Any
suggestions?  
P.S.  The lady I bought it from also had the card table  and a beautiful
condition 301 longbed (black), which I tried to buy also, but she did not
want to sell :>((  However, I did leave my card and begged her to call me
when she was ready to sell.
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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:03:31 -0700
Subject: refinishing treadle

Greetings feathers, I just inherited my grandmothers treadle.  It's been 
in storage since the 50's.  It's a 1920 model 15.  Terribly dirty and 
not in great shape.  Lots of pits on the sewing surface.  But so neat 
because it was hers.  My grandfather painted everything with black 
shellac.  I'm even wondering about the machine itself.  I decided to 
refinish the cabinet and that's going well.  Should I repaint the black 
iron treadle?  There is alot of rust with the dirt.  I think the paint 
will protect the iron.  If I do, should I repaint the "Singer" letters 
gold like now? Would like to hear from someone who's done it.   I'm 
going to clean up the machine but leave it alone.  I don't want to lose 
more of the decals.  TIA Ingrid 
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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 15:56:08 -0500
Subject: Sewing Machine Underground Railroad System. 

OK, let's try out the SMURS.  I'll be spending a few days in S.C. over
Christmas (leaving from Longview, East Texas). No room for treadles (which
I realize is a bigger shipping problem than portables; however....) but
room for a portable in a case.  I'll be basically driving along I-20
between Longview and Columbia S.C.  Please e-mail privately if you have a
question about possibilities.

So how many entries in the Challenge?  Or will anyone know until Nov. 1? I
have two (24x24 wallhangings; no time for anything bigger).
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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:35:08 -0700
Subject: blackside Featherweight

Hi,
I purchased a prewar blackside featherweight at a garage sale this
morning.  The handwheel turns a little hard and the needle does not go
up and down.  Can anyone give me some hints on what I might try to get
this baby going.  When using WD40 in the oil holes do you just oil as
normal, run the machine and then re-oil with regular sewing machine oil?

Is there something else that might be broken or put back together wrong
that I might look for?  

On the outside of the machine, what would be best to use for cleaning?
I've used baby oil in the past but this machine is dirtier then any of
my other finds.

I've never seen a "blackside" featherweight before so I'm pretty excited
about finding this one. I also bought another prewar at the same garage
sale.  Imagine, two featherweights at the same sale!  Both were missing
the foot pedals but she's taken my number and is looking for them.

Keep hunting, they're out there...Kay
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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 19:48:46 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Which SM do I need?

Hello!

Time to go SM shopping.  I need a machine that is an older model and  have
just a few requirements.  I'm not sure which one to invest in, can you help?
The ability to drop the feed dogs (quilting), reverse, zig-zag, buttonhole
capability, are basically all I need. I've been leaning to the 401A, but I
just do not know enough about the different models to make an informed
selection. Does anyone have a recommended model available?

thanks, Elaine
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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 16:16:56 -0700
Subject: a black 301!!!

Fellow Feathers! Never give up the ship! It has taken me 3 years but I
finally found a black 301A. I had all but convinced myself that they had
never been marketed in New England, but now I know that they were. This
one was advertised in the newspaper as 'Singer sewing machine, $100.
When I called the lady said it was a 50's machine (tell me more!), black
(yes!!) and Singer's first slant (Bingo!). She never once mentioned the
model number but I knew it could only be one thing!  It comes in a
pristine maple cabinet and is a beauty. Of course, I cleaned her and fed
her some oil (and the growling of the motor disappeared) and tested her
out last night. What fun we are going to have together!  It did not take
long for me to decide to keep her and moved out my cabinet Necchi to
make room for her.  I think I'll post an ad in the newspaper and try to
trade this multi-stitch Necchi for a plain old straight-stitch Singer...

Oh, by the way, I happily paid asking price. 

Lucky me! Millie 
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