Featherweight Fanatics Archives

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 1997 22:43:06 -0500 
Subject: 9W7 Singer

Does anyone know about a 9W7.  We got a treadle and the booklet called it
this.  We had a head earlier and Singer called it a new family made in 1879.
This is the one that takes round bobbins and is full rotary hook.  The hand
wheel turns away from you.  The lady at Singer thought it was industrial,
but the industrial division said it was a family machine.  Very confusing!
Rachel
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 06:39:06 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/23/97--musty smell

Hi everyone,
Since there were a few postings a while back about 'baking' your FW in your
car to get rid of the musty smell, I decided that my oven could probably do
the same.  (We have too many trees to shade where I park)
First I wiped it out with a mild soap & bleach solution and them turned my
oven on low just until it would heat up.  Then I turned it off & put the case
in. I left it in a couple hours.  I just did that the other day, so I'll let
you know if it remains successful.  I tried to be careful not to overdo it &
dry it out too much and I may have to do it again.  It probably didn't get as
hot as your car does sitting in the sun.

Gail 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 09:43:15 -0700
Subject: Machines sighted

Hi Everyone (and Moonsage in particular),
	
	At a local antique mall one vendor has two Singers.  One is a
Centennial 99 with the Godzilla finish in a bentwood case.  The case is
in very poor condition with a hole in the top and the finish completely
ruined.  The base has had one end replaced  with a piece of pine.  Price
is $125.  He also has a Singer treadle serial number beginning AF.  This
machine has the upper tension on the side of the machine behind the face
plate (scrolled).  Much of the gold is missing, but the paint is ok. 
The cabinet is in poor condition, much of the finish is missing as if
the cabinet has been exposed to weather.  Also priced at $125.  I'm not
interested in either of these machines because I feel their conditions
are far too high for the asking price.  If anyone else would like to
check them out, they are at Dawkin's Mercantile and Antiques in
Prosperity, South Carolina (right across from the Rexall drugstore that
still makes old-fashioned cherry cokes and other fountain drinks).  The
beautiful cabinet I saw there last weekend is gone.  I hope it went to a
SM lover!  
	Does anyone have any info on a Vertical Feed SM?  I have found one that
is interesting.  It is in a beautiful treadle cabinet and has some
attachments.  The decals are all there but the paint seems sort of rough
and bubbly.  The decal on the bed is in a sort of trefoil shape.  The
machine had once belonged to her 90 + yr. old aunt's MIL.  Mice have
chewed up the book.

Laura
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 09:01:34 -0500
Subject: Question/treddle

Hello!  My sister purchased a treddle machine for me at a garage sale
yesterday.  It is made by Davis S.M. The last patent date on it is July
12th 1886.  The serial Number is #1003079.  It has the original belt and
bobbins and buttonhole making hardware. I am in the process of cleaning
it up and would like information on the machine as well as knowledge on
where or what kind of needles to use in this machine since i plan to use
it to demonstrate quilting at a festival in october.  It was in a
beautiful ornate cabinet that is in so-so condition.  The machine has
traces of a yellow and red flower design remaining on the body.  All
your help would be greatly appreciated.  This is my first purchase. 
Please give me the value information if you know.  I need to know if I
was taken or not.                                         Rhonda
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 09:53:50 -0700
Subject: Nice Find on FW

Hello All
I believe this is the first time I have posted a question on this 
very informative media. Although I have had dozens of featherwieghts and
have been in the sewimg machine business for over 30 years, I bought
a f/w yesterday that I have never seen before.  I hope someone reading
can offer some information on it.  It has an emblem that unlike the
regular one,or one celebrating the 100 years of service by Singer, it
has one celebrating the 1939 worlds fair in San Francisco. My question
is this, how many  machines have this emblem? Any information will be
greatly appreciated. Please e-mail.  Thanks  Jim 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:11:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics "need help"

Had a wonderful time on vacation "exploring" antique shops, neighborhood
sales etc.   Had several finds that I carted and shipped home.   Now, as a
new first time fw owner, I need to identify some of those finds:
a:  small case 11 1/2" by 10 1/2" by 4" deep.   Case opens to have pictures
of
     gauging, braiding, darning, cording, embroidery, buttonholing etc. and
little
      little compartments for machine attachments.   Lots of attachments in
each.

b.   In the center of above leather case is a "singer pinking attachment"
that is
      huge.  Instructions inside say for using "hand operated Singer ball
bearing
      PINKING MACHINE 121379.   However, the machine inside definately
            
      attaches to a singer. At the bottom of the box is a receipt from John
C. Mac
      INNES CO. of Worcester Mass. G St. 2 for .11 cents dated May 23, 1943.

c.   Also in this box is a singer buttonhole attachement #121795 for singer 
       Lockstitch  and the buttonhole attachment.  

d.   In the same box is a "brand new" Instructions manual for the electric
sewing 
      machines 99-23 & 99-24.

Can some one tell me about these things?

I really enjoy the FW Fanatics and appreciate the posts.   Its so much fun to
be part of a large group and learn about some of this history of sewing
machines.  I hope to attend the alameda get together.
thanks,
carol  
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 14:10:34 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Handcranks

Does anyone know where I can find just the handcrank assembly for old 
Singers and Wilcox and Gibbs sewing machines?  I also need a spool pin 
assembly for my Wilcox and Gibbs.  If anyone can help me I'd really 
appreciate it.

Also my friend is still looking for a manual (copy) for her Spotless 
Special by the National Company.  

I have some recent finds to report:

A Spartan in 7 condition for $10.

A 15-91 for $45.

I also bought a motor on Ebay Auction for my treadle head Wilcox and 
Gibbs.  Unfortunately it was sent through the US postal service and the 
foot pedal was broken in half and also cracked on the heel part.  Does 
anyone know how I might be able to repair this or replace just the shoe 
part of the foot pedal.  The motor works fine so I don't really want to 
send it back to the seller.

Graham, thanks for the W & G motor idea.  You suggested it quite some 
time ago and now I'll actually be able to use the machine.  I'm looking 
forward to it.  I've been using cone thread and a cone thread holder 
since this is the Wilcox and Gibbs that is missing it's spool pin.

Take care everyone.

Sincerely
Mary
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 15:12:21 -0500
Subject: Almost a Featherweight!

Hi all-

Been a while since I have even been able to read all my FWF digests, but am
now back in the swing. 

My sister called me yesterday to tell me about an old sewing machine she
bought at a garage sale for $30. As she began to describe the "little black
case" I was about to hyper-ventilate! I told her if it was a Featherweight
it should be pretty light. Unfortuantely, it's not a FW. The brand is
"SIMPLEX". It's a little black machine, with the fancy scroll plate, a light
attached in back and is not very light.

Does anyone know anything about this machine??? I haven't seen it yet but
she said it was in excellent condition.  Also could use a manual. I haven't
checked the FWF web page yet for any info on this model.

Hopefully I'll get a chance to check it out in the next week or so.

Thanks,

Brenda 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:02:46 -0400
Subject: Singer and Wheeler & Wilson

Haven't posted anything on FWF in months so decided it was time to write.
We've been on vacation and a couple machines followed me home. One is a
Wheeler & Wilson hand crank with the last patent date being 1854. It is
solid black with no gold trim and has a glass presser foot.  At first I
thought it might have been repainted but on closer inspection I don't think
so. It's in very good condition.

I also bought a fiddlebed Singer.  Think it's one of the early 27's.  Not
in the best shape, but I bought it for the cabinet thinking my Singer New
Family would fit into it - wrong! I learned a lesson not to commit all my
machine's sizes, etc. to memory. The New Family is much smaller and will
not fit. DH was not real pleased with that purchase because he had seen the
machine several months ago and wasn't that impressed, but he was looking at
the machine and I was looking at the cabinet (two drawer with extension
leaf and coffin lid) which has been refinished. Paid $85 for it and
hopefully when I call Singer they will tell me it was made in the 1880's -
that will make me feel better! Passed up a Willcox & Gibbs and when we went
back to get it, it had been sold.
    Didn't see as many FWs on this trip as I usually do, in fact I only saw
one - the same one I saw several months ago - an AM in about a 6 condition
for $395.  A little to steep for me.
   I'm begining to think I must not get out much - seems prices have really
gone up in the past year.  The machine/cabinet that I bought was the only
one I saw that was priced under $100.  Most are $275-450 for machines in 7
(at best) condition and the standard 4 drawer cabinet. This was in the
mid-Atlantic states. Has anyone else noticed the trend?  I can understand
prices going up some but...
    Since I didn't see many machines that I couldn't live without, I
decided to check out the sewing accessories - really enjoyed doing that,
but it's much more time consuming. The favorite thing I bought was a sewing
basket that had a brassiere pattern in it. Knew I had to have that pattern,
especially since I just bought a book, dated 1921 by Mary Brooks Picken, on
how to make underwear and lingerie, and the pattern is from that same time
period. Needless to say, I'm very glad that clothing styles have changed.
   Two weeks ago my SIL brought me a Singer 15-30 in a drawing room cabinet
(looks like it might be walnut).  Made it all the way from West Virginia
without any problems, but as she was turning into our drive, it tilted over
and broke the window out of her new Blazer. Both the cabinet and machine
survived without injury.
    Sorry this is so long...guess I'm making up for lost time.

JP
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Looking for Knee Lever
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:34:08 -0500

Hi Feathers
	Looking for Knee Lever.  Haven't bought any machines in awhile - so this
one my DIL picked up for me.  It is a 99 - April 13, 1926 - really old, and
has wear on the gold.  However it is missing the knee control lever, so I
can't even try it out.  Does anyone have one that would fit this machine
that I could buy?????  It came in a brentwood case - shows wear, and
missing metal that would keep it closed.  I don't know how to explain this
(part of the lock).  Any suggestions?  DH is now cleaning this machine up -
also put on a new belt. 
Happy Stitching - Betsy
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: OT: Pincushions
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 16:00:00 -0400 (EDT)

> 	I've been reading the posts about the rocking chair pin cushions....
> One local antique mall has miniature white metal sets that look like lawn
> furniture, sometimes with pincushion seats, that are advertised as being 
>  made by prison inmates.  

	I'm guessing that these metal lawn chair pincushions were also a craft
project in the '60s.  I have one that I received as a child from a "crafty"
type woman.  It was originally a beer can; the top was cut off, the sides
slit into 3/8" strips, and the strips woven and curled to make the back and
legs of the chair.  
							Susan
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 17:51:12 -0700
Subject: willcox and gibbs treadle

Hello,

I've been very lucky finding FW in my area.  Got 3 at garage sales and
one at a second hand store.  I've also been noticing the Willcox and
Gibbs treadle shown on many of the internet sites.  Can anyone tell
me whether this is something I would ever find at a garage or estate
sale (or second hand store)?  Do I need to be shopping specifically at	
antique stores to find one of these babies?  Also, wondering what the
going price would be for one that is in good or better condition and
actually works.

There was an electric one at the Portland Antique show but they wanted
$250 and it looked like there were pieces missing.  I was there on
Saturday.  I think I saw where someone here may have purchased that one
later for a lot less. 

Anyways, I have an AH machine also and was told by Singer that this was
a celebrity machine.  Well, I thought the Singer emblem on the front
of the machine would be different for such a machine.  Not sure what
they meant by celebrity.  I read where someone else with an AH was told
it was a rare machine.  I don't think this is correct.

Kay
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 20:25:13 -0700
Subject: treadle needed in Oregon

Greetings, friends. Writing today to help out a friend in Oregon
(between Sisters and Bend) who is looking to purchase a full size
treadle machine which works. She wants a 'workhorse', not a show piece,
for when the power goes out. Cabinet should be nice but again, not a
showpiece. Since it is not practical for me to ship from the East Coast,
I am hoping that not far from her will have a machine to sell. Please
email me if you can help out here! Thanks. Millie  
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 22:14:49 -0700
Subject: Southern Calif FWF Gathering

Here is the information on the San Diego Quilt Show.  The dates are
Friday  August 8th through Sunday August 10th. The hours Friday and
Saturday are 10 am to 6 pm and on Sunday 10 am to 4 pm.  It will be at
the San Diego Convention Center 111 W. Harbor Dr. The taped information
number is 619-443-2706. No children under the age of 6 will be admitted.

"HappySocks" shannon@earthlink.net has posted a notice to the FWF board
that the Southern California FWF=92s will meet Sat Aug 9 at 11 am at the
back of the hall where the stage is.

I had proposed a gathering some time ago.  Unfortunately for me,  I will
probably have to work all three days of the show.  Thank you
"HappySocks" for taking the ball and running with it.  If I am able I
will try to make the Saturday meeting.  I had thought about trying to
make the meeting at some other location in case there were any FWF=92s wh=
o
would not be interested in the quilt show.

I hope to have two machines available by that weekend for sale. Will
post details to the for sale postings. Also know of someone who has an
early 1935-1937 Featherweight for sale. E-Mail me privately and I can
give you the person to contact if you are interested.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 1997 23:47:08 -0600
Subject: wilcox gibbs single needle chainstitch

Can you send me some history on this machine?
thanks
gena
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 01:48:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 185J

Hi,
We found another little treasure at the flea market today--no SM tables, tho.
 This one was a 185J.  I've read some of the comments about finds recently,
but didn't have any idea what they were & didn't remember Captain Dicks
comments in his book.  I had the center page copied in my pocket, but it
wasn't listed & had to wait until we got back to the car to read about it.

The paint is in very good condition--a couple nicks in the paint & along the
edge of the flywheel and the lens is gone from the light.  The machine
cleaned up nicely & runs much quieter with oiling. The case needs some
cleaning up & it looks like it has some fine paint overspray on it.  Anyone
have any good ideas on what to use on that?  We haven't tried Goof Off or
Oops on it yet.  WD-40 doesn't do it.

There was no manual, bobbins or attachments with it.  I'm not convinced about
the seller's story.  She said she used it a lot outside until she got her
computer machine.  Not knowing the manufacturing dates then, I asked her how
old it was--the foot pedal reminded me of the ones on our 20's machine.  She
said about 12 years!  It was very dry; I had to wiggle the flywheel before it
would move the first time & could hardly budge the bobbin cover. There was
lots of dust bunnies in the bottom.  She (or someone) has had it for sale for
a long time.  Inside the case was a date stamped Nov 27, 1962. The masking
tape with the price on it was on the dry side & left the tape residue on the
head.  The asking price was $30, but when I went back with a $20 bill she
took it. :-) I expected more dickering.

It's a nice little machine, but a heavy son-of-a-gun!
Gail 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 00:46:55 -0400
Subject: My 2nd posting to the list

Thanks again to all you FWFs who responded to my first posting.

I must be living in FW heaven because after looking for my first FW for
almost a year,  I found my second FW at an estate sale less than one week
after finding my first.  Luckily the ad for the sale said  "sewing
machines"  and luckily again there was a phone number because the sale
was in a town about 40 minutes away that I  never go garage saling in. 
So I called and there were two machines one of which was a FW which the
woman said  was in its case with a manual and she wanted $100.00 for it. 
I asked the woman to hold it for me and I loaded my two-year old twins in
the car and ran over there as fast as I could.  When I got there there
was a line of people waiting outside the house to get in and I thought
they would kill me for cutting the line but I just said that I was there
to see Barbara and I scooped up my girls and ran in.  It was upstairs
with my name on it.  I plugged it in and it ran and I grabbed it!  This
one was much dirtier than my first one but with all the great tips I got
from you guys I'll have no trouble cleaning it up.  Its an AF (I  haven't
called for its actual birth date yet) and it came in its case with the
original manual (dated 1937, 1938 & 1939) and all the original
attachments (foot hemmer, adjustable hemmer, binder, tucker, ruffler and
cloth guide) plus a zig zag attachment with manual, blind stitch
attachment with manual, two buttonhole attachments both with manuals (the
older one w/o the templates and the newer beige plastic one in the green
egg-shaped case), extra buttonhole templates in their original box, three
(!) bobbin cases, an original tube of lubricant (is this still okay to
use?), a Greist Edge stitcher, seam guage, feed dog throat plate cover,
and a couple of packages of needles!!!  And all this was $100.00!!!  The
owner's daughter (who sold it to me) said that she used to work for
Singer so I assume that is why there were so many attachments (I didn't
even realize when I bought it how much there was).  When it rains, it
pours!  I also picked up a very nice little sewing cabinet (the label
says "Perfect Sewing Cabinets Manufactured by The Caswell-Runyan Co.
Huntington, Ind.") for $25.00 which the FW looks perfect sitting on top
of (does anyone know anything about this cabinet?)

One more question for all of you:  I am thoroughly enjoying this list and
am totally amazed at how much all of you know about sms.  All I know I
have learned from you guys and the sm web sites that I have been surfing
for the past two weeks since I found my first FW.  I ordered SJS's new FW
book but I would also like to learn about other sewing machines and what
to look for (you guys have got me itching to collect everything I read
about - which is not too hard for an incurable garage saler!)  Is there a
reference book out there that is good for a beginning collector?  I just
borrowed from the library "The Sewing Machine: It's Invention and
Development by Grace Rogers Cooper (it's the Smithsonian book dated 1969)
and "Sincere's History of the Sewing Machine" (1970) but haven't gotten
around to looking at them yet (I've been spending too much time surfing
the sm web sites and not enough time cleaning up my machines and sewing!)
Are these any good and are they the latest editions?  My father is also
bringing me my late mother's old Singer sewing machine which I used as a
teenager and which I know was converted from a treadle and I'm very
excited to see what model it is and what attachments there are.  My
sister also has two treadle machines in cabinets that she just uses for
tables (with the machines hidden inside!).  I'm going there next week and
I can't wait to see what they are (she also said that she knows there are
some attachments in the drawers).  If I ever get a bigger house (we're in
a very cluttered condo right now thanks to all my garage saling!) I have
to try to talk her out of those machines!

Thanks again for all your help.   I'm so glad to be part of the FWF
family - you guys are great!

Nadine 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 07:23:26 -0400
Subject: Nancy's Featherweight Book

Hi Feather,
I would like a copy of Nancy's book that I 
read about.  I tried ordering it from Keepsake
Quilting but they no longer offer it.
Could someone tell me where I  might get one.
I love this newsletter.  I read some o fhe archives every morning.  I am
having sew much
fun sewing on my new fw.  
My wish is that everyone looking for a fw will find one!
Linda 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 07:25:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Singer Cabinet #65

I came across another SM Fri. and I'll post that story later when I have more
time.  In the meantime, however, can someone tell me what kind of wood is in
the Singer Cabinet #65?  The one I just got has been antiqued, blue wash over
white (kinda looks like faded jeans) inside and out.  Even the cradle that
holds the machine has been painted.

TIA,
Karen
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:30:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Gathering at Krisi's

Hi All,

   I went to my first FW Gathering Sunday at Krisi and Bob's house in
Maryland.  I was amazed.  I saw the most awesome collection of FWs and all
kinds of toys, other old machines, and all kinds of Singer collectibles.  I
was in sewing machine heaven.  Especially after I bought Krisi's 222K!  I
rode up with 2 feathers I had not met before, Stuart Inge and her friend
Chris Wilson, and we had a wonderful time.  The hospitality was great, and I
enjoyed meeting people I had only heard about in the digest.  What a great
day!  Thanks Krisi and Stuart!

 Linda
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Singer 66 
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:33:40 -0400

Over the weekend I picked up a Singer 66.  No cabinet, case,
attachments, NO NOTHING.  In fact this head (once a tredle) was rusted,
frozen and not in the best of shape.  But....the decals are great.  I
only paid a couple of dollars for it, so not all is lost if I can't find
someone with this part.  I oiled, WD-40'd and waited,  waited and
waited.  Everything lossened up and when it did a part from inside fell
out.  What I'm looking for is the fork that runs vertically inside the
head and connects to the bobbin shuttle arm on the underside of the
machine.  It looks like a large two prong fork.  Yes, I have taken this
machine down to this point and would love to find this piece and put it
back together.  So.......if anyone has an old worn out Singer 66 head
out there and you want to part out "This forked part" please let me
know.  Please E-mail me at saiwhat@aol.com and I'd be very happy.  I'm
not interested in any of the attachments or manual, as that will be
another search.

On a lighter side.  I took at Watercolor quilt class at the Viking
Sewing Center in Ann Arbor on Saturday....I think I'm hooked on yet
another quilting project.  Oh...and I bought an old trunk and started
stripping the paint off that.  Boy,,,work is interfering with my
fun......
debi
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 08:54:58 -0500
Subject: Elias Howe JR.

HI, It has been a while since I have posted. I have 3 Elias Howe Jr.
machines, 2 are in different style treadle cabinets. Does anytone know
anything about them or perhaps where I can obtain manuals or other
literature on them. I also have a "Union Special" and a "Unique" I'd
like more info on. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thank you so
much, "Treadlin' Doreen"
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/22/97
Date:	Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:47:09 +0100

To Karen

Repainting any machine will reduce its value. But if it is a real dog and
not a really early model and one you wish to keep, then the decision must
be yours. I do not believe that there is any company  producing decals for
machines.


To Terri et al re "superior male" dealers.

Yes I'm sure some men get patronising when dealing with "the little woman"
in an antique store.

But it works the, other way as well. A man at a quilt show attempting to
buy from the traders will suffer just the same.

To all re dickering

There's another side to this business.

A short time ago Maggie and I visited a lady who wished to sell an early
Thomas machine. It was in fine order and I mentally decided I'd be happy to
pay $1500.
I had previously warned her that I would expect her to have a price fixed
and when I asked her she came in with exactly $1500
She knew nothing about machines but has guessed on the nail.
I dickered her down to $1400.
On the way home M asked me why I had robbed the woman of $100.
The answer was simple. Had I just jumped in and paid over the full amount,
the lady would never have known if she had vastly underpriced the model and
there would have been sleepless nights.By my dickering around for just $100
she had peace of mind and the knowledge that she had not cheated herself.
The $100 went to a good cause.

 I'm standing by for the flames......


Graham F
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: 28 Jul 1997 08:53:02 PST
Subject: zigzag foot for 500

to Terri  with the 500A

The Singer 500 is a slant needle machine and takes a slant shank foot.
These are available at most fabric stores and sewing machine dealers
that stock Singer parts.  The clones should cost around $5.00, a genuine
Singer might be more.

            Rose 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Knee pedal foe singer model 1926 99
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 09:17:40 -0700

Does anyone know of a source to locate at knee pedal for a 1926 model 99? 
My sil bought one for a very good price but needs to see if she can locate
the knee pedal before she converts to a reg. foot pedal.

Thank you for any help you can give.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 11:38:47 -0500
Subject: Singer Edison

Please be advised that 1-800-7762 is no longer in use, please dial 1-800
4 SINGER,  this applies to Consumer Affairs...Corp.  Edison is closing
its doors, they are now in Murfreesboro TN...
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 11:52:44 -0500
Subject: Singer Edison, Re-location

The Ph. number to call for Singer Consumer Affairs is 1-800-4
SINGER...They are soon to close the doors of its Edison location.  This
includes historical information on antiques, older machines and
featherweights..  I know this information firsthand because I used to
work for Singer.....
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:12:53 +0100
Subject: Re: Singer96K Help!


Dear Sirs,
I was given your name following a posting to a newsgroup about our 
heavyweight machine, a Singer 96K. It started smashing needles and I 
assume that the bobbin carrier has moved on its shaft. Do you know if 
there are any lining up marks to align it properly or is it possible 
to get hold of any documentation still? The problem started after 
winding a bobbin and I presume that doing this at full speed has 
thrown something out of alignment.

Any help gratefully received as we live in the middle of nowhere as 
far as servicing and the work is piling up!

Many thanks, 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 12:32:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: white vs. black FW value

Hi all, Harmony here.
This subject has come up before but I would appreciate any
e-mail of opinions. I have both black and white FWs and I
have a sewing preference.  The black "feels" better to me
to use. Are the white ones more or less valued than the
black? Because white ones are newer are they viewed as not
so collectable or because fewer were manufactured are they
more sought after?  
I like the black also for the decals. They seem more inviting.
The white look so plain after being used to black. I was shocked
the first time I saw a white one. Like many other sm they quickly
grew on me.  
The same number of white ones have found me as black. I try not
to look for them now that I have 4. Seems once you aquire one,
they call their friends to come visit or live with them :-).

Drop a line,
Harmony
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:38:51 +0200
Subject: Birth date.

Norway mailing once more !!!!!

This weekend i bought one great singer....
The baby stands on a cast iron table, and is in a good condition.
I have 2 things i would like to now about the machine.
 1: The birth date. It is 2 number combination  :  3     012696.
    					   and  :        321696.
 2: On the firm loggo it stands  " THE SINGER MFG.CO  N.Y. "
    Means the letters N.Y. that the machine is produced in New York.
 
This is the first time that i have seen the letter N.Y. on a 
sewingmachine over here.

Thanks for anny help  
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 05:42:12
Subject: dear fws new web site up and running

Dear fws; my new web site is finally up and running , linked up to captain
Dicks, and have some photos, of some of the treadles we have, we need to
add a lot of photos, and will in the proceding months. We have given our
spotters instructions to start hunting, and see far in the last weeks, he
has brought home 3 fws, and 3 treadles, 99k in a cabinet, and  a 418
stylist. Without having a full time practicually retired fella out there
hunting, I dont think we could keep the selection coming in, and it takes
time to train people what to buy, and what to pay, and even then you still
can be bitten,  well couple of answers first someone asked a while ago for
the body of a 403a slant amatic. yes we have a good base and casting for a
403 in the basement, was this chris V , I think cant remember, the fw that
the light goes out when you step on the pedal, not wired properly, common
problem, needs rewiring properly..person wants to know how to properly lay
out puzzle box, can photo copy old instruction contact me directly.  well
thats it, nice landy fw from London ont. came by for a visit on sat, showed
her my mess, and she said my wife and I would millionaires with all the old
stuff, we have well, ones person junk is another treasure , but I wouldnt
count on being a millionare unless the value of cast iron goes way up.


better back to work your mike 
************************************
*    Woodstock Sewing Centre       *
*                                  *
*  http://www.oxford.net/~mikeh    *
*                                  *
************************************
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 97 23:54:21 UT
Subject: FW and Table

Yippee!  I finally found one.  Today I was on my way to my usual flea market, 
when something told me I should stop in at another one that I'd never been to 
before.  I walked in the door and there it was - a FW, sitting in its table.  
And the price of the whole set up was less than what I paid for my other FW 
alone! Its the first time I've ever even found a FW at a flea market!  The 
table is in great shape except, it does not have an insert to fit into the 
table when it is not being used for sewing.  The guy who sold it, said he 
thought they always just always used the machine in the table, so there was no 
insert, and no case for the machine.  Did these tables come with inserts, and 
are they less valuable if it doesn't have one?  The machine runs well, 
although there is a problem with the finish.  On the black there seems to be 
like a gold flake, and tiny gold veined lines,  that you can remove with your 
fingernail, yet all the decals are intact.  Would this be some kind of lacquer 
coming off, and does anyone have any suggestions as to what to do with it?
I also managed to find a Singer yard stick, some wooden National Thread spools 
to start filling my National Thread cabinet, and a little oldfashioned travel 
iron which I have wanted for making mini-quilts.   Don't you just love these 
kind of days?
Jeannie
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:26:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: A 15-90 found me and followed me home!

Friday I left for work early to swing by a garage sale that listed "Singer
sewing machine w/table."  (Ok, so it wasn't on the way to work but you all
would do the same thing!)  It was a
Singer 833 (Futura?) in an ugly-to-me Mediterrean veneer Fruitwood kinda
cabinet.  Marked $175.  I mention that I was looking for something older and
the lady having the sale looks at me like I'm from another planet.    

So, at lunch time a co-worker and I go to two estate sales.  At the second
house, there's a Singer sewing machine in a cabinet with bench.  It's a
Singer 15-90 and it's marked $50.  It isn't on my list of wants, yet I start
poking through the drawers.  There's a buttonholer in the green Godzilla box,
the original parts box with feet, and a tube of lubricant in a box.  

Also in the drawer is something else I've never seen before.  It's called the
Blind Stitch Attachment,  part no. 160616.  It looks like a cross between a
tiny zigzag attachment and the modern day walking feet.  

I head back downstairs to see if the people running the estate sale would
sell the attachment separately.  No, but I can have the whole thing for $25.
 I stand there wondering how I'm going to get it in the car and what my DH
will say and the man says "Ok, $20."  (It was the last day of the sale.)  My
friend and I head back upstairs and we can't even lift it.  I try to take the
head out of the cabinet with the handy dandy Singer loopy screwdriver but it
doesn't budge.  Oh, yeah, I forgot to mention the cabinet has been antiqued,
white with a blue wash, inside and outside.  Even the cradle that holds the
machine.  

Anyway, they find someone to carry it downstairs, I run to get my car and we
head back to work, late I might add!  When I got home, my DH rolled his eyes
and put the SM in the back of the garage.  

Sun., one of my friends comes over and I'm showing her the machine and I
notice the seal on the front.  IT'S A CENTENNIAL MODEL!  I'm such an airhead,
I never really looked at the machine.  Later in the day, I check out the
ISMACS web page (Wonderful info there BTW) and there's my cabinet, Singer
Cabinet #65.  

So, my attachment cost me $20, but included a 15-90, cabinet, bench, and lots
of goodies.  Now if only I can find a 301 and FW the same way!

Happy hunting!
Karen
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 18:31:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: 28K machine

Hello,

  Over the weekend I picked up a 28K hand crank machine.  I called Singer
about a manual and they said to check with a dealer.  The dealer said they
couldn't get any and the 127 manual was supposed to be substituted for it.
 Before I went in to have them order it, I thought I'd ask if anyone has a
28K manual (either spare or photocopy) that I can buy.  I thought the machine
was pretty and unique, and when I went to Krisi Santilla's, she had one just
like it!  Hers had more of the gold design on it - all of her machines were
beautiful.  Mine has what I guess is the "coffin box" top - square, with
designs on it, and a handle on each side.  I just want to figure out how to
use it - I can't imagine sewing and turning a crank at the same time!  It's
birthday is June 1908.  

  Well, if anyone can help me out with a manual, I'd appreciate it.

  Thanks,

   Linda
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 20:30:34 -0300
Subject: YAHOO!! I Finally Got One

I can hardly believe it - I finally have my Featherweight.  It's a 222K
(made in Scotland I think) and is in mint condition, complete with
original attachments, needles, bobbins, tube of lubricant (tube is
green) AND, original instruction booklets - one specifically talking
about the 222K because it converts into a free arm.  I got it for a very
good price here in Canada.  I threaded it and voila - what a beautiful
stitch.  Now that I've been bitten by the FW bug, I think I'll start
looking around for others and start a collection.  This one however, I'm
going to use and use alot.  Cheers all.
Marilyn
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 22:38:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Request for Assistance

Hi All
Have been lurking for several months.  Learning to sew,doing a quilt or two,
and buying some really neat old machines (no FW yet).

However, I recently purchased a 201 and the motor needs to be replaced.  I
took the 201 to local Singer repairman, but he doesn't have one and he is
looking for an INEXPENSIVE used but good motor through his network.  Does
anyone out there have or know of a source for at least one 201 motor and
possibly a 401 motor?

Thanks.

Rod
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:37:18 -0700
Subject: Soft Side FW case

There was someone asking about the soft FW bag.  There
is one at this URL:

http://isis.infinet.com/itb/special.htm

""Replacement/Travel Case for Featherweight  Machines

Unique case, designed specifically for your Featherweight  machine.
Lightweight, padded travel case with double zipper for easy access.
Tough nylon fabric, available in two colors: red or black. Zippered front
pocket for controls, etc. Back slip pocket for patterns, fabrics, etc. 
Heavy duty handles plus detachable, padded shoulder strap. Tough, extra
padded bottom
panel for durability. 

Maybe this is the bag you were looking for.
Char
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:44:39 -0700
Subject: New to list=

Hi, I am recently new to the FW Fanatics pages, and just now getting
around to saying hi!    I met fellow FW fanatic  Sharon Reese at the
Sisters Show, and promised to post something.
I have a FW I believe was born in 1955. Named her Faye after my sewing
teacher in Jr High. She  is in almost perfect condition except for the
lingering musty smell. She has been airing out in the sun for the last
week with little success. ( tried the Safeguard bar, baking soda, coffee,
and not much luck) Any suggestions?? 
Also have two model 66 Singers, one came with the treadle cabinet, and
the other one came in a newer maple type cabinet. I believe both are the
same year, and believe it or not, the one in the newer cabinet has the
motor attachment that Singer sold to the treadle owners. They both have
the beautiful scroll work, gold red and green.
I am curious to know more about these machines!! 

Kathy 

"Sisters Oregon quilt show...been there, saw the quilts, got the
T-shirt!"
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 00:50:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/25/97

Hey Everybody I found ONe, I found One.  A white featherweight.  I am going
to visit her Wednesday.  She will be at an aution on Labor Day and she will
be mine, at last.    Susie 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 97 06:52:09 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/23/97

I have an old Singer tredal machine (1916).  I have restored it and it is in
beautiful condition except it is missing one part.  There is a hinged iron
piece on the right side of the machine that has holes for the belt to go
through.  This piece goes up and down with the machine when the machine is
put down into the cabinet or raised out of it for sewing.  There is a spring
that pushes this hinged piece up.  I need the spring.  Can anyone help me?
Thanks,
Eileen 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:04:53 EDT
Subject: International Quilt Show


I would also like to know the source that sells the FW carrying bag.  Plan on
taking one of my FWs to the Houston Quilt Festival in October.  Has any of the
feathers attended this show, and would they give me some pointers and info on
it?  Also, would anyone have a knee control for a 128, manufactured in 1951,
motor controller #195166, for sale???
Connie
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 02:06:11 -0700
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/20/97

This message is for Captain Dick and other fanatics in Washington State. 
Evelyn's Antiques just a little north of Marysville (take the 202 exit) 
has sewing machines. I looked at a Singer, but I didn't know the exact 
model.  However, I did copy down the serial number. AL266875  Evelyn said 
she has other sewing machines "around the shop" for interested parties.  
She also specializes in antiques glass. There is "stuff" everywhere!  Let 
me know if you want more precise directions or telephone #.  -Danna
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 16:16:22 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FW Sewing Machines

Hello Fellow FW fanatics: (try saying that fast 3 times)

My local friend Judy Carrozzino introduced us to FWF on the net. My wife and
I are very happy to have the chance to use the net and talk to people like
FWF and the many other great people surfing the lines. 

We own a 29 year old sewing machine service company here in Oberlin, Ohio and
probably serviced over 1000 FWs during that time. 

Please let us know of your experiences with sewing and any FW news  you have
to share. 

Keep On Sewing!


Linda & Ray
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 19:34:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: New Home

Hi.  

I did'nt see the previous post in the digest about this machine.  So here it
goes again.  I have a New Home treadle.  Last patent date is 1879.  It is in
a small walnut cabinet w/2 drawers on the right side.  The shiny round disk
and all that is attached to it for winding the bobbin is missing.  Are any
available?  Also the head has been repainted.  The decals were removed as I
can not see them.  Only shadows of where they were.  Are any reproduction
decals available?  Does anyone know the date of manufacture for this
machine...or do I go by the last patent date?

Thanks..
Terri
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:01:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Slant shank tucker

Is there such an animal as a slant shank tucker?  I have a friend who is
looking for one, and I was surprised that in my mountain of parts there
wasn't one in there!  Please email me privately if you have one.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Subject: identification question
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:33:06 -0500

Hi, everyone!  I've been lurking and enjoying this list for quite a while,
and now I have a question that prompts me to come out of "lurkdom."  On my
lunch break today I visited the local Salvation Army, and tucked away in the
back of the back room was an old Singer, the likes of which I've never seen.
It is very small, but not a toy.  the entire machine is light green (even
the cord is green) and is situated in a cabinet that I believe is not the
original cabinet.  On the stitch length lever is a small plaque that says
"185K," and stamped on the lower inside part of the head is, "Made in Great
Britain."  When I looked under the machine, I found the serial number
EN883451 and Simanco 33681.  If anyone knows anything about this machine, I
would very much appreciate any information you may have.  TIA! 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date:	Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:37:36 -1000
Subject: 9W7

I think this was the W & W No.9 sewing machine that Singer sold after they
took over the Wheeler & Wilson company.  Your machine was most likely made
after 1910 or so.  It's a rotary machine and the balance wheel turns away
from you.  They seem to use featherweight type bobbins.  I have a few
pictures of the W&W No. 9 on my web page.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:35:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: 301 manual

Is there anyone out there that would be willing to part with an original
manual for a 301?  I inherited my grandmother's beautiful 301A (now my
favorite machine) when she passed away last November, and it had nothing
but the case and the machine.  For sentimental reasons I would really like
to have an original manual to go with it (I have a copy already).  If
anyone has one to sell, please email me!  Thanks,  Ann
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 14:25:16 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: White Rotary

Hi I went to the flea market sunday and for $15.00 I bought a White Rotary
sewing machine in a cabinet.  The receipt in the drawer was, date of purchase
9-1-37.
The base of the machine has beveled markings in the steel, It almost looks
like cast iron.   Does anyone have any information or a manual on this
machine.  The number of the machine is 41241.  79 White

Thank you Lores
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: RE: sore quilting fingers
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 21:46:58 -0800

To Teri with the sore quilting fingers.  I have used bag balm for years for 
sore fingers-you might find it in a farm supply store or now most quilt 
stores carry it.  I am the daughter of a farmer and when I had my first 
child 31 years ago, my father gave me a container of bag balm as I was 
breast feeding my daughter--it worked wonders!  Now I use it for any sore 
area that needs tending.
				Mary Ann
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 23:08:03 -0700
Subject: My First FW -- help!

I just bought a Featherweight (my first) at a yardsale. I paid $25.00 
for it, but it may not have been a bargain because the bobbin case is 
missing. I'm pretty sure it will also need a new belt. Otherwise, it 
looks okay and has its original case which is in good shape though a bit 
dirty. I have been calling around to various sewing machine repair 
places to see what it might cost to get this FW fixed.

What should I expect to pay for a bobbin case? A tune up? Where would be 
a good place to look for one? Does it make any difference whether it's a 
Singer part or a a generic one? How can I tell whether a particular 
repairman would be a good choice for fixing a FW?

I've been quoted prices between $48.00 and $78.00 locally to replace the 
bobbin case. (I didn't think to ask if they were talking about a Singer 
part or a generic part.) The price of a cleaning and a tuneup ranges 
from $45.00 to $85.00. 

Stumbling around the Web I discovered an online place that said they had 
replacement bobbin cases: $99.00 for a Singer part, $69.00 for a 
generic. This place is called Sewing Machine Super Store 
(http://www.sewserg.com). Has anyone had any experience with them? Are 
their prices fair? Are there any other online places where I could get a 
replacement bobbin case that would be worth investigating?

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Mary H.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 08:25:26 +0100
Subject: adjusting foot pedal speed

To Mary:   to make a foot pedal "slower" for a young sewer, try getting
a foot control with the flap or "pedal" style control instead of the
button and take a sponge or similar material, and experiment with
thickness, and density, place it betwwen the base of controller and the
pedal to put more resistance in the pedal, so it has a "slower speed" ,
as if you place a coiled spring  there. I hope this makes some kind of
sense, saw this in one of the "I can sew " ?? books that I bought for my
daughter.  I have a "Sewing machine guy "that has a box and pegboard
full of foot controls for various machines, and I bought one for $10. 
Hope this helps, or maybe a repair person could adjust the control
itself?

Good luck,
Laura
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:46:04 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: New SM

Hello all,

I recently purchased an old sewing machine that I can't identify.  It 
is a chain stitch machine and it looks similar to a Wilcox and Gibbs 
but its a more basic design and not as pretty (in my opinion).  The 
elderly man that I bought it from said that he bought it in Haiti 
several years ago and that the women were using it to make dresses.  It 
has gears that meet the flywheel and it's turned by using a handcrank.  
It is very pitted with rust but the machine moves very freely when you 
turn the wheel. I haven't tried sewing with it yet...

If anyone has a thought on what this might be and an approximate age I 
would appreciate it.

A couple of days ago I saw one like it on the ebay auction and I think 
that they said it was a German machine...but the children were carrying 
on and I had to go...

Thanks for any info.

Sincerely,

Mary
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: 30 Jul 97 12:53:47 EDT
Subject: Alameda FW meeting

Final call for the Alameda meeting....

Update. There weren't enough signups for Jim Sorrell's class....
so we'll be meeting without his care class.

This means we'll meet a bit later....from 12 noon on.

We are lucky to have a pastry chef coming with munchies, and there will also
be homemade cookies.

If you have something you want to share...trade or sell bring it. I'll have
some vintage attachments I'll demo...blindhemmer....buttonholer....zigzagger..
and so forth. I'll also have my machines...FW...class 15 treadle...in a
unusual cabinet, Elna Grasshopper....Necchi Mirella...Necchi SuperNova BU
..Singer 128 handcrank....Singer 301...and some other odd things...like the
puzzel box...Mary Pickens book...

The event is the opening of my studio +Wildflower Sewing Studio+ in Alameda.
You can offer me advice as to just how to set it up. I'm not open for business
yet and am open to advice & ideas.

If you want to attend email me for directions. If you didn't get an email from
me recently with this info, please email me again your intentions to attend.
All this does get a bit complicated emailing everyone....so I may have not
replied to you.

TTYL...Carla
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/23/97
Date:	Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:15:21 +0100

To Marlene re contacting Singer

Many countries outside of the USA cannot contact 1-800 numbers. There are
various options you can pick fom when taking out a 1-800 contract from full
world coverage to  48-contig states only.
For those who cannot reach the number go to http://www.ismacs.net where
there is a special service for dating the machines for "foreigners" like
you and I.

From the number I'd guess 1938.


To Shelley re post 1961 FWs

Post 61 machines are made to the same standard and, of course, include the
superior free-arm convertable 222 model. The white/green models did have a
belt instead of gears and shaft between the two drive shafts but I've yet
to hear of one giving trouble and they run much quieter.

To Nadine re FWs in PA

I've seen $50 FWs in PA and many other states but most of those that
gravitate to the antique stores and shows are the usual  $300 to $500.


To debi re broken fork

Very unlikely that the Domestic part will fit the Singer.

Handbooks are very basic and it's unlikely that you would find the
information you are seeking outside of the service manual. If you can pin
down the part you need I can probably find it for you.

Graham 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/24/97
Date:	Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:15:29 +0100

To Ginger re Damascus

You will get a more detailed response from some members of this group if,
when you enquire about a machine's history,  you do not ask what the model
is worth.

To Eula re 3VS
I get a little confised over these numbers . I'm guess ing that what you
have is a Model 28. Please confirm that there is a bell-shaped inspection
cover at the head.



To Linda

who wrote
>
>Graham: I notice that your recent posts are short and succinct.  I hope
>you are recuperating from your medical problem.  I'd offer to make you a
>cup of tea to help you feel better, but we all know how you feel about
>American tea ;>).....(Let's NOT start that again, I'm just trying to cheer him
>up!)

Yes, I'm aware that my posts have been short and run much later than
previously. Will try to do better.

For all those dear friends who have enquired about my health, I got the
latest set of results today. These reveal a few minor problems which can be
dealt with, plus a diagnosis that the big problem was caused by a broken
blood vessel. Only difficulty is that the cameras revealed that as they are
so close to the surface, this could happen again at anytime and this could
be dangerous and travel is out at the moment. But I'm feeling great and the
obvious worry about the diagnosis was groundless.

Wasn't quite sure what to reach for first when I got out of hospital --
tough choice between the cigarettes and the tea pot.

Graham 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: 29 Jul 97 16:33:08 EDT
Subject: post

Hello Everyone...

Well,  I've  been  mulling over the Sincere Book Fiasco for some time now. I'm 
sure  that many of you have sent in $ for copies of the sewing machine manuals 
- and guess what? It's been a YEAR since I sent my bucks in...

Anyway,   I've  spent  the  last  few  months  providing  information  to  the 
Attorney's  General  for  the  states  of  Georgia  and Arizona, the Inspector 
General  of  the U.S. Post Office, the IRS, the FBI, and the County Prosecutor 
in Tucson...

Several  fellow  FW  Fanatics  are involved in helping resolve this situation. 
We've  got  a  FWF  in  the South West who's actually visited with Mr. William 
Ewers,  author  of  the  books. And we have a FWF Lawyer/Librarian type person 
investigating  copyright  infringement.  And  yet another FWF Lawyer acting as 
liaison  with  the above governmental agencies. However, the wheels of justice 
turn ever so ssssllloooowwwwllllyyyy...

One  point that I must make here is that Mr. Ewers is most concerned about the 
way  this has turned out and feels very badly about so many of us being burned 
over  the  re-printing  of  his  books.  He  wants  us  to know that HE IS NOT 
INVOLVED.   BK   contacted  him  last  year  about  the  books,  had  a  brief 
conversation  with  him,  he gave her permission to reprint (thinking that his 
copyrights  had  expired),  and that's it. He has no ivolvement with the sale, 
printing,  or  distribution  of  the  books.  He  will  get  no  royalties  or 
compensation. 

As  a  side  note, the copyrights have not yet expired on his books and BK may 
be  in  violation of the copyright law. And so would "the big printing company 
in New York" who allegedly has printed them...

This  whole  thing  is  just  one big ol' stinky mess... Once again, I implore 
those  of  you  who  have  been  "bitten" by this fiasco to write the Attorney 
General  in  Arizona  to  voice your frustration, register a formal complaint, 
and hopefully help us all get this thing resolved... 

Arizona Office of Consumer Affairs
Assistant Attorney General's Office
Consumer Protection Division
400 W. Congress, South Bldg. #315
Tucson, AZ 85701

Chris 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Treadle
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:06:40 -0500

Found a Franklin treadle in Oak cabinet-still has gold decalling on it. no
book, some feet. No idea of age. Anyone familiar with this machine please
email me 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date:        Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:32:51 CDT
Subject: my little grasshopper

Hi all.
Last Friday we went to a tractor/flywheel thing about 30 miles away. DH
and I enjoy looking at the machinery and there is a little flea market
there.  I spotted a table with two sewing machines sitting on it and
zoomed over for a look. hohum. a touch and jam and a kenmore.
Underneath the table was this green metal machine.  My heart beat faster
and I saw that it was an elna supramatic. wow!
I couldn't find a price so I asked how much they were asking, trying not
to look too interested.  They finally said $10.  We said "sold" and we
carried it (it is one heavy machine) to the car when dh spotted a $5
sticker on the back of the case.
He laughed and laughed when he saw my face as I realized I'd paid twice
as much as i had to.  I kept telling myself "you got a good deal; you
got a good deal" and to be honest, he got more than $5 worth of mirth.

 The machine is fast and quiet; haven't had much time to play with it
yet.  Does anyone know where I can get feet and accessories for it?  Is
the supramatic "the" grasshopper or just another green elna?

   I've had quite a week last week.  My 222K twins (both in mint
condition, with original manuals, attachments, zigzaggers with extra
templates, and one came with the oil can in its case) arrived earlier in
the week and I'd been telling myself "no more machines".  I guess a $5
elna I paid $10 for doesn't count, does it?  Michele
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:30:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Split Fingers

Dear Terri,

The best thing to use for split fingers is some super glue.  Get one of the
little bottles that has the liquid in it, that can be recapped.  I am a nurse
as well as a quilter and in the winter, with cold weather and all the hand
washing, my fingers split on the corners.  As you know, this can be very
painful.  

My doctor said to use the super glue.  As a matter of fact, some surgeons are
using super glue instead of sutures, as after about two weeks, the glue just
sloughs off and the wounds are healed.  No having to come back to the
doctor's office for suture removal.

When you apply the glue, just use a drop right on top of the open area and be
sure not to touch anything until it's dry.  I'll swear by it.

Oh and am I excited.  Found my first Featherweight two weeks ago and it is in
excellent condition.  I would say it's an 8 to 9.  1947 and has all
attatchments, book and all bobbins.  The case is not as good and the box has
that musty smell to it.  Haven't had a chance to sew with it yet, but will
this weekend.  

Really enjoy this list.

Helen 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 22:33:26 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: flickering FW light--finale

Hi again-- Just wanted to report on a friend's FW problem I'd asked about.
We tried all the hints so kindly sent by FWF's, but nothing worked on her
machine.  We were unable to fiddle inside with the wiring much, probably
just as well!  Another friend took it to our SM guy in Lincoln (the only
guy I trust with machines around here, even tho it's 100+ miles!) who said
it needed to be rewired.  duh.  ;)  Anyway, he was able to fix it in just
a couple of days, my DH picked it up when he had errands to run in
Lincoln, and the rewired FW ($35 charged for that, not bad?) got to go to
QuiltNebraska in Chadron; performed admirably in her Frank Lloyd Wright
window-quilt class!

There are now at least 6 of us FW owners in Hastings--maybe some other
area FWF's could come for a get-together somewhere around here?!  

Hope you're doing well, Graham, and everyone else also of course.  And, as
always, t-h-a-n-k---y-o-u---S-u-e!!!

Rita
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:15:35 -0400
Subject: Singer Magazine Ads

Hi,
I found a wonderful Singer Ad in the Dec 1957
Good Housekeeping Magazine P169.
It shows 5 sm including fw.  Also beige Sewhandy, 3 sewing boxes and 5
cabinets.
I just purchased a Singer Sewing Basket thru an on line auction to go
with my 1951 fw.
I am going to call to get my fw birthday today!
Linda
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:17:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FWF 5/5/97

Hi all:  Well, I managed to hold out almost 3 months, but I went back to look
today and the Singer 24 treadle was still there. So now it's home in my (very
crowded) sewing room. It seems to be in really nice condition. Singer dates
it at 1-1-08 which is just a few months before my Dad. He's been bugging me
to get it so he can play with it! Is that a second childhood, or what? DH and
I installed the belt but I'm not sure of the threading. Would someone have an
instruction manual they would copy for me? Gladly pay charges, etc. Thanks,
Kennalee 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 18:06:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Correction to my latest find!

Ok, I goofed!  My latest find is the Centennial 15-91, not 15-90 as I "said"
earlier.  My brain must've been elsewhere while my fingers were flying over
the keyboard!

Karen
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 01:58:41 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Mike H.  

I recently visted Mike and his wife at his shop in Woodstock, Ontario.  If
you are ever in the area you have to see them and the "treasures" in his
basement.  They spent 1 1/2 hours with me and all I bought was 4 bobbins!
Mike is a fountain of SM knowledge - it was amazing.  He had 2 nice FWs for
sale.  Dropping hints to my husband for a nice Singer treadle.

Drop by, you will be glad you did.

Sandy
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: New FW Purchase
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 23:06:43 -0400

I went to an antique store I don't usually get to, but it was closed.  I
peeped in the window and saw the notorious "black case."  Since it was
Monday, I assumed the shop was closed on Mondays.  Went back Tuesday, shop
still closed. Called the emergency number  and the owner answered and
explained that she had been too ill to come in and yes, it was a FW in good
condition.  She said she believed she had $250 on it.  She had a friend who
would meet me at the shop if I were truly interested.  I assured her I was,
and today I met her friend at the shop.

Well, the machine runs beautifully, but the box was in rough shape, and
there were no accessories.  The machine itself is probably a 6 or 7-- very
dirty and difficult to tell how it will look when cleaned up.  Not many
scratches, but decals are wearing and someone had done a bad touchup job on
several areas on the edges of the bed.  But to my surprise, it was a
centennial, and the price was $200, not $250.  I wanted to offer less, but
kept thinking about Nancy's comments and thought that it was probably worth
the $200, so didn't try to bargain but bought the machine.  

It turns out the friend was a SM man and he had a number of collectible
SMs.  Very interesting fellow to talk with.  He said that when he was in
the navy, he sewed parachutes, and that even though the navy provided
machines, many of the guys with that job had their own FWs because they
liked them so much better and liked to take them with them from base to
base whenever they were transferred.

He said that when he and the owner of the shop first started selling FWs,
they were much cheaper, of course, and they more often got ones in that
were in mint condition. He told of a woman who looked at a like-new FW and
decided against purchasing it. But then she told her friend about it, and
the friend came and looked and bought it.  Then the woman who turned it
down got mad at her friend and wished she had bought it herself, and the
two were still not speaking over that FW!

I have another FW which is nearly perfect--I think it's a 9,and I'm one of
those who likes to keep it in the pristine shape.  So I will probably keep
this second one for my use in case I ever retire and get to take up
quilting!  But haven't decided for sure what I will do with it.  By the
way, the SM man had replaced belt with an ugly brown, lugged belt.  He said
that some people didn't like it because of the looks, but that it is
actually a better belt.  What do you think?  Should I replace with black
belt like original?  Any opinions on this?

He also brought out a black 301, which he said was the "best kept secret,"
because he believes the 301 to be Singer's best SM.  He explained about the
gears, and no belt, but I didn't fully understand what he was saying. I'm
still fairly new at this.

Have read several posts and gotten some messages about my not following
through on the $40 301 I saw, and am I kicking myself--just couldn't
remember at the time whether that was a good price.

Betty
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 08:39:35 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: split fingers, SF medallion

Hi all!

Someone asked about a "home remedy" for split quilting fingers.  Well, I
don't actually make this at home, but "Bag Balm" works wonders.  The kind
in the green square tin can, intended for dairy farmers (well, it's
really intended for *cattle* but they don't shop much)...the 10-oz size
is ~$5 at Wal-Mart and such if there's no farm/ranch store nearby; the
cute little 1-oz size costs about the same at quilt shops.

I had a FW with the 1939 San Francisco Golden Gate Exposition medallion.
I'd bought it in Lincoln NE 3 yrs ago or so, swapped it to Krisi early
this year.  Haven't heard of many others, that's for sure!

Add another FW convert to our masses...a quilt-buddy finally gave in and
bought one!  We've had great fun playing with the AH she bought from Glenn
Williams--what a nice way to spend the first day back from QuiltNebraska!
Now, if I just didn't have to go back to work...  Have a good day.

Rita 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Musty odor
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 10:11:36 -0400

People have been asking about how to get rid of the musty odor in the FW case again.
I have an unusual solution that has worked well for me.  I bought a pair of Odor Eaters
and put one in the bottom of the case. For those of you who may not know what 
Odor Eaters are, they're foam inserts that you put inside of smelly shoes.  The
heavy-duty Odor Eaters formulated for extra-smelly shoes seem to work especially well.

Betsy
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 97 12:43:55 UT
Subject: News of a different sort - not SM related

Hi, Fellow Feathers-

	I wanted to share with y'all how our summer has been going.  We moved  on June 26th, because DH is in 
the Navy and he transferred.  We were told by the Navy Family Housing office 
that it would be a "4-6 months" wait for Housing, meaning it could be 
Christmas by the time we were able to move into it.  We accepted that, and 
found a nice landlord who rented her place to us on a month-to-month basis, 
just in case Housing became available early.  Friday, July 25th, we were told 
by the Housing office that we could "view" a property in Housing with the 
intention of moving in before the end of August.  That's wonderful, but that's 
not the end of the story.  As of yesterday, it looks like we'll be moving into 
the property as soon as next week - August 5th!!  We have been mightily 
blessed, because #1, DH is now on a submarine, and he will be going out to 
sea.  However, he'll be here for the move itself.  #2, my next-door neighbor 
will be one of my best friends.  I told her Friday what the address was, and 
she said it sounded familiar.  It turns out she's on one side of a corner and 
I'm on the other side! (different streets, same intersection - our yards join) 
 #3, We will be moved in before school starts, and both kids will be in the 
right schools.  Our DS is highly intelligent, and we were very concerned about 
which school he'd be in.  DD is starting Kindergarten, and we didn't want her 
to have to switch schools after the school-year had started.  Moving twice in 
6 weeks is enough to try anyone's patience, but we'll be better off after this 
one - the waiting will be over!  

	Just wanted to share a snippet of my life with you.  Thanks for listening!

				Happy Quilting!
				Terry
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject:  crash
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:42:32 -0500

 Hi everyone--we had a Windows crash and I lost my files.  I was to send
copies of manuals etc. to a couple people and I have lost the info.  If it
was you please e-mail me and let me know which manual and your
address--thanks

Eula 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Singer toy
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:45:13 -0500

 I got my first toy sm!  It's a Singer handcrank and is a cutie.  It is
missing the needle--anyone know what kind of needle it takes?

Eula 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/27/97
Date:	Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:17:31 +0100

To Rachel re 9W&

It's industrial and not a New Family which is a 12. Singer's dating and
identification service seems to be getting wilder and wilder.


To Laura

The old aunt's machine was made by the Davis Co. Quite interesting as the
feed was above the stitch plate unlike most other machines, but not rare.


To Rhonda

Davis went out of business in 1924 and no records exist as to dating. It
will probably take a Singer 1 X 2 needle. Happy to help but not to talk
values.


To Brenda re Simplex

Davis, Free and White all made machines under the Simplex banner. Your
sister's machine could be any one of the three. These were standard
machines with a name change so look for a manual by the manufacturer.

To JP re Wheeler and Wilson

The machine would have had gold decoration. Base black coat on these was
good quality but the adornment was not and it's not unusual to find all
black models.

To Kay re Willcox and Gibbs

These were made from the  1860s to the 1950s in the same basic design and
are not too difficult to find in treadle form. Avoid buying a head only.
Also came as electric and hand crank. You can find them at yard sales but
antique shows are more likely as the machiones can look a lot older than
they actually are.

Most desirable is the hand crank produced for the European market.

$250 was not out of order for the hand crank you saw if it was complete and
with its box.
Expect to pay more for a good treadle and eveen more for a European hand crank.

You mention a "celebrity machine". What's this?

Graham
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:57:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: The one that got away, the one that didn't, wanted

Hello Feathers
The one that got away.
Tuesday I was at a local Flea Market when a man I know said " You should have
been here yesterday.  Someone had a white FW for sale for $8.00.  The guy who
bought it just walked down the line and sold it to another dealer for
$150.00."  Just never can tell.
The one that didn't.
Friday while garage shopping I found a 404 in the cabnet with attachments,
book and buttonholer.  The machine was locked up solid but the paint was
excellent and no rust.  I paid $25.00 for it.  When I got home I found so
much lint in the bobin carrier it had locked it up.  The machine runs perfect
now.  Anyone passing up on a 404 has lost out on a great straight stitch
machine.  Monday night at a local auction I was high bidder on a 201K  1951
Centennial editon in a treadle base.  The head is in 9+ condition and had the
box of attachments but no book.  Does anyone have a book they are willing to
sell or trade?
Wanted:
Some time back I bought a GE Sewhandy to add to my collection.  When I got
home I found it did not have the bobin carrier.  Does anyone have one willing
to sell?  If not would someone like to buy this machine to go with the
carrier they have?

Thanks and good FW hunting
Roy 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/25/97
Date:	Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:16:08 +0100

To Elain re wiring

Don't like the light going out when you press the pedal. Very clear wiring
fault. Please get it checked out.

Thanks for the kind words about the ISMACS site -- credit goes to Jim
Wilson, the webmaster.

Can provide a 221 copy manual if you don't get a more local offer.

 Graham 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:53:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Recent Finds and New resolution

Don't know whether my posts have been getting through AOL (it was much easier
to post from work) but thought I would let everyone know that it is still
possible to find elusive "bargain" FW -- I didn't think I ever would.  A few
weeks ago I turned down a $250 FW (had original oil can and 2 manuals).  I
had set my personal limit at $200 and naturally I find nothing at that price.
 But I was rewarded last week by a local small dealer who I talk to all the
time.  She is not into sewing machines but I do my best to educate!  She
called me with a FW last week - said she paid $25 and said I could have it.
 She just wanted a small profit.  So $50 later it was mine!!  She asked me
how much it was worth and I told her and told her what to look for etc.  She
nicely didn't charge me that price.  She said a guy had been begging her
earlier in the day to sell to him but she had promised to me.  I made sure I
got over really soon for fear someone would get it!  So I have my "new" FW
with little oil can and best of all the funny looking feed dog cover which I
had never seen before.  In the case were directions for Buttonholer and a set
of extra disks for zigzagger -- too bad they got away!  It is an AE with
numbered tension and actually sounds better than my newer AL.  It was a good
week.

Also Sue M came my way last weekend and we went to Clarence (Graham if
you are reading, it is a cool place and  you missed it) NY outside of Buffalo
and barely touched the surfaces of the flea markets there.  I came back with
mucho cigarette silks, trade cards, Singer oil bottle (Sue got a Wheeler and
Wilson one), and a couple of toys (one for Sue and one for me).  It was great
fun -- I just need a full weekend to see all the shops that are there in
addition to the flea market!  I am so glad to have met Sue through FWF.  I
sent her home with my big pile of old Home Art and Needlecraft magazines to
peruse and she lent me her Women's Institute booklets.  It is so much fun to
share this stuff.

Also found a 201 on Monday for $29 at local thrift.  I just couldn't go for
another cabinet machine so called my local sewingmachineguy (I am his best
customer) and told  him where it was and what it was. He was going over to
get it.  Coincidentally he had called me the same morning and left a message
that he had a 201 for sale and there was another woman interested but he
would call me first!  He had told me a few months ago that he rarely sees
these anymore so I think he was a happy camper.  I am happy to retrieve the
machine for a nice guy. 

Thanks also to Mary Ann (who I met at Frish's) for sending me the
buttonholer.  It arrived unscathed and I love it!!

Enough of a long post.  Happy hunting!  

Beth
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: August Web Site Changes
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 12:35:27 -0700

Hi, all, and what a divese group you are!

Anyway, August Web Site changes have been posted.  No change in
Special Postings at this time... the latest quilt is still there as
are some last minute additions to the Dummy Depot stock.  New story
has been posted on the Story/Routine page AND... the new Featured
Ventriloquist of the Month page is up, with Gary Keopke as my first
victi... I mean subject.  So for all you vents who have been talking
with Gary but have never met him or seen a picture, check it out.

Captain Dick
Home Page at:  http://www.acmenet.com/captaindick
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: RE: sewing machine purchase
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 17:29:59 -0800

I have just received two sewing machines I purchased from Jane and Ed 
 and wanted to let everyone know what great service was 
provided and the packing was wonderful.  I see why they can ship porcelin 
dolls all over the world and not have breakage.   There was a problem with 
shipping and Jane tracked the packages, all the while communicating with me 
via email so that I was aware of what was going on.
 Thanks, Jane and Ed.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 09:11:36 -0700
Subject: Hoosier Cabinets

Since we know that sewing machines were not designed by women  consider the
Hoosier Cabinets for ktchens.  My sister is still using the cabinet that
our Dad bought for mom about 70 or more years ago.  This cabinet was indeed
designed by a woman.  It is one of the most efficient pieces of furniture I
have ever seen.  The woman had to have a man get the manufacturer to build
it and market it.

Joyce
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 14:01:32 +0000
Subject: It Arrived!

Just got my first Featherweight today....I was waiting with the door
opened as the UPS woman turned the corner.  My mom in New Orleans found
the machine for me--it is in beautiful condition (I think, an 8) and
came with the case, feet, manual, and original tag.  My mom has the
table as well, but it will have to wait until our next New Orleans visit
for me to pick it up.  

From the list, I believe that it was manufactured in 1956.  The writing
on the back of the tag says that it cost $149.50 plus $4.49 tax and that
the original owner (one of my mom's friends) apparently got a $12
discount or trade-in and then put $41.94 down and paid off the rest in
April, May, and June.

My question to the group is about buttonholes.  I've read that people
use the featherweight for buttonholes.  Which attachment is needed?

Also, I can easily get a copy of the first edition of Nancy
Johnson-Srebro's book....what additions does the new edition have and do
I want to mail order it instead?

Glad to be a part of this terrific group!

Jane 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 19:43:30 -0700
Subject: knee lever

To Betsey looking for a knee lever, check to see if you need a flat end
or a round end lever.  The good news is that my cousin was able to make
a round-end knee lever once I had one to give him for a sample. He
expects to make up more of them within the next few months. So, anyone
needing either a flat or round end lever, emai me and when he starts
production I will be in touch!  (And if you don't NEED one but want a
complete kit for hunting down sewing machines, consider adding a knee
lever to your kit!!)

I had the chance to purchase a sewing machine table today but I
declined. It had a very solid and thick top with a long (20.5 inch) hole
- as for a machine sitting in its carry case. Now I know Singer made
such a machine, but they were all wood. This one had metal hardware and
metal legs which looked to 'new'. Any idea what it was?  No part
numbers, etc. Heavy.

Millie
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 18:29:38 -0500
Subject: My $15 find

Hello to all,
	No, I did not get a FW for $15.  That would not require me to write via the 
internet about it...you would have heard me gasping without benefit of electronic communication!  My husband and I found a little decrepit looking Singer at a nearby antique shop which we guessed to be a model 66.  The bentwood case has a hole in it about the size of a quarter and the handle is a solid wood affair which, in my guess, would cry out not original equipment. Does anyone know if the handles were ever solid wood (no metal parts)? I thought this SM was over priced at $15.00.  But after getting depressed about not finding any bargain cheap FW's, we thought we'd buy it and work on it.  We plugged it in at the store to see if the motor worked, and it did. At home, it 
received a thorough cleaning which was pretty easy with its crinkle finish.  The puppy sews like a top: fast and smooth with a great stitch after a tweak on the bobbin case screw.  After contacting Singer with the serial number, we learned that we packed in a circa 1942 99.  Not bad for $15!  Does anyone have a suggestion about the hole in the wood case?  I'm getting used to the hole; maybe I'll just stick a little beany baby head in it.

Laura
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:02:12 +0100
Subject: Tables

Hi:

I have to contribute to the table info.  We have three sewing machine
folding card tables.  All have square metal legs, wooden sides and
woodgrain veneer tops.  Two have the FW metal holder with leather on the
parts that grab the machine.

The two featherweight tables have black metal legs with a medium woodgrain
top.

The third table has tan metal legs and sides with a light woodgrain top.
The metal support under the cutout is very plain, the machine just sits on
it.  The cutout on our table will fit either a shortbed 301/301a or a 401a
with no problem.  So was it made for a 301 or 401, I say both.  The right
end of the cutout has a jog to accomodate the electrical cords.

I find the tables very nice to sew on for height and size since sewing
machines no longer come with cabinets or tables.

I am very lucky to have purchased a black 301a from Glenn Williams with a
spinet cabinet in dark wood that is currently sitting in my diningroom.  I
use this or free motion quilting and find it works extremely well.  (the
machine and cabinet)

If your wondering why so many table?   We have been bitten by the sewing
machine bug.  Current count is eight FW, three 301's and a 401a.  I am not
sure I want to keep the 401a.  I have a 1260 Bernina for fancy sewing.
This makes a total of thirteen.  Should I buy or sell one?  Time will tell.

Viv 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 23:40:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FW siting and What is it?

Greetings from the sunny south where yesterday it was 101 in the shade and
today its 74 degrees under my favorite quilt!  Laura, a.k.a. Samson, I also
saw sm's at Dawkins in Prosperity on Saturday.....you are right, over priced
for the condition.  However, I did stop at the yard (?) sale on the highway
between Prosperity and Little Mountain and found a Necchi, made in Italy.
 Model style BU.  Can't find any other information on the machine, but there
is a Good Housekeeping Gold seal of guarantee in pristine condition.  Could
anyone shed a little light on this one?  Interestingly enough, it has two
power cords, one to the motor and the other to a light  that extends on an
arm that rotates!  Also there are what seems to be two additional thread post
on the back in addition to the two on top.   Its got a bobbin case and runs,
but needs cleaning.
    Moonglo, hope to see you at LLQ next Tuesday  night!
Anita,
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:06:39 -0700
Subject: Victoria Magazine Article

To Millie and those interested:

When I saw the article in the August 1997 issue of Victoria Magazine 
which showed marble top tables on converted treadle bases, I got a real 
smile.  I've had two such tables for almost 30 years.  BUT, the marble 
slabs I used for the table tops when I made the tables so long ago came 
from the lobby of the Singer Building on lower Broadway in New York.  
When the building was being demolished, the dh bought several pieces of 
the marble which had lined the lobby walls.  Just like the Singer 
machines, the marble from the Singer Building is still being used.

AL
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 20:44:56 +0000
Subject: Wrong Phone Number

Re: I would like a copy of Nancy's book that I 
read about

Linda,
I recently purchased Nancy's newest book at A Stitch Back in Time - 1-800-352-1174.

Alix
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 07:15:50 -0700
Subject: FW needle plate

Has anyone seen the ad for the new fw needle plate in the
Quilter's Newsletter Magazine? Claims to be low luster with
seam guide. Page 21 if anyone is interested. I also have a 
question about replacing the balance wheel on a treadle.
I can get it back on the machine, but I can't figure out how 
to do it so it disengages to wind the bobbin. What's the 
trick that I am missing?  I still am looking for one of those
combination tables if anyone sees one. TIA, Taria 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Bit Me on the Nose Find
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 97 00:20:00 -0400

Hi Feathers ...

I haven't posted here yet, but have been a member of this list since I 
stumbled across my FW last April.  

I have yet again tripped over a machine .. this is a rather unusual find 
though ... I'll give you the long version - it'll make sense that way 

I've been looking for a larger house to rent for the past few months ... 
but with one thing after another - my on getting sick and me getting 
sick, I wasn't able to find a place until last Sunday ... I move on the 
9th - esh.  The previous tenants had left a few things behind and when my 
future landlord mentioned a sewing machine, I piped in "I'll take it!"  
Sight unseen - the machine at least.  All I could see is that it was in a 
cabinet and it was a smaller cabinet than what is for 'modern' machines - 
it was buried in the garage behind a dresser and a table.  I finally saw 
it today.  

The cabinet looks like cherry wood - reddish in colour.  The top is in 
rough shape, it was used for plants I am guessing ... then he opened the 
top ... I was hoping that since the cabinet was so small that it would be 
an older machine.  My prayers were answered!!!  I see a black machine 
with the words Singer on the back.  He pulls the macine out of it's niche 
and it looks to be roughly 50 years old .. I thought it was a FW at 
first, but they wasn't a fold down bed.  My next thoughts were that it 
was a 201, 301, or 401!!!  I didn't get a chance to get the serial 
number, but will do that on Friday .. When I call Singer to find out the 
'birth' date, hopefully I can get what model it is too.  

My new machine is really dusty - has the original cord and foot pedal .. 
it is the foot pedal that works on a lever principle is the best I can 
say it ... attached at one end   sorry I can't be more specific .. 
I didn't get a chance to really drool over her.  It does have the same 
decals as my FW though .. 

I am looking forward to taking her out of the cabinet and really getting 
a look at her .. I am almost afraid to see if she works though maybe 
it's a 99 - hmmm, rusty in spots, dusty in others, probaby hasn't been 
oiled in years ... this is going to be a nice project for me to work on 
... I'll get to know my new machine and I'll have lots of fun cleaning 
her up!!!!  

BTW - I got a really good deal on her too!!!  Basically she comes with 
the house!!!!  LOL!!!!  That's all for now - when I know more, I'll fill 
you in ... 

Grace

Anybody who tells you that getting thin takes "about a week" is lying. -- 
Eeyore
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Singer Saga
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 97 12:19:17 -0400

Hi Feathers,

Here's an update on my 'new' Singer .. I thought that I would have you in 
on the action as I found out  

Well - I know I said Friday, but I couldn't stand it .. I went over the 
house today and took a better look at it ... I'm trying to get through to 
Singer as I type    Aha - It's ringing  

Okay, there are no numbers on the tension dial.  At first I thought the 
tension dial was missing ... there is a bobbin in it, and there is thread 
in the bobbin .. doesn't appear to have a reverse on it - at least 
there's no lever for reverse ... has a fancy scrollwork faceplate.  Pre 
WWII maybe!?!?!!?  >Just got transfered and it is ringing and ringing ... 
AHA!!!  She's checking now >snicker>  I just can't wait!!!!!!>

Looking at it again, it is possible that it will run .. not sure though 
.. I'm afraid to plug it in and find out.  Doesn't look as bad as it did 
last night .. Still dusty and rusty though.  There is nothing else with 
this machine except for the one bobbin .. no attachments, nothing ... The 
light is in the back and it is hooded

Waiting, waiting, waiting ...... Yep - still waiting ... Bday is July 18, 
1869.  >Stunned silence>  WOW!!!!  YEHAW!!!!!!!  This lady really didn't 
know what she was leaving behind ... now I really wonder if it will 
work!!!!  The lady at Singer didn't have anymore information for me, so I 
don't even know what model I have ... DRAT!!!!!  Back to Ismacs ... 66 
maybe or weren't they made then???  It it electric .... I don't even know 
where it was made .. <>

Anywho - just had to share my discovery with you ... The lady at Singer 
was stunned that this machine was just left at the house.  She also said 
that it now has a home with someone who appreciates it >AW 
---BLUSH!!!!!!!!>

TTFN - Grace bounces away!!!!!!

Grace

Anybody who tells you that getting thin takes "about a week" is lying. -- 
Eeyore
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Conatact Me
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 13:34:51 PDT

Kit from Grand Rapids please contact me about Nashville gathering. 
Thanks Nancy

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: FWF - Carrying Bag for a FW
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 14:29:13 -0700

To those looking for a replacement FW carrying bag:

I needed something quickly and couldn't wait for mail order, so I headed
for my local department store.   Our local Fred Meyer carries soft-side
coolers that are **exactly** the right size!!   There is a stiff white
plastic insert that protects the machine, just a tad bit larger than the
base, and slightly taller - tall enough that my accessories fit comfortably
in with the machine.  The coolers are the insulated kind, so the soft-side
is probably 1/2 inch thick, just cushy enough to protect the machine from
gentle bumps and bangs.  There is a front pocket on the carrier, plus black
canvas tote straps that lock together with velcro to facilitate carrying.  
I absolutely **love** it -  I paid $24.95, for a beautiful teal one.   They
also came in deep purple, saphire blue, red - - can't remember the other
colors.  Since I purchased mine, I've seen them on sale for less, but I
certainly don't regret my purchase.  
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 7/29/97
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 15:31:45 -0600

Several folks have asked questions about New Homes recently.  I have the 
number of their factory (or at least I was told this was what it was.) 
 Their number is 201-825-3200.  (It is in the Eastern Time Zone.)  When I 
called this number I was able to speak to someone who was able to talk to 
me about older treadle machines.  He went out and looked specifically for 
the bobbins that are used in my treadle.  I'm sorry, but I do not remember 
his name, but do remember he was Indian (as from the country of India) and 
seemed quite knowledgeable.

Ruth
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 09:10:49 -0700
Subject: Help for a Friend - Gimbal Precision 

A collegue of mine has purchased his first sewing machine at an estate
sale.  I'm sort of fuzzy on the details but I'm trying to help him find
out 'what he's got'...  The machine is a Gimbal Precision Sewing
machine. He says its larger than a FW but smaller than a full size
machine.  I am under the impression that it is dated from around the
50's.  It's light metallic green and in its own carrying case.  Anyone
out there have information or can point me someplace to do additional
research?

Thanks,

K Page
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 11:06:47 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/26/97

To Terri  and her split fingers,
The best thing I have found was told to me by a dermatologist (Who
re-affirmed my Mother's reccommendations).  
Try soaking those fingers in warm (I make mine as hot as I can stand it and
then let it cool) salt (a couple of teaspoons in a two pound margarine tub)
water.  It usually takes about 15 minutes to cool as you're soaking.  (I
usually do this as I'm watching TV before bed.)  I then 'slather' my hands
with a good lotion.  I use Aqua-Glycol because it works for me.   (The Dr.
suggested it, too)  I'm sure there are lots of others out there, tho.  If my
hands are in real bad shape I wear white cotton gloves to bed so the lotion
stays on.  While doing chores I use VINYL disposable gloves.  (Another Dr.
suggestion)  They cost about $10 per 100 at the surgical supply store.  Altho
my hands don't stay perfect, they are usable most of the time.  Winter
dryness is a culprit as are all the chemicals that are in the fabrics and
threads we use.
Hope this helps. 
Edith 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:53:24 -0700
Subject: Re: 24-50

I have what appears to be a 24-50 Singer chain stitcher.  It needs a few
parts, though.  I got it a long time ago, and didn't think I could ever
find parts for it.  Now, because of you all, I am hopeful.  Does anyone
sell these parts who communicates through the Featherweight Fanatics? 
Thanks so much, Lynne
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Re: FW TABLES
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 03:03:31 -0400

Hi Feathers,
After searching for quite some time, last year I found my FW table at the
Lancaster Quilt Show.  I hurried back home to Maryland, promptly gave it a
"face-lift", and put my FW in the table only to discover that one of the
leg springs is broken.  Does anyone have a clue where I can get a spring to
fix the table leg? The number inscribed on the underside of the table is
B729073. The wire spring on the folding latch/catch (?) is missing and the
latch/catch sticks as it is bent  (I guess from being forced open and
closed).  Besides missing a few tiny screws that hold the cutout hardware,
I figure the table is still a 7 or 8. I will most sincerely appreciate any
info on obtaining this part. TIA

Fran
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 97 21:06:09 UT
Subject: Nashville gathering

Can anyone give me info on exactly when and where the SM gathering is being 
held in Nashville in August.  Also, what exactly takes place there, and what 
do I have to do to attend? 
Thanks
Jeannie
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 97 00:11:39 UT
Subject: Dating White SM

If I didn't feel we are all such good friends, I wouldn't consider asking 
this, but:
Since the White dating service # does not seem to work in Canada, could I 
impose upon someone south of the border to try calling and getting a birthdate 
and model # for my "new baby"?
The phone # is 1-800-446-2333, and my machine's serial # is FR277164.
If someone would do this for me, and email me at butcherfamily@msn.com I would 
be eternally grateful!
Thanks,
Jeannie
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 18:30:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/29/97

       Hi all! I have done it again! went looking for a Large comercial
Singer , to do quilts,&heavy fabrics , found a Large Singer 31-15 on a large
Treadle base,at my reg haunt, converted to Electric, it has a large wood
table to work off of, the machine is beautiful, blk head, it has a leather
belt , I seem to have a problem ,in that as it turns the needle  down it gets
real hard to turn, it will go around , but only by hand , the belt slips at
this point , I"m not sure the bobbins assembly is correct, it has a very
large motor on the back, & the treadle foot ingages the motor, it has a
pressor foot lift for knee control, neat -O , I do need a foot for it , dose
ANYONE ! have one for sale?? Help! I love this machine already , dose anyone
know why the bobbin asembly would not turn freely? it will go freely forward
& then back , gets rough to turn all the way around?? I would love a manual
for this one?? I went back today & found a nice 99-13 gave it to my sis, 
I sure missed a nice Eldredge treadle cabinet, I looked at it a week ago ,&
didn't buy it , it's gone today , tooo bad! 
    I still think I might go get that little machine I saw  at  one of my reg
shops, it is in the most beautiful cabinet, oval shaped the top folds back to
make a larger oval table top, as the machine is lifted up. it is blk walnut,
niceeee! not sure what the machine is , my main dealer has come up with the
best, I'm leaving on Vac again, this week-end maybe I'll find something
speacial, But then I always do, HA!
         Keep on Searchin !  Sandy
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 08:57:30 -0700
Subject: re: an old 24-50 chain stitcher

I have what appears to be a 24-50 Singer chain stitcher.  It needs a few
parts, though.  I got it a long time ago, and didn't think I could ever
find parts for it.  Now, because of you all, I am hopeful.  Does anyone
sell these parts who communicates through the Featherweight Fanatics? 
Thanks so much, Lynne .  I also wish to apologize for my first
miss-directed e-mail.  Sorry!
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:00:11 -0400
Subject: Advertising

I got such a chuckle from this ad that I though I'd share.  This
appeared in a local trade newsletter.  "ANTIQUE genuine Singer sewing
mach., all mah. cab, 50 different stitches, $500."  
Anyone want me to call for them?!

Stuart 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:27:04 -0700
Subject: 160506 Singer Buttonhole Attachment

This is a question for everyone who uses the 160506 Singer Buttonhole 
Attachment. When I use this on my 15-91 the left side of the buttonhole 
is fine but the right side is all loopy. I tried it on my Featherweight 
and it worked better, but I don't want to use my Featherweight to make
buttonholes. Is there an adjustment I need to make to my 15-91 to get a
better buttonhole?

I asked this previously but have been having some computer problems, so 
if this has been answered in the digest please just email me privately. 
Thanks in advance.
 
Tanya
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:51:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/29/97

In a message dated 97-07-31 20:31:26 EDT, you write:

>> She  is in almost perfect condition except for the
 lingering musty smell. She has been airing out in the sun for the last
 week with little success. ( tried the Safeguard bar, baking soda, coffee,
 and not much luck) Any suggestions??  >>

I just got Nancy Johnson-Srebro's newest edition called, "Featherweight 221,
The Perfect Portable"  In the section addressing the musty smelling case
problem, she recommends using "Bounce" fabric softner sheets.  I tried this
in my case, and it worked!!  She also had first used disinfectant, sunlight,
and then finally decided to try several sheets of Bounce.  Bingo!!  To keep
it smelling fresh, place 2 or 3 sheets in the bottom of your case, and
replace periodically.

Janice
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 7/29/97
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 17:51:13 -080

To answer the question about the International Quilt Festival in Houston: 
 My advice would be to find a accomodations close to the George Brown 
Convention center so you can easily walk back and forth and book your 
reservations early.  The Four Seasons and the Hyatt are relatively 
close--the Four Seasons is closer (about a block away).  You don't want to 
be walking the streets of Houston at night but one well lit block is OK. 
 The Hyatt is about 5 blocks.  Schedule your classes light, and on the day 
that Festival opens don't schedule any classes because you will want to 
look at what's new and cute in terms of tools and fabrics and patterns. 
 It's amazing how exhausting shopping can be!
			Mary Ann 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 22:33:22 -0400
Subject: Another new machine

Hi Feathers
Have been enjoying the recent postings (except for the very long ones as I
can't access them) about everyone's new acquisitions.  Now I have another
"new" machine too.  Went to see my favorite retired Singer repairman and bought a 99 model in a cabinet.  Haven't had time to give it much more than a cursory examination but she looks fine.  The most exciting part of the trip was Sam asked me if was into "the net".  I told him only with regards to sewing machines and quilting.  He said a lady "from the net" (it made me chuckle, like he was referring to a lady from Spain!) was in to see him and she was a sewing machine collector.  She wanted a FW he has that is not at present in working order and a tan FW he has...neither of which he is ready to part with because I have already asked about the tan FW and been turned down >BG>.  Anyway, he thought her name was Kristin.  I was just wondering if it could have been Krisi as he also mentioned something about a college  Could it really be that I missed meeting Krisi by just one day?

To the lady who asked about sore quilting fingers - my best remedy is doing
a sink full of dirty dishes in nice hot soapy water and then afterward applying a dab of Bag Balm (or A&D ointment).
Penny 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Hi Everyone, 

               ***** More on the Sincere Books *******


I'm sad to report that it looks like Bobbie is again trying to rope people into throwing away their money on the non existant Sincere books.  Please, if you have sent money to this woman, check out Chris's post from the digest on the 30th and write to address he has given.  Then go to Peter's web site and write to the address given for Amazon books.  It's about time we put a stop to this scam!!  (And hopeful recover some of the money due to many of the FW Fanatic members) 

And, if Amazon really does have some of these books, a trip to small claims court could help those due the books to get them!!!!   Is there anyone out there who has access to book wholesale databases ? - Please e-mail me!!!

Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 21:17:02 +1000 (EST)

Hi

This is Peter Not Brenda.

There has been significant activity concerning these books. They are being
offered for sale by http://www.amazon.com/ with B Kopf as publisher.

All interested parties should go to http://www.proserve.com.au/books/ for a
full update.

Peter
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 00:24:36 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: SM sightings

I paid a visit to the Weigh Back When antique shop in King of Prussia, PA
(251 S. Henderson Rd ph 610-992-1692) a suburb of Philadelphia looking for
needle cases for my Boye case and saw two tsms, a Betsy Ross for $145, and a
KayBee Sewmaster for $65 ( I think I have the name right).  There was also a
66 treadle for $135 and a two drawer Clarks ONT spool cabinet for $235.  I
bought some Singer attachments, the front clamping type, and I wonder if
someone might have a picture of these.  Some of the attachments had been
disassembled and I would like to be able to put them back together,
particularly the ones that have a flat piece shaped like a C that is about 1
1/2 inches long.

Selma 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 03:36:18 -0500
Subject: 222k

Anyone going to the San Diego Quilt Show that wants to see, fondle, drool,
or anything not obscene to a real live 222k may want to be sure to stop at
the booth with a vendor named Miscellany.  The people manning the booth are
Cacilie and Abe Daily from Houston, Texas.  Cacilie is pronounced something
like Ces-sel-lee.  Do not ask me how one gets that out of that spelling but
you all know those wild and wooly Texans.  If you stop be sure to say the
magic statement "Puck sent me."  That will get you a big Texas
hoooooowdeeee if you're lucky.  The Daily's are very friends and don't know
I'm doing this so it should be fun to get their goat or rather since they
are NATIVE Houstonians, their longhorn steer or some such.  Hope all the
visitors have a good time at the San Diego Show.  It's a good one.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 05:23:53 -0400
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/30/97

Hi everyone,
I enjoy these newsletters so much.  I found out
my Centennial fw's bday is 3-31-50.  I was surprised as I had expected
it to be in 1951.
I am having alot of fun sewing on my fw.  I've had it  for several weeks
now.  Currently working on a 9 patch.
I've been looking in the thrift shops for other fws etc but to no avail.
My daughter would like one
now that she has seen mine.
Love the weekends when I can go to yardsales
and flea markets to look for dolls & sewing.
Happy Day,
Linda 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date:	Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:05:51 EDT
Subject: Singer 24-53?

I rescued a little Singer from a flea market yesterday. It has a 
small plate with the number 24-53 on the back base of it with little 
daisies, red berries and leaves all over it, no rust and turns 
easily. It's just like the illustration in Carter Bays book, fig. 2-188 
on pg. 175 which is described as a Singer Automatic c.1885. There
is also a picture in Slaten's book, pg. 133 of a Model 24-50 but it
doesn't quite match that one (the detail is not very clear in the book).  
This machine, a chain stitch, has been mounted on an ugly wooden
base with a cone thread holder next to it (Simanco #225259) and has
been electrified with a motor hidden under the wood base. It looks like it 
had been put into forced labor in a factory and it was calling out to me 
to rescue it! (Oh, boy, I've been at this too long!) At any rate, 
does anyone know what these chain stitch machines were used for 
initially? (In case anyone is interested, I paid $50 for it.)  
Mary Anne
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: FW-222
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 07:00:58 PDT

Hi all, I am really enjoying my new 222, I found that you can get into 
the smallest areas when you pull out the base to get at the free arm. 
Everyday on this list it is great to see the interest grow on our 
wonderful little machines and that many of you are having FW gatherings. 
There is one to be held in Ann Arbor  Mi next weekend Aug 9-10. The 
gathering is on the 10th meet at Anastasia's Sewing Shoppe on Maple at 
12:30-1:00. If you live close enough we would love to have you attend. 
 We are conducting FW care workshops in conjunction with the gathering 
and there is still time to sign up for them also.
 If your group or gathering would be interested in having us do a 
workshop for you let me know. Visit our site and find out what the 
workshops consist of, supply list and where we are booked so far.
www.angelfire.com/mi/featherweightcare Happy hunting this weekend all 
and hope you find that $25.00 Featherweight Nancy 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 10:06:50 -0700
Subject: featherweight motor

Does anyone know of a source for rebuilt featherweight motors?  If so,
I'd appreciate hearing.
RAY
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: FW Feet
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 97 12:46:00 PDT

Frish,

You can purchase the little rubber thingies for your FW from Glenn Williams. 
    (no affiliation, just a satisfied customer)

Nancy 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Odor eaters
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 97 17:38:46 -0500

I, too, have used Odor Eaters, the ones for extra smelly shoes, to combat 
the musty smell in my FW case.  While it didn't completely take the odor 
away, it made a very noticeable difference. The nice thing about the Odor 
Eaters is that you can just leave one in the case all the time and no 
one's the wiser.

Lisa , where I have become discouraged about getting my #3 
(but my birth year) FW unfrozen and so it's sitting in a rubbermaid 
dishpan in the corner of my kitchen.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 17:59:52 -0500
Subject: Aristocrat machine

I just bought an old machine at a garage sale for $20.00.  On the front
it is labeled 'Aristocrat' and a medallion states:

             Precision Sewing Machine Distributors
                  Deluxe Precision Built
                    Made in Japan

Can anyone tell me what I've got and where I can find more information
about it?  It's a lovely machine, glossy black with gold filigree work
on the base, in excellent condition.  It has the small flywheel type
bobbin winder, no light, and is a straight stitch only.  It has an
adjustable presser-foot pressure and a dial for lowering the feed-dogs,
labeled 'normal, silk, embr.'  It runs well, although I've got the
feeling that the motor may have been replaced.  It has a foot pedal
which may have been added on.  I'd like to know how to thread it
properly, what size needle it takes, and find a manual if at all
possible.  Please e-mail me or reply to the
list. Thanks.

Marcia 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 16:30:38 -0700
Subject: willcox and gibbs

Hi All,

There certainly is a great resource of information here.  Thanks Graham
for the information on the willcox and gibbs machines.  I didn't
realize there were so many different ones.  I have seen the treadle and
an electric one but not a handcrank.  Guess I'll have to browse some
of the web sites and see if I can come up with some pictures.  Graham,
you're site is the greatest!

The "celebrity machine"  I mentioned was what Singer said my
featherweight was when I called for it's birthdate.  I still don't
understand what they meant and when I asked the gal she couldn't give
me any more detail then to tell me it was rare.  I don't see any
difference between the one they called a "celebrity" then any of the
other ones I have.  If anyone knows what this means I'd appreciate
knowing.  

Anyone looking for a 301 in the Seattle, Wa. area?  There's a black
one at an antique store in the area.

Happy hunting!!!  Kay
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 16:46:26 -0700
Subject: featherweight soft case

Hi,

I remember reading awhile back about someone seeing a soft featherweight
case with SINGER on the front.  Well, I also came across one when out
purchasing an antique quilt.  The lady had a feather table, and machine.
On her machine was a back soft case that zipped down from the handle
on both sides.  On the front of the case was "SINGER" in gold letters.
She told me the machine came from the original owner, who had table,
case and machine.  Anyone have any other information on this case?  Was
this offered as an accessory?  

I was lucky enough to find a blind stitch attachment with manual and
zigzagger attachment #160986 with two boxes of stitch patterns -
one with 4 yellow attachments and one with 4 white attachments.  The
boxes say for a 301 but in looking in the manual they will also fit
a 221.  Anyone ever tried these on their 221?  

Kay
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 20:49:13 -0400
Subject: Spare parts needed

I need parts for a 201 with an AJ serial number.  For the balance wheel,
I need part "O" on page 27 of the service manual: a shock-absorbing
spring.  I also need the bakelite electrical connector that is attached
to the machine.  The 201 has the light switch attached to this
connector.  If anybody has a machine that he/she is parting out, or
knows of a source for 201 parts, please let me know.

Jenny         
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 20:55:35 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: "Splits on Quilter's Fingers"

I just read where someone recommended Super Glue on quilter's fingers!
 Ouch!!!  Couldn't resist telling you what I've been using for years,
recommended by my Dr. and by me (a nurse).  I've been using "New Skin" which
is a liquid bandaid with an antiseptic in it.  You paint it on with the
little brush in the bottle, let it air dry thoroughly and it dries clear, but
does not wash off for about 2 days.(Then it kind of peels off).  Just
reapply.  If you have a little "split" or cut, the antiseptic really hastens
the healing.  Since we live in a state that has very low humidity, we are
more prone to very dry skin, thus, cracks in the winter.  I love this stuff
as you can wash dishes, fabric, etc. and your "band-aid" does not come off.
 Give it a try.
Diane 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri,  1 Aug 1997 21:52:53, -0500
Subject: FW Fanatics 7/30/97

Hi Fanatics- I was wondering if any of you might know where all the 
attachments  go in the "featherweight inside the lid black corduroy 
attachment holder" accessory? Did these come with a chart or 
instructions showing which little pocket or strap held which 
attachment?
TIA, Joe
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: 3VS
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 23:34:21 -0500

  > 
> To Eula re 3VS
> I get a little confised over these numbers . I'm guess ing that what you
> have is a Model 28. Please confirm that there is a bell-shaped inspection
> cover at the head.
> 
 
Graham--yes the bell shaped cover is there.  Any clues as to why they are
telling me it is a 3VS if it is a 28?  Thanks Graham.

Eula 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Singer Saga Boo boo
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 97 14:20:21 -0400

Hi Feathers.

Well - leave it to me to take the wrong number off my machine   I 
found this little brass plate on the top of the bed this PM and now have 
the proper serial for my machine ...

Yet again you are on the phone with me while I find out from Singer what 
I have ...   Here we go .... I just gave her the serial number .. 
yeppers - waiting again ... Okay here we go ... I have a 99K, made on 
November 7, 1940.  It was made in Clydebank, Scotland.  I don't have the 
fun of solving the mystery of what and where she was made, but I do get 
to have all sorts of fun cleaning her up!!!!  

Hey, I just thought of something .. that is 2 machines that were made in 
November that I have .. my FW is November 17th 

I also asked her about the fact that I read on the net someplace last 
night that Singer will send out a free manual for the machine .. well, 
she informed me that it was $5, but then stopped in midsentence with 
giving me the address and took mine down instead!!!  YIPPEE!!!!  I am 
getting a free manual for my 99 <>!!!

Sorry about the confusion with me taking the wrong number off the machine 
.. I should know better   IT isn't the first time that I have 
done this ... 

Grace
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 10:06:56 -0700
Subject: Wheeler & Wilson

First, I'd like to say "hello", as I just joined this wonderful group.  I 
don't need aerobics after reading the entries.  It is so exciting to read 
all about how some of you have found your FW's.  I don't have a FW yet, 
but I am starting my journey today.  I would like to ask if anyone knows 
the value of a machine I have.  It's a Wheeler & Wilson, W9, No.259772; 
and has many patented dates (the first date being, "May 1st, 83")  The 
machine is in very nice shape, and came in a beautiful cabinet, complete 
with the manual, many wooden spools of thread, needles, etc.  Any ideas?
Thank you in advance, from a future FW owner, Kris 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 22:41:30 -0400
Subject: Estate Sale find!

Hi all...

I went to an Estate Sale last weekend, and I saw a solid oak cabinet 
with a treadle Singer w/ lots of fancey gold decorations.  I don't know 
any of the particulars, but if anyone is interested in it, it is located 
in Belleair, FL, and I think I can find the house again.  It was $125.00

Laurel
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 97 01:36:48 UT
Subject: RE: FW Fanatics 7/30/97

Graham,

You must not reach for the cigarettes, only the teapot, for now and then 
reduce that too.  And you can do this because you are English.

Please don't flame me for this.

Margaret 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: English Singer
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 23:49:23 -0500

Hello All,

Today I found a Singer sewing machine at an estate sale.  It was from
England.  The model is a 15K.  It didn't have the cord with it, altho I
don't think it would do me any good, since they use higher voltage (I think)
anyway, is there any way to convert this machine, or will it just have to be
a decoration.  It came in a very pretty oak box and was made in 1938.  Any
help will be appreciated.

Warmly, Gail 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: 185K
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 23:30:55 -0500

   On my
> lunch break today I visited the local Salvation Army, and tucked away in
the
> back of the back room was an old Singer, the likes of which I've never
seen.
> It is very small, but not a toy.  the entire machine is light green (even
> the cord is green) and is situated in a cabinet that I believe is not the
> original cabinet.  On the stitch length lever is a small plaque that says
> "185K,"   

Unbelievable--I got home from yard-saling today to read FWF and see the
above letter.  I bought this identical machine today at a yard sale for $5.
 Except that mine is a portable in a hard plastic (you guessed it) green
case.  The size is great for carrying around, but weighs a lot.  I bought
it because there were so many interchangeable parts with my other machines
(I've paid more for a replacement bobbin cover plate than I did for the
whole machine).  But I don't think I could part her out--she is growing on
me.  I need to replace her belt which is brittle and crumbly, but other
than that she is in great shape.  No manual--anyone have one?

Eula
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: 221 FW (1945)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:19:00 -0400

Does anyone have a 221 for sale that was made in 1945?  I'm looking for
one with a condition of 7-9.  Please e-mail me personally.  Thank you.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date:	Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:17:29 -1000
Subject: Franklin Treadle

Hello, If your Franklin treadle has Egyptian looking designs on it, it was
sold by Sears Roebuck from about 1917 into the 1920s.  They were initially
made by Domestic (if I remember right) until White bought them out at
which time White continued manufacturing them.  Earlier models have a
completely flat bed like a Singer machine, while later models have a
slightly raised area by the sliding plates.  It's a Singer Model 27 clone
with a slightly smaller bed.  Most of the parts are compatible with Singer
27/127 parts.  

>Found a Franklin treadle in Oak cabinet-still has gold decalling on it.
>no book, some feet. No idea of age. Anyone familiar with this machine
>please email me
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:38:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Singer "New Family"

I was just poking around a few antique stops today, basically wasting time,
when I came across the first ever Singer "New Family" machine I've ever seen!
 Even though the machine was not in good shape it was amazing to see anyway.
 The folding cover cabinet was ingreat shape, however,  and also quite
impressed me as I'd never seen one of them before either.  The price was
$350. which I thought rather high for a condition 3-4 machine/condition 7-8
cabinet.  I have no interest in purchasing it, but am curious what the
experts out there think about the rarity of this machine and the price.

Valerie
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 20:00:56 -0500
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/30/97

Hi,  I'm new to this net and was hoping someone could give me some
information.  I recently inherited a FW-green, like new, box like new,
et. (  my grandmother bought it before she retired, used it "2 or 3
times" , put it in a box and put it on a shelf).  I would like to know
what the machine is worth and how I go about selling the machine.  I sew
but prefer my Pfaff to the Singer because I don" quilt- I do clothing
construction and tailoring only.  Can anyone give me any hints on how to
go about this?  
Hopefully,  Joy
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:59:55 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/30/97

Hi, my sister and her family survived the extensive flooding in Modesto, CA
earlier this year. Her Featherweight spent at least several days completely
under water. She finally brought it over today and I cleaned it-there was mud
everywhere. It now runs beautifully (which amazed me, I thought it would need
to be taken to the dealer). But, there are several huge spots where the
enamel is missing and I just don't know what to do about that. Does anyone
have any suggestions? It is so terrible that it would be difficult to make it
look any worse than it does now.

Denise 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 06:45:29 -0400
Subject: found an unsual book

faeb wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> Went yard saleing and didn't see but one old treadle but got the book
> out of the drawer and the little lady let me have it for $1.00. It is
> very different from the regular manual. This one is larger(51 larger
> pages) and titled A MANUAL OF FAMILY SEWING MACHINES published by Singer
> Sewing Machine Co copyright 1914,1926,and 1929. It says specially
> prepared for students in schools and colleges. Singer educational
> publications for use in schools...no charge... for home economics
> classes and it gives a list of 10 other books one begining drawing books
> for Kindergarten classes. I didn't know they had home economics and
> kindergarten classes that far back!
> It give instructions on all the three types of bobbins....and the chain
> stitch machine. Rotary, viberating, and oscillating bobbins are detailed
> and explained and the threading of these machines as well as the
> instructions of the use of all the attachments and the oiling. It shows
> the various models of portables with knee and foot controls as well as
> several pictures of thier library tables to put these in..Also it
> illustrated some extra adjustments to these machines...It is an manual
> that could well go with any of these old machines...I will make copies
> to put with any of my old machine that do not have manuals. It is all
> that is needed.It is in reasonable good shape to.
> Happy hunting, faeb
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 09:37:51 -0700
Subject: Latches for Featherweight case

Dear Feathers,
  Help!  I have a featherweight case which is almost in excellent
condition.  Almost because both of the latches are broken.  Is there
someone out there who knows where I can obtain new latches?  There is
nothing else wrong with the case. TIA
Ellen
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 13:21:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Buttonholer Attachment

Greetings,

I have a question, and a request.  I recently acquired a Singer Buttonholer
attachment.  

My question - The box says part #121795, but the attachment itself has 121908
stamped on it.  Does the box itself have a part number, or is the attachment
not the one that's supposed to be in the box?????

My request - It did not come with a manual.  Does anyone have a manual for
sale, or could copy for me?  I will pay for the cost to copy and mail.

Thanks,

Barbara
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 18:26:10 +0000
Subject: New Web Site

Hello all,

This is the announce for my new SM pages showing some machines from my
collection. Hope you enjoy it.

The URL is:

 http://www.meiboku.demon.co.uk/sewmach/

Best wishes,

Alan 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 11:28:58 +0000
Subject: Finds and longings

I had a good find today.  I bought a tan TSM 20 with a solid 
handwheel for $37.50!  It's missing the spool pin and tension 
assembly, but that's OK.  Of course, if anyone has extras, I'd love 
to hear from you!

Now for the longing...  I stopped at a garage sale and spotted a FW 
card table.  I went up to the two ladies (in their 70's) and spotted 
yet another!  I asked if either was for sale.  She said "no" and did 
you know that I have extensions for them!!  Sure enough, under a long 
table cloth, she had a "base" table with extensions attached to 
either side!!  So in total, she had two tables with extensions and 
wouldn't sell either.  AARGH!  It turns out that both of them worked 
for Singer in the 1960's.  One owns a FW and 401.  The other owns a 
hand crank and a toy.  The toy had been left in the store by someone 
for 10 years!, so the store owner finally gave it to this woman.  I 
would have loved to talk with them more, but they were very busy with 
buyers.  I just had to satisfy myself with peeking under the tables 
and drooling. : (

Sharon
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 14:56:17 -040
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/26/97

Hi everyone,

Is there anyone out there that knows anything at all about the Singer
319W.  I just found one at a flea market and it looks like a very
complicated machine.  It is light green and solid aluminum.  It has some
strange levers with zig zag patterns on each lever at the top of the
machine and it takes thin cams that slide on the front face of the
machine and screw on. I didn't notice at the flea market but the take up
lever has broken off and I will need to get this part to try it out. 
Any help would be appreciated.

Steve
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 14:34:54 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Houston International Quilt Festival Hotels

Hotel accommodations for the Quilt Festival are filling up fast.  The
special room rate/reserved blocks at the Four Seasons, Hyatt and Doubletree
are taken, but the good news is often you can be put on a waiting list or
can call closer to the time with an opening due to cancellation.  I have
learned that there are still rooms available in the Greenway Plaza and
Medical Center areas.  
There are shuttle buses to all QF-designated hotels.  Please use common
sense and do not plan to walk back and forth at night unless you are in a
large group.  Remember, this is the fourth largest city in the US.  Taxis
are plentiful and reasonable.  You can even split the fare with other
attendees going your way.   We want you to be able to enjoy your visit and
come back next year!  Check out the Quilts, Inc. home page at www.quilts.com
for more information.  Hope to see you there!
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:45:21 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 99K Thread Take up Lever

Does anyone have a thread take-up lever for a 99K (serial no. EL 690146)?  A
retired SM repairman was going to trash his 99K because the thread take up
lever is broken.  He has serviced my FW in the past and has been so kind to
me, I offered to help him locate one as he'd really like to fix up this
machine for himself.  He has no email address so if any one can help, would
you please email me with the cost plus shipping and I will pass the info on
to him.  Thanks a bunch.
Diane 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:48:44 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Singer Pinker sighted

Saw a Singer Pinker in pretty good condition in a town 140 miles from home.
 Price was $42.50.  If anyone is interested, email me for phone no. and
details, etc.
P.S.  Also saw another one in an antique shop for $295.00!!!!!  Think the
dealer thought it was a TSM!
Diane
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 16:51:58 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: FW Tucker attachment

I have a tucker attachment (no. 36583) and don't know if it's complete or how
to use it.  Does anyone have a copy of directions on how to use this
attachment?  Also, would be interested in knowing your opinion(s) re: it's
use.  Thanks for any help.
Diane
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 14:08:44 -0700
Subject: Age of My Singer

I have a foot peddle Singer sewing machine that was my Grandmothers. 
The serial number is AA462522.  How can I find out when it was
manufactured and current value?

Thanks for your help.

Colleen
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/29/97
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 22:47:02 +0100

Ti terri re New Home

A History of the New Home company arreared a couple of months back in
ISMACS News. It will eventually be up on the web site but we restrict the
material on the site http://www.ismacs.net . To keep faith with magazine
subscribers, nothing appears on the site until six months after it has been
in the magazine.

Graham 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/30/97
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 22:47:21 +0100

To Mary re mystery machine

What you have, I think is a Guhl and Harbeck. Made for a long period from
1890 to the 1920s under a wide number of different names the most common
being Original Express. If you want to be sure send me a picture.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 7/26/97
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 22:47:44 +0100

To Terri

Thanks for the kind thoughts.

I have just bought some sets of old Singer decals but they have not arrived
yet and I do not know what model/s they are for.

I know of none for the New Home machines.


To Daniel

We have manuals for all Elnas and can provide a copy if required


To Bob

Stripping the finish is a job best done with chemicals. None of the paint
strippers will attack the alluminium. Get the most powerful you can and
still be prepared to do a little wire brushing to get under the surface and
let the chemical get to work..

Possible that the decals mentioned above include FW. I will post here.

Graham
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 17:18:06 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/1/97

I have a Singer machine in a wooden cabinet that has been stored in
an outside shed AT LEAST 20 years.  I looked at the model number
on the website and it indicated it was made 1947-1948...haven't
called Singer yet for exact date.  It is in terrible shape, rust
all over.  I'm wondering if there is any way to clean and repair
one that's in that bad shape.  I haven't tried to plug it in...
cord looks pretty rough.  Just wondering if it's worth trying
to fix up.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Subject: Buttonholer

While explaining to my next door neighbor that I was walking to a couple of
garage sales in search of a buttonholer for my Featherweight, she told me
that she had an old buttonholer I could have.

It is a Singer # 489500 or 489510 (that's what the manual says).  On the
bridge near where it attaches to the machine, the metal is stamped
"straight."

The date of the manual is 1960 and my FW is a 1956.  Any clue as to whether
it will work?

Thanks!
Jane
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 02 Aug 1997 18:35:58 -0500
Subject: singer and newhome handcranks

Hello all,

I have been absent for many months for various reasons, but it is good to
be back.

As of yet, I have not acquired the much sought after FW, however today, did
acquire 2 handcrank SM's.  Cannot even describe my happiness, as I have
been lusting after one in an antique store for a year now, but did not care
to pay the high price.  Suffice to say that these were reasonalby priced,
and don't even care what their worth is.  Just tickled pink to have them!

On monday, I will call Singer to date that one, but how do I go about
dating the NewHome?  It is a shuttle type, and that is something I know
nothing about.  

Both came with some attachments, and even though I sew quite a bit, some of
them are very unfamiliar.  Tonight will go down to play with them.
Oh, guess I should have mentioned that they are in excellent condition,
especially the Singer.  Not a scratch on the decal work.  Double :)

I suppose the moral of the story is to be patient.  Once I figure these 2
machines out, I will return to the hunt for an elusive FW. Still need
something to take to classes.  BTW , gosh those hankcranks are heavy for
their size.....    Viv
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 21:39:39 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: FW Fanatics 8/1/97

Does anyone know anything about the new plate advertized in Quilters
Newsletter for Featherweights??? It has 1/4in. markings as well as others.
 Would be interested to hear
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

World Wide Quilting Page * Featherweight Fanatics Page